Liquid Trust Results So Far

[Mungojerry]

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[maxo-texas]

LT has been hard for me to

see anything.
Certainly not the sledgehammer of soe or npa.

It may have made me and gf very "trancy" and talky

one time- we were kinda hyper which was unusual.

[Gegogi]

In social situations, I found the

effects of LT subtle at best. Perhaps you need to be on top of your subject and staring in her eyes for results. But

then if you got that far you wouldn't need LT. Fortunately the bottle makes a nice atomizer. When I finish mine I

plan to top it off with an Issey Miyaye Summer and Androstanone mix.

[smooth312]

LT has been very consistent

for me. I think I know why you aren'ts seeing results.

First time you applied 2 sprays and you covered

it!

LT doesn't need a cover scent, because it has no scent! Yes, it has a funky scent the first few seconds,

but wait just a minute and you can't smell a thing.

Also, ONLY APPLY TO CLOTHES. That is what has made it one

of my most solid items. I put on 4 sprays, 2x to each shoulder, and sometime even three sprays in triangular shape

around my chest.

I think 4-6 sprays ON CLOTHES is the optimal amount. If you don't think the stuff is for

real, try spraying 5 sprays on your hand and then rubbing it on your upper lip, right under your nose. You'll see

how it effects you! It gives for a nice buzz actually, and you will experience some very "candid slips" with

others.

[Sunny]

I agree to Smooth. It works

consitently on me, on myself. It takes away any bad feelings in uncomfortable social situations when I wear it on my

upper lip, right under my nose.

To get it to work on others, I also need at least 6 sprays. I have the idea that

it does not travel much through the air.

Because if others would experience the same effect I get from just one

spray in my upper lip... WOW!

The very first time I got a great buzz, I have now habituated, so the effects are

subtle but still, this stuff is invaluable for me at business meetings where I would normally feel uncomfortable. It

helps to change my feeling A LOT, so my behavior changes which has a big influence on others.

[Mungojerry]

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[Sunny]

Since we don't know if the

chemicals of the cologne interfere with the oxytocin, it might be wise not to mix it. I put the LT on clothes and

the cologne on my neck...

[Mungojerry]

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[Sunny]

Keep us posted :goodpost:

[Mungojerry]

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[Sunny]

I like true live-reports... keep

the channel open :-)

[smooth312]

^those are good detailed

posts.

Let me just say though...I kind of get the feeling you may be expecting the wrong type of result with

it?

At first when I tried it, I didn't know what to expect. But the types of effects are not usually sexual at

all when I use it.

The times I've used it, the "hits" have been...

- co-manager at work telling me the

things he hates about my manager, like talking behind his back (stuff he would not normally say)
- my boss telling

me he really wishes he had done such and such, and how much he really doesn't feel he's in the right

career...

For the most part, it's like people rant to me about stuff that they usually wouldn't. Stuff I would

not find out if it wasn't for LT.

In a way, I kind of actually regret using it sometimes because when you find

out some stuff about some people - at least me - it makes me feel a different way about them. Like my boss for

example, he's always so "jolly" around work, but when I wore LT around him that time I almost felt like he was

going to cry about how he really hates his job. It was just a little disturbing.

I can also definitely feel LT

working when I wear it with NPA, PI, or another -none heavy 'mone. With those, I usually get people being very

edgy around me, and women being fidgety. But when I put on the LT, they are still very magnetized, just a lot more

comfortable. They are more comfortable touching me, it's like they're in a trance state. But then when LT wears

off in like 2-3hrs, I can suddenly feel the edginess coming back.

So, I guess my advice is look for the subtle

effects. LT isn't sexual or attention-grabbing, at least in my experience. It's really nice with a -none

product.

The only "sexual" hit I had with it was once at a store, I was also wearing a dab of NPA and a girl

approached me. She was really comfortable touching my arm etc, and for some reason I was also really comfortable

around her like I already knew her, so comfortable that I almost kissed her within a minute of talking to her

(actually didn't right then but almost)... It was sweet. With straight NPA she would have probably eyed me, but

not approached and would be more nervous I'd guess.

Try getting into some lengthy conversations with people,

sitting like 2ft away. You'll be talking for like 5-6min, then the other person may start getting too honest about

some things. It seems like it works best like this...it takes time to "settle in" with your target. Actually, you

don't even have to be talking much...as long as you sit close to someone for like more than 5min, they may get

affected.

Keep us posted ;)

[Mungojerry]

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[Mungojerry]

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[gaf]

I tried LT , didn't notice any real

results but I did tend to use 4 sprays only....
I seem to often get people telling me "secrets" , part of my job is

to listen to people talking alot of the time and I've learnt a lot of techniques over the years to get people to

open up. As result it's not uncommon for me to have a stranger tell me very personnal details of their life , in

short I'm a natural listener.
With regards to LT I didn't notice much difference , maybe if I upped the dose? I

used it with SOE alot of the time so it may have been difficult to notice any "extra" honesty.
Anyway , seasons

greetings and all that to everyone!

