contains PM Androstadienone?

[stuttgart-man]

Hallo,
The product-table of lovescent states that Pheromax/man contains 3mg None and 2mg Nol! But I have ordered

PM/man two years ago with a internet-shop in Germany. And there is mentioned that PM/man has a new formula with 2mg

Androstadienone, 1.8mg None and 1.2mg Nol!
Is there a american and a german version or is the product-table on

love-scent not updated?

onother question: Why so few products contains Androstadienone? is there a bad

interaction in mix to other pheros? I have read (I don`t know where) that None is influenced by other pheromones! So

perhaps Androstadienone weakens the action of other pheromones and so the manufatorers avoid to include

Androstadienone?

[Sigma]

Androstadienone is patented by

erox for use in fragranced products. It can be used in an unfragranced product, or as a part of a chemset, however.

I suspect that most products with hidden ingredients are in fact using androstadienone.

[Gegogi]

No biggie as you can easily buy

chemset androstadienone and add to taste. Works wonders around grumpy and PM women.

[WorkingMann]

http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstadienone.htm

[stuttgart-man]

Androstadienone is patented by erox for use in fragranced products. It can be used in an unfragranced

product, or as a part of a chemset, however. I suspect that most products with hidden ingredients are in fact using

androstadienone.
Do you think that TE or NPA contains Androstadienone, because they have a secret

incredient?

Do you have experience with PM? I have used it two years ago, but I have seen no reactions by other

people! Nowaday I suspect, that already one spray of PM makes an OD!
The PM-bottle contains 14ml Liquid and 2mg

Androstadienone, 1.8mg AndrostenONE and 1.2mg AndrostenOL! One spray has average an amount of about 0.1ml and so one

spray contains approx. 14mcg Androstenone!

[Sigma]

Do you think

that TE or NPA contains Androstadienone, because they have a secret incredient?

Do you have experience with PM?

I have used it two years ago, but I have seen no reactions by other people! Nowaday I suspect, that already one

spray of PM makes an OD!
The PM-bottle contains 14ml Liquid and 2mg Androstadienone, 1.8mg AndrostenONE and 1.2mg

AndrostenOL! One spray has average an amount of about 0.1ml and so one spray contains approx. 14mcg

Androstenone!

The patent on dienone is limited to fragraced products, so I'm not sure if TE and

NPA have dienone in it, but it is a possibility. There isn't anything in NPA or TE that feels like dienone, but

thats purely speculation on my part. But if a fragranced product (ie chikara, etc etc) contains dienone,

then I can see why they would keep the ingredients secret...among other reasons.

dienone is a very good

counter-point to androstenone though. Androstenone projects a strong physical prowess and aggreession, dienone

projects comfort, and an uplifted mood. They do seem to cancel each other out to some extent, but they work very

well together.

I haven't tried PM, however 14mcg of androstenone per spray is quite excessive for most people.

PI contains about 20mcg of none per drop, and most people OD off that pretty easily. Thats also a pretty heavy dose

of dienone. Given the male-depression that can come coupled with dienone, its something thats best used in lower

concentrations, with more control over the dosing. I have to use relatively small doses of it.

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[stuttgart-man]

I have searched about reports about Androstadienone on the web and one article had said that

Andostadienone can cause to depression in men! Can that be true? I ever thought that this phero enhance the positive

moods!?

[WorkingMann]

It doesn't make sense to

me.. I'm no scientist or know anythiong about it..
But when A-1 is helping on PMS it would be odd if it causes

depression in men..

[Sigma]

It doesn't

make sense to me.. I'm no scientist or know anythiong about it..
But when A-1 is helping on PMS it would be odd if

it causes depression in men..

It isn't too complicated really. Men and women are physiologically

different, and react differently to pheromones. ie men are sexually enticed by copulins, while women are not.



Funny thing is, androstadienone is the most common pheromone found on male skin. But when we wear synthetic

pheromones, we're exposing ourselves and the people around us to unnaturally high amounts. At these levels, they

may produce effects and side-effects that are very different from the natural properties of a said pheromone.

[WorkingMann]

Year okay that makes sense

but again.. Wouldn't prosume A-1 makes those results..
I would have though people in here would have told about it

if that was the case..