View Full Version : Do I have any chance with her?
leto44
01-21-2007, 10:27 AM
The
situation is very complicated.
The girl I want to seduce is very special. She is 20 or 21 I think. Her
boyfriend
is famous, he's a model and he is rich. On the other side I'm not good looking guy, I'm not rich and I'm not
famous. The question is "Do I have any chances using pheromons"?
There are some important details:
1. Whithout
pheros I don't have a chance! I'm like a road sign for her. The only word I hear from her is "Hi" and sometimes a
"Hi" with a fake smile.
2. She look like a princess really! Some famous people are jelous of her beauty, some
stars even.
3. She's engaged I think.
4. She was a vergin before him
5. Her boyfriend is somthing more
than an alpha he's like a dream for the girls in our country.
But there are some advantiges
1. That's her
first real boyfriend and I know that at first she wasn't sure that she like him (that sound strange even for
me).
2. I know she said that she never met the one, this was before she met her current boyfriend, but she was 18
at that time, I think. I'm not sure she is normal heterosexual, she may be bi or something.
3. She may even be a
lesbian.
I know this sounds crazy but it's a real challenge for me and I want to try something like special
mixes and combinations, all the weapons you've got, even if I have to smell like a woman.
This will be slow
process but it will be interesting for everybody here.
If you think I have any chance you can post your
suggestions and advices.
I'll keep you informed every time I have a contact with this girl.
Thank you all
preliminarily
Sorry 'bout my low language
skills.
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WorkingMann
01-21-2007, 11:12 AM
First of all I would say you
really have picked the one challenge that you really gotta work for huh? :lol:
But thatøs okay if you think you can
pull it off.. I wouldn't say anything because with the hearth you never can tell.. So you might have a chance or
not.. But I will say it will be really tough if you "can" get her, but I'm not sure if you can.. But if you feel
for her then just give it a try.. The worst situation is you end up where you started and that's not to bad because
then you tried at least and then you couldn't have done more..
But if we should help you I would say try telling
a little about yourself.. Is you the quite (silent) type? Then it will be easier for us to give some
advices..
But my first "advice" will be you perhaps can use the advantage of "this is her first one".. Many women
fall in love with the first one they're with sexual but after some time they feel an urge to try out something new
because they don't wanna marry someone when they haven't tried to be with somebody else.. They wanna try something
different them him..
This is not general but I know many women that have had this feelin..
So perhaps if you find
out if she has it that way you have an advantage there.. But do it silently and discretely so she woun't susspect
it..
leto44
01-21-2007, 11:42 AM
First of all I would say
you really have picked the one challenge that you really gotta work for huh? Yep, that's definetly the
hardest of all I have in mind.
I'm not scared that I'll end where I started. If it wasn't this forum I would
not even started. I really count to the pheros, without it, I don't have any chances.
About me? When I was
younger chicks liked me but then something happend and I haven't relationship with a woman for a long time. This
thing fall out from the sky for me man.
First of all the chicks don't start conversation with me, I allways start
first. I'm shy sometimes, but only sometimes. I'm not the quiet type, I talk very much, too much and I know
that's a problem. But one thing I know, I'm not the sexy kind-a-guy. The chicks rarely smiled at me and they are
not happy to see me. It's very strange, I allways think it's something about my look.
Marlboro_man
01-21-2007, 12:05 PM
I'm not
scared that I'll end where I started. If it wasn't this forum I would not even started. I really count to the
pheros, without it, I don't have any chances.
I can say this much about you. If you believe what
you wrote above then you are right you don't have any chances. I am sorry to sound mean but the moment you feel
you don't have a chance, a woman will sniff that out, and you will be proven as very prophetic.
leto44
01-21-2007, 12:37 PM
I can say
this much about you. If you believe what you wrote above then you are right you don't have any chances. I am
sorry to sound mean but the moment you feel you don't have a chance, a woman will sniff that out, and you will be
proven as very prophetic.
Don't give me wrong man. I'm cool when I talk to her, I don't shake like a
dork, but she's a hard one. It's like you to seduce Britney Spears. If the pheros don't do any good I'm doomed.
