Unscented

[Bruce]

Guys,

We just got

10 bottles of unscented with a ramped up pheromone formula. One of the ingredients has been increased

significantly. We got them for free and I would like to give them out that same way. Any ideas? Some sort of

lottery maybe? Or maybe the logical thing would be to give them to the top results posters amongst yas. We could

have everyone vote.... IE: Who in your oppinion posts the best (most thorough, reliable, interesting etc etc)

product reviews??? Folks would email their vote to me and I would post the results, with the top 10 getting a free

unscented superbeta AQ. What say ye?

Bruce

[Marlboro_man]

Instead of letting everyone

vote, why don't you and maybe the mods take a look at the posts for the last "X" (for example 1 or 3) number of

months and see who has made the best contributions to the forum.
If you do it going forward some people will

start posting just to get free stuff. If you let everyone vote you will just get a bunch of favoritism, but if you

and the mods decide then you will at least be rewarding people who have really made contributions to these forums

due to their love of the products and the community that they write in.

[koolking1]

Bruce,

pick a number between 1 and 300.

All of us will get one chance and state our number. The ten closest

guessers win. We could do it on this thread and you pick the close date/time, like 24 hours from your original

post.

[slickracer]

im going to have to say

kookling has the best idea so far.

[belgareth]

Koolking's suggestion is the

one I'd prefer, overall.

[Mtnjim]

why not just to the people who are

paying enough attention to say "I'd like to try one"?? :think:

[countesszero]

I'd like to try

one.:smite:

[DrSmellThis]

I cheerfully volunteer to try

one and provide good feedback! :)

[Bruce]

OK, maybe we have an interesting

array of subjects right here. HEC is out of the running as a "not at liberty to say" employee of sorts. Doc, you

deserve one with your 5K plus posts. Bel, goes without saying, but we better give one to Oscar too then. And we

have someone of the female persuasion. A dude, a pharaoh, an enthusiast, and a guru. At least one person of my own

age bracket. That rounds out the field pretty well.

B

[MOBLEYC57]

To be fair ....

everyone that lives in the state of North Carolina! :box:

And/or ... anyone that has dominated in the arcade

... pool ... Mobley! :goodpost:

Hi, Doc! :wave:

Or, the first 10 posters that post to this post! :lovestruc



Or, anyone who's last name starts with an "M" :run:

Like Bel, as always, I agree with Koolking's idea,

and if that doesn't go over ... those that have been providing you constant feedback, Bruce. :sick:

[Bruce]

Mobes,

Absolutely! What was I

thinking?

OK, now we have one left.

[Gegogi]

Sure I'll take a bottle of

unscented if you need a test subject. I have several classes of attractive young women I'd like to unleash

it on. If it works for a middle aged professor, you know it's da sh!t...

[Bruce]

OK G,

But unfortunately we have a

minimum post requirement of 2,305 for this experiment.

[Gegogi]

But unfortunately we have

a minimum post requirement of 2,305 for this experiment.
Bingo! 2,305 makes me the BS king!

[Bruce]

OK, you're in. Whew! I feel much

better. It would a been a shame you missin' out being so close and all.

OK, that wraps it up folks. Guys,

write me bruce(at)love(dash)scent(dot)com (can't be too careful these days) with your desired mailing addresses

(Bel and O I got yours' already) and we'll get these in the mail on Tuesday. Monday's a holiday I believe. If

we 2nd day them, you'll have 'em on Thursday.

Peace and Love,
B

[WorkingMann]

Hey why don't we get

someone to test different places in the world.. :twisted:
I'll gladly be a represent for Denmark :lol:
hehe..

[bronzie]

ohhh i just saw this thread....i

would have been a willing guinea pig !!

although i must admit, im more happy for jvkhol to try this , in fact

i would like him to use a mass spectrometer and tell us what is in it!!!

[goodguy]

Although I like the

scent of I've been told it's a little strong (one spray from a liquid trust atomizer). I'd like an

unscented version even with a new formula.

Just let me know when I can buy it after you guys are done testing

it.

[Archetypical Hybrid (HEC)]

although i must admit, im more happy for jvkhol to try this , in fact i would like him to use a mass

spectrometer and tell us what is in it!!!
It's a fully patented formula (by love-scent + manufacturer)

just for everyone's information - as well, it's the same formula as the scented , only more powerful to

compensate for the lower rate of evaporation.. The unscented version will last many times longer then scented

...

The unscented version is almost odorless, and has a *very* faint characteristic scent of

(from high -nol content). It’s mostly propylene glycol, and mixes well into alcohol-based colognes without creating

an oily mess of the cologne.

