View Full Version : Why don't Aussie girls date Asian men?
bronzie
10-18-2006, 08:51 PM
This statement is very very true, White caucasion women tend to avoid Asian men in the dating scene (at least in
Australia), and Asian women are often snapped up by White Caucasion men, leaving the poor Asian guys wondering what
is going on?
I have been on many dates with Asian girls in Oz, and when I get sighted from a bunch of Asian
guys with an Asian girl while walking the street or at a bar, I get frowned on, even insulted, it is as if im
"stealing" or "taking away" one of thiers. I do understand thier point of view and thier frustration.
COULD
IT BE THE LACK OF .NONE? Asian men produce less .none, so I have read, maybe white women just expect a standard, and
Asian men dont have it. I believe the issues might be a bit deeper than this, however pheromone production may play
a part?
JVkhol, what is your take on this? this is a pretty serious Issue in Australia, theres millions of
Asian Men without a partner because of this phenomenon.
Here is the Link to the Article im stating
from
:
http:/
/blogs.theage.com.au/lifestyle/allmenareliars/archives/2006/10/_back_in_august.html (http://blogs.theage.com.au/lifestyle/allmenareliars/archives/2006/10/_back_in_august.html)
Gegogi
10-18-2006, 09:10 PM
Bronzie I think there are
significant cultural overtones in the Asian male/White female situation in Australia. While growing up in the
Pacific Northwest of the USA, it was similar to current Australia a couple decades ago. However, as more Asians
moved in and and demonstrated success professionally and socially, the situation changed signficantly. I see lots of
Asian men with white or other non-Asian women, at least in the larger cities like Seattle and Portland, and
especially in university areas.
Here in Hawaii the Asian male white female union is so common the local
advertisers make a point to use mixed race couples in most ads. I was surprised at the large numbers of White women
openly attracted to me when I first moved here. Part of the reason I moved here was for the Asian women as White
women usually ignored me in Seattle. I assume there are so many different races here in Honolulu--no clear
majority--the old taboos became meaningless.
bronzie
10-18-2006, 09:26 PM
I get, however, what I dont
understand is this, Asian migrants have been living in Australia for well over 150 years during the gold rush era,
and even these 4-5th generation Asians are so Australianized if I can put it that way, they still have
problems.
Ofcourse, most of Australias Asian population are new migrants, but first generation Asians tend to
be more Aussie then Aussie, they have the accents etc, however they do keep thier culture from the "old land" which
I find great.
My guess here is, there is nothing wrong with the Asian guys, but something definantly wrong
with Australian girls. And I think the problem is "CLOSED MINDEDNESS" or even shall I say a hint of racism?
Auatralia up until as recent as the 70s, had a white Australia policy of racial discrimination, in some ways, it
didnt differ to much to South Africa.
I have raised this Issue here, but it is a rather serious one
especially for young asian men. They start to feel isolated and withdrawn, and thier social circle becomes very
small, and often not productive.
I have seen Asian gangs, drug use etc, because of thier relative cultural
isolation and thier frustration.
Gegogi
10-19-2006, 01:51 AM
My family tried to migrate to
Australia during the l960s. My father apparently practiced an occupation in short supply and the government was
willing to pay his way. Unfortunately he was ultimately turned down due to being Asian.
Although I adore women of
all colors and creeds, I have a preference for Asian women once it's time to settle down. And 75% of Asian men I
know get the "forbidden fruit" thing out of their system and usually want to marry another Asian as well. So it may
not be that Aussie women avoid Asian men. Perhaps Asian men are also avoiding them? My family certainly was not keen
on me dating outside my race. Asians are just as racist as anybody else.
Bronzie,
I live over the ditch from
you and yes, I've noticed the same thing here. It's not that unusual to see a white guy/asian woman but VERY rare
to see the reverse. In fact, I'm not sure I've seen it more then once or twice.
But being a young country this
sort of thing is bound to happen , it's changed alot in the last 20 years due to the large influx of Asian
immigrants , for the better I think. I know a lot of other (non asian) mixed race couples who get a hard time from
others that can't see beyond the skin colour...