And not all because of me but because of many things (me too). This girl have a class and I'm a neighbourhood rat
compared to her. Is like a movie star to date a construction worker. I just need an
advantage.
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Marlboro_man
01-21-2007, 12:58 PM
Don't give
me wrong man. I'm cool when I talk to her, I don't shake like a dork, but she's a hard one. It's like you to
seduce Britney Spears. If the pheros don't do any good I'm doomed. And not all because of me but because of many
things (me too). This girl have a class and I'm a neighbourhood rat compared to her. Is like a movie star to date a
construction worker. I just need an advantage.
Funny you chose Briteny as she was taken by some trailer
park trash named kevin and I doubt he was using mones. I guess the point is that high status girls don't interest
me in any way, but if I were interested then I would go for it and not think that i'm inferior in any way. If you
hold her above you then you have already disqualified yourself as a potential mate in her eyes. You need to stand
out in a big way from the tons of men that must already worship her if she is all that. Most girls need to feel
proctected so that being said they need a guy that shows dominating traits so they feel like a woman.
WorkingMann
01-21-2007, 01:03 PM
Don't give me
wrong man. I'm cool when I talk to her, I don't shake like a dork, but she's a hard one. It's like you to seduce
Britney Spears. If the pheros don't do any good I'm doomed. And not all because of me but because of many things
(me too). This girl have a class and I'm a neighbourhood rat compared to her. Is like a movie star to date a
construction worker. I just need an advantage.
The mones will help you but as Marlboro says.. If you
count on the mones to be your only salvation to get a chance with this girl you're not gonna make it..
The mones
will not do the job for you.. You must do the work, the only thing the mones do is "help you".. So if you seem nice
to her or a little attraction the mones will enhance it..
But! Youøll have to make it work and not the mones..
It's like you expect the mones to do the job for ya, and as you say:
If the pheros don't do any
good I'm doomed.
So we cant help ya.. Because the mones will not do any good when you don't work for it..
Mones don't do wonders.. YOU do!
So if you want this woman you gotta work for it like any other girl, and she will
be as hard as always.. But once you get things goin in the right direction mones will help you to get there a little
faster perhaps..
This is not meant to be harsh but I'm just sayin it so I'm sure you don't misunderstand it..
leto44
01-21-2007, 01:20 PM
It's not that i won't do a
thing. The moment I see a look, a real smile or something that shows that this girl don't threat me as a nobody
i'm on man. You said pheros can "help" me, thats everything I need to do
it.
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koolking1
01-21-2007, 03:28 PM
I think there's
questions that need to be addressed.
How old are you?
Do you just want to screw her or do you want to
marry her?
I personally feel that in some instances a guy can get the gal without any game at all and just
with the mones. It's happened to me but not with a target in mind, she just came to me while I was eating in a
restaurant, I didn't say much to her and was 25 years her senior.
Redeye
01-21-2007, 05:43 PM
It's not that i
won't do a thing. The moment I see a look, a real smile or something that shows that this girl don't threat me as
a nobody i'm on man. You said pheros can "help" me, thats everything I need to do it.
Problem is that
if you have to wait for encouragement, the kind of girl you want, won't be attracted to that.
For me confidence
is THE most attractive thing. Even completely average guys that I wouldn't normally look at will get a look in if
they are confident and charismatic. It's like when you meet someone and don't fancy them, but as you get to know
them, their personality makes them more attractive. You get to the point where you can't imagine having not always
fancied them.
Don't mean to sound callous, but I think we should all aim within our reaches. From what you
have said, you sound like you think your aiming too high. She'll smell that a mile off and be put off. Even if
she doesn't think that, you thinking it will put it in her head.
Pheremones don't make a 5 a 9 imo. Not
calling you a 5 because I have no idea what you are like! Just saying that people who stay together are generally
within a point or so of each other.
Good luck if you do try and get her. If you do want to try, my best advice
as a woman, would be to act like you don't want her! If she's that hot, she'll be completely shocked and maybe
try for you. I know if I think I can get someone easily and they don't want me, it makes me want to make them want
me...if you get what I mean.
