i am 35, my wife 21, how do i seduce her again?

[nilai]

hi,

i met my now wife 3 years ago. i was wearing NPA at the time, because it always worked for me.

strangely enough, it didnt work on my wife, she thought i smelled bad.

stranger still, she fell madly in love

with me and we married.

we've had a pretty terrible year, and her feelings for me are at an all time low, so

i've decided to try some 'mones on her again.

i need her to feel that i'm her man, feel whatever feelings

that can drag her out of this dip.

I have read that RONE might be the best bet: NONE can make me seem

intimidating, and i'm sure she really didnt like me with the NPA. also that NOL can make me seem weak.

RONE

should make me seem young (good!) and safe, reliable and also awaken some other feelings.

should i go for Alter

Ego or SOE, i hear Alter Ego could be better for getting younger girls to feel good about you,

all comments

welcome! thanks!

by the way, we dont have a sex problem, so i don't need to OD on NONE. i think i need to

keep that to a minimum, she obviously doesnt go for it

[nilai]

forgot to add: i am totally NOT

alpha male.
i am also likely not to be in a great mood when i see her next/

[belgareth]

Go for SoE but first try to

figure out the problem and what needs to be done to resolve it. Mones aren't going to cure the core issues. Fix

them first.

[nilai]

thanks.

yes, we're working on

the issues, but we will be apart quite a bit because we have things to do in different countries.

i will be with

her for about 4 days and just want her feeling better about things when i leave again.

yes, SoE i was

considering.

alone or with an aftershave? if so what would work in your opinion? thanks!

[nilai]

p.s. sorry why not Alter Ego or

Perception which both also contain all 3 pheromones?

[slickracer]

i say go with the none, as

that was what you were useing when she fell in love with you right? mabey it'll bring back some good memories.



if you decite to go with ether alter ego or perception. just know that alter ego is rich in none and perception is

rich in rone (i beleive).

but if i were you i go with alter ego as it is my fave product more so then NPA, but

you are not me so i can't decite for ya.

oh dose your issue have anything to do with you guys haveing stuff to

do away from each other? such as work getting in the way of love?

[platinumfox]

Ok I'll be honest here I

don't think the mones will help.Sounds like the relationship is done.With all that time you are apart she probably

has another man.I am sorry but all the signs are there look how young she is anyone getting married at 18 she

hasn't experienced enough men and probably now has second thoughts on being married at such a young age.

[nilai]

cool cheers for the vote of

confidence:)

nah, we have some relationship problems but we're not doomed. she really isnt interested in

sleeping around, takes marriage very seriously, probbably because we have a kid.

as i havent used mones since

about 2 months into our relationship i thought i'd give it a go again, see what happens.

yes, she fell in love

with me with NONE, BUT said i smelled awful.

i really cant remember if i had anything else, or just NPA at the

time. sure there were a couple of other bottles knocking about.

what she needs is to feel i am a MAN to look

after her and the kid, that's the main issue, so maybe RONE.

any further thoughts?

cheers!

[nilai]

...i also have an inability to

write everything in the same message, sorry.

smell-wise, would it be AE or SoE?

can i use these as nice

fragrances without any aftershave?

thanks once again......

[koolking1]

I would go with AE/m

lightly and SOE heavily. Best Wishes for you both.

[bronzie]

Ok I'll be

honest here I don't think the mones will help.Sounds like the relationship is done.With all that time you are apart

she probably has another man.I am sorry but all the signs are there look how young she is anyone getting married at

18 she hasn't experienced enough men and probably now has second thoughts on being married at such a young

age.

the guy doesnt mention how much time they were apart, and her finding another man is mere

speculation on your part.

this guy is asking for help on pheromones i believe

to the original poster,

go for a straight, .nol , .rone mix, and apply lots of it

[belgareth]

thanks.

yes,

we're working on the issues, but we will be apart quite a bit because we have things to do in different

countries.

i will be with her for about 4 days and just want her feeling better about things when i leave

again.

yes, SoE i was considering.

alone or with an aftershave? if so what would work in your opinion?

thanks!
The scent is a purely personal preference, in my opinion. I like Aloeswood oil or Musk oil

myself.

