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Epyon3359
02-04-2007, 08:39 PM
A hit! (Or was it ACTUALLY a hit?)

Ok, as the story goes…

Two days ago I was at work, didn’t

have any plans for the weekend yet. My friend Hiroshi shows up with this girl that I had never met. As soon as I saw

her, I thought to myself “Damn, wow she’s hot!” We exchange greetings and I go on to ask Hiroshi what he has planned

for that evening. He tells me that they were waiting for one other girl, and then were going to go out to eat, and I

could join them if I’d like. I decided to go, and that made four of us, two guys and two girls. During the evening,

Hiroshi brings up the topic about me liking cars. He further mentions that I have this steering wheel for my PS2

that I play racing games with. The Japanese girl (who is sooo hot) gets all giddy giddy, and starts going on about

how that is so cool and she wants to play. Hiroshi took the other girl to the station so that left the cute girl and

I alone. While he’s away, she’s quick to start talking to me more about cars. Long story short, the three of us end

up back at my place playing that game before she has to catch her train. When we take her to the station, I tell her

that Hiroshi has my number in case she wants to get together again. She tells me that she works tomorrow (which was

yesterday; and her job is really close to my place) which I took as a hint that she wants me to come visit her at

work.

I went to visit her at work yesterday with a hint of Chikara.

When she wasn’t busy, we talked about if she had plans that night. We decided to meet at six. I told her I’d wait

for her on the first floor by the escalator. After she got off work, I was downstairs checking my e-mail on my cell

phone and she comes running down the escalator, yells “John!” and waves her hand. Immediately she starts touching me

on the arm, and when we are leaving, it feels like she wants to wrap her arm around mine. We walk close on the way

back to my place, and the plan was that I would show her some pictures from the Tokyo Auto Salon 2007, and then we

would go visit my friend (who is in the car business). She keeps telling me that she doesn’t know about cars but

wants to learn because she thinks they are so cool after watching “Wild Speed” (The Japanese title for Fast and

Furious). We go to my friends company, talk with him and some other friends I have there for 30/45 minutes and

return back to my place. As we head back to my place, she’s going on about how it was so cool, and I am too… We end

up back at my place, and she tells me that her mother will pick her up at 8:30. We watch a little bit of TV on my

couch and she looks through my cd folder. 8:30 comes around and we walk to the spot where she will meet her mother.

She tells me that she has a bit of a cold, and I turn to her, pull her hood over her head and zip up her jacket. She

stands there and lets me. At the time, she looked like a cute little Eskimo… lol We start to talk about

relationship, and if she likes anyone and she asks if I like anyone. She further mentions that she thinks it would

be a good thing if I had a girl to take with me to different car events and to talk more about cars with. Basically,

someone with the same hobby as mine. While we were waiting, I often look over to this cute little Eskimo and think

about how pretty she is/how much fun I have with her/how great the evening was. I felt like I could have kissed her

right then and there. I felt like she would have let me kiss her; but there was something that was holding me back.

(Keep reading)

Throughout the evening, I was really surprised how

comfortable she is around me. I was also surprised at how comfortable I am around her. We will definitely go out

again…but there’s still a problem. I’m 25 and this girl is only 17. (I know, sometimes it feels like I’m robbing

from the cradle) I talked to my friend (in the car business, who we visited that night) and asked him what he

thought about it. He told me it’s very common in Japan… that younger girls often go out with older guys. But she’s

ONLY 17; not legal age yet. Not saying we’re going to do anything, but we’re really comfortable together, so it

seems like we may only get closer. There’s another problem too. I’m going to be moving to Tokyo in April, so MAYBE

the relationship will be short-lived (But Sawara is only about 2 1/2 hours from Tokyo, so we can still meet). I do

have the opportunity to stay where I’m at, but it seems like over the last couple of months, I’ve wanted to be in

Tokyo (because it’s easier to meet women and there’s a lot more to do) and it would be kind of silly to stay where

I’m at because of a girl. Now I’m starting to have second thoughts about moving. Not only about her, but because of

the friends that I have here. (But I can make friends anywhere…)

Maybe Bruce can help me out with the age thing since he’s lived in Japan and is married to a Japanese

girl. Any ideas anyone?

BTW, I don’t think it happened because of

the Chikara, but I guess that helped too… J

bubblebob
02-05-2007, 03:21 AM
That's quite definitely a hit

- although I wouldn't say that this was much of a -mone effect.
I don't know how this is handled in Japan - but

my first girlfriend was 17, too (I was 21 at this time - a late starter I am) and my next, well, almost girlfriend

after her was only 16.