Marlboro_man
01-21-2007, 08:42 PM
Pheremones
don't make a 5 a 9 imo. Not calling you a 5 because I have no idea what you are like! Just saying that people who
stay together are generally within a point or so of each other.
I agree with everything you said
redeye, but wanted to make a point about this. I think us as men can easily grab a woman as much as 5 points higher
than ourselves with the right attitude. Kinda of what you are saying but it would be extremely rare to happen in
reverse as guys are more physically selective.
thirtyplus
01-22-2007, 12:16 AM
Hey guys,
Some good advice
already on this thread. But I have to say:
Even comparing ourselves to women on a POINTS scale is silly. Why?
because women exist on a VISUAL (physical beauty) points scale for us, 1-10 right>
But, to women, we exist on a
MENTAL points scale....with a 1 being a smelly dirty street hippie with no money and 10 being the most dominant,
masculine, powerful, funny, charismatic guy imaginable.
So you have to REALIZE....we have like 200% more ability
to change our place on "the scale" than they do.
Yes, they can get tucks and implants and use lots of makeup but
they still will only move themselves...maybe 3-4 points, objectively, in good lighting (club lighting is
different).
I have seen guys, however, go from TOTAL average frustrated wimp to pretty much BADASSES that had hot
model-quality girls eating out of their hands.
Not easy or quick, but VERY POSSIBLE...with enough self-study and
learning.
Leto, the 'mones alone won't make this girl fall to your feet and start sucking you off, you have to
change yourself for that :) Check out my blog to get started and let us know how it goes!
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WorkingMann
01-22-2007, 12:54 AM
I will have to agree with
marlboro and redeye here..
Your attitude is much (especially when people doesn't know ya yet - like clubs
etc)..
But if you play high and are like you're above her and the "natural order" isn't like this (because she's
so beautiful etc) she will be like "what's this.. This isn't "normal".. It will grab her attention and wanna make
her wanna be with you.. She will say if he doesn't want me then there must be a reason.. Can he get better than me?
Something wrong with me? And she will be searvhing for these answers and also be wanting you because you're not
like everybody else..
It's important to stand out and catch her attention..
You do this by not acting like
everybody else and not be predictably..
If you "don't want her" (you act this way) it will catch her attention and
make her interested in you..
leto44
01-22-2007, 01:15 AM
Thanks for all your posts. I'm
22 years old.
First of all I'm not in love with that girl. She's not even my friend, we just know each other,
and because it's very hard to take a word out of her I want to make things easier with the pheros. Then I'll start
a conversation with some questions and if I get answers like "Yes." and "No" I stop asking. So my point is to try
different mixing of pheros till I find the best for her (personaly)! Not to seduce her but to start a normal
conversation with her. Get it? Then I'll do my thing. Ones I made her out for a cup of coffee, she's mine.
:)
I'm not purchased any pheros yet so recomend me somthing.
I'll try the "I'm not interested" behaviour,
but I try this alot and it don't help me much. Maybe I don't do it naturaly, but I'll
try.
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belgareth
01-22-2007, 04:26 AM
Start with SoE, its difficult
to OD on and rarely repels. It's great for getting people to talk. Chikara or might be a good second
choice. You might even consider waiting until comes out in the new mix. It is potent. Try mixing later after
you've become competent with the individual products.
WorkingMann
01-22-2007, 07:02 AM
Yes I would also recommend
SOE as a first choise.. When you get results from that the AQ will probably also be commin out..
But else you can
also try WAGG witch I have had great results from or perhaps also try Liquid Trust..
But with SOE you really know
you get what you pay for..
Perhaps it would be good to buy the unscented version so when the AQ comes out you're
sure you wont mix scents if you choose the scented version (as I expect there also will come out an scented of AQ
version 2)..
is also a good alrounder I would say..
And also Chikira that has 7 mones that makes it more
subtle and alround.. Don't know if there's built in an buffer like AQ but I almost prosume it..
