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maxo-texas
09-22-2006, 08:14 AM
I smell this with the
bottle tightly closed.
When I opened the package it smelled like EW.
Now my phermone bag smells like EW.
No
leaks. The container is clean. It has to be outgassing through the container somehow.
For now I've put the
bottle in a ziplock bag.
I smell this with
the bottle tightly closed.
When I opened the package it smelled like EW.
Now my phermone bag smells like EW.
No leaks. The container is clean. It has to be outgassing through the container somehow.
For now I've put the
bottle in a ziplock bag.
a ziplock believe it or not really does the trick. i have heard that using a
fabric softener sheet in the bag helps too.
oddly enough, the smell doesnt bother me in the least, and it doesnt
permeate the 'mones i use that are in the same container,either. its seems to be just an airborn thing.:thumbsup:
maxo-texas
09-22-2006, 08:41 AM
Wow- if your new pic is
really you, then you look like your old avatar more than most probably do.
The smell is funky to me that's for
sure!
Wow- if your new
pic is really you, then you look like your old avatar more than most probably do.
The smell is funky to me
that's for sure!
heh, thats me trying not to look like my old avatar. i wear my hair down and forget it!
:LOL:
ive noticed the smell of EW gets different over time. it was alot funkier to me when i first got it, it
smells more fruity to me now.
how are you using it????
adding it to a scent for your gal?
good call! :thumbsup:
because its fruity,i add it to DK Delicious, a granny smith apple perfume. it rocks as a cover :cheers:
maxo-texas
09-22-2006, 09:05 AM
You are right. It is kinda
fruity.
I've done a couple self-experiments to see the effects without the girl. There were very noticable
effects on me on me once and not so much the other time. I tried a dab with a new girl and noticed the same trancy
hyperventilating effect that I got from LT.
I see my main girl (whot has reacted so well to hormones on me) this
weekend.
You are right. It
is kinda fruity.
I've done a couple self-experiments to see the effects without the girl. There were very
noticable effects on me on me once and not so much the other time. I tried a dab with a new girl and noticed the
same trancy hyperventilating effect that I got from LT.
I see my main girl (whot has reacted so well to hormones
on me) this weekend.
have you done research on how women react around the scent of other women?
i know men
who use the stuff to raise their own testosterone, but dont wear it. can you get HER to wear it, :twisted: ?
i
freakin LOVE the stuff, but i cant wear it everyday, when i talk i get taken the wrong way ( its hot today! -
what??!!!):blink:
maxo-texas
09-22-2006, 09:37 AM
I did a little reading around
here and the only posts I saw said:
* EW seems to attact bi women when guys wear it.
* EW raises teste levels in
guys.
* EW drives guys crazy (which may just be the teste but it may alter mood on top of raising teste)
* EW
smells a bit funky for 10 mins and needs cover.
I know EW is potent- a 1/8" spot on the lip, a 1/2" spot on the
chest, and a 1/2" long line on the wrist noticably raised my teste levels in two hours.
My main girl is happy
enough with me that she will do anything that makes me happy. I was going to suggest she try a couple small lines
down below to see how it effects me.
If I were going to mix it with the apple perfume what ratio would you
suggest?
bronzie
09-22-2006, 10:01 AM
EW = Essence of a Woman?
if this is the product your refering too, it contains "copulins".
In my experience, copulins does not
attract Bi women, in fact it repels them, I have worn PI/W which contains copulins, and have had a bi woman, say,
"what stinks", Bi women respond very well too Androstenone, I have alot of experience here, (especially in my early
stages of using pheromones) and using Androstenone around Bi fems gets good results, if that is what your looking
for.
This may sound contradictory, if you think of the nature of Bi women and thier attraction and behaviour
to thier own sex and one assumes they are attracted too copulins as well. But, in my experience straight
Androstenone is what did the job.
maxo-texas
09-22-2006, 10:40 AM
I wish my memory were more
precise.
I'm an 80% kind of person.
I may have very well confused that. My memory kludges things together- I
forget just about everything more than 24 months ago. Only highlights remain.
Thanks for the correction
Bronzie.
The things I'm ultimately looking for, I don't think phermones will help. That's going to require me
being more open about who I am earlier (which I've started doing over the last couple years).
I used to come
across as "shy, vanilla, conservative, mainstream, big, nice." Now I present strongly, "flirty, NOT vanilla, NOT
conservative, NOT mainstream, big, nice". I've covered the shyness so long that the flirty stuff feels natural
now.
The mones have helped in other areas. For one lady, we have reached a new plateau- after 8 years. For
another, we are much more open about who we really are. And there are two others tho one will leave town next year.