[WorkingMann]

It's a fully patented formula (by love-scent + manufacturer) just for everyone's information - as well,

it's the same formula as the scented , only more powerful to compensate for the lower rate of evaporation..

The unscented version will last many times longer then scented ...

Okay but you say it's more

powerfull.. Which ingredients is more powerfull/more of?

[Archetypical Hybrid (HEC)]

Which

ingredients is more powerfull/more of?

Trade secret..

[bronzie]

It's a fully patented formula

a patent, in a beta test? interesting...

[MOBLEYC57]

OK, you're in.

Whew! I feel much better. It would a been a shame you missin' out being so close and all.

OK, that wraps it up

folks. Guys, write me bruce(at)love(dash)scent(dot)com (can't be too careful these days) with your desired mailing

addresses (Bel and O I got yours' already) and we'll get these in the mail on Tuesday. Monday's a holiday I

believe. If we 2nd day them, you'll have 'em on Thursday.

Peace and Love,
B

So who makes the cut,

Bruce ... Carolina, King of Pool, the last names that starts with M, first 10 posters, numbers from 0-300 ... I

choose 151? :think:

Will the instructions come with the new release ... recommend 3, 4, 5, 6 drops, dabs,

sprays? :sick:

[Gegogi]

As I recall patents are public

information and readily available if you care to dig. However the patent affords the owner legal grounds for a law

suit if their "property" is used for commerical purposes.

I used to be an electronics/audio buff and would send

off to the patent office for various patented designs and recreate them at home for kicks.

[Bruce]

Mobes,

You are in. I think the

last one is Gegogi

[bronzie]

As I recall

patents are public information and readily available if you care to dig. However the patent affords the owner legal

grounds for a law suit if their "property" is used for commerical purposes.

I used to be an electronics/audio

buff and would send off to the patent office for various patented designs and recreate them at home for

kicks.

Gegogi your right, once something, an idea, etc is approved by the patents, it is available to

the public however they cannot use it without authorization from the original designer, doing so could incure a

legal suit, however there are exceptions though when a products design will not be disclosed even after a patent.

however, this is in rare and exceptional cases where the design can be replicated for a desired result the same and

similar to the original design without any legal consequences, also patents get very blurry at times, for instance,

its very difficult to patent recepies, its no wonder coca cola is fort knox with regards to thier cola recepie and

so is KFC with thier 12 unknown herbs and spices!:lol:

[Bruce]

Folks,
I still need mailing

addresses for the following folks. Email them to me. The rest I have and will ship today Fed Ex saver, so you

should have them Thursday.
slickracer
Marlboro_man
Mtnjim
countesszero
DrSmellThis

[slickracer]

hey bruce, thanks for letting

me try this but im going to have to turn it down. i guess you can give it to the next person that ask for it here.



i know its free mones and everything but i didn't really like the first AQ,(the effects on me, even tho i saw

hits with it) that it would be a waste sence i am in the process of returing the first one anyway (but been

procrastanating)

so, lets see who is the other lucky winner is .....

[bronzie]

me me !!!! you can handball it

over to my direction bruce if you like!!!

slick, since this is a different revamped boosted formula, you

might get different reactions...?

[Archetypical Hybrid (HEC)]

its

very difficult to patent recepies

That's what design patents are for..

Bruce, I say dish out the

last sample to bronzie..

[Bruce]

Workingman is the next in line. Get

those addresses in folks.

Thanks,
B

[bronzie]

Bruce, I say dish out the last sample to bronzie..

HEC, appreciate your suggestion &

thanks, but it appears there was a Cue.

[Mungojerry]

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[WorkingMann]

Shey

bruce, thanks for letting me try this but im going to have to turn it down. i guess you can give it to the next

person that ask for it here.

i know its free mones and everything but i didn't really like the first AQ,(the

effects on me, even tho i saw hits with it) that it would be a waste sence i am in the process of returing the first

one anyway (but been procrastanating)

so, lets see who is the other lucky winner is .....

I can

totally understand you by the the results you've gotten.. And btw. if the mones is stronger now the results would

perhaps be even worse.. But still a shame you don't get to try any free mones..



Workingman is the

next in line. Get those addresses in folks.