[starshipwarrior]

interesting comments I

used 4 sprays and have not noticed any great revalations from anyone or any new news that I didn't already

know

I will try the 6 sprays next and see what happens ?
The one female I know likes me (but will sleep with

me(not yet anyway LOL) showed No effect or revealed any thing that I do not know in fact she acted more quite than

normal and seemed preoccipied)

So new test next week

Starship Warrior

[Sunny]

Guys, wear one full spray on your

upper lip and right under your nose (don't spray into the nose of cause), put it on right before you go into a

situation where you would otherwise feel socially uncomfortable or even have a little bit of anxiety.

See if you

notice a difference!

[Mungojerry]

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[Marlboro_man]

I finally had some results

while wearing LT that are worth mentioning. Last night while wearing my typical SOE and NPA combo I decided to add

3 sprays of LT to my shirt. I did the usual stuff go to a bar and be myself and noticed nothing different here. I

was at a very busy bar where I knew very few people so I knew it would be a good test ground. Well anyways ended

meeting a girl (cute shy type) and making out with her in the parking lot. I have made out with lots of girls

before, but this is where it got different. This girl during this time could not control what she was saying. She

would say what she wants and how she likes it without me asking, but would not go through with it. I'm not going

to post exact details, but you get the point. I have been with lots of girls who told me how they like it and the

such before but this was different. It's hard to explain but it was like one freudian slip after another. In the

end my point is this: it may or may not have been the LT but it was different than I have ever expierienced before

and was worth mentioning.

[Sunny]

That is a good

point. Perhaps using LT specifically to change my own reactions that using it to directly influence those of

others.

That's what I am mainly using it for!

It feels like I habituated to it because I don't get

the buzz any more, but it still seems to work, I just don't notice it that much consciously. Since I am putting LT

under my nose before every meeting which could become uneasy for me - they ALL felt easy and of cause this had

really improved my social interactions (not that they were bad before, but there is not limit of getting even

better).

So, please try it and give us some feedback!

Marlboro Man, I am glad that you had unusual fun in

the parking lot :wave: Over time you should see if LT plays a role in your mix or not...

[Marlboro_man]

Marlboro

Man, I am glad that you had unusual fun in the parking lot :wave: Over time you should see if LT plays a role in

your mix or not...

Thanks Sunny.

Ok update on past post: I hung out with same girl last night and of

course this time wore the NPA & SOE combo without the LT for comparison sake. Girl had same sexual drive as before,

if not more, but definitely was MUCH more conservative with what she said. We ended up taking it to another level

last night, but it wasn't her saying what she wanted to do to me, rather it was the more traditional way of me

reading the signs and offering suggestions. Maybe there is something to this after all, I am curious to see if

anyone else is seeing similar things.

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[Sunny]

Ok, one

unreported LT experience.

Earlier this week I have an engagement that I was somewhat nervous about.

In the

morning before the engagement I held my nose, pulled my lips inside my mouth and shut my mouth tightly. I then

sprayed one shot to the area beneath my nose.

I soon notice my nerves diminished and the feeling lasted for an

hour or so.

Later that day before the meeting began I applied again in the same way, this time with two sprays.

Again the nervous feeling diminished.

If I can replicate this finding, it could be very useful if one is nervous

about approaching girls and wants to maintain their confidence.

YES!!! That's exactly what I am doing

all the time, Mungojerry! Your expericence sounds very familiar to me.

I usually spray on the back of my hand

and then rub it under my nose. I don't think it's a problem, as long as you don't spray it INTO your nose, like

on your mucous tissue (never happened to me).

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[Sunny]

Sunny, when you

have tried it, have you noticed that it improves your mood when you are confident/happy already, or do you have to

be nervous allready to see a corrective effect?

I am now talking about the times when I consciously

noticed the difference: It makes my mood more mellow, or soft. It takes the edge off, even off a very positive mood,

makes me more cuddly. The helpful effect is really more in socially tense situations. It would be very helpful to

overcome approach anxiety, for me it's with tough clients.

Nowadays I am normally not consciously able to

notice effects, but when I look back to pre-LT times, my level of comfort with certain clients has really been

transformed.

I think it's a great idea to test the effect on yourself during things like engagements, public

spreaking (for the anxious ones) or even to reduce approach anxiety for PUA training etc.

Keep those reports

coming!

[Marlboro_man]

Hey guys,
Thanks for the

new concept of how to use it. Now I just need to get nervous again and have it with me. Maybe I will go out this

weekend to somewhere new, but probably unlikely due to the holidays. I will try your approach eventually and report

back.