All of us are happier since I started using SOE and -none. I can see the difference when I'm with them and I
get spooky comments from them when we are apart.
This stuff is magic in a bottle.
CrystalMoon
09-22-2006, 11:12 AM
No, MaxoTexas,
you did NOT make any error.
Bronzie is totally incorrect in this instance.
He is comparing PI/W which contains
a MINUTE amount of copulins, with a 100% copulin concentrate product (EW) and yes, you will find that almost all the
hits men have had when wearing it, have been with bi-women.
EW was formulated for WOMEN to wear, to attract men,
which is why Lor said you need to get your lady to wear it to seduce you - just as I told you in your previous
thread.
If it were myself, Lor, Dolly and The Countess adding it to a perfume, we would probably tip the entire
7.5 ml bottle into a 50ml perfume, BUT! We have been using it for a long time, and as as we previously explained to
you, EW is NOT for beginners, so you would be safe adding NO MORE THAN 5 drops to the perfume for your lady, until
SHE gets a handle on the best way to use it with you.
You cannot do her experimenting for her on this one. Cops
are NOT like -none, or-nol, they are a different animal entirely, and she will be the one who decides the level that
works best for her.
Who knows? Maybe she will become like one of us, and wear it straight up, then cover with a
delicious perfume ten minutes later - or she may prefer to play it safe, as this really does give very, VERY intense
and animalistic results when worn by a WOMAN!
Referring to my comment in your other thread, which you seemed not
to understand: Lighting the touch-paper, means exactly that.
Say for example, you were setting off a firework.
You know that bit at the end that you light? That is called the touch-paper.
So..light the touch-paper stand WELL
back, and as we said to you before, prepare to have your world rocked - totally.
There are tons and tons of
threads giving you help about EW usage in the women's forum, so just do a search for EW, and as said to you before,
you will find all you require.
Good luck with it, and do tell us all.
Lor and I LOVE to hear the juicy details
about when a man is first hit by the EW Effect.. ^_^
Ail :-)
Mtnjim
09-22-2006, 11:55 AM
Referring to
my comment in your other thread, which you seemed not to understand: Lighting the touch-paper, means exactly
that.
Say for example, you were setting off a firework. You know that bit at the end that you light? That is
called the touch-paper. :think:
"England and America are two countries divided by a common
language."
George Bernard Shaw (1856–1950)
:blink:
Or in this case Scotland and America. In this country the
"touch-paper" is called a "fuse".
:lovestruc:lovestruc
maxo-texas
09-22-2006, 12:52 PM
So it was more of a
metaphor.
I wasn't sure if you- for example actually put some on incense or paper and then burned it to load the
air.
What would be a good starting quantity to use straight up and where?
I just told her about it and
suggested two light touches on the upper thighs then covered with favorite fruity scent. But I have til tomorrow to
adjust that.
bronzie
09-22-2006, 01:10 PM
No,
MaxoTexas, you did NOT make any error.
Bronzie is totally incorrect in this instance.
He is comparing
PI/W which contains a MINUTE amount of copulins, with a 100% copulin concentrate product (EW) and yes, you will find
that almost all the hits men have had when wearing it, have been with bi-women.
EW was formulated for WOMEN
to wear, to attract men, which is why Lor said you need to get your lady to wear it to seduce you - just as I told
you in your previous thread.
If it were myself, Lor, Dolly and The Countess adding it to a perfume, we would
probably tip the entire 7.5 ml bottle into a 50ml perfume, BUT! We have been using it for a long time, and as as we
previously explained to you, EW is NOT for beginners, so you would be safe adding NO MORE THAN 5 drops to the
perfume for your lady, until SHE gets a handle on the best way to use it with you.
You cannot do her
experimenting for her on this one. Cops are NOT like -none, or-nol, they are a different animal entirely, and she
will be the one who decides the level that works best for her.
Who knows? Maybe she will become like one of
us, and wear it straight up, then cover with a delicious perfume ten minutes later - or she may prefer to play it
safe, as this really does give very, VERY intense and animalistic results when worn by a WOMAN!
Referring to
my comment in your other thread, which you seemed not to understand: Lighting the touch-paper, means exactly
that.
Say for example, you were setting off a firework. You know that bit at the end that you light? That is
called the touch-paper.
So..light the touch-paper stand WELL back, and as we said to you before, prepare to
have your world rocked - totally.
There are tons and tons of threads giving you help about EW usage in the
women's forum, so just do a search for EW, and as said to you before, you will find all you require.
Good
luck with it, and do tell us all.