Best of luck,
bb

WorkingMann
02-05-2007, 05:08 AM
I wouldn't see the age as a

problem.. Where I live girls have "their first time" when they're 13-15, and the legal age for sex is 16. We call

it pants-legal.. It's legal to get into her pants..
And often girls that's 18 are with guys that's 30 or

more..
So I wouldn't say it would be a problem.. And as you say.. It's socially acceptable to do it so go for

it..

BTW. asians (chinese and japanese) are really hot! :twisted:

Epyon3359
02-05-2007, 09:27 AM
Hey guess what! I pulled another number tonight! Ha-ha

:cheers:

Ahh, the

benefits of being in a foreign country…

Once again, I was wearing a hint of Chikara, so I don’t know if that had something to do with it;

or if it’s just because I’m a foreigner.



In other words, I guess I’ve got nothing to worry about eh?



I’m not sure what’s

going to happen with the 17 year old, but it’s always good to keep your options open right ? (Now my only problem

is staying out of the “friend zone” unless I’m sure that’s where I want to be…)

John

Marlboro_man
02-05-2007, 05:39 PM
I’m not sure what’s

going to happen with the 17 year old, but it’s always good to keep your options open right ? (Now my only problem

is staying out of the “friend zone” unless I’m sure that’s where I want to be…)

John

Keeping your options open will usually keep you out of the friends zone

because you end up unintentionally playing hard to get.

Congrats on the hit! I would say it was a hit if this is

not normal for you, otherwise congrats on being you. LOL

Lagrimas
02-09-2007, 03:46 AM
hey a few words of advice since

i'm in tokyo...

i love how you say
I’ve wanted to be in Tokyo (because

it’s easier to meet women and there’s a lot more to do)

i should let you know that we here

in tokyo are very envious of your position outside of the city!

i'll tell you why... it is true that there are

more girls in tokyo and the girls in tokyo are going to look much hotter than the ones outside of the city. however,

girls who live outside of the city tend to be more open and receptive to talking to strangers or meeting new people.

here in tokyo, the girls are very cold because it is a large city and also because many of these girls get

approached by many guys everyday. i've lived in a few cities back in the US, and i'd say tokyo is comparable with

NYC in terms of how open girls are.... which is not very open at all, lol. anyway, this is not to say it's

impossible. it just means you need really good game.

anyway, when i'm with my wings here in tokyo, we often

talk about taking trips out to the "countryside" (like where you live) because the girls there will be more

receptive and our game will seem stronger because we'll have less competition.

also, i assume you're a white

foreigner. since you're in the countryside, you still probably experience some of that "gaijin" effect. basically

people will look at you or talk to you because you're a foreigner and that makes you different. hell, there are

probably girls who would trip all over themselves to get a gaijin bf in the countryside.

on the other hand, in

tokyo, nobody will give you a second look. in fact nobody really cares about gaijin because there are waaay too many

of them here. as a white gaijin myself, i've definitely felt a shift when i'm outside of the city and when i'm

inside. when i'm inside, nobody thinks i'm special and nobody really pays attention to me. when i'm outside,

random people will say "hello!" to me and the girls will give me second looks. this is the reason why my wings and i

are planning on taking a trip out to the countryside sometime now that our game is pretty good.

think of it this

way: if you didn't have good game in your home country, don't expect things to be any different in tokyo just

because you're a foreigner. i've seen plenty of foreigners here thinking they're going to pick up easy japanese

girls just because they are foreigners and they've gotten absolutely nothing. roppongi is a sad sight every weekend

lol. 5 or 10 years ago, it was a different story. foreigners got laid easily. times seem to have changed though and

there is definitely a significant increase in foreigners these days. the point is, you'll be competing with all of

them so if your game isn't up to par already, i'd definitely work on it *before* coming to tokyo.

oh, and

enjoy your time in the countryside with the friendly girls while you still can if you do decide to move to tokyo :)

feel free to message me if you have any questions or anything.