Regarding the whole mixed race thing, I'm dating a polynesian
woman and have been for the last year and a half. I've been told on a few occasions by my family to find a "nice
white girl" , the interesting thing is that some other polynesian guys don't like it at all either and also we get
our fair share of stares when out... Her cousins didn't trust me at first but now they realise it's not a "fetish
thing" we get on really well. In fact they've often asked me too hook them up with a nice white boy like
myself...
Bronzie,
Here is your answer
matie.. Read it.
http://blogs.smh.com.au/lifestyle/allmenareliars/archives/2006/10/whats_wrong_wit.html
ToxDoc
10-19-2006, 08:27 AM
Bronzie,
I am moving
across the ditch to your side next year; geez, you are not giving me much confidence.
For the record, I am a
mutt who looks mostly Asian. However, I have had a few relationships with white girls. Over the past few years, I
have come to realised the importance of having an inner game. The topic has been discussed many times on the board
already, so I am not about to repeat what others have said.
If I may give two honest advices to fellow (full
or part) Asian members, pay attention to your body shape. Being bony does not increase your attractiveness. Also,
learn to read body language. Men in general are not good at reading and projecting body language; a lot of Asians
are simply shocking when it comes to this, even by male standard.
G’day to gaf from the deep south.
koolking1
10-19-2006, 08:36 AM
thread of replies to
the original article. Myself, I tend to look for "good looks" rather than race. There was a poll here in the USA
not too long ago that indicated that approximately 85% of persons in one race would only look to others of the same
race for a partner. That seems about right to me just from general observation. I had some Laotian Air Force
acquaintances who received pilot training in the USA some 35-40 years ago and one of the highlights of their time in
the USA was a trip to New Orleans and bagging some hookers (high-priced ones). They just wanted the experience and
every one of them wound up married to Laotian females eventually.
Would it be racist to describe someone as
having a fetish towards a particular race? I've often thought that was the impetus, a fetish.
Bronzie,
(snip)
Over the past few years, I have come to realised the importance of having an inner game. The topic
has been discussed many times on the board already, so I am not about to repeat what others have said.
GÕday to
gaf from the deep south.
Thats the most important thing, your ability to make others comfortable with
you and how you feel on the inside.
I know plenty of guys who aren't wealthy,goodlooking etc but have no trouble
with the ladies because they have "game". A friendly smile and good attitude seems to work for them regardless of
race.(and 'mones!)
I've got a great book by Professor Robert Winston called: Human Instinct , how our
primeval impulses shape our modern lives (based on the BBC doco series) He says it much better then I ever could.
Basicly, from an evolution standpoint we look for a mate that is from the same "tribe" as our goal is to strengthen
our community. Just look at all those couples that look the same , you know the ones I mean, they look like they
could be bro and sis.
Toxdoc , hello from jaffaland! I'm originally from the south and miss it heaps...
it's my spiritual home, and can't wait to get back.
:thumbsup:
bronzie
10-19-2006, 03:33 PM
Although I adore
women of all colors and creeds, I have a preference for Asian women once it's time to settle down. And 75% of Asian
men I know get the "forbidden fruit" thing out of their system and usually want to marry another Asian as well. So
it may not be that Aussie women avoid Asian men. Perhaps Asian men are also avoiding them? My family certainly was
not keen on me dating outside my race. Asians are just as racist as anybody else.
I guess its a
preference thing, dictated by cultural conditioning, however, White men, at least in Australia are not that racist,
you see alot with Asian and every other nationality, however the caucasion Women seem to be very stubborn in this
area, especially towards Asian men. Hence this article.
I have dated women from every continent, but I always
come back to European women for some reason, or should I say white caucasion women (Aussie girls with a European
background, Irish-French-English or Southern Europe), I guess thats just my preference.
bronzie
10-19-2006, 03:37 PM
Bronzie,
I
am moving across the ditch to your side next year; geez, you are not giving me much confidence.
For the
record, I am a mutt who looks mostly Asian. However, I have had a few relationships with white girls. Over the past
few years, I have come to realised the importance of having an inner game. The topic has been discussed many times
on the board already, so I am not about to repeat what others have said.