Thanks,
B

Oh thanks Bruce...! Gotta say we love this

place and the wonderfull service..! :wub:
Not that i don't want this (in any way) but since this is suppose to

help all of us here.. I will be the great dude to not be selfish and think of the whole concept..
I'm gonna have

an exam project so most of my testing will be on my school with my group (the only three girls in my class) and the

lady we're doin the project for (she's late 20/early 30 - pretty okay) and perhaps in the weekends and after

school at the mall and different places.. Plus the cantine when we get food and etc..
But I don't know if you all

think this is propper training/testing ground? :think:

I would love to test it and report on it as always but I

don't know if bronzie will have better testin grounds (area and personas) and isn't he also a "more experienced"

phero-user than me to give better results than me...?
I'm not sayin I'm bad and don't know what to look for but

if he have been longer in this "business" he perhaps would be better testing it and have better testin

grounds?

It's up to you Bruce..?
I would love to test and report but if you don't think the above is enough

reason to make me a "tester" it's okay.. I just wanna tell on advance what grounds i have for the moment.. Because

it's my final exam project so will not be doin so much of I'll just go test a little extra there as I previusly

have done.. Now it will be more if I have a purpose or time where I have to relax and be away from my exam project

but will not have from 14.00 to test because now I will spend more time on this project also.. I woun't have 7

hours a day to test but will be testing all day when I'm working on the project around these women and when I'm

elsewhere..
I just wanna be honest here, and not exploid the fact that I'm offered this great opportunity of bein

a "tester" and you'll all think (especially Bruce) it was a bad choice..! We won't do that again! :frustrate
And

here i don't wanna be selfish.. I wanna help us all in the best manner possible here.. So I wanna tell about the

possibilitys so you all know what this means if I'm chosen as a "tester"..

But if I'm chosen as a "tester" I

will test as much as possible (as I'm also interested in the results) but will not be spending the same amount of

time testin as I have used on my private testin.. And will still report in the same way.. If I don't have much time

I will make a summary and be more specific later when I have the time..
Like making a quick review/result if I'm

on a hurry and then elaborate (hope this is the correct word :lol:) on it later..

So what do you say Bruce..? Am

I still one of the "testers" or you want Bronzie or someone else to do the job?

[Archetypical Hybrid (HEC)]

NOTE: We're

trying to develop for women (different formula obviously). We have the formula itself down-pat, but need

some advice on what designer-cologne we should base the fragrance on.

I've started another thread to such

effect on the main fourm. Please post suggestions there!

[bronzie]

So

what do you say Bruce..? Am I still one of the "testers" or you want Bronzie or someone else to do the

job?

dude, you have it, you were next in line like bruce said, its only fair, I have way too many

products that I have untested anyway, your a fellow European, im also in Europe, let us know how you go with the

Danes!

[WorkingMann]

dude, you

have it, you were next in line like bruce said, its only fair, I have way too many products that I have untested

anyway, your a fellow European, im also in Europe, let us know how you go with the Danes!

Okay just if

the others perhaps would like you to do it if you could tests better because of more experience or more time, or

testin grounds..
Only think it would be fair to mention it so noone would think it wasn't fair..
But nice to hear

you sayin it Bronzie..
So I will just be testin around all the ladys all day :twisted:

[Marlboro_man]

I look forward to testing

it and have sent you my address Bruce.
Thanks again!

[WorkingMann]

I wasn't shure what email

to send my adress to so I selected the "Contact us" at the bottom..
Is this right or doesn't that work either like

message system...?

[belgareth]

I wasn't

shure what email to send my adress to so I selected the "Contact us" at the bottom..
Is this right or doesn't that

work either like message system...?
You can send it to bruce(at)love-scent.com

[WorkingMann]

Thanks Gart :lol:

[slickracer]

dont think too much about it

man, you are not given a power to see into the future. if you give it too much importance, you could be pissing on

your self and calling it a wet dream.

[WorkingMann]

dont think

too much about it man, you are not given a power to see into the future. if you give it too much importance, you

could be pissing on your self and calling it a wet dream.

I don't quite follow you here..
:LOL:

[Gegogi]

dont think too much about

it man, you are not given a power to see into the future. if you give it too much importance, you could be pissing

on your self and calling it a wet dream.

Cool, I like that one! I've know many a man whom suffers bed

wetting and thought they came! Could explain many men's fasciation with golden showers...

[WorkingMann]

Cool, I like

that one! I've know many a man whom suffers bed wetting and thought they came! Could explain many men's fasciation

with golden showers...

haha good one.. the most funny is when people do "golden showers" without knowin

it.. like bein in bed with a girl after being drunk.. And then in sleep pissin up and down over her..
:rofl:
One

of my friends have done this when he was really really wasted and drunk..
:run:

[MOBLEYC57]

Alrighty then! Got the UNSCENTED

AQ today! :cheers: :drunk: :cheers:

Now ... there were no instructions on its usage. :rant: HEC, Bruce ... I

know there's just gotta be a guesstamation as to how many drops to use. Yeah, I know it's a test, but I don't

know if 1 drop will do ya! :blink: HEC you said in another post .. the more the better. Does that still stand? This

suppose to be AQ amped up, yes?