Lagrimas
02-09-2007, 03:52 AM
Throughout the evening, I was really surprised how comfortable she is around me. I was also

surprised at how comfortable I am around her. We will definitely go out againEut there’s still a problem. I’m 25

and this girl is only 17.

yeah, forgot to talk about this...

don't worry about it at

all. in japan, it's not really considered that strange for a high school girl to go out with a guy much older than

her.

as a real example, one of the girls i'm seeing now is a high school girl and her friend (17) was going out

with a guy who was 24. in america, i think people would definitely comment about this or at the very least, it would

seem somewhat abnormal. for the girl i was seeing and her friends though, it wasn't even an issue. it was seen as

normal and not even comment worthy.

also, i've definitely met couples here in japan and seen couples on tv

where the wives are sometimes 10 years younger than the husbands. so, i wouldn't worry about the age thing.

Epyon3359
02-11-2007, 10:01 PM
Lagrimas,

Thanks for your reply; it is very helpful.



There are a few things that I want to mention.





however, girls who

live outside of the city tend to be more open and receptive to talking to strangers or meeting new

people.


Well,

I’d have to disagree with you a little on that one. You’re right that girls in the countryside don’t see foreigners

as often, but they are also more conservative, so unless you’ve got really good game, good luck. The opportunity

just isn’t there (in the countryside).

That’s not to say

that ALL of the countryside is bad, in fact, some of the countryside may actually be good. Nevertheless, where I am

now, it’s not very convenient. For example, it takes me close to three hours just to get to Shibuya! :rofl: So

that’s about 2000 yen one-way, plus the cost of drinks and an entrance fee. Therefore, spending one night in Tokyo

adds up pretty quick. Also, there aren’t any clubs where I’m living, so it’s really not anything special. The

closest club is about 40 minutes away and it closes at three, so that leaves me about two hours to do nothing and

wait for the next train at around 5:30.

About improving

my game, David DeAngelo says it himself on Page 126 of the Double your dating e-book, “Big

cities almost ALWAYS have many more beautiful women than small ones, so if you’re in a small town and you think your

location is holding you back, remember… it’s not going to get any better.



Consider moving to a bigger city. In cities like New York, L.A., and

Chicago, the opportunities to meet women are literally endless. Most suburbs of big cities aren’t half-bad

either.”

I’d like to have the have the

opportunity to put myself out there, and actually work on improving my game, and well, I think living in or around

Tokyo would make it a lot easier to practice. Even if I strike out, there are always more fish

in the sea.





as a white gaijin myself, i've definitely felt a shift when i'm

outside of the city and when i'm inside. when i'm inside, nobody thinks i'm special and nobody really pays

attention to me. when i'm outside, random people will say "hello!" to me and the girls will give me second

looks.


It’s

funny that you mention that… for me, it seems the opposite. Every time I go to Tokyo or Yokohama, it seems like I

receive more attention from the ladies. Like out here, I don’t even exist.



Instead of Tokyo, I may be moving to Saitama, but a lot closer to Tokyo

(within about 30 minutes by train). (Long story short, two companies want me. One is in Tokyo, and one is in

Saitama.) So either way I go, I think it’ll be a good move.

Thanks again for you post. I know

it’s going to be hard in Tokyo, but none-the-less, I feel like it’ll be better than where I currently

am.

WorkingMann
02-12-2007, 06:41 AM
Also, there aren’t any clubs where I’m living, so it’s

really not anything special. The closest club is about 40 minutes away and it closes at three, so that leaves me

about two hours to do nothing and wait for the next train at around 5:30.

Well that could

also be a good thing.. Because then there's more private parties and there it's easyer to pick up girls as they

aren't goin there just to get free drinks and dance..
But there's advantages in

everything..


About improving my game, David DeAngelo

says it himself on Page 126 of the Double your dating e-book, “Big cities almost ALWAYS have

many more beautiful women than small ones, so if you’re in a small town and you think your location is holding you

back, remember… it’s not going to get any better.
Consider moving to a bigger city. In cities like New York, L.A., and Chicago, the opportunities to meet women

are literally endless. Most suburbs of big cities aren’t half-bad either.”

Year

that's ALSO an advantage but again.. They're more beautifull but harder to get because there's more people to hit

on them so your game has to be much better than in the countryside.. So there's advantages and

disadvantages..



I’d like to have the have the

opportunity to put myself out there, and actually work on improving my game, and well, I think living in or around

Tokyo would make it a lot easier to practice. Even if I strike out, there are always more fish

in the sea.

You can practice anywhere.. In a big city it perhaps just would take

longer to see results (because your game has to be that much better) but than again it will most likely also work in

the countryside..
But I would work on my game and enjoy the advantages of the countryside a while and improve your

game there and when you're good there then move on to the city perhaps..

But nomatter what you choose then the best of luck to you..