fem xcite wipes

[bronzie]

I will be brief, For

the third time, I have used these wipes around girls that are 21 and under and have "hits" for the third time. The

girls go chatty and crazy and giggle like mad. Although the girls in this age group are not what im after, I aim for

25+, I must say for you guys that want to attract the young girls dont go past these wipes. The wipes are supposedly

made for women and do have a bubble gum type scent, but I dont think the girls even notice that your wearing a fem

scent. This product works very well for men that want to attract the youngies, I can assure you.

[CATPYCO]

Hey bronzie...listen.. Can't I

just buy a bottle of Pheromol Factor and call it a day?

Same thing right?

[bronzie]

Go for it, same maker

apparently, but not same product or effect.

[Spiderweb]

bronzie,
1. how do the excite

wipes effect women that are older ? just curious...you saying they attract girls say 18-21? what effect have you

noticed on women say age 25? or 30? just curious?

2. a314- i know you dont like the webstie for them, but what

did the product do for you personally?

3. bronzie, what product have you noticed that works the best so far?



thanks,
Spider

[The Real FTR]

I wish there were some way

to know what's in them. "Dr. D's" mix for women doesn't tell me much.

[GREEN OVNI]

Where do they sell these

wipes at?

I did not see them on LS. Unless i'm on the wrong page.

[woofa1]

YES, bronzie

your evaluation and analysis of the excite wipes is spot on, and or very similiar to mine.

Very good for younger

females, they seem to get very giggly and chatty.

Great product for you younger men wanting to attract the

younger girls 18 -25. I have tried pheromal factor although the product is okay. IT does not compare to the excite

wipes, the men variety. That was the best nol product i have ever used. HITS WERE CONSISTENT, AND THERE WAS MANY OF

THEM.

GREAT product, for opening up people communication etc. OH, well DR, dodd does it again?

[live4themusic]

woofa, what's the men's

variety of excite wipes you refer to? L-S only carries women's...

[bronzie]

HITS WERE

CONSISTENT, AND THERE WAS MANY OF THEM.


Great Post Woofa. I agree with you whole heartedly.

Xcite Wipes are by a mile the best pheromone product I have owned, and I have pretty much owned and used all the

products available on LS. The older members will remember LS sold the men’s Xcite wipes some years ago. I too have

used pheromal factor, and like you state, it is an okay product, but in no way matches the punch that Xcite Wipes

pull.

Spiderweb, a314 smells great, it has a very fine Neroli scent that is warm and spicy. However,

unfortunately that is as far as I can go to say anything positive about this product. I have used this for one month

straight under what I deem controlled conditions and I have not seen anything positive come out of this product, in

fact I have seen nothing come out of this product. I see no so called "James Bond effect" as stated on their rather

grandeur marketing web page, I believe it was a wasted purchase, and at 70 bucks a pop, it is a rather expensive

bottle of Neroli scent.

FTR, I bet if we knew what is in those wipes, pheromone manufacturers the world over

would emulate them. My guess is they are a guarded secret by Dr D.

GREEN OVNI & live4themusic, the men’s

variety of these wipes are extremely rare to come by, as the product has ceased in production, I own a few, just by

sheer luck, and they are worth their weight in gold. LS sell the fem wipes, but my guess is because the product has

ceased in manufacture, they also are an “endangered species of pheromones” that will no longer be available.

[AznPheroNoob]

Would there be the same

effect if a guy used the xcite wipes for women instead of the men version?


Great Post Woofa. I

agree with you whole heartedly. Xcite Wipes are by a mile the best pheromone product I have owned, and I have pretty

much owned and used all the products available on LS. The older members will remember LS sold the menÕs Xcite wipes

some years ago. I too have used pheromal factor, and like you state, it is an okay product, but in no way matches

the punch that Xcite Wipes pull.

Spiderweb, a314 smells great, it has a very fine Neroli scent that is warm

and spicy. However, unfortunately that is as far as I can go to say anything positive about this product. I have

used this for one month straight under what I deem controlled conditions and I have not seen anything positive come

out of this product, in fact I have seen nothing come out of this product. I see no so called "James Bond effect" as

stated on their rather grandeur marketing web page, I believe it was a wasted purchase, and at 70 bucks a pop, it is

a rather expensive bottle of Neroli scent.

FTR, I bet if we knew what is in those wipes, pheromone

manufacturers the world over would emulate them. My guess is they are a guarded secret by Dr D.

