View Full Version : A theory on how none works
visual999
04-13-2007, 04:11 PM
First of
all I realize the smell or vibe also has an effect, but what I've realized is that it might be more about how none
directly affects You than the women - when I wear PI or NPA pretty much all women I've had a date with, have said
I've got a angry look, and it's true, none makes you have a more serious/angry look more often, even if you're
happy and in a great mood... basically your usual "neutral slightly smiling" face becomes a "neutral slightly
angry/serious" face.
And when you have an angry/serious look and are able to more easily and effortlessly
maintain it than the woman, then there will be a breaking point and the woman will become submissive and start
trying to smile and please you, so that you would lighten up (kinda like you've passed the "a real man" test).
Think about it - during the dates you've had one party (either you or the woman) usually gives more serious looks
and the other is usually the one that talks more and tries to make the other person lighten up, with none you're
the one who's more serious/angry and the women are trying to make the situation less serious/tense.
It's kind
of same how cocky and funny comedy works - first they act offended/angry, but if you continue and bring it up a
notch, then they will break and become submissive so you wouldn't bust on them anymore. :)
Any thoughts? :)
smooth312
04-13-2007, 04:38 PM
i've noticed PI makes me feel
pissed off...so yeah, I get what you're saying, but it kind of gets me depressed too?
First of all
I realize the smell or vibe also has an effect, but what I've realized is that it might be more about how none
directly affects You than the women - when I wear PI or NPA pretty much all women I've had a date with, have said
I've got a angry look, and it's true, none makes you have a more serious/angry look more often, even if you're
happy and in a great mood... basically your usual "neutral slightly smiling" face becomes a "neutral slightly
angry/serious" face.
And when you have an angry/serious look and are able to more easily and effortlessly
maintain it than the woman, then there will be a breaking point and the woman will become submissive and start
trying to smile and please you, so that you would lighten up (kinda like you've passed the "a real man" test).
Think about it - during the dates you've had one party (either you or the woman) usually gives more serious
looks and the other is usually the one that talks more and tries to make the other person lighten up, with none
you're the one who's more serious/angry and the women are trying to make the situation less serious/tense.
It's kind of same how cocky and funny comedy works - first they act offended/angry, but if you continue and
bring it up a notch, then they will break and become submissive so you wouldn't bust on them anymore. :)
Any thoughts? :)
It certainly can help posture. Maybe your shoulder go back and you stand
taller.
At the same time, androstenone is generally something women can sense. It signals dominance. And you
know what? A dose of dominance is sexy.
It's the balance that counts. Because if women legitimately feel
like they should be scared... that's when you've ODed!
When they aren't fearful of what you may do to them
but rather know you can whoop some ass on the other guy who tries to harrass them, and that you are a person with a
backbone who they can't walk over and who has greater "social positioning" than them, that's when you have the
right amount of androstenone.
tounge
04-13-2007, 08:54 PM
It certainly can
help posture. Maybe your shoulder go back and you stand taller.
At the same time, androstenone is generally
something women can sense. It signals dominance. And you know what? A dose of dominance is sexy.
It's the
balance that counts. Because if women legitimately feel like they should be scared... that's when you've
ODed!
Agree with this.
When they aren't fearful of what you may do to them but rather know you can
whoop some ass on the other guy who tries to harrass them, and that you are a person with a backbone who they can't
walk over and who has greater "social positioning" than them, that's when you have the right amount of
androstenone.
Sorry guy, but this is where I part ways. If you are a normal built man with no
fighting skills, and you have applied a couple of dabs or drops of your favorite none product. And some tough muscle
bound or martial arts dude comes up without any artificial mones, what is the girl going to think? Better living
through chemistry does not supercede reality. I can assure you ,that you can have NPA coming out your ying-yang and
if someone is tougher,stronger, and a better fighter than you, and starts something with you, you will fill the back
of your drawers three lovely shades.
Sorry guy, but
this is where I part ways. If you are a normal built man with no fighting skills, and you have applied a couple of
dabs or drops of your favorite none product. And some tough muscle bound or martial arts dude comes up without any
artificial mones, what is the girl going to think? Better living through chemistry does not supercede reality. I can
assure you ,that you can have NPA coming out your ying-yang and if someone is tougher,stronger, and a better fighter
than you, and starts something with you, you will fill the back of your drawers three lovely
shades.
no tongue don't leave me! i thought we had something special :lol:
The kicking ass
thing wasn't meant to be taken literally. She's not really even thinking about who is kicking who's ass. She just
feels safe.
