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bzpwhx
02-05-2007, 11:09 AM
Hello buddies!
Now

finally I have understood why with some combos (or alone) I get different feedbacks from girls.
My skin!
Yeah you

can say "oh don't be stupid! the mones get modified ....and so on"... ok it's a good point. But, and I say but, I

think there's something more involved in the process:
SKIN TEMPERATURE.
Yes, for example I have not a big

perspiration and my skin temperature is not so high (ok don't be confused by "body temperature" it's different)

someone in fact has cold hands and so on....
So my problem is with OILY MONES!!!!! Yes because oily mones need to

be heated more than alchoolic ones.
So putting oily products on my skin means that I don't get any big effect!!

Instead other products with alchol have a great feedback!

Let me know
Alex

Gegogi
02-05-2007, 12:00 PM
I mainly prefer alcohol carriers

because they: a) don't stain clothing as easily as oil; b) mix better with alcohol based colognes; and c) work

better with atomizers.

bzpwhx
02-05-2007, 12:15 PM
Yes, I agree.
I have ordered AQ

and NPA. Both alcholic (As far as I remember for NPA) and probably AQ unscented (It cames with a spray cap but I

prefer drops so im goin to change it)
Camin back to my thread my concern was about the effectiveness of oily mones.


I think that they have to be used by people that get good result from oily colognes, i mean people that using oily

conentrated colognes smell good after 30 minutes. In fact if I use those kind of colognes (perception cologne, Alter

Ego and so on) I feel good only for few minutes and people around me have to be very close to smell them.
Totally

different using alcholic cologne. I feel good (I mean I smell my own cologne) a long time after I used it and people

seem to react a lot better (asking the name of the cologne, telling me about my cologne and so on)
Alex:POKE:

WorkingMann
02-05-2007, 01:21 PM
Yes I agree here but I also

think the time of year has a lot to do with it.. If it's baking hot I don't use alcohol carrieres because then

they evaporate too fast.. But when it's cold I use them because they evaporate better than the oily mones when

it's cold..

bzpwhx
02-05-2007, 02:01 PM
That's a good point.
:box:

WorkingMann
02-05-2007, 03:26 PM
I've especially noticed it

here when it's cold.. The mones doesn't "kick in" because my skin temperature isn't as high as when it's totally

warm summer weather..

Gegogi
02-05-2007, 04:51 PM
I find both oil and alcohol

carriers equally effective, but I live in the tropics. Of course I mainly apply to clothing. The AC where I work is

so cold you can't expose any skin except for face, hands and a wee bit of neck.

Besides most premixed products

and chemsets use alcohol carriers. There are only a handfull of oil based products.

jose
02-06-2007, 04:40 AM
Now that I think of it I've had more

success with oil-based products (A7, PI, AE, SOE, A314) than with alcohol. Although I do live in Florida and we have

very hot summers here which may be a factor.

WorkingMann
02-06-2007, 09:51 AM
Now that I think

of it I've had more success with oil-based products (A7, PI, AE, SOE, A314) than with alcohol. Although I do live

in Florida and we have very hot summers here which may be a factor.

Perhaps because they don't evaporate

just after 1 hour they work better..

Sigma
02-08-2007, 05:12 PM
Alcohol = faster diffusion.

shorter life.....more immediately noticable effects that 'burn hotter' and more intensely. Longer detectable range

(diffuses a further distance outwards). Easier to OD with.

oil = slower diffusion. longer life...more subdued

effects...takes a longer period of exposure to take effect on user, and has a shorter detectable range.

The

difference in effect between PI and NPA may very well be mostly due to the difference in carrier fluid.

Many

people describe NPA is being more pronounced and in your face....PI more subdued, 'quiter' aggression.

WorkingMann
02-09-2007, 11:27 AM
Alcohol =

faster diffusion. shorter life.....more immediately noticable effects that 'burn hotter' and more intensely.

Longer detectable range (diffuses a further distance outwards). Easier to OD with.

oil = slower diffusion.

longer life...more subdued effects...takes a longer period of exposure to take effect on user, and has a shorter

detectable range.

The difference in effect between PI and NPA may very well be mostly due to the difference in

carrier fluid.

Many people describe NPA is being more pronounced and in your face....PI more subdued, 'quiter'

aggression.

Yes exactly, but I still thin that if you have a stronger oil carrier product vs. a weaker

alcohol carrier product i think they can be almost as good..
And I really think that because if the oil carrier is

stronger it will give (perhaps) as much as the alcohol carrier pr. timeframe but it will last longer also because

it's oily..

Fx. if a alcohol carrier is 1 timeframe to evaporate dosage 1 amount.
Then if an oil carrier is 1,5

time as long to evaporate because of the oil, you just need 1,5 x the same dosage as the alcohol carrier.
The

advantages would be the same results as NPA but would last longer..