GREEN OVNI &

live4themusic, the menÕs variety of these wipes are extremely rare to come by, as the product has ceased in

production, I own a few, just by sheer luck, and they are worth their weight in gold. LS sell the fem wipes, but my

guess is because the product has ceased in manufacture, they also are an Òendangered species of pheromonesÓ that

will no longer be available.

[bronzie]

AznPheroNoob, Yes. I believe so.

In my experience this has been the case, I dont see any difference in effect, they work equally well, on me. The

only difference is the scent, fem version is floral, male is somewhat sandlewood.

[woofa1]

YES, as you observed bronzie LS

did use to sell them a while back. But production has ceased? But as a pure product, and for the effect it had.

Speaking as close as possible from and subjective and observational point of view? It was very good.

From the

female perspective, it made them laugh and be very chatty. So if you are good at kino, it supplements this product

very well. But i assume it is all nol? Works well, adding a bit of spice lets say PI and or NPA.

Find what

works for you in reference to npa and or pi and gor for it?

Bronzie you say the female excite wipes, have had

the same efect on you as the male male version? Yeah

[woofa1]

HEY, bronzie so i would

say a314 didnt work for you. I have heard mixed reports about this product. Some good ,some not very good.

IN

summation, what would you say if you were to rate it out of ten?

[bronzie]

HEY, bronzie so i

would say a314 didnt work for you. I have heard mixed reports about this product. Some good ,some not very good.



IN summation, what would you say if you were to rate it out of ten?

Woofa, I agree, use kino

and some basic seduction techniques with xcite wipes and your on a winning streak with the ladies (just beware of

the after effects), if you are comfortable with using androstenone, in conjunction with the wipes, go for it, under

the right circumstances and with the right female, this is a killer combination. I am not sure what are in the wipes

because nothing is stated on the product, but my guess is .nol, reason I say this is because the effects are very

much in line with what .nol creates, girls becoming very chatty and open, and alot of laughter at the most trivial

of things. Also, most Dr D's research ( the creator of the wipes ) was .nol based, he actually invented synthetic

.nol in the 70s.

With regards to a314, well, as I stated above, the product has not lived up to my

expectation, I am not in a position to rate it, because it has not done anything for me. I could give it zero out of

ten, however, because I have more then half a bottle left, I will let the bottle finish and than make a conclusion

and report the results in the future in the forum. However, the scent is fantastic, if anyone is looking for a very

fine Neroli - Nutmeg scent, you really cant go past this product, what it lacks in pheromone effect, it makes up in

the scent. I will also try this product in combination with other products, something until now, I have not done. On

the promotional web site, it states that this product increases the effectiveness of other pheromones, well, this is

my next experiment.

[bronzie]

YES, as you

observed bronzie LS did use to sell them a while back. But production has ceased?

Bronzie you say the

female excite wipes, have had the same efect on you as the male male version? Yeah

Yes Woofa,

production of the original Xcite wipes manufactured by Kiotech have ceased. However, Xcite wipes, as a brand name of

pheromone still exist, but manufactured by another company, and my guess is they didnt keep the original formula,

the wipes have a totally different scent (actually offensive to the nose) and do not create the same effect that the

original wipes created. The packaging is also slightly different, kiotech is not stated on the wipes and they are

somewhat elongated in appearence. This product has no relation to the original wipes. However, its not all bad news,

if you want to find the original Xcite wipe formula in liquid form, this is possible.

[Whitehall]

Makes sense but how would they

differ from pure 'nol? For that matter, from SOE?

I find these very useful but for a different reason.

With my special female friends, who are typically 40+, we use them in the clutches. I'll wipe one on her breasts,

belly and inner thighs.

The extra mones create a more erotic and intoxicating feeling in both of us. More

fun!

[bronzie]

Whitehall, I once read that Xite

wipes have many pheromones, over 20, and different versions of .nol, look at the guy who invented them? Read his Bio

- Cv. his experience in the field of pheromones and bio chemistry blows you away.

[bronzie]

His CV is readily viewed on the

net via a simple search and is accessible to the public, I didn’t require permission to reproduce it here as there

is no legal obligation on his web page asking me not too or asking for permission to do so, and since love- scent

sell his products, I don’t think im out of line with the forum rules,

However, it’s up to the moderators to

decide if it’s appropriate to keep up or not.