I will not test it immediately, but I will. Yup, waiting to see what others

use.

Thanks! :run:

[Archetypical Hybrid (HEC)]

I would

recommend using about 4-5 drops.. This is not an exact science though..

[WorkingMann]

Alrighty

then! Got the UNSCENTED AQ today! :cheers: :drunk: :cheers:

Now ... there were no instructions on its usage.

:rant: HEC, Bruce ... I know there's just gotta be a guesstamation as to how many drops to use. Yeah, I know it's

a test, but I don't know if 1 drop will do ya! :blink: HEC you said in another post .. the more the better. Does

that still stand? This suppose to be AQ amped up, yes?

I will not test it immediately, but I will. Yup, waiting

to see what others use.

Thanks! :run:

I would say just try like any other product..
Start with 1 or

2 drops and then if it goes well give it 1 more drop the next day.. And keep doin this until you hit the border and

it gives negative results.. And then go back to the amount of drops that does the best job..
Just remember to post

what you applied, how / where you tested and what results you got..

Perhaps we should make an new post about

"Unscented Results"?
And let this be specifically to us "testobjects" to post our results and findings..

[MOBLEYC57]

I would say

just try like any other product..
Start with 1 or 2 drops and then if it goes well give it 1 more drop the next

day.. And keep doin this until you hit the border and it gives negative results.. And then go back to the amount of

drops that does the best job..
Just remember to post what you applied, how / where you tested and what results you

got..

Perhaps we should make an new post about "Unscented Results"?
And let this be specifically to us

"testobjects" to post our results and findings..

You're so right WM, BUT ... my thoughts are this ...

the makers of each and every product should have already tested the products and have what they think should be the

dosages near at hand. Who would know better than them? From their dosages, is where I'd like to play around, and

not waste my funds, if you get me meaning? With that being said, Signor HEC said 4-5 drops, and since I still

believe that there's something to the age thing ... 5 is where I'll start. Signor HEC also said the old AQ is best

used around the neck area, so that's where my unscented is landing. :wave: :run:

[TRense]

Hi,

when can we expect to see

this uncented version in the shop?

For I really want to try this product, but I don't like scented products

that much.

Thank you,
T.

[Marlboro_man]

Perhaps we should make an new post about "Unscented Results"?
And let this be

specifically to us "testobjects" to post our results and findings..

Fully agreed! I will start it and

name the post Unscented Auqugen test results.
Yeah I know real original.

[koolking1]

today, Thanks

Bruce!!!!

It's in the same bottle type as the scented version and, nicely, it's labeled "unscented". It

does have a scent to it though, I'd call the scent "NPA Light". I'll test it out tonight, Sue and I are hitting a

bar. If that works out, I'll do another test tomorrow evening with some swinger types that we are having over to

our place.

[WorkingMann]

You're so

right WM, BUT ... my thoughts are this ... the makers of each and every product should have already tested the

products and have what they think should be the dosages near at hand. Who would know better than them? From their

dosages, is where I'd like to play around, and not waste my funds, if you get me meaning? With that being said,

Signor HEC said 4-5 drops, and since I still believe that there's something to the age thing ... 5 is where I'll

start. Signor HEC also said the old AQ is best used around the neck area, so that's where my unscented is landing.

:wave: :run:
Yes I get your point BUT..
You gotta think about that even though they've tested it.. It

ALWAYS varyes from person to person..
So some will need 2 drops, others 5 etc etc. so they really cant give an

exact or "anything like it" measurement for how much is suggested..

But again I like products like AE that gives

an estiment for newbs that doesn't have any clue about how much to use and why..
But these numbers you can't

really use when you know more about mones because then you know these numbers aren't exact for everyone.. So "we"

(the enlightened that knows about mones) know that we just gotta test ourselfs because nothing is certain with these

things and general..

Im thinkin a little why is it best on the neck? Do you sweat more or less on the neck? I

would still prefer the pulsepoints..
:twisted:

Marlboro: Thanks.. It's easier that way also..

[WorkingMann]

Hi,

when

can we expect to see this uncented version in the shop?

For I really want to try this product, but I don't like

scented products that much.

Thank you,
T.

I was like you when I first started but I would say that

with Aqagen you get a nice smell and the ladyes like it.. Many have posted about good results about the smell with

females.. :wub:
If you've smelled HUGO Energize (the scented) smells sweet in the same way but is not

feminine and has some other tones of scent to it.. But if you like HUGO Energize I would say you would like the

scented also because both are sweet smelly in a nice way that's NOT feminine but that women also like

without them thinking "he's gay"..