As for the SoE, the idea is to improve the sensual side of how she feels in your company. Some of us can

wear -none in vast quantities and others cannot wear it at all without ODing. That fact colors our advice. If it

were me it would be a heavy dose of SoE and possibly a very light dab of TE.

On a more personal level, you need

to take her someplace and have fun. Lose the stress and worry, have fun like when you were dating.

Good luck

[CptKipling]

what she needs is

to feel i am a MAN to look after her and the kid, that's the main issue, so maybe RONE.

any further thoughts?



cheers!

BE THE MAN THEN!

Pheromones are NOT the answer here - forget about the quick fix. If she is

worth it to you put the effort in and go to work on your self.

Please provide more details.

[MOBLEYC57]

Time and distance away will

always damage a relationship. If work comes before the relationship ... there you have it. Mones or no mones,

loneliness is a pure relationship destroyer. Pair that with a weak/immature/mind that hasn't fully developed (21

years of age), and that's pretty much what the outcome will be.

As with everything else on this big round ball,

there's an exception.

Good luck. :wave:

[Marlboro_man]

Time and

distance away will always damage a relationship. If work comes before the relationship ... there you have it. Mones

or no mones, loneliness is a pure relationship destroyer.

I respectfully disagree mobes and would

prefer to say time and distance will usually kill a relationship but when the cards are played correctly they

can enhance it.

[Marlboro_man]

what she

needs is to feel i am a MAN to look after her and the kid, that's the main issue, so maybe RONE.

any further

thoughts?

cheers!
This sounds to me like a normal 21 y/o female response.I don't believe mones are

the answer unless you correct this behavior. Tell us why she doesn't feel you are a man. In her opinion, what is

lacking in you?

[MOBLEYC57]

I

respectfully disagree mobes and would prefer to say time and distance will usually kill a relationship but

when the cards are played correctly they can enhance it.

MM, it's okay that you disagree ... love you

still. My key word point through all of my chatter was strong mind. Everybody can't handle being a lone ... some

are glad their partners are always gone. True love? Not! :nono:

By reading his post, does he sounds like time

and distance is enhancing his relationship? :sick: :think: :POKE: :run:

[DogEye]

I'd have to say the best thing

you can do is to remind her of what attracted her to you in the first place. Mones may help, they may not. Don't

concentrate on "seducing" her, but rather act and talk and in every way BE the guy she fell in love with.
And by

the way, broke my forum cherry! I've been lurking for a couple of weeks, reading up on everyone's experiences, and

I'm looking forward to my own experiments. Received my newbie pack, plus NPA and Chikara today.
(And hey Bruce --

I used to live in Eugene too, for about 8 years.)

[nilai]

wow guys just saw all the extra

stuff posted here!

so sorry i've been slow in replying.

i'm 35, 5'11, and thin. i'm funny when i'm

feeling good.

yeah, being apart wasnt a greagt idea this time, things were fine when i last saw her. it's been

3 weeks. i've been alone, she's been with her family.
she wanted to see them, like you say she's young and

misses them.
i didnt have a choice, needed to be back in England for a while.

we never had problems before when

i didnt really care about her. i had my mones, i had fun. then i suddenly got attached to her like crazy, guess

it's the first time i ever fell in love.

and i'm really bad when we're apart, paranoid, calling her all the

time etc.

she certainly wants me to care a little less about her, to care more about myself and building a life

for us.

yes, i thought she had someone else a couple of times. and stupidly i did some digging, just to find it

was absolutely untrue. she just isnt interested in other men.

well, i hope my AE arrives in the morning! i may

have ordered too late to get it here before i fly.

in europe the choice of mones is very basic. lots of stuff i

have never heard of, and APC.

so i got the APC because i know it's real, and a couple of these local brews.

they smell nice but who knows what's inside:)

still, i will report back. they say this German stuff is good, we

shall see.

P6 super pheromone? sex in a bottle? the link is here if anyone's interested....

[Mungojerry]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Marlboro_man]

The

answer is probably in what you just said.

- Take more care of youself - develop some interests that having

nothing to do with her. Focus a little more on what you want. Try to become something better than you already

are.