Redeye
01-22-2007, 07:54 AM
I'll try the
"I'm not interested" behaviour, but I try this alot and it don't help me much. Maybe I don't do it naturaly, but
I'll try.
With the not interested behaviour, you need to give a little then pull right back, give a
little, pull right back. If you just act completely uninterested you run the risk of her genuinely believing that
you're not.
Maybe one day say something nice to her, something that no-one else will say and that she hasn't
heard before, so she'll remember it. Maybe pick a part of her that wouldn't get much attention and compliment her
on it, like "you have really graceful hands."
So much more believable if it's something so specific and unusual.
Then act uninterested, as opposed to just uninterested all of the time.
leto44
01-22-2007, 08:14 AM
With the not
interested behaviour, you need to give a little then pull right back, give a little, pull right back. If you just
act completely uninterested you run the risk of her genuinely believing that you're not.
Maybe one day say
something nice to her, something that no-one else will say and that she hasn't heard before, so she'll remember
it. Maybe pick a part of her that wouldn't get much attention and compliment her on it, like "you have really
graceful hands."
So much more believable if it's something so specific and unusual.
Then act uninterested, as
opposed to just uninterested all of the time.
Yeah but I think she have to see I'm there first. I have
to take her attention, otherwise she won't even see the the uninterested behaviour. At this stage I don't even
exist so this is the first thing I have to change somehow.
I don't met her for weeks now and if she sees me
different than the last time the things may change. There's gotta be a contrast between before-me and
now-me.
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WorkingMann
01-22-2007, 08:35 AM
If you talk to her like you
got something else to do and doesn't really are that interested in spending time on her because she's not that
special.. But at the same show some interest a moment and then turn 180..
:lol:
leto44
01-22-2007, 01:38 PM
What about
PI?
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belgareth
01-22-2007, 02:30 PM
What about
PI?
PI is -none and very strong. Some people, mostly young, cannot wear it at all and many people react
negatively to it. It might be suitable to add to something else later on but as a starter I would strongly urge you
to not use it.
WorkingMann
01-22-2007, 04:02 PM
What about
PI?
When I use it I can get fair results from one drop and 2 drops I OD and people get very agrresive and
annouyed.. So wouldn't recommend this..
I've gotten better results from other ptroducts..
Holmes
01-22-2007, 06:48 PM
I agree with belgareth. Go with
SoE.
Marlboro_man
01-22-2007, 07:00 PM
With the not
interested behaviour, you need to give a little then pull right back, give a little, pull right back. If you just
act completely uninterested you run the risk of her genuinely believing that you're not.
Maybe one day say
something nice to her, something that no-one else will say and that she hasn't heard before, so she'll remember
it. Maybe pick a part of her that wouldn't get much attention and compliment her on it, like "you have really
graceful hands."
So much more believable if it's something so specific and unusual.
Then act uninterested, as
opposed to just uninterested all of the time.
Don't overlook this advice!!! Especially the first
paragragh. Redeye is a woman who clearly has touch in what women like. Remember you need to take 1 step in or you
won't accomplish anything but after you do take 2 steps back and let her follow.
As far as mone choice, I would
also recommend SOE if you want to get a conversation started.
belgareth
01-22-2007, 08:21 PM
Redeye gives very good advice.
Pay attention to her. She knows what she is talking about.
Holmes
01-22-2007, 09:44 PM
With the not
interested behaviour, you need to give a little then pull right back, give a little, pull right back. If you just
act completely uninterested you run the risk of her genuinely believing that you're not.
Maybe one day say
something nice to her, something that no-one else will say and that she hasn't heard before, so she'll remember
it. Maybe pick a part of her that wouldn't get much attention and compliment her on it, like "you have really
graceful hands."
So much more believable if it's something so specific and unusual.
Then act
uninterested, as opposed to just uninterested all of the time.
Excellent, excellent advice. 100%
true.
Obsequiousness = suicide.
leto44
01-23-2007, 11:19 AM
Ok, I'll use the SOE. Now tell
me how to combine it with other products, or maybe just SOE?
I'll purchase 2 or 3 products at least so I want
to know witch one.
Sorry about the late
response.