Lor and I LOVE to hear the juicy details about when a man is first hit by
the EW Effect.. ^_^
Ail :-)
Crystal, I read more about this EW product in the womens forum,
your right, the product description suggests to me that its a very different product to PI/W, seems alot more pure,
however, im just wondering, if .nol and copulin are the only ingredients in PI/W, and that was the product that kept
offending the BI women that I exposed it too, what was the culprint ingrediant that kept them at bay? the .nol or
the copulins? However, because I had exposed them to other .nol products that didnt contain copulins and they didnt
react negatively, and each time I wore PI/W they didnt like it one bit, my assumption was copulins do not agree with
BI women, at least copulins worn on a man, ofcourse!. But again, this EW is a different product.
However, I
have no experience with this EW product to dispute what your saying. Anyway, that said, hooking up with Bi women is
a rather tedious process, and involves alot more than synthetic pheromones.
EW = Essence of a
Woman?
if this is the product your refering too, it contains "copulins".
In my experience, copulins does
not attract Bi women, in fact it repels them, I have worn PI/W which contains copulins, and have had a bi woman,
say, "what stinks", Bi women respond very well too Androstenone, I have alot of experience here, (especially in my
early stages of using pheromones) and using Androstenone around Bi fems gets good results, if that is what your
looking for.
This may sound contradictory, if you think of the nature of Bi women and thier attraction and
behaviour to thier own sex and one assumes they are attracted too copulins as well. But, in my experience straight
Androstenone is what did the job.
ha well, i gots to tell ya, i adore EW, i i like its smell when 20
minutes have passed, and i cannot stand anything but the tiniest amounts of 'none.
me and 'none dont get
along.
i think i can safely state EW is perfect for attracting Bi women in minute quantities.
me and my gal pals
disagree, bronzie.
im sorry.
but there will always be contradictions to the rule, for everything in the store i
think.:kiss:
I did a little
reading around here and the only posts I saw said:
* EW seems to attact bi women when guys wear it.
* EW raises
teste levels in guys.
* EW drives guys crazy (which may just be the teste but it may alter mood on top of raising
teste)
* EW smells a bit funky for 10 mins and needs cover.
I know EW is potent- a 1/8" spot on the lip, a 1/2"
spot on the chest, and a 1/2" long line on the wrist noticably raised my teste levels in two hours.
My main girl
is happy enough with me that she will do anything that makes me happy. I was going to suggest she try a couple small
lines down below to see how it effects me.
If I were going to mix it with the apple perfume what ratio would you
suggest?
well, i use EW neat and wait a few minutes, then i put a spray or two of apple. its so freakin
yummy.
i have never literally put the two together in a seperate container.
they ought to give you a sample at the
store, see if your gal pal likes it.
i bet you COULD do that though, let me know if you do! :thumbsup:
bronzie
09-22-2006, 02:07 PM
I agree with you, there are so
many factors at play when dealing with these products, the mind boggles on how they work and with whom. That is why,
personally, I dont rely on .mones, I dont take them as serious as my posts seem to suggest. A woman is more
responsive to a good poem, than any pheromone.
Good luck with it, and do
tell us all.
Lor and I LOVE to hear the juicy details about when a man is first hit by the EW Effect.. ^_^
Ail
:-)
no lie! i cannot wait to hear.....
every woman should own it,use it as a secret weapon, and
every man should thank them. its a win- win situation lol.
maxo-texas
09-22-2006, 02:41 PM
I don't know
Bronzie.
I'm a massive sceptic about everything and my experience with mones have been so dramatic it's almost
like magic.
I can clearly feel them affecting me.
Then the effects on the ladies in my life have been pretty
clear too. I mean two of them have taken to the same habit of unbottoning the top button of my shirt and just
dazedly smelling me. They think it's the sandlewood. I've used sandlewood for years without that
reaction.
There are a lot of factors- and i think a big factor is what happens to the product between creation at
the factory and getting to your safe, climate controlled environment.
There is one muddying factor and thats
the david deangelo type stuff was also added in the last year. And to be honest, they eat that up too whether I'm
using phermones or not so I will grant you that I don't have a scientific environment especially with my new
clubbing/concert lady. I brought the thunder on her from day one and she ate it up. Of course I was also bringing
the SOE, A4.2, Chik and LT. But when someone says you are a confident sob and then just melts into a puddle for me,
it's stunning. It's never been this easy before. So easy that I have to make a clear mental decision that any
more is going to get me into trouble and hold off the others expressing interest.