But it's up to you..
Btw. if you haven't smelled HUGO Energize you can get

a free scent-sample from HUGO on their website..

[Archetypical Hybrid (HEC)]

It's

in the same bottle type as the scented version and, nicely, it's labeled "unscented". It does have a scent to it

though, I'd call the scent "NPA Light".

This scent (described by Workingman as "sweet") is due to

the large quantity (9mg/bottle) of androstenol within AQ.. High-quality androstenol has a very pleasant sweet-musky

smell to it.. One of the other "secret" pheromones used in AQ also contributes to this..

For the unscented

, this scent is very light: as I'd mentioned before: "its almost completely odorless." For it to be

completely odorless, the activity of AQ would be severly degraded..

[koolking1]

ok -

we're headed out in a bit and I'll report any results either late tonight or in the morning. I'm disagreeing

about the scent, I've got 5 drops on my jaw line and I smell NPA. I had Sue check it out and she went "ewww I

hate that stuff". So, I've covered it with SOE and now smell better. You scientist types need to realize that

not everyone can smell this stuff but some of us can smell it very very well. Here's hoping it works though!!!!

[Bruce]

Mobes,

When in doubt like that, I

always used to apply to wrists only. Then you don't have to worry too much about an unknown OD. You can easily

take a whiff and see what have there, and you can also wash it off easily.

Just dive in. :)

[Archetypical Hybrid (HEC)]

I had

Sue check it out and she went "ewww I hate that stuff".

As Bruce had mentioned, one of the ingredients

within AQ has been increased significantly.. the total phero content is now actually 24mg/bottle, but we didn't

have time to change the label yet.

While I know you all hate the secrecy, I cannot state which phero has been

increased: as a hint, it's one of the strongest-smelling pheromones and has been reported to work well when it (by

itself) has been applied in conjunction with the AQ.

It may prove to be too much. If so, then we'll drop back

down to the previous concentration.

P.S. Please don't turn this into a guessing-game re: undeclared

pheromone - I'm sure all of you get the picture.

[Marlboro_man]

Thanks, HEC!
That makes me

feel better about testing it without mixing!

[Gegogi]

While I know you all hate

the secrecy, I cannot state which phero has been increased: as a hint, it's one of the strongest-smelling

pheromones and has been reported to work well when it (by itself) has been applied in conjunction with the

AQ.

I just got my AQ. Thanks! Nicer label design than most LS products. I applied a couple drops to

forearms and could smell a slight phero scent, albeit no where as strong as NPA/TE. Smells more like unscented SOE.

I'm off to the dental hygienist. If she plants a big juicy one or offers to clean my pipes too I'll know it's

working!

I have one minor nit: stick to one measurement system (21mg phero/1.2oz). I'd recommend metric all the

way.

[Archetypical Hybrid (HEC)]

Thanks, HEC!
That makes me feel better about testing it without

mixing!


AQ was engineered to be used as a standalone product: to be honest I don't think that you need

to mix in anything else to get the effect that AQ will provide by itself - it contains 7 different pheromones at a

whopping 24mg total for a reason.

Adding anything else to this complex cocktail may be overkill &

counter-productive..

[Marlboro_man]

AQ was engineered to be used as a standalone product: to be honest I don't think that you need to mix in

anything else to get the effect that AQ will provide by itself - it contains 7 different pheromones at a whopping

24mg total for a reason.

Adding anything else to this complex cocktail may be overkill &

counter-productive..

I hope not but my only concern was testing the new product while sacrificing the

tried and true.

[belgareth]

The first test for the

unscented was pretty impressive.

Normally I wear scents and mones on my forearms but the weather here has been

pretty cold and I've been wearing a jacket the past few days. I applied two drops of to my neck and covered

it with equal parts aloeswood and musk oils, a scent I wear a lot.

Went to my business lunch and everybody

wanted to talk to me! Most the time you drift around these things and chat a few minutes here and there. Yesterday I

couldn't get rid of some people. That's unusual but may or may not have been the mones. No proof.

After

working out and showering in the late afternoon I reapplied as I usually do and applied the same scent again. My

wife, for the first time in ages commented on the scent. She kept nuzzling my neck and telling me how good it

smelled and asking me how I changed the scent, something new? She knows I wear mones but I didn't mention the AQ.

All evening she was cuddly/amorous and almost submissive. The submissive part is unusual for her, she's pretty

willful most of the time.

I'd say that as a first day wearing it the results seemed good but inconclusive. Will

know more about it later.