Actually , you just described me
without mones...
Thats why I love SOE , it makes others realise I do have a sense of humour. I tend to have a
serious look most of the time , even when relaxed and happy. :drunk: :cheers:
First
of all I realize the smell or vibe also has an effect, but what I've realized is that it might be more about how
none directly affects You than the women - when I wear PI or NPA pretty much all women I've had a date with, have
said I've got a angry look, and it's true, none makes you have a more serious/angry look more often, even if
you're happy and in a great mood... basically your usual "neutral slightly smiling" face becomes a "neutral
slightly angry/serious" face. :)
tounge
04-15-2007, 01:39 PM
The kicking
ass thing wasn't meant to be taken literally. She's not really even thinking about who is kicking who's ass. She
just feels safe.
Don't worry Futurist, I'm not leaving you. I will always try to guide you
on the way of pheromone reality.
A girl in todays times, wants to feel secure with a man, not safe. This is
evolution in action. Ain't no chick gonna be safe, if you are unarmed and all the other guy would need is a 9mm
Glock.
No, women want to feel secure, and that's why a career and a man's ambition are far more attractive
to quality women than anything. If you are going to try to replicate security with mones, than Rone, and to some
degree, nol, are the way to go.
People like Jimmy Kohl and a few others, realize this concept.
hunter101
04-15-2007, 02:27 PM
Is it possible to attract a
woman using mones THEN making her like you for your ambitions, personality, ect? Mones are human instinctual way to
attract a person. I guess conveying value is key after hte attraction phase of mones.
Cant wait til i get my
mones, hehe, i know ill be slightly confident than what i am now.
- J
Don't worry
Futurist, I'm not leaving you. I will always try to guide you on the way of pheromone reality.
A girl in
todays times, wants to feel secure with a man, not safe. This is evolution in action. Ain't no chick gonna be safe,
if you are unarmed and all the other guy would need is a 9mm Glock.
No, women want to feel secure, and
that's why a career and a man's ambition are far more attractive to quality women than anything. If you are going
to try to replicate security with mones, than Rone, and to some degree, nol, are the way to go.
People like
Jimmy Kohl and a few others, realize this concept.
Tongue, you bring up some great points about -nol
and -rone! But that doesn't negate what none brings to the table.
tounge
04-15-2007, 09:32 PM
Tongue, you bring
up some great points about -nol and -rone! But that doesn't negate what none brings to the table.
Totally agree with you. None can certainly bring some interesting things to the table. Mother Nature has it here for
a reason. But even for the best of users, artificial none can be wildly inconsistant.
You can get the
occasional wild hit with a none product, but also disasterous results.
Back when you use to post here more
frequently, this was one of your reaccuring themes.
tounge
04-15-2007, 09:38 PM
Is it
possible to attract a woman using mones THEN making her like you for your ambitions, personality, ect? Mones are
human instinctual way to attract a person. I guess conveying value is key after hte attraction phase of mones.
- J
I think the right pheromone signature can initially draw a women's interest to a
man. But if she is a women of QUALITY, she will need to see some substance behind that pheromonial first response.
Sigma
04-15-2007, 09:57 PM
Don't worry
Futurist, I'm not leaving you. I will always try to guide you on the way of pheromone reality.
A girl in todays
times, wants to feel secure with a man, not safe. This is evolution in action. Ain't no chick gonna be safe, if you
are unarmed and all the other guy would need is a 9mm Glock.
No, women want to feel secure, and that's why a
career and a man's ambition are far more attractive to quality women than anything. If you are going to try to
replicate security with mones, than Rone, and to some degree, nol, are the way to go.
People like Jimmy Kohl and
a few others, realize this concept.
I agree actually. Androstenone is overrated IMO.
hunter101
04-16-2007, 04:43 AM
I think
the right pheromone signature can initially draw a women's interest to a man. But if she is a women of QUALITY, she
will need to see some substance behind that pheromonial first response.
Of couse, just using mones to
attract women is just surface level. Beyond taht, conveying value has to be mutual and respectful for both parties.
Then the attraction can build and so on. Hehe, if people are just using mones for just some fun and no
relationships, how is it going for you guys? Me, i personally want to use mones to help me out and make it easier
meeting quality women. Allot of qualifying on my part, nothing of that 'fun stuff' im looking for.. Although,
there are some great reactions some members posted!
- J
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