But you could be right. It
could just be some bizarre lucky "wet" period.
bronzie
09-22-2006, 03:49 PM
There
is one muddying factor and thats the david deangelo type stuff was also added in the last year. And to be honest,
they eat that up too whether I'm using phermones or not so I will grant you that I don't have a scientific
environment especially with my new clubbing/concert lady.
Dont want to get off the topic, but if
your into that deangelo guy, try reading, art of seduction, 48 laws of power, and the art of war, all written by
author, Robert Greene, he makes deangelo look very amateur, incidently, Greenes books, are not for the faint of
heart, he is very hard hitting, I found him very hard to digest at first and a little shocking, he considers all
people as victims.
I once bought PCC, this is a copulin formula right? what is the difference between PCC and
EW?, anyone know? PCC had a very nice melon scent as I remember, I gave it to my gf at the time as a gift (rather
foolish gift since she is now my ex, probably because of it, who knows....)
maxo-texas
09-22-2006, 05:15 PM
Not into him in
particular.
Just have seen that teasing, kidding, flirtin with a woman is effective while treating them the way
songs and movies show they like tends to send them running away or yawning.
I will check out Greene too. Reality
isn't always pretty but it is reality.
Sherid
09-22-2006, 05:40 PM
Bronzie ... Whats your feedback
for PI/W if as a man you wear it? Whats the response like ... How do people react .. both the MEN and FEMALE ...
EW = Essence of a Woman?
if this is the product your refering too, it contains
"copulins".
In my experience, copulins does not attract Bi women, in fact it repels them, I have worn PI/W which
contains copulins, and have had a bi woman, say, "what stinks", Bi women respond very well too Androstenone, I have
alot of experience here, (especially in my early stages of using pheromones) and using Androstenone around Bi fems
gets good results, if that is what your looking for.
This may sound contradictory, if you think of the nature of
Bi women and thier attraction and behaviour to thier own sex and one assumes they are attracted too copulins as
well. But, in my experience straight Androstenone is what did the job.
bronzie
09-22-2006, 06:14 PM
Bronzie ... Whats
your feedback for PI/W if as a man you wear it? Whats the response like ... How do people react .. both the MEN and
FEMALE ...
It did nothing for me, apart from what I said above, although PI/M is very
good.
Back in the early days of this forum, im talking 4-5 years ago at least and when thier werent many
products to choose from and experiment with, PI/W, was very much the talk of the town, people used it constantly, so
I purchased it, but to no avail...at least for me.
first time i ever used it, i was a
du-mass and put it on while driving (this stuff is subtle ya know,LOL!) and i almost had to pull over-
i was high
as a kite with the 'nol and totally spaced out. that was 2 full drops. after 30 minutes i was totally back to
normal and feeling gooood.
maxo-texas
09-23-2006, 04:39 PM
Well unfortunately we didn't
get to use it until late in the day and I didn't notice anything special this time. She did experiment with some
scents to use with it in the future.
bronzie
09-23-2006, 06:21 PM
just came across a rather
strange article, well not really an article as its a few paragraphs long with minimum of info, but it does suggest
that fem bi/lesbians in fact are attracted to fem pheromones...(they dont state the .mones and dont go into detail)
in line with what most of you have been saying here.
the article is the 7th one down on the
scroll...
http://www.slate.com/id/2141239/
maxo-texas
09-25-2006, 01:11 PM
Okay...
So we've opened up
so much with each other lately that some old emotional issues on my part (buried like oh-- 22 years ago?) have burst
out.
I have had a lot of strong emotions hitting me upside the head suddenly.
I'm going to have to deal with them
before I can move forward.
There are challenges associated with moving to new levels of intimacy.
jambat
09-26-2006, 10:20 PM
heh, thats me trying
not to look like my old avatar. i wear my hair down and forget it! :LOL:
Now I'm curious. I hope you
don't think I'm out of line but if that's really you in that photo why does a cutie like yourself need pheros? Is
it to get the initial attention, then move in. That's normally how I would play it even though I normally use them
more in business. So is it just to get the edge on the competition? What's the deal?
-The Bat
Master of
Men
maxo-texas
09-27-2006, 05:26 PM
The trivial amount leaking
through the bottle *in* the ziplog bag sitting on my bedside table is definately messing with me at night.
maxo-texas
09-30-2006, 08:49 PM
two weeks in this continues
to be a mixed bag. the bottle sitting in a ziplok bag in my room have woken me up out very hard a lot.
I've
only had one good hookup where I felt they were having much effect. The problem is that since i don't tell them
that I'm using mones, it's difficult to get them in place early enough.
EW seems to take about 2 to 3 hours
before it has an effect on me. It does not have an immediate effect.
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