View Full Version : None vs. Rone
stuttgart-man
02-28-2007, 08:34 AM
As far as I know,
the only difference betweeen None and Rone is, that None contains the element of agression whereas Rone does it not!
But so why so many products (for eyample AE, Chikara...) contains None AND Rone? This does not make sense to me, as
None contains (as far I know) all properties of Ron and additional the element of agression! Is there more different
between this two phero`s than only the element of agression?
Gegogi
02-28-2007, 12:11 PM
In my experience, androstenone
stinks more and is fosters open sexual expression, e.g., women really cut loose if attracted to you. For me,
straight androsterone hasn't been very sexual but helps impart a respectful and healthy alpha image. For example,
rone makes it easier to get things done at work. People cheerfully do what you ask and challenge you less. Your
mileage may vary but they ain't the same by a long shot.
stuttgart-man
02-28-2007, 04:50 PM
In my
experience, androstenone stinks more and is fosters open sexual expression, e.g., women really cut loose if
attracted to you. For me, straight androsterone hasn't been very sexual but helps impart a respectful and
healthy alpha image. For example, rone makes it easier to get things done at work. People cheerfully do what you ask
and challenge you less. Your mileage may vary but they ain't the same by a long shot.
ok, but
are these not things which contains a none/nol-mix too? has a none/nol/rone -mix more properties than a mixture with
none and nol only?
[quote=Human Pheromones]
Homosexual males have lower ratios of Androsterone to
Etiocholanone. Thus, androsterone makes the wearer appear to be more masculine and/or dominant, but without the
aggression of
androstenone (http://www.pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstenone.htm). This
pheromone (http://www.pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/pheromone.htm) also
creates an aura of safety, protection and reliability normally associated with a more peaceful alpha male.
Androsterone also provides the respect of
androstenone (http://www.pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstenone.htm)
without the possible negative connotations of the aggressive nature of
androstenone (http://www.pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstenone.htm).
.[/
quote]
Rone seems to be more peacefully than none! But if a product includes both - none and rone - does not
none (which includes the element of agression) eliminates this part of rone?
Gegogi
03-01-2007, 03:03 AM
We naturally produce many
pheromones, including A-1, rone, one and nol. I see no problem amping up what nature does in a balanced way. I
don't see a conflict of interest naturally or enhanced. Why be a one note song when you can be a symphony? Besides
both seem very different in my experience.
london-boy
03-01-2007, 05:59 PM
my guess is that they put
none and rone in products together, so th rone can give you chat more open appeal, and respect, and the none which
gives you the respect aswell but with a little bit of agression, thats why alot of younger people have reported
sexual responses cos none can be sexual aswell!
stuttgart-man
03-01-2007, 06:20 PM
My idea is, that the rone
and none in one product enables you amongst other things to adjust the degree of agression! Both none and rone are
masculine and dominant! And so if you want to get a product with a little bit agression you take much rone and only
a little bit none!
Gegogi
03-01-2007, 06:44 PM
Me thinks you give the pheromones
far too much credit. You adjust the degee of aggression and dominance, not the pheromones. I can wear massive
amounts of NPA or TE and be perceived as gentle and kind. I can also scare the crap outta people under my control
without a drop of androstenone. Most of your public persona is up to you: how you carry yourself, your words, facial
expressions, body language and, most of all, your actions. A bucket of androstenone poured on a corpse won't crease
aggression, dominance or sexuality. It can only amp up what you put into it.
WorkingMann
03-01-2007, 06:54 PM
Geg you're so right
stuttgart-man
03-03-2007, 06:38 AM
Me thinks
you give the pheromones far too much credit. You adjust the degee of aggression and dominance, not the pheromones. I
can wear massive amounts of NPA or TE and be perceived as gentle and kind. I can also scare the crap outta people
under my control without a drop of androstenone. Most of your public persona is up to you: how you carry yourself,
your words, facial expressions, body language and, most of all, your actions. A bucket of androstenone poured on a
corpse won't crease aggression, dominance or sexuality. It can only amp up what you put into it.
sorry
but this do not agree with my experiences! Since I have used pheromones the number of flirts, eye-contacts with
women and even the number of situations in which a foreign women comes to me to talk/flirt with me is at least
10times higher than former!
Ok I agree you that action, body-language and many more is important too, but ( in
my opinion) not so like pheromoes! And futhermore to aquire another body-language or rhetoric-skills is much more
difficult as to apply pheromones!
MOBLEYC57
03-03-2007, 11:13 AM
sorry but
this do not agree with my experiences! Since I have used pheromones the number of flirts, eye-contacts with women
and even the number of situations in which a foreign women comes to me to talk/flirt with me is at least 10times
higher than former!
So, are you in Stuttgart, Stuttgart?
What mones:mone application do you
use that causes the lights to turn on for foreign women?
Foreign = Americans, Italians, French, what?
