View Full Version : Do corpulins only work in conjunction with women?
dunbar
10-08-2006, 09:06 PM
I asked this question here to jvkohl and he told me to post it on the forum.Actually I think I do have
a point. :cool:
Hi!
You wrote that the formula which Jutte used in her tests which created a raise in
Testosterone is the same formula which is used in SOE/w, right?
Does this mean I should give SOE/w a try? I think
trying EW is really not a good idea. I don't want my house to smell his a fish factory. I was thinking about trying
PCC. But now you mentioned SOE/w. What would you try if you were me? Or do you think that this whole idea of
smelling corpulins to see what happens is senseless?
But if it works on a woman then why shouldn't it work
without a woman? I cannot imagine that a woman is needed in order to make it work. For example when I smell good
food then it also works without me seeing the food.
maxo-texas
10-08-2006, 10:58 PM
copulins
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No.
They work independent of being on a female.
However, I saw a post here that theorized
it may be copulins + nol that sets you off while copulins alone won't.
In my experience, copulins alone affect
me after about 2 hours without any female present.
CrystalMoon
10-09-2006, 04:06 AM
But if it works
on a woman then why shouldn't it work without a woman? I cannot imagine that a woman is needed in order to make it
work. For example when I smell good food then it also works without me seeing the food.
Okay, that up
there? That is what you are failing to get. We WOMEN naturally produce copulins, men do not - so of COURSE us
wearing the product increases its efficacy when we are attracting men!
I honestly have no idea of the thinking
behind your mind-set here, but it's your money, so no-one can tell you what to do with it.
Copulins work when
women wear them - period - and trust me, I am a total cynic and very sceptical, so for me to KNOW this
categorically, and state it here, is quite something.
I know there are men who report hits with women when they
wear copulin-based products, but they are few and far between. Compare that then to the myriad posts from women who
ALWAYS get a reaction when they use copulin-based products, once they have tweaked their product usage to suit their
own chemistry - and you will start to get the picture..I hope.
Like I said, it's ultimately your decision and
your hard-earned money, so no-one can make your mind up for you.
Ail :-)
dunbar
10-09-2006, 11:48 AM
@ Ail
Since you have EW do you
not know a man who could test it? Simply smelling on the bottle and then waiting what happens? You could see it as a
scientific experiment. :)
CrystalMoon
10-09-2006, 12:41 PM
Using my "toys" is the one
secret I have, so no, I will not be asking any man - and particularly not "THE Man" to try that, but there are
umpteen posts here on the forums already by guys who have done just what you are asking, so just do a wee search for
"EW" and you will get all the info you need.
Ail :-)
Gegogi
10-09-2006, 02:43 PM
Dunbar has been dancing around
this topic a lot lately. I think he's hoping to read the answer he wants, and is mainly getting the opposite. I'll
say this, when I sniff a bottle of EW I'm underwhelmed by my response. It's a fricken yawn. When I sniff the
southern regions of an attractive women I lose the ability to think rationally and make like the Rock of
Gibraltar.
Nevertheless, it's possible some men are different. Some guys get excited about a "pocket pussy"
whereas most of us need the dad burn thang attached to a woman to get it up.
i think
the stuff has potential independantly of a woman present in conjunction with visualization. i mean before bed
possibly.... no t.v. ..... and i would NOT expect the kind of result you would get with a woman wearing it, but
something on a much lesser scale.
my theory is that these pheromones work on a human body better because the
pheromone output of the individual is still present sending the message subconciously to the brain of the perciever
about that person-
genetics, character,ect.
IE your going to want what you want in a woman for reproduction/other
purposes biologically, and mentally if you are looking for that alpha signiture there is that you would be
percieving too, but none of this has anything to do with copulins from what i understand.
SO......
copulins by
itself may have an effect in conjunction with visualization on a smaller scale, and then copulins on a female in
your presense sending you all the other signals of the pheromones she is naturally giving off is going to knock your
sox off.
keep in mind this is just my theory and not regurgitation of anything said to me.....
LOVE those :box:
copulins !!!
bronzie
10-09-2006, 03:24 PM
I lose the ability
to think rationally and make like the Rock of Gibraltar.
"pocket pussy"
pocket pussy? haha
sounds funny
rock of gibraltar? always wanted to visit, heard its still under English rule..
jvkohl
10-09-2006, 05:58 PM
I appreciate the comments by the
ladies who are using pheromone-enhancement to do what copulins actually do; they enhance their natural scent
signature. Appropriate enhancement would theoretically help the wearer convey a scent that is typically associated
with a reproductively fit, ovulatory phase, female from age 17-24. What we have seen in reports from the ladies
attests to applicability of this theory to women.
There is also data, from Astrid Jutte, and from reports of
testosterone increase/decrease in men, dependent on their partner's hormone status, that strongly suggest copulins
could increase/decrease testosterone in the presence/absence of a partner, or potential mate. This data is what
links visual representations either of food, or of women to brain processes that occur in the hypothalamus/ limbic
system, and link chemicals in food, or the natural body chemistry of women to desire either for food or for
sex--dependent on the stimulus.