If I may give two honest advices to
fellow (full or part) Asian members, pay attention to your body shape. Being bony does not increase your
attractiveness. Also, learn to read body language. Men in general are not good at reading and projecting body
language; a lot of Asians are simply shocking when it comes to this, even by male standard.
G’day to gaf from
the deep south.
Relax tox, its not as doom and gloom as it seems, theres places and types of white
girls that are extremely open minded and will go for an Asian guy, you just have to know the scene. if you want
pointers, let me know..
which city are you going too? Syd or Melb?
ahhhh,
date doctor Bronzie is in
the house!
Relax tox, its not as
doom and gloom as it seems, theres places and types of white girls that are extremely open minded and will go for an
Asian guy, you just have to know the scene. if you want pointers, let me know..
which city are you going too? Syd
or Melb?
Hey Bronze,
Where's a good scene for this around sydney man? Do tell...
Regards,
NFS
jambat
10-19-2006, 06:46 PM
A lot of chicks dig Asians.
Blacks chicks are getting into Asian guys here in Chicago, especially at the college level.
It's cool to
know some martial arts too. American media also shapes our way of thinking, so cool Asian guys all know martial arts
as well as we black guys know how to dance. I'm sure Jackie Chan, Jet Li and Tony Jaa could get dates. Plus tough
guys get chicks period so it seems women are attracted to the same things all around.
But seriously, be
cool, be masculine and be approachable and don't forget to come on. Give a girl a wink and nod. You know how it's
done. The chicks will come.
-Bat
woofa1
10-19-2006, 06:55 PM
Good discussion. Dont know
why.LOve to get some stastical data on this one? I live in oz southern side. I have also observed the situation with
black women and white guys. I dont see much coupling here either? Maybe its just a ratio thing, that is not as many
black/ african women around? Or it could be as one other member mentioned a cultural thing? Interesting though. I
would love to see some data on this before making a subjective observation?
jambat
10-19-2006, 06:59 PM
Also some of the Asian guys who
hang around a lot of women, seem to get dates easier. They are very masculine meaning they will approach women, have
no fear, seem to at times man-handle women and treat them in a very 1950's type way, but these are the Asian guys
who seem to get the chicks.
-Bat
Oceanborn
10-19-2006, 07:06 PM
Seems like a sissors, paper,
stone game here.
Asian chicks dig White guys, White chicks dig Black guys, Black chicks dig Asian
guys..
:D
koolking1
10-19-2006, 07:36 PM
Gegogi's response.
I'm mystified though, what promted you Bronzie to ask this question in the first place?
bronzie
10-19-2006, 09:04 PM
Hey
Bronze,
Where's a good scene for this around sydney man? Do tell...
Regards,
NFS
age, etc, more info...what are you after???? I know syd well, lived like
richard gere there for awaile in the exclusive hotel distict in the city, lived the high life, syd is a little to
fast for me now, i prefer melb, but both have thier good points
bronzie
10-19-2006, 09:05 PM
Gegogi's
response. I'm mystified though, what promted you Bronzie to ask this question in the first
place?
Because I felt the need to spread the word!:thumbsup:
Seems like a
sissors, paper, stone game here.
Asian chicks dig White guys, White chicks dig Black guys, Black chicks dig
Asian guys..
:D
OMG true words man, asian guys have absolutely no chance with white girls, and if
they do , not with teh hot looking ones. I get hit on by black chix all the time while Asian chix mostly ignore me
if I don't initiate the conversation. For all the Asian guys who aren't getting any, they need to take a vacation
to their homeland, women in Asian love rich foreign Asian men:LOL: .
Gegogi
10-21-2006, 11:04 PM
OMG true words man, asian
guys have absolutely no chance with white girls, and if they do , not with teh hot looking ones.
I'm Korean, and, in my personal experience, that just is no longer true in Hawaii or on the West
Coast (can't speak for the rest of the USA or Australia). Also, although I've only been to Europe a couple times,
European women are even more open mined about Asian men (Black men too). Of course you need to have something more
to offer than merely being Asian... And yes, I had Greek, Jewish, Spanish and Swedish GFs while in college, and that
was a long time ago. I wasn't nearly as fortunate with White American girls in the 70s and 80s. Oddly, Black women
have always seemed to like me.