Thanks! :wave:
Gegogi
03-03-2007, 12:15 PM
Stuttgart-man, pheromones are
great. The cat's meow of accessories. However, once you're in the door no amount of chemicial supplements will
make up for a lack of substance. In other words, your social status, words and actions need to jive with your
pheromone signature or you're dead meat. People aren't dumb, and they'll see right through your chemical haze
once they know you better. So develop your character and improve your station in life and you'll go far. Pheromones
will help you get started but only you can finish the race.
stuttgart-man
03-03-2007, 12:37 PM
So, are
you in Stuttgart, Stuttgart?
What mones:mone application do you use that causes the lights to turn on
for foreign women?
Foreign = Americans, Italians, French, what?
Thanks! :wave:
Hi MobleyC57,
yes I come from Stuttgart, exactly Esslingen, this is near Stuttgart in the south of Germany!
The best hits I
have had with TE and SOE in combination! If I apply it (nonexaggerated) the number of hit (flirts, one night stands
or only eye-contact) is at least 10 times higher than if I do not apply pheromones!
With "foreign" I have meant
women who do not know me! Perhaps it was the wrong word! In the school I have had everytime a 5 in English :sad: (1
is "very good", 6 is "very bad")
WorkingMann
03-03-2007, 01:02 PM
Yes but the point is still
also.. Perhaps you get the flirt but if you aren't interesting talking to and havent got anything real to give with
the way you present yourself the mones will not cary you all the rest of the way..
If she starts talking to you,
you need something more than the mones to get to the finish line because else she will just think "I THOUGHT he was
nice, but he's not" as the start was good but if you haven't got anything more than the mones for the rest of the
way it's looking bad for you.. Or at least a lot more difficult..
MOBLEYC57
03-03-2007, 06:56 PM
Hi
MobleyC57,
yes I come from Stuttgart, exactly Esslingen, this is near Stuttgart in the south of Germany!
The
best hits I have had with TE and SOE in combination! If I apply it (nonexaggerated) the number of hit (flirts, one
night stands or only eye-contact) is at least 10 times higher than if I do not apply pheromones!
With "foreign"
I have meant women who do not know me! Perhaps it was the wrong word! In the school I have had everytime a 5 in
English :sad: (1 is "very good", 6 is "very bad")
Cool! How do you apply TE:SOE gels ... TE covered by
SOE ... SOE covered by TE ... applied to different areas?
Thanks again! :run:
stuttgart-man
03-04-2007, 08:38 AM
Cool! How
do you apply TE:SOE gels ... TE covered by SOE ... SOE covered by TE ... applied to different areas?
Thanks
again! :run:
I use the gel packs! 1/6 pack of each! I use the same application-points with SOE and TE! I
apply 25% on neck, 25% on ears and 50% on the arms! I have never attend to what I apply at first!
Is there a
difference what I apply at first?:think:
MOBLEYC57
03-04-2007, 09:55 AM
Is there a
difference what I apply at first?:think:
Well, I don't really know, but mostly everyone hear apply's
TE first, and covers the TE application spots with SOE so that the TE funk does't scare anyone off.
Still ...
if the way you apply them is working for you, don't change a thing.:run:
Sigma
03-04-2007, 01:04 PM
ok, but are
these not things which contains a none/nol-mix too? has a none/nol/rone -mix more properties than a mixture with
none and nol only?
Rone seems to be more peacefully than none! But if a product includes both - none
and rone - does not none (which includes the element of agression) eliminates this part of rone?
There's
always a trade-off when we combine pheromones together. IE dienone is a good complement to none because the
increased comfort it creates can buffer against the overly aggressive nature of none. Conversely, too much
androstadienone can create an overly soft image, in which case the inclusion of androstenone can add a little
masculinity to things.
Androsterone is also known to buffer the aggression/intimidation of androstenone a bit,
but it should be noted that the effectiveness of androstenone comes from that sense of aggression that it
creates...the right amount of aggression can be a sexually enticing thing. Often times instead of trying to buffer
androstenone down so much, its better to simply use less of it.
That being said androsterone and androstenone are
two different animals to me. Androstenone projects a raw sense of masculinity....it teeters the line between
exciting and intimidating. androsterone projects a more sophisticated sense of masculinity...it lacks the firey
characteristic of androstenone that makes it work the way it does, but it makes a very mature type of
impression.
Androstenone:androsterone mixes work well together synergistically not only because of their tendancy
to buffer each others negatives (so we shouldn't limit ourselves to thinking in those terms), but because the
positive sides of both pheromones create a much better effect overall: Large presence thats in control, while
having a bit of a 'wild' side to it.
All of this reminds me of the old none:rone test mixes KZI had us test a
while back. Really good stuff.
stuttgart-man
03-04-2007, 04:59 PM
There's
always a trade-off when we combine pheromones together. IE dienone is a good complement to none because the
increased comfort it creates can buffer against the overly aggressive nature of none. Conversely, too much
androstadienone can create an overly soft image, in which case the inclusion of androstenone can add a little
masculinity to things.
Which effect has adienone alone without other pheromones? Especially what can I
expect by women? What is the behavior of women when I apply adienone?
Thanks!
Gegogi
03-04-2007, 06:41 PM
It relaxes them and helps put
them in a good mood. Great for bitch from hell and PMS problems. Once she's in a good state of mind, it's up to
you to work your magic.
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