[WorkingMann]

:goodpost:

Wow now I

can't wait to recieve mu unscented AQ.. Yesterday I made my order as I wanted some stuff also when they ship the

unscented AQ..
Wee.. But I will have to wait a week or more but that's okay.. I'm just exited and looking forward

to getting my order and get out testing and seeing the results..
:lol:

[WorkingMann]

This scent (described by Workingman as "sweet") is due to the large quantity (9mg/bottle) of androstenol

within AQ.. High-quality androstenol has a very pleasant sweet-musky smell to it.. One of the other "secret"

pheromones used in AQ also contributes to this..

For the unscented , this scent is very light: as I'd

mentioned before: "its almost completely odorless." For it to be completely odorless, the activity of

AQ would be severly degraded..

WOW.. A mone that smells sweet.. How nice..! We're so used to mones that

stink much or less but nomatter what they stink..
So that's great news plus the ladies like the sweet scents so

that's jsut awsome..! :twisted:

[Archetypical Hybrid (HEC)]

WOW..

A mone that smells sweet.. How nice..! We're so used to mones that stink much or less but nomatter what they

stink..
So that's great news plus the ladies like the sweet scents so that's jsut awsome..! :twisted:


Most of the androstenol on the market is garbage and hence doesn't smell very attractive: we used only the

highest quality androstenol in AQ, and so that's why it smells so sweet! :thumbsup:

[gfunk]

You amped up one

pheromone, that you hints to us as being -none. I have to say that I'm personally rather dissapointed about that

news. That is if we're only talking in very small doses to begin with, then it'd be ok, but if this is now a

product with significant -none content it will be less attractive to mix since you keep up with your secrecy

business. I hope that you realize the fact that most people here want to mix and combine.

Also it would mean that

applications for business purposes you have to cut down on the dosages to avoid the -none and getting poorer results

from the other good stuff in the potion. In this case it will be better to use another product from one of your

competitors instead.

Please consider this and keep the -none at a low level, thank you!

[Gegogi]

Bel writes, "Went to my

business lunch and everybody wanted to talk to me! Most the time you drift around these things and chat a few

minutes here and there. Yesterday I couldn't get rid of some people. That's unusual but may or may not have been

the mones. No proof."

Hmm, I just had a similar experience with the 24mg update. It seems to behave

more like a heavy 'nol product than none. A hoe lotta talking. I had a difficult time getting away and heard far

more about nothing than I wanted...

I could detect none of the typical androstenone reactions nor the obvious

funk in the product. But only been out the door once so nothing conclusive.

I can't describe the scent as

"sweet." It's slightly musky (sorta like unscented SOE) with a faint note of bug spray. No matter as it covers much

easier than NPA or TE.

[Archetypical Hybrid (HEC)]

Please

consider this and keep the -none at a low level,
No, as a matter of fact, AQ contains very, very little

-none.. also the -none is buffered by the -stanone (AQ contains more -stanone than -none)..

-stanone behaves

more like -nol then anything else..

BTW: we're offering androstanol (-stanol) for alpha-test very soon.. It

seems to be much better than -stanone.

[AdrenaIine]

I wish I didn't have class

and had more time to come on here! Did I miss who got the free bottles? :(

Are there anymore of this superbeta AQ

available for purchase?? AQ is the only mone product that I get continuous results!

[belgareth]

You amped up one

pheromone, that you hints to us as being -none. I have to say that I'm personally rather dissapointed about that

news. That is if we're only talking in very small doses to begin with, then it'd be ok, but if this is now a

product with significant -none content it will be less attractive to mix since you keep up with your secrecy

business. I hope that you realize the fact that most people here want to mix and combine.

Also it would mean

that applications for business purposes you have to cut down on the dosages to avoid the -none and getting poorer

results from the other good stuff in the potion. In this case it will be better to use another product from one of

your competitors instead.

Please consider this and keep the -none at a low level, thank you!

I

don't know what it is but am certain it is not -none. If it were I would have ODed on it.

[AdrenaIine]

Hmm, I just had

a similar experience with the 24mg update. It seems to behave more like a heavy 'nol product than none. A hoe lotta

talking. I had a difficult time getting away and heard far more about nothing than I wanted...

I could detect

none of the typical androstenone reactions nor the obvious funk in the product. But only been out the door once so

nothing conclusive.

I can't describe the scent as "sweet." It's slightly musky (sorta like unscented SOE) with

a faint note of bug spray. No matter as it covers much easier than NPA or TE.You're from Waimanalo??



OT: I lived in Hawai'i Kai and went to Kaiser HS for a year.

