View Full Version : Need help with my Guy...
Nunya
01-30-2007, 05:22 AM
So i will be
getting together with my flame at some point soon.
Now he's typically pretty passionate with me, but i had been
motivated to get some pheromones, because we are very personally guarded with each other. self-protection i guess.
so I got an androstenol/cop combination (Cleo)
I had tried it on him in a social situation this weekend. we
were both more relaxed - and he was very attentive, but i didn't feel his passionate vibe. I'm wondering whether
the change in my smell, which i can only presume he already digs, is what did it. I used 2 drops of cleo.
I've
also got some PCC on the way.
So anyways - i'm not sure how exactly to do this now. On the one hand - i really
like the androstenol, for how it makes me feel - more relaxed and at ease, and able to respond approrpiately with
someone that i have difficulty being open with. At the same time - i don't want to sacrifice his natural response
to me, which is already favorable.
So I was thinking I could do this:
Put a few drops of cleo into a scent
diffuser, so that my general atmosphere seems warm and relaxed and open, and possibly use the PCC directly on my
skin, to counter-act any "buddy" feelings the -nol causes.
but i don't know if that's f*cking with his senses
too much.
Also - i'm wondering about how much to use - how much PCC is a "serving size"? and the first time i
tried putting cleo in the diffuser, i used 3 drops and it made me sort of dreamy and very horny. But I can't say I
was any more talkative because I was alone.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
thanks!
belgareth
01-30-2007, 05:36 AM
Probably not my business (That
normally means it definately isn't) but a relationship where you do not feel comfortable being open with your
partner has a problem already. It isn't something I think the mones can address. Have you thought about where this
barrier comes from? Is the attraction physical only? Are you intellectually compatible?
Nunya
01-30-2007, 05:43 AM
oh i know exactly where the
barrier comes from. we used to be pretty comfortable with each other, and then we got physical, and thought we could
keep it strictly physical, but i think both of us trying to keep up pretenses.
Me - i'm gunshy to begin with
and i pretty much clam up, because i'm anxious and trying to not "show my cards". which is great because it makes
me seem all mysterious and stuff, but it feels uncomfortable to me. so i think we've been feeding off each other
all this time.
I probably put up my guard first, then he put his up, then i put mine up more, and now it's just
easier to kiss than think of something to say. *lol*
Oh - and don't mistake us not being open for us not being
honest - we're both pretty honest and direct with each other, when we're not totally shy.
belgareth
01-30-2007, 06:00 AM
An arms race, of sorts? You
need to get around the barriers you've created if you want to be successful. Yes, I am stating the obvious and
something you already know. Mones may help but they may make it worse too.
My wife is far younger than me and a
scholar. She can be very reserved and that created problems because I keep a lot of my thoughts and feelings hidden
as well. It took some time to break through that barrier but we really had too do it to get the relationship to
work. It turned out that to some degree I frightened her because she couldn't read me. She wouldn't let her guard
down because of that. In our case the cure was small amounts of alcohol and what I call running away from home. We
go on trips, sometimes just overnight and other times longer, that allow us to completely break away from our normal
selves. Perhaps you should try that?
Redeye
01-30-2007, 12:17 PM
Definitely go with the PCC,
although I still think wearing it with the PI/w is the best bet, but it's entirely up to you.
I have read on
here that it gets great reactions and I like it so far.
Nunya
01-30-2007, 02:06 PM
thanks redeye.
belgareth -
haha - it's a little too early yet for trips together - we're still very casual - but in a way the time we spend
together, is a break from regular life. we lead 2 very different lives to begin with, and the time we do wind up
spending together, is kind of in that hazy in-betweentime.
by mones hurting that, do you mean they may throw
us off the natural chemistry we have?
belgareth
01-30-2007, 03:47 PM
by mones
hurting that, do you mean they may throw us off the natural chemistry we have?
Mones are something of a
subliminal thing, our concious mind isn't dealing with them. I think its more impressions than anything.
So
what happens when a person's vibe or impression they leave on you changes a lot, its inconsistant? I'd become more
guarded, wouldn't you?
Nunya
01-31-2007, 04:45 AM
yeah - i would - i wouldn't
"know" them anymore.
hmm....i'm gonna hve to give this further thought.
belgareth
01-31-2007, 04:49 AM
I'm not trying to discourage
you, only help cover all the bases. Mones can be a powerful help in relationships if you are careful and think
things through.
Nunya
01-31-2007, 05:35 AM
i know - and you are giving me
some great input.
I think i'm actually going to use a little b-nol with him. and a minimal dosage of pcc - if
i can ever find out what a minimal dosage is.
just enough to enhance without overhwelming what's already
imprinted. whether the subtle approach will work or not I don't know. But lord knows we'll be intimate enough
that I don't need to blast him.
i'm still torn on whether to dose the diffuser with a-nol. I'd like it for
me - but I don't necessarilly want it on my body to throw him off.
belgareth
01-31-2007, 05:50 AM
In theory the diffuser should
work. We already know that mones will disperse in the air with just body warnth so a diffuser should work very
well.
Try small amounts. I think it would be better to not get a reaction or only get a mild one instead of
chasing the poor guy away. Or worse yet, have him too relaxed.:frustrate You may have to experiment a little but
I'm sure you can find just the right amount.
Nunya
01-31-2007, 06:03 AM
yeah - actually i think i'm going
to plug in the diffuser I actually put the a-nol in a few dys ago. I'm curious as to whether it still has the same
potency. and what it really does for my mood s I get ready to start my day.
belgareth
01-31-2007, 06:30 AM
Is it sealed when not in use?
If not it may have lost all the pheromones to evaporation.
Nunya
01-31-2007, 03:02 PM
yeah I seal it.
and i thinkt
here was some potency to it still when i used it while getting dressed this morning. i was more alert, and there
seemed to be a lot of mental chatter.
but that's something i'm owndering about andrestenol in general - it
seems like i get these euphoric highs and then a crash when exposure stops. that doesn't seem right. maybe i'm
jsut particularly sensitive to it. i don't know.
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