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SyraBrian
01-23-2007, 11:27 AM
Do something dangerous with her.
It probably should be a dangerous but safe activity like riding exciting amusement park rides together. Shared
adrenaline breeds shared bonding and possibly shared affection.
tounge
01-23-2007, 11:34 AM
Do something
dangerous with her. It probably should be a dangerous but safe activity like riding exciting amusement park rides
together. Shared adrenaline breeds shared bonding and possibly shared affection.
Hee
Hee. I think the RICH and FAMOUS model is providing her with all the adrenaline she needs.
All the advice
aside, this ballgame is over. (actually was never started) Fantasy is not reality.
leto44
01-23-2007, 12:41 PM
tounge, you're allmost right,
but there's something strange about her and that is what I want to use. It's imposible without any help, but if
the mones work on 20% of what the people here say, I may got any chance. If you read carefully you'll see that she
may be even a lesbian!
Don't get me wrong all, but I'm not crazy about her and if nothing happend - no problem.
But she's the perfect girl to try pheros on and if something work out will be absolutely
unbelievable.
SyraBrian, if I could get her to a ride she'll may be seduced already.
:)
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Holmes
01-23-2007, 12:46 PM
tounge, you're
allmost right, but there's something strange about her
Can you elaborate?
leto44
01-23-2007, 01:08 PM
Can you
elaborate?
Well the girls are so crazy about her boyfriend they're freaking out, but she don't. It's
like if Jessica Alba wants to hang out with you're shure what to do. First you thought "I'm not shure if is wright
to go" but then your parrents tell you to accept her
offer.
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Redeye
01-23-2007, 02:42 PM
Well the girls are
so crazy about her boyfriend they're freaking out, but she don't. It's like if Jessica Alba wants to hang out
with you're shure what to do. First you thought "I'm not shure if is wright to go" but then your parrents tell you
to accept her offer.
She sounds to me like she has her head screwed on. Her bf is probably with her
because she's not one of the girls desperate to be with him!
If she values herself why would she be any more
excited to be with him than he her?
WorkingMann
01-23-2007, 03:20 PM
See thatøs the point..
If
youøre beautifull you don't want one of those that will do anything to be with you..
They wan't some counterplay
as if they don't wanna be with you and is that kinda way that we talked about..
She isn't one of those that care
much about him and that's why she's SPECIAL! :thumbsup:
See..?
All the other girls is all over him but she's
not.. She catches his attention and therefor he's with her..
And the same is applying to her..
If he were one of
those that was all over her she wouldn't be with him..
And here you need to be the same way towards her..
If
you're not all over her etc. and play the game you got a chance..
And when (if she) she starts getting interest in
you the mones will help you a little here.. Every action you do right will be done a little better to her than if
you didn't wear mones..
So only enhances the things you're already doin.. And hereby I mean the things you do
right..
leto44
01-24-2007, 08:47 AM
Maybe there is a counterplay, but
she's real prety too. I know why he liked her but I don't understand why she don't get crazy for him! She may
did, I'm not 100% sure, but that's what I heard. So what other products should I buy than
SoE?
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visual999
01-24-2007, 11:19 AM
improve your style - wear
classic stuff that you can't go wrong with
improve your looks, be groomed, work out.
Most importantly -
first figure out what you want from her, do you wanna get laid, relationship, or marriage? Would you feel
comfortable standing next to a woman like that?
SyraBrian
01-24-2007, 12:35 PM
The good news is that anybody
who's ever watched a romantic comedy knows that all rich, famous and handsome men are inherently self-obsessed,
arrogant and dismissive of their girlfriend's opinions.
So to pull a typical romantic comedy move, lock
her in a closet containing a television that will, until she comes to her senses and agrees to be with you, show
nothing but that type of romantic comedy. ;)
Holmes
01-24-2007, 08:52 PM
The good news is
that anybody who's ever watched a romantic comedy knows that all rich, famous and handsome men are inherently
self-obsessed, arrogant and dismissive of their girlfriend's opinions.