[belgareth]

Hmm, I just had a

similar experience with the 24mg update. It seems to behave more like a heavy 'nol product than none. A hoe lotta

talking. I had a difficult time getting away and heard far more about nothing than I wanted...

I could detect

none of the typical androstenone reactions nor the obvious funk in the product. But only been out the door once so

nothing conclusive.

I can't describe the scent as "sweet." It's slightly musky (sorta like unscented SOE)

with a faint note of bug spray. No matter as it covers much easier than NPA or TE.

You are probably

right, but that is just a guess. Whatever it is, it works.

You can use -none where I can't. I'm curious to see

how it works on women for you.

[Archetypical Hybrid (HEC)]

it will

be less attractive to mix since you keep up with your secrecy business. I hope that you realize the fact that most

people here want to mix and combine.
Again, AQ was engineered to be used as a standalone product. There is

no need to mix in any other mones, as doing so will be counter-productive.

We've already taken the incentive for

you (in mixing together the mones), and so no additional mixing is required! -- Quoting Belgareth:
Whatever

it is, it works.

I know that for some connoisseurs, its difficult to resist the urge.. But again, you

really don't need anything else in the mix :thumbsup:

[AdrenaIine]

Again, AQ was engineered to be used as a standalone product. There is no need to mix in any other mones, as

doing so will be counter-productive -- Quoting Belgareth:

:thumbsup:

Personally - If I could chose

one product and use it solely for the rest of my life it's AQ. Maybe I am a rare example - but the reactions I get

with it are out of the world. I've had more women (ages 17-22) comment on my smell.. Usually "Wow you smell so

sexy" or "Mhmm something about you is driving my wild!" And that's no exaggeration! HEC - very nice work on the

product - I don't know why, but my NPA/SOE are getting dusty in my drawer :think:

Well I do know why:lol:

[Gegogi]

-stanone behaves more like

-nol then anything else..

After a few weeks of playing with androstanone, I have to agree. However it

smells more like 'none than 'nol...

AdrenaIine, I'm actually in Honolulu. I merely prefer the country hick

image of Waimanalo!

[belgareth]

Mixing and experimenting is a

big part of what the users here want to do. I can understand why they would like to know what is in it and you are

going to have to accept that some people will add other mones to it. However, you are entitled to your secret

formula too. For me, it makes no difference and knowing what is in it wouldn't make any difference either. I'll

still experiment with it just because I can.

[WorkingMann]

Mixing and

experimenting is a big part of what the users here want to do. I can understand why they would like to know what is

in it and you are going to have to accept that some people will add other mones to it. However, you are entitled to

your secret formula too. For me, it makes no difference and knowing what is in it wouldn't make any difference

either. I'll still experiment with it just because I can.

Yes but for some people our test mixes could

perhaps give even better results if we knew what was in it.. :lol:

[belgareth]

Yes but for

some people our test mixes could perhaps give even better results if we knew what was in it..

:lol:
Perhaps, perhaps not. HEC and the company he works for are entitled to keep secrets if they wish. As

consumers we are entitled to not buy the product if it means that much to know what is in it. It isn't that big a

deal to me. The product gets effects, I can extrapolate potential additions to the current effect and make pretty

good guesses what will happen.

[DrSmellThis]

Thanks, Bruce. Received mine

today.

When people don't reveal their formulas, it makes it harder for those who like to know exactly what

they are mixing to be precise about what they are trying to achieve. So it holds "progress" back from that stand

point. There is no way guessing from observed effects of a multipheromone product is as effective as planning each

chemical you use individually.

However, this negative is far outweighed in the minds of most pheromone producers

by the need to protect the earning power of their product. There might also be other miscellaneous reasons, good

ones, for keeping an ingredient secret.

They have the right to withhold this information, and we have the

right not to buy it, as Bel states.

I see both sides of it, being somebody who made a product as well as a

passionate "forum experimenter type" from way back. I've often wished there could be more disclosure.

One way

around this is to have all pheromones available individually, or maybe also to have some products where you know

what is in them but not the proportions, so you could experiement on your own.

If everyone disclosed, there

would be no problem. But that is not likely to happen any time soon.

[gfunk]

Personally - If

I could chose one product and use it solely for the rest of my life it's AQ. Maybe I am a rare example - but the

reactions I get with it are out of the world. I've had more women (ages 17-22) comment on my smell.. Usually "Wow

you smell so sexy" or "Mhmm something about you is driving my wild!" And that's no exaggeration! HEC - very nice

work on the product - I don't know why, but my NPA/SOE are getting dusty in my drawer :think:

Well I do know

why:lol:
AdrenaIine, could you please post how much you've worn with best results? Were did you apply it,

did you wear cover scent? Tha:thumbsup:nks!