- Stop calling her so often and don't act so clingy.

That will make more difference than pheromones

ever will.

Amen! Stop being clingy and that alone may solve your problems. She needs a strong confident

man who believes in himself and his relationship, lack of trust will kill any relationship.

[WorkingMann]

..........

[nilai]

yeah cheers guys. i know. less

clingy.
you should just see her.
they dont do obesity in lithuania, and believe me, i used the mones to get the

best of the best there.

think ABOVE supermodel.

i gave up 2 girlies who were so special, just for my girl.

at least i have the memories.

anyway, just tried the P6 and the "sex in a bottle" in a bar. the latter seemed

to be the one they liked.

at least i have some APC. i know it's pure NONE but it's all i've got.

as i

said, I ordered some AE but i'm flying in the morning and it wont get here in time.

i came here for advice,

and solace. and i got it. i know what i need, and i know what i need to do.

unfortunately what i NEED wont be

delivered until 4th jan, far too late.

not to worry, if she isn't going to play ball this time i'm free,

single and in lithuania, the land of plenty

[Marlboro_man]

Best of luck to ya on this,

hopefully it works out for you!

[WorkingMann]

..........

[xvs]

i need her to feel

that i'm her man, feel whatever feelings that can drag her out of this dip.


I had a difficult

girlfriend with a temper, and I found that what made her feel calmer and more loving was WAGG.

I still wear

it most days, because I find that I get much better, more positive reactions from women when I wear it than when I

don't.

[CptKipling]

You are apparently WAY to

clingy and possibly smothering.

Please know that drooling and pandering will never make a woman feel interested.

In short, care less, that easy. Have your own life. Don't act like you need her out of insecurity, but rather you

choose to be with her.

Good luck

[WorkingMann]

I had a difficult

girlfriend with a temper, and I found that what made her feel calmer and more loving was WAGG.

I still wear it

most days, because I find that I get much better, more positive reactions from women when I wear it than when I

don't.

How many drops and applied to where?
Combined with anything?
What coverscent?
Or do you at all

use coverscent?

[WorkingMann]

You are

apparently WAY to clingy and possibly smothering.

Please know that drooling and pandering will never make a woman

feel interested. In short, care less, that easy. Have your own life. Don't act like you need her out of insecurity,

but rather you choose to be with her.

Good luck

You can read David DeAngelo and his stuff.. He says

the same.. By the way great stuff to read..
And I don't mean you CptKipling to read it because obiusly you've got

it..

[CptKipling]

I am aware of some of his

material but I'm not what some might call a "student" of his. All you need is the abilty to see past the surface

and be objective. There is WAY more to dealing with women than what David Deangelo writes.

[WorkingMann]

I am aware

of some of his material but I'm not what some might call a "student" of his. All you need is the abilty to see past

the surface and be objective. There is WAY more to dealing with women than what David Deangelo writes.

I

know this.. But I'm new to his stuff so I'm just gonna read it through and use what I can and use what I can from

others..

[xvs]

How many drops and

applied to where?
Combined with anything?
What coverscent?
Or do you at all use

coverscent?

I don't use a cover scent. Girls actually seem to like the smell of the WAGG.

I

use about 2 drops on the sides of my neck.

Sometimes girls sniff it and ask me what cologne I'm wearing.

They say it's a like a musk. Which is closer to the truth than they know!

[WorkingMann]

I don't use a

cover scent. Girls actually seem to like the smell of the WAGG.

I use about 2 drops on the sides of my

neck.

Sometimes girls sniff it and ask me what cologne I'm wearing. They say it's a like a musk. Which is

closer to the truth than they know!

Is it 2 drops to each side or 2 drops total?
And how do you get your

drops out?
Not like a normal dropper? Because my WAGG pours out this stuff if I don't hold my finger on top of

it..

[CptKipling]

I know

this.. But I'm new to his stuff so I'm just gonna read it through and use what I can and use what I can from

others..

Should have made it clearer that I was addressing the original poster, I wasn't supposing to

know what you knew :thumbsup:

[Mr. Happy]

How to get your lover back... (http://www.amazon.com/How-Get-Your-Lover-Back/dp/0440500893)

Might

help. Who knows?