So to pull a typical romantic
comedy move, lock her in a closet containing a television that will, until she comes to her senses and agrees to be
with you, show nothing but that type of romantic comedy. ;)
:lol::lol:
visual999
01-24-2007, 09:32 PM
You could also hire a hot
elite prostitute to seduce her boyfriend and make her catch him in the act. Then add some SoE and you'll be the
shoulder of choice to cry on... while those romantic comedies are running in the background :D
leto44
01-25-2007, 04:05 AM
For me, a friendly talk will be a
success. Everything above that will be a miracle. A success with her will be a total proof for the pheromones,
unsuccess - disprooves nothing.
visual999 I'm working out for some years now, but I can't afford to wear the
most expensive clotches so I'll have to do it with my not so expensive
ones.
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WorkingMann
01-25-2007, 06:50 AM
For me, a
friendly talk will be a success. Everything above that will be a miracle. A success with her will be a total proof
for the pheromones, unsuccess - disprooves nothing.
visual999 I'm working out for some years now, but I can't
afford to wear the most expensive clotches so I'll have to do it with my not so expensive ones.
You
don't need to wear things of pure gold and stuff that's SO expensive.. You can also find cheaper things (and
clothes) that's good looking and aint that expensive..
leto44
01-25-2007, 09:16 AM
You don't
need to wear things of pure gold and stuff that's SO expensive.. You can also find cheaper things (and clothes)
that's good looking and aint that expensive..
Yeah, I know that. I wear known brands and they aren't
that expensive, but not the real fancy kind of clotches. I look like a normal guy, too normal, nothing special.
Everything I've got as a plus is in my mind (my brain) not in my
outlook.
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WorkingMann
01-25-2007, 12:06 PM
Yeah, I know
that. I wear known brands and they aren't that expensive, but not the real fancy kind of clotches. I look like a
normal guy, too normal, nothing special. Everything I've got as a plus is in my mind (my brain) not in my
outlook.
You can make your outer you look attracting by working out.. And little things can do you cloth
cool.. Find belts that are cool and not everybody wears.. Necklaces.. Rings.. Good smells.. There's nothing wrong
in goin in the "cheap" clothe we can afford (because we aren't millionares) but if you make it different it's
fine..
Set your hair so it's nice.. Perhaps ask your hairdresser what would suit you.. They're very into style
and hairfashion at the moment so they can always help.. Plus if you're not always that good about finding out about
your hair a woman help is always good to get..
Make yourself interesteting..
You can do this in many ways.. Some
do it by goin to something they can talk about that's interesting.. Everything can be cool as long you see it from
the right angel! Fx. piano (everybody thinks guitar is more cool) but if you can play some music really good with a
good tone people thinks it's cool.. The same with violin etc..
Or you can learn magic tricks, hakky sack or
something..
I normally don't do all these kinda things but just ideas because she perhaps could be a hard nut to
crack.. :lol:
But find out what kinda image you want and then work it.. if you go around playin hakky sack up
against the wall and it looks really cool it could help, or you plain piano so everybody could hear how good it
sounds it would help.. Or you goin past her, making a flower go "puff" in front of her, give it to her and walk by..
The next time it will most likely have made an impression..
:wub:
Also remember that most often looks aint the
key thing for women.. As long you don't look like a bum it's your personality that's attracting..
But just
remember not to mix to many "different styles"..
But good luck.. I think you're gonna need it :lol:
leto44
01-26-2007, 02:10 AM
Definitely!
:lol:
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WorkingMann
01-26-2007, 07:50 AM
Definitely!
:lol:
If you see David DeAngelo's video's (6 of 2 hours seminar) he tells a lot about these and it
helps good poportion..
leto44
01-26-2007, 08:05 AM
I heard of him, but I never
watched his seminars. I'll watch them.
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Marlboro_man
01-26-2007, 12:07 PM
I too have studied David D
for a while. What I learned is that he has some great idea's that really work and some that are so-so but what he
says that means the most is that your words and actions need to be congruent with the rest of you. In other words
listen to his seminars, improve your inner game, and adopt your own self based on some of his principles as well as
your own.