However, I have often noticed White guys often get ugly Asian GFs. I figured
they couldn't tell the difference as they all look similar at first!
Oceanborn
10-21-2006, 11:17 PM
However, I have
often noticed White guys often get ugly Asian GFs. I figured they couldn't tell the difference as they all look
similar at first!
That's very true! I'm 100% asian living in asia.
Though there're plenty of
white male / asian female couples. Most of the females are not that good looking. Though the white guy is good
looking.
I put my profile on Internet Dating websites and most girls that hit on me are Whites, Latinos and
Blacks. Very seldom do an asian hit on me (I guess they all go for the white guys).
oceanborn, where are u living now?
Oceanborn
10-21-2006, 11:49 PM
Also, if you look at the SOL
List of Australia (Immigrants whose skills are listed in in the list have higher chances of their Visas approved).
They are mostly engineers, accountants and such..
Thus immigrants are associated with the nerdy
image.
But Asians are associated with the cool image in other parts of the world as quoted by Gegogi.
Including Hollywood.
woofa1
10-22-2006, 12:28 AM
Well done bronzie for iniating a
interesting discussion. I live in oz southern side.And i find in the Aussie girls generally very laid back.
But
often find it hard to apply a simple conversation. I dont know why?
Not being egotistical or anything.But i am
very good at using kino, as i do a lot of public speaking.A lot of my single male friends, find it difficult to
start conversations with them. And then continuing, its bizarre/? tongue and cheek rectified after a couple of
drinks .
The point is that i have spoken to many different types of women , nationalities that is. And have
found this to be the case on more than one occasion. I find american women very easy to talk to. Coulped with
european women. I am european myself, heritage speaking.
I FIND ASIAN WOMEN IN GENERAL warm and kind hearted.
Actually dating one at the moment? Intersting though? Oh, well i think culture has a lot do do with it?
Oceanborn
10-22-2006, 03:37 AM
This is an interesting
topic.
I used to work retail at the Airport, and we have customers from all over the world.
I find the
Australians and British easiest to talk to.
At the other end of the spectrum are Asians and Indians, which
are the most unfriendly.
Perhaps different people see different things.. your inside world manifests your
outside world.. Like the very same party, one person may say it's boaring while another may say it rocks.
Oceanborn, when europeans and other
white ppl enter a foreign country, where asians are the majority, they are gonna be :
1. in a freaking good
holiday mood ie. chatty
2. they gotta be freaking friendly when they're da minority.
When you're the
foreigner, u'll find a good number who aren't very friendly towards you until they know you better.
Btw-
Ex singaporean here, now livin in Australia
thepwnerer
10-22-2006, 12:35 PM
I think the answer to this
question lies in the ways that asians are brought up. I'm full blood chinese and I go to a university where it's
predominately white. I came from a place where I am the majority. When I came to this university it was the first
time I witness so much touching between people. Asian people have a bigger personal space. When I grew up I never
told my parents I love them and they never told me. I never hugged them and they never hugged me etc. Love in an
triditional asian family is "understood". This was big for me. I found myself in situations where If a white girl
got close and started talking to me I'd lean away.
We were raised to be wussies. My mother always told me you
have to be nice and handsome and rich inorder for a woman to marry you. In triditional asian cultures they marry to
gain status. There are these ridiculous things that asians abide by. For example, a tall male shouldn't marry any
short female. I brought home a short girl and my mother yelled the fuck out of me.
There is this thing called
"face" that runs every triditional asian's life. "face"=respect. It goes a bit like this. If you are successful
academically and rich your family has more "face". If you marry a white woman/man your family has more face. If the
person that you marry has more money then your family will have more "face". Some asians, although this isn't
mentioned explicitly, feel inferior to white people because of the concept of "face". White people in general have
everything that would get them face. When I first came to this university I felt I was inferior to every white
person I see. This made quiet whenever a white person speaks and I though I was going to make a fool out of myself
if I spoke. Also I found that minorities hang out with other minorities mainly because of economic status. In
general white people have more money than minorities.