[xvs]

Is it 2 drops to

each side or 2 drops total?
And how do you get your drops out?
Not like a normal dropper? Because my WAGG

pours out this stuff if I don't hold my finger on top of it..

2 drops total, but I don't find it

easy at all to OD on WAGG.

I either let a couple of drops drop into my hand, or I turn it over and sort of

shake it while I hold my finger over the hold, until it's quite moist.

[WorkingMann]

2 drops total,

but I don't find it easy at all to OD on WAGG.

I either let a couple of drops drop into my hand, or I turn it

over and sort of shake it while I hold my finger over the hold, until it's quite moist.

The last I do

to.. Else I can' measure precise enough

[surfs_up]

sometimes they will recommend that the man see a psychologist individually, the woman see a

different psychologist, and the two see a third psychologist, a marriage counselor type... this is what my cousin

did when his marriage fell apart and he and his wife had two young daughters. You have to understand what motivates

you, she has to understadnwhat motivates her, and then you have to know how to make the necessary changes in your

communication patterns, expectations of each other, how the relationship affects your self image, all that stuff...

it's a big investment but it is the rest of your life you will have to live with...

[nilai]

ok guys, here's what happened:



ALL IS OK! mones? who knows. i got my AE after i arrived home this morning. not much use then.

i ditched

the P6, people told me it smelled like shit.

i had this other stuff, called sex in a bottle, mainly NONE AND nol

but doesnt seem possible to OD on it. had some good hits before i went. i mean, i didnt act on the hits, far too

in love with my babe.

and i got some APC. weak as anything, but at least we all know it's the real thing.



anyway, whatever, we are ok.

it was just the being apart. driving me crazy and i needed any advantage.

so

i'll go collect her from lithuania in 3 weeks, she is already missing me like hell, and this time i'm being cool,

nogt clingy, getting on with other things.

is there any way to post a photo here? for those of you who have

never seen lithuanian girls and dont know what the fuss is about, i'd love to show you
:)

well, many thanks

for all the help all y'all.

[nilai]

balls. why can i never remember

to get everything into one thread? no wonder wifey thought i was clingy if i had to write 20 emails a day just cos

i kept forgetting things.

AE: how heavy should the dose be? i've always ODed on NPA (still worked, god they

must have been horny) and i use about 1/2 bottle of APC just for anyone to notice.

but AE is the real thing, and

i see the bottle isnt very big.

how much to use, where and how often re-apply would you say?

many thanks!

[gaf]

Start with three drops and work your

way up.
I find if I've worn it for a few days in a row I need less "top up". I'm a hairy dude and notice that

the mones stick around for a while on me , therefore I only tend to reapply after about 10hrs. YMMV.
3-4 drops

is my magic number... 3 drops is lots of attention from girls and respect from guys , 4 drops is dangerous in the

company of drunk girls but loads of respect from the guys!
( results mostly darker skinned woman 20+ , all

age/race guys)
hope that helps...

application points:
one drop on each inside of the elbow , (in the

crease)
one drop split between each side of the neck under ears.
another drop (or two) gently rubbed in hands

and then through the hair, then lightly rub my hands on whatever top I'm wearing at the time.
(It's summer

here so application may vary in winter time.):type:

[WorkingMann]

i ditched the

P6, people told me it smelled like shit.


I told ya :lol:
I can't stand the shit! I wanna wammit so

just stick to products from L-S..
AE has a very nice smell I think.. I love it! :lovestruc
But would say 2-4

drops.. but even though theres a pipette the drops will not always be same size.. Some are small if you press slowly

(when getting them out) and of you press a little faster they will be a little bigger but I've never had problems

wether the drops were small or big..