WorkingMann
01-26-2007, 01:19 PM
Year it's not all usable
but use what suits you..
leto44
01-26-2007, 01:20 PM
Do you mean some of
these?
http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=
David+DeAngelo&ext=&op=and (http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=David+DeAngelo&ext=&op=and)
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Marlboro_man
01-26-2007, 01:29 PM
Do you mean
some of
these?
http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=
David+DeAngelo&ext=&op=and (http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=David+DeAngelo&ext=&op=and)
Yep, I don't know what that web site is but that is the correct stuff.
I would start with the DYD e-book and then do the advanced dating series.
WorkingMann
01-26-2007, 01:52 PM
Do you mean
some of
these?
http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=
David+DeAngelo&ext=&op=and (http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=David+DeAngelo&ext=&op=and)
David DeAngelo - Double Your Dating - Video Series
3.82 GB
Seeds 30
Leechers 19
And the link adress till the torrent is:
http://isohunt.com/download/6095681/david+deangelo
There's all 6 movies in..
leto44
01-26-2007, 02:38 PM
:) It's unbelievable what you
can find on the internet. :hammer: :cheers: :drunk:
:lol:
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SwingerMD
01-27-2007, 03:00 AM
Leto44,
Wonderful advice that
you're getting here, esp. Redeye's advice on pushing & pulling away from her.
I'd also like to add something
else, be sure to go after/test pheromones on other women. First it opens up your options, second it provides you
with pratice (at the very least) on dating skills, and it is one of the ways that you can push away from her.
As for phero advice, be very wary of using PI. It is very easy to OD on this heavy -none product. In fact I'd
also put Rogue Male and NPA in this category as well. I do encourage you to experiment with them though. You can
get some of the most unbelieveable rxns with them, if skillfully used (and some luck, phase of the moon, . . . etc
tossed in as well). In other words don't use this around her or anyone that you are really into until you have
some experience using them. I use them in mixes with SOE (7SOE:3None product).
-SwingerMD
leto44
01-28-2007, 09:50 AM
Yeah, I'll take the advices and
I'll use the SoE first then the mixes.
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gfunk
03-02-2007, 06:38 PM
This was a rather amusing thread
and I have one tiny suggestion: drop the whole thing! Why do you want to bother with
this when there's millions of other women out there to play with instead??? :POKE:
For one she's out of
your league and two she's already taken!
Now, if all you want is to see if pheromones work then I still suggest
you go try it with someone else. And there might also be the chance of her not being that receptive to mones in the
first place. Not all women are!
But whatever you do it's not my problem and I wish you the best of
luck in everything you might do. :D
AdrenaIine
03-02-2007, 11:16 PM
Yep, that's
definetly the hardest of all I have in mind.
I'm not scared that I'll end where I started. If it wasn't this
forum I would not even started. I really count to the pheros, without it, I don't have any chances.
About me?
When I was younger chicks liked me but then something happend and I haven't relationship with a woman for a long
time. This thing fall out from the sky for me man.
First of all the chicks don't start conversation with me, I
allways start first. I'm shy sometimes, but only sometimes. I'm not the quiet type, I talk very much, too much and
I know that's a problem. But one thing I know, I'm not the sexy kind-a-guy. The chicks rarely smiled at me and
they are not happy to see me. It's very strange, I allways think it's something about my look.
How about
you get a good diet, work out in the gym, clean up your dress and appearance, work on your social skills, become
more of a personality figure, and THEN consider pheromones as giving you a slight boost in kicking down more social
barriers between you and her.
pics of the girl ftw!. One thing
to remember is that there is never anyone out of your league. With that mentality you are bound to be that
shy, conversation initiator type that you dont want to be. Start working on your confidence because there is nothing
worse than fake confidence because it is easily portrayed by your actions, words. Before you begin to make moves on
this broad, think about what you have to offer and what you have that would make her dump her 1st bf who took her
virginity and probably alot of firsts. I would assume that he is confident because girls are flocking him so my
advice would be to try to not act like him, dress like him or be like him because if she does end up leaving him,
she would not want to be recommitted to a similar person. Be original and have other options. Girls are not
attracted to guys that are attracted to them!!, as shallow as that sounds. Let her know that you are a wanted guy!