I realize I threw out a lot of cultural differences but I
haven't really shown how they specifically hinder asian guy-white woman dating. What I'm trying to say is that I
think asian people have many cultural differences from white people making it harder to interact with each other.
Asian people are still new to this country and have not fully accultrated (especially my parents). I think that if
after a few more generations of asians living in america you'd see more and more white woman with asian
guys.
FUCK I can't wait that long. I think I need to work on my inner game/accultrate more. I think thats what
all asians should do.
Oceanborn
10-22-2006, 03:23 PM
Oceanborn, when
europeans and other white ppl enter a foreign country, where asians are the majority, they are gonna be :
1.
in a freaking good holiday mood ie. chatty
2. they gotta be freaking friendly when they're da minority.
When you're the foreigner, u'll find a good number who aren't very friendly towards you until they know
you better.
Btw- Ex singaporean here, now livin in Australia
Well, I guess it's true that asian
male are just low-life scam on this planet.
Better get a sex change tomorrow and hopefully marry a white male
to get out of this stupid cuntry.
Or just get extinct like the panda bears because that's proberbly bettery
for the world.
bronzie
10-22-2006, 04:51 PM
Ocean easy easy buddy, no need
for the racism.
bronzie
10-22-2006, 06:39 PM
Good discussion.
Dont know why.LOve to get some stastical data on this one? I live in oz southern side. I have also observed the
situation with black women and white guys. I dont see much coupling here either? Maybe its just a ratio thing, that
is not as many black/ african women around? Or it could be as one other member mentioned a cultural thing?
Interesting though. I would love to see some data on this before making a subjective
observation?
Good observation Woofa, yes this is pretty rare in Oz.
bronzie
10-22-2006, 06:44 PM
I find american
women very easy to talk to. Coulped with european women.
Good words Woofa, yeah thats a Great Combo,
a Coupled yank with Euro chick, would make my night!
:lovestruc
bronzie
10-22-2006, 06:54 PM
However, I have
often noticed White guys often get ugly Asian GFs. I figured they couldn't tell the difference as they all look
similar at first!
Gegogi, Asian guys, Black guys, White Guys, Red Guys, all guys can tell the
difference between a good looking girl and an ugly girl, and it doesnt matter what background or creed the girl is,
sometimes a guy gets a girl he deserves, I mean if he is not a Greek god, he is not actually going to get a Goddess?
so to speak...
for instance, im attracted to Asian girls, in a part of China that is up near Russia, the
Chinese girls here are pale/white and even have freckles, and I know from my Chinese friends, these women stand out,
even in China! just an analogy...
Im also attracted to half castes as in half say Asian, half white, and most
of my past gf's have been half castes...I like the exotic look.
woofa1
10-22-2006, 07:15 PM
Yes, just an observation from my
experience. Like you said oceanborn everyone has different experiences , based on these you come to some opinion.
jambat
10-22-2006, 08:10 PM
Something I do notice, people who
sit around and talk about why other race, cultures, religions, etc don't date them rarely get dates. What I mean is
if you're having these kinds of feelings you're done already. Women of all races pick up on this. I know plenty of
Asian men who date white or whatever women all the time. But these guys are very aggressive. They don't beat women
or anything but they're very strong in the way the handle themselves, and most of all they just enjoy being around
women and this brings something out of them and the woman is usually receptive.
-Bat
Oceanborn
10-22-2006, 08:28 PM
Everywhere that I go, there are
people who gets laid like mad and there are people who'll give thousands of excuses..
"this will work in
<insert a country you're not in right now> but won't work in <insert a country you're in right now>"
I've
been to Australia and I love that place. Everywhere I go people are friendly and smiling. A friend of mine went to a
burgar king and almost got beaten up by racists.
Curious, I went to the very same burger king to check it
out. Did I encounter any racists? No! Infact, I got VIP threatments.
Woofa1, I've heard people saying
European girls are easier to talk to than American girls..
Really, it's your inside that attracts your
outside. And also what country your character vibes with. If you're an artist and you go Washington, not many women
will vibe with you!
edit: If you're negative, you won't vibe with anybody from any country! (except
Afghanistan)
jeremiahjames
04-06-2008, 11:45 PM
well guys, Sydneys Aussie
chicks r all bisexual with preference for women now anyways...thats here in sydney i should
specify.....