[gaf]

I told ya

:lol:
AE has a very nice smell I think.. I love it! :lovestruc


I love the smell od AE too , in

the early days of using it I only put on a drop or two because I didn't want to smell too err , smelly...
After

a while I noticed the top notes dissapeared in about ten to thirty minutes and combined with a subtle cover cologne

i was rockin' ! :cheers:

[nilai]

thanks guys, but please explain

thsi comment:

"4 drops is dangerous in the company of drunk girls "

dangerous how? sounds fine to me:)

[WorkingMann]

thanks guys,

but please explain thsi comment:

"4 drops is dangerous in the company of drunk girls "

dangerous how?

sounds fine to me:)
I don't know if he means because drunk girls almost will attack you because their

drunk (drunk girls are more flirty and more obius about their attraction) or that the 4 drop will make an more

aggresive OD because thei're drunk..
I would mostly think it's the first..

<<< -- Girls

You -->>
:kiss: :lovestruc :twisted: :drunk::wub: :kiss: :lovestruc :drunk:

:lovestruc :wub: :kiss: :lovestruc :whip:

[nilai]

well, hey. do i cARE? I lost my

clinginess and everything. a sea-change came over my psyche and i just stopped caring.

btw i still recommend

lithuania as girl paradise. especailly as they dont have monety. just great bodies and smiles. is there

seriously somewhere i can post a pic of wifey?

if not, log in to pazintys.com or even worse pazintysxxx.com.

this is no ad, just some advice to you guys. forget the rest, go for the best.

ok, so Sex in a Bottle seems to

smell nice from Germany. AE from you guys.

anyone mixed AE and a heavy dose of the heavily watered down APC?

any use? or stick to AE by itself.

i've got lith girls all over me. and that's online. so no mones

involved. guess i just got my confience back.

thanks for the advice all. i know clingy and needy is bad. but

what does a guy in love do?

neil

thanks once again.

[nilai]

p.s. "sex in a bottle" is some

'90s concoction from ******.co.uk. for anyone in the UK who needs 24 hour service. sorry bruce, is just a

desperate measure. girls seem to like the scent.

is NONE and NOL.

no RONE. doesnt appear to have reached

europe yet.

well, lucky me:)

[gaf]

thanks guys, but please

explain thsi comment:

"4 drops is dangerous in the company of drunk girls "

dangerous how? sounds

fine to me:)

Well, put it this way. Sometimes the amount of attention can become embarrasing ie:

serious stares , flirty behaviour to the max.:run:

[WorkingMann]

Well, put it this

way. Sometimes the amount of attention can become embarrasing ie: serious stares , flirty behaviour to the

max.:run:

Thought so..
:lol:

[Marlboro_man]

well, hey. do

i cARE? I lost my clinginess and everything. a sea-change came over my psyche and i just stopped caring.



thanks for the advice all. i know clingy and needy is bad. but what does a guy in love do?

neil

thanks

once again.
Rember that it's your wife you don't have to stop caring, just stop being clingly. Congrats

on getting your life back and keep up the good work! There are a lot of good people in this forum who know what

their talking about.

[nilai]

ok, a quickie question. i now

have my AE, is it one of the better ones for the younger girl? my wife is 21. she's not really a sex person. a

babe, yes, but sex with anyone but her hubby doesnt interest her, i'm happy to say.

but in general, AE has NOL

and RONE which is what i need.

what would happen if it wasnt giving the right signals and i wanted a fast

result? if i added APC (the only other stuff i've got) what would the resulting smell/effect be?

thanks. just

trying to learn.

btw i used to use NPA only. I ODed all the time but they jumped all over me. so there's

something strange for you all to consider:)))))

[WorkingMann]

ok, a quickie

question. i now have my AE, is it one of the better ones for the younger girl? my wife is 21. she's not really a

sex person. a babe, yes, but sex with anyone but her hubby doesnt interest her, i'm happy to say.

but in

general, AE has NOL and RONE which is what i need.

what would happen if it wasnt giving the right signals and i

wanted a fast result? if i added APC (the only other stuff i've got) what would the resulting smell/effect be?



thanks. just trying to learn.

btw i used to use NPA only. I ODed all the time but they jumped all over me.

so there's something strange for you all to consider:)))))

About the NPA.. Many have strangely enough

seen OD's where the sexual "attacks" have been more massive when not OD'ing.. I can't explain it.. :rofl:
About

the AE..
If you read about AE is one of the more succesfull ones.. Many have had greats results with it.. And I

will say it's not an "young ones" only because both older and young ones can use this with great results..