HEC and Bel, that's great to hear then. From the hints as

"being one of the smelliest mones" I thought it was a no brainer to conclude with -none. I'm very interested in

trying this product out as a standalone, but I'm really quite suspiscious to wether it'll work as good without the

other goodies I'm used to wearing. I'll give it a real fair shot to see and will post my results.

HEC, could

you try to compare your to Chikara and A314?

:drunk:

[AdrenaIine]

AdrenaIine,

could you please post how much you've worn with best results? Were did you apply it, did you wear cover scent?

Tha:thumbsup:nks!

The dripper was kinda bad so I dumped some into my old NPA bottle - which I

washed thoroughly beforehand. I was dab once on each sideburns/area. Dab once on the adam's apple, and one on the

back of my neck. If I'm feeling lucky - I might dab a couple more times. So about 4 dabs to sometimes 6-8. I can

honestly say, that the amount you put on isn't an issue.. No OD'ing for me.. Even if I did OD, it probably worked

in my advantage :cheers: For cover scents I use Gucci Envy, Rochas Man, Bulgari Aqua... Now the first two are

winter scents, and the other aquatic I guess - it still blends well with the AQ. AQ can be worn with almost any

scent - as it's almost a sweet after shave type smell.

I've gotten great results using all amounts - I

definetly think you can apply this liberally without worry. It seems it made girls more open about how they are

feeling. I recieved numerous "Ooh you're so sexy" etc etc with girls just smelling my neck and the AQ.

[Archetypical Hybrid (HEC)]

Gfunk: I've

always thought that A1 smells stronger than -none..

[Gegogi]

From the hints as "being

one of the smelliest mones" I thought it was a no brainer to conclude with -none.

I assumed it was

likely 'rone. Rone is as funky as none. A-1 only has a slight phero musk to my nose. I'd rate it as faint and mild

compared to rone and none. I guess everyone's sense of smell is different.

[TRense]

I was like you

when I first started but I would say that with Aqagen you get a nice smell and the ladyes like it.. Many have posted

about good results about the smell with females.. :wub:
If you've smelled HUGO Energize (the scented)

smells sweet in the same way but is not feminine and has some other tones of scent to it.. But if you like HUGO

Energize I would say you would like the scented also because both are sweet smelly in a nice way that's NOT

feminine but that women also like without them thinking "he's gay"..

But it's up to you..
Btw. if you haven't

smelled HUGO Energize you can get a free scent-sample from HUGO on their website..You may be right, but my

problem with scented products in general is two-fold; most of the time I just don't like the added scent. Bu that

of course is a matter of taste, simple as that.

But even if I do happen to like it (and that HUGO you mentioned

is not a bad scent at all) there is always the problem of the scent not being strong enough.

For because the

effective dose is not the same for everyone, so the manufactor can't make his product to strong smelling, one or

two drop may be nice, but a double, or even a triple dose may turn you into a frag-bomb! Not something you want in

most cases...

So what happens is that after a couple of hours the phero's start to stink their way thru the frag

of the cologne, bad idea in most cases.

If I add my own I don't have all this problems, thats why I prefer

unscented.

[DrSmellThis]

So far I've worn it twice in

combination with a -nol product, and NPA, so I believe it was miscombined.

The effects were generally friendly

and positive, but very mild and not striking. I used one drop each time.

I've a better understanding now, since

I finally read the rest of the thread. So my next report or two will be much better.

[WorkingMann]

You may be

right, but my problem with scented products in general is two-fold; most of the time I just don't like the added

scent. Bu that of course is a matter of taste, simple as that.

But even if I do happen to like it (and that HUGO

you mentioned is not a bad scent at all) there is always the problem of the scent not being strong enough.

For

because the effective dose is not the same for everyone, so the manufactor can't make his product to strong

smelling, one or two drop may be nice, but a double, or even a triple dose may turn you into a frag-bomb! Not

something you want in most cases...

So what happens is that after a couple of hours the phero's start to stink

their way thru the frag of the cologne, bad idea in most cases.

If I add my own I don't have all this problems,

thats why I prefer unscented.

I've worn AQ and it really doesnt stink..
Often if a scented product will

have the chance of stinking after a few hours if when you sniff it from the bottle will have a bi-scent that isn't

that good.. If it totally smells strong and like a normal scent than it woun't stink after a few hours.. And even

if it stinks it normally isn't much..
And AQ smells good all the way through so woudn't be worryed about

it..
But else you can wait till the unscented AQ comes out..