She is used to being gawked at so dont stare too long. Instead whenever you are in the room be that person that
people want to talk to, smile and act like you want to be there. Try to be included in conversations and dont be
that guy that is in the corner looking boring because she will notice. This is probably a long post but i tell you
this first hand because i was in a position much like yours. In the end of it all, i did get the girl but when she
came around it was too late. I wasnt interested anymore because i had options"other girls", confident, outgoing and
have something to talk about all the time! Good luck :cheers:
P.S, i think she is still single and calls me
once in a while and still gorgeous.
It would also help to stay healthy.
Scrawny and weak looking is not attractive. Work out like adrenaline said, which you would produce natural
pheromones anyway. Its in womens nature to want to be safe.
Redeye
03-04-2007, 08:50 AM
Healthy is good, but don't work
out too much! Most women I know couldn't care less about a man's physique. Women tend to notice faces more than
bodies and I personally prefer slim men - just so that all you men out there who struggle to muscle up don't worry
too much.
Holmes
03-04-2007, 02:56 PM
Women tend to notice
faces more
And personality! And intelligence. At least the kinda womens I enjoy knowing.
Now,
can anyone tell me where they sell personality and intelligence? And ski masks, while we're at it?
Gegogi
03-04-2007, 03:13 PM
I'm found lots of attractive
women prefer slim men. I work out daily but strive for a toned and healthy look. My last GF was afraid I might
become too buff--a look she hates. Didn't happen as you really have to be hardcore to get all ripped
looking.
You can't buy personality and intelligence yet--flash memory upgrades in our future?--but you can
certainly work your ass off and improve and refine yourself.
leto44
03-10-2007, 07:07 AM
I'm back. I had to concentrate
to some other things and I forgot to write.
I started to analize the men with hot girlfriends and I found that
not everyone's good looking. Some of my friends are not. They don't look attractive, don't wear expensive
clotches and no money at all. But this is maybe one ot a ten, the other nine are good looking or a little below
that.
The question is what is that thing that makes this one guy so attractive to women? Pheromones?
I guy I
know is like a magnet. People's girlfriends are flirting with him in front of their boy friends. It's
unbeliavable.
Scientist have to test this guy in a laboratory.
And I'm sure it's not because of his
personality, he attract them a minute after they
met.
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SwingerMD
03-16-2007, 10:20 PM
I'm back.
I had to concentrate to some other things and I forgot to write.
I started to analize the men with hot
girlfriends and I found that not everyone's good looking. Some of my friends are not. They don't look attractive,
don't wear expensive clotches and no money at all. But this is maybe one ot a ten, the other nine are good looking
or a little below that.
The question is what is that thing that makes this one guy so attractive to women?
Pheromones?
I guy I know is like a magnet. People's girlfriends are flirting with him in front of their boy
friends. It's unbeliavable.
Scientist have to test this guy in a laboratory.
And I'm sure it's not
because of his personality, he attract them a minute after they met.
There are lot of non-verbal
and non-pheromone things that a person can do in that first minute to attract someone. Watch his body language, how
he says things, etc . . . .
-SwingerMD
leto44
03-17-2007, 06:42 AM
I watched him, he's realy shy to
the people he don't know.
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SwingerMD
03-18-2007, 01:17 AM
I watched
him, he's realy shy to the people he don't know.
A lot of people say the same about me. There are
certain parts of shyness that can be a turn-on or a turn-off. If you play it right, you'll have women stumbling
over each other to pry you open.
Anyhow I highly doubt it is just one thing that have women fighting over
him.
-SwingerMD
leto44
03-18-2007, 08:17 AM
Maybe there are alot of things,
but it's the look, the clotches or the cool behaviour. Maybe he is charismatic or something. There is one girl, she
is unbelievably beautifull, met me and startet ask me about him, I called him and when they met, they got away. They
don't even asked me if I wan't to go with them! I wasn't even there! It's strange to me even, how can this guy
be so magnetic to the women!?
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