THE CHANGING SOCIAL DYNAMIC OF AUSTRALIAN WOMEN: MY EXPERIENCES GROWING UP N SYDNEY AND THE
SOCIETAL SHIFTS IN RELATION TO THE FEMINIST MOVEMENT AND GENERATION Y - A BRIEF ABSTRACT:
as i grew
up in the 80's, aussie chicks were soo easy going and friendly, a surfer babe, blonde hair, blue eyed, laid-back
image was projected by every hot young thaang from Bondi to Manly....chicks were easy going , hot, tanned, and were
easy to pick up for a few beers at the Local in there flip flops.....no high heels or designer outfits at
11am...this was 1989.
FAST FWD. TO 2008:
australia became mega affluent in the last ten years,
primarily based on a property boom and mining/resource boom:
what my mate, dave says re: aussie chicks:
"this
new generation of aussie girls r spoilt brats, having grown up in a very affluent environment. dare i say it, but
they r all princesses in designer outfits with 5 credit cards. Generation Y, as they r called, r very oprimistic,
bratty, impatient, it is the town of the beautiful people is it not?, the socialites , teh bling bling, the glamour
pusses, snorting there lines of coke in the backseats of there convertibles,"
AND THIS FROM ME MATE MARC ON
GENERATION Y:
...THEY expect everything now, and normally get it. when i finished school, Australia was in a
recession. generation Y can choose there jobs and demand higher salaries. due to HGH in grain fed meat, this new
generation is godamn sexy and beautiful!!! chicks in my day were butt ugly, whats going on here?"
it is very
common here in sydney for 20 yr. olds to drive sports cars and wear designer clothes. the women here, in this
environment of riches , hedonism, vulgarity, vanity and debauchery, r nor preferring there hot female friends over
us poor, wretched , single males....
ive had a million mone hits on europeans and asian girls....aussie chicks?
yup u guessed it! COPS! all that works...too much none and your threatening the sistahood! my last 3 managers have
been hot lesbians! i wore NPA around tehm and it just caused power struggles....most of the men in Sydney just seem
to submit and become gay! :) weell thats waht it seems...lol
koolking1
04-07-2008, 07:12 AM
I highly recommend to
anyone to take a class in Marketing. It's a fun class and one in which you'll learn how to discern what's behind
those magazine and television ads. Whenever a women's magazine runs an article about how to lose weight (when do
they not run those articles, never) advertisers will pay top dollar to have product placement within and next to the
diet article, those women who read the diet articles are their best customers. If you go back about 25 years and on
up to the present you can see women's fashion magazine's adverts have been promoting bisexuality or lesbianism
very blatantly. When you see two or three models in an ad, take a close look at how they are postured and you'll
see what I mean, adoring looks to each other, arms around each other, one casually caressing the other, one being
the dominant and the other the submissive. Personnaly, and I know this sounds sexist, I think women are much more
susceptible to advertising than men are. I think that by knowing how the advertisers operate prepares one to shut
it out and not be tempted.
So, yes, there are a lot more bisexual women these days. I don't think
they've given up on men, they just like to have it both ways.
Mtnjim
04-07-2008, 10:23 AM
So, yes,
there are a lot more bisexual women these days. I don't think they've given up on men, they just like to have it
both ways.
And double the chance for a date on Saturday night.:kiss:
Gmoney
04-07-2008, 11:21 AM
I've always thought that 90% of
the women out there have homosexual tendencies, and from conversations with several straight hot women, that tends
to be true from their observations as well.
koolking1
04-07-2008, 11:26 AM
well, I can tell you from
my perspective as a swinger, 90% of the women there are bi to some extent, it ranges from letting another woman lick
her without having to reciprocate to what my girlfriend has evolved into: she's not tired of swinging but she has
become tired of all the other men she would have to be around, preferring only the women. So, we're not nearly as
active as we used to be cause the swinger "credo" is that if you are a women, you have to be involved with both the
man and woman of the other couple.
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