Spices (i.e., chemicals) used to enhance food appeal are somewhat analagous
to copulins (i.e., chemicals) used to enhance sex appeal. Smelling the spice in the absence of the food, or smelling
the copulins in the absence of a fertile female should have analagous effects on hormones associated with desire and
satiety. In the absence of the food or available woman, desire alone may not always be sufficiently arousing be
reflected in the appetite either for food or for sexual gratification. Something that looks good or smells good may
not be enough. But if it looks good and smells good, chances are most people (in this case men) will either become
interested enough to do something about it--or perhaps merely dream or fantasize about it after-the-fact.
Odors and pheromones are equally effective at conditioning our visual response cycle to chemical appeal.
Conscious processing of odors makes us aware of their conditioned effects on the hypothalamus/limbic system when it
comes to food choice. Unconscious processing of pheromones leaves most of us unaware of our conditioned response to
natural body odor. But the mechanisms are the same.
Dunbar wrote: "I cannot imagine that a woman is needed in
order to make it work. For example when I smell good food then it also works without me seeing the
food."
Ultimately, I think this discussion may benefit from insight into what is meant by "works." Copulins
can work by increasing testosterone, whether or not a woman is in the picture; testosterone associated desire may
increase. They can also work by enhancing the natural scent of a woman who is part of the
picture.
JVK
I appreciate the
comments by the ladies who are using pheromone-enhancement to do what copulins actually do; they enhance their
natural scent signature. Appropriate enhancement would theoretically help the wearer convey a scent that is
typically associated with a reproductively fit, ovulatory phase, female from age 17-24. What we have seen in reports
from the ladies attests to applicability of this theory to women.
There is also data, from Astrid Jutte, and
from reports of testosterone increase/decrease in men, dependent on their partner's hormone status, that strongly
suggest copulins could increase/decrease testosterone in the presence/absence of a partner, or potential mate. This
data is what links visual representations either of food, or of women to brain processes that occur in the
hypothalamus/ limbic system, and link chemicals in food, or the natural body chemistry of women to desire either for
food or for sex--dependent on the stimulus.
Spices (i.e., chemicals) used to enhance food appeal are somewhat
analagous to copulins (i.e., chemicals) used to enhance sex appeal. Smelling the spice in the absence of the food,
or smelling the copulins in the absence of a fertile female should have analagous effects on hormones associated
with desire and satiety. In the absence of the food or available woman, desire alone may not always be sufficiently
arousing be reflected in the appetite either for food or for sexual gratification. Something that looks good or
smells good may not be enough. But if it looks good and smells good, chances are most people (in this case men) will
either become interested enough to do something about it--or perhaps merely dream or fantasize about it
after-the-fact.
Odors and pheromones are equally effective at conditioning our visual response cycle to
chemical appeal. Conscious processing of odors makes us aware of their conditioned effects on the
hypothalamus/limbic system when it comes to food choice. Unconscious processing of pheromones leaves most of us
unaware of our conditioned response to natural body odor. But the mechanisms are the same.
Dunbar wrote: "I
cannot imagine that a woman is needed in order to make it work. For example when I smell good food then it also
works without me seeing the food."
Ultimately, I think this discussion may benefit from insight into what is
meant by "works." Copulins can work by increasing testosterone, whether or not a woman is in the picture;
testosterone associated desire may increase. They can also work by enhancing the natural scent of a woman who is
part of the picture.
JVK
(http://)
is it possible
then that this would imply that copulins in a man's pheromone formula, in conjunction with 'rone and 'none would
convey a more prominant alpha signiture, based on the effects this mixture has on him, and how he outwardly
behaves?
i wear formulas first and foremost to affect myself, then i adore the effects on everyone else.... i can
imagine there might be pros to men adding minute amounts, unless the effects are fleeting and nothing that can be
maintained for too long.
i have read alot of info on copulins, but that response really summed up everything i was
trying to digest individually.
thank you.
dunbar
10-10-2006, 08:51 PM
Ultimately, I
think this discussion may benefit from insight into what is meant by "works." Copulins can work by increasing
testosterone, whether or not a woman is in the picture; testosterone associated desire may increase. They can also
work by enhancing the natural scent of a woman who is part of the picture.
Hi!
I simply mean a clear
response to the corpulins. If they work and indeed increase testosterone in men then I guess the man also shouldn't
notice something. If you're not somehow turned on by it then I also can't imagine that it would affect the
testosterone production.
Dunbar has been dancing around this topic a lot lately. I think he's
hoping to read the answer he wants, and is mainly getting the opposite. I'll say this, when I sniff a bottle of EW
I'm underwhelmed by my response. It's a fricken yawn. When I sniff the southern regions of an attractive women I
lose the ability to think rationally and make like the Rock of Gibraltar.
LOL.
But I cannot really
imagine that the look of a woman correlates with their smell. Why shouldn't there also be totally ugly women which
still "smell" good down there? :think:
maxo-texas
10-10-2006, 10:22 PM
Actually the comment about
spice attracts my interest.
Straight garlic, pepper, or savory doesn't smell that enticing.
But put them on
a cooking piece of chicken or meat and they make the meat smell better.
Raised teste levels does not necessarily
mean you get horny all the time. In men the nerves in the penis are present but turned off until the right mental
signal arrives. And those nerves become more or less sensative based on further mental insult- a quick insult or
something unexpected can turn them off in a hurry.
Even with low testosterone, the right mental signals can turn
things on-it's just more difficult.
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