George Dodd - Brief Informal CV

George Dodd is one of

the best-known scientists working on the sense of smell. But he is much more than just a scientist. Since he was a

child in Ireland and discovered that he could detect all kinds of smells long before other people could, smells and

smelling have been the passion of his life. Whilst he was still at the High School Dublin in the 1950’s, he began

training as a perfumer. During the course of his study for a chemistry degree at Trinity College Dublin, in the

early 1960’s, he continued this training in perfumery and also undertook research work on the sense of smell,

including an early interest in electronic noses. His thesis project was concerned with the chemistry of essential

oils. On graduation, he was offered positions in the international perfumery industry but elected to take a course

which offered greater challenges.

In 1965 he worked in Oxford as a technician for the pioneering biochemist

Hans Krebs. Later that year he began research in molecular enzymology at Oxford under the direction of George Radda

and this led to a D.Phil. in 1968. He then joined the Molecular Biophysics Unit in Unilever plc under the direction

of Dennis Chapman. During the following three years Dodd and colleagues produced the first paper on artificial nose

technology as well as work on biological membranes relevant to odour sensing mechanisms. He was also involved with

many product programmes across a wide variety of areas – foods, drinks, cosmetics, detergents, perfumes, flavours, -

which had in common an interest in the sense of smell.

Dodd joined the University of Warwick in 1971 as a

lecturer in biochemistry in the department of chemistry. He also formed in 1971 the Warwick Olfaction Group at the

University, and he remained as its director until he left the University in 1994. During this period, this

multidisciplinary group had an exemplary record of fund-raising and it was the only smell research group in the UK.

As shown in the accompanying document, Dodd and colleagues opened-up new areas of olfactory science during this

period and are recognized as pioneers in these major research themes.

During this academic phase, Dodd

continued his industrial interests and was one of the first academics to form a company on a Science Park.

Osmotherapy ltd, a pioneer of scientific aromatherapy, started at the Warwick Science Park in 1988. It is now part

of Kiotech Int plc. He also ran a successful scientific consultancy company, Scientific & Technical Consultants Ltd,

with a colleague, Dr. H. Jenkins. Dodd was also a consultant to several multinational companies and organizations

including the MOD; Unilever, and other companies with an interest in the sense of smell. Dodd was instrumental in

creating several TV and radio programmes concerned with the sense of smell.

Also during his academic period

Dodd maintained his interest in perfumery, had a unique collection of odorants in his laboratory, and worked as a

professional perfumer and smell consultant. He organized possibly the first series of public courses on perfumery,

ever, as part of the University’s extramural activities. In 1978 he opened a perfume studio in Stratford-upon-Avon

and started a unique business in which he created individual perfumes for clients. Having established the technical

and commercial success of this business, he had to put the business ‘on ice’ because of the burgeoning demands of

his research group, which by then numbered twenty workers. Later this year, he will resume, in a new format, the

unique business of creating personal perfumes for an international audience.

In 1994 Dodd moved to the

Highlands of Scotland as part of his philosophy of lifestyle. He formed the company Pheromones ltd which is now part

of Kiotech Int plc. He also worked as a senior research fellow in the Highlands Psychiatric Research Group at Craig

Dunain Hospital. He introduced this group to the idea of breath tests and he was instrumental in getting funds for

this group which have led to the first commercial breath test for monitoring schizophrenia. He worked as a

consultant for Lifetime Sciences ltd, and developed human pheromone fragrances for this company. In 1996, he became

a founding director, along with Robert Page and William Campbell, of Kiotech Int plc, the first biotechnology

company in the world specialising in the sense of smell. Later that year Kiotech began trading on ofex. Kiotech now

has 3 successful products and research is advanced on other products.

George Dodd – Key Publications



George Dodd has been a perfumer and also a pioneer in olfactory research for over 30 years. He and his

colleagues have made key discoveries in several areas. For convenience, the 3 key publications in each of the

following areas are cited.

Molecular Mechanisms

Presence of Membrane Particles in Freeze-Etched

Bovine Olfactory Cilia
B P Menco, G H Dodd, M Davy & L H Bannister
Nature 263, 597-599 (1976)
The first

visualization of olfactory receptor proteins

Evidence for the Specific Involvement of cyclic-AMP in the

Olfactory Transduction Mechanism
A Menevse, G H Dodd & T M Poynder
Biochem. Biophys. Res. Comm. 77, 671-677

(1977)
One of the first papers identifying an enzyme basis for olfactory transduction

The Effect of

Concanavalin A on the Rat Electro-Olfactogram. Differential Inhibition of Odorant Response
S G Shirley, E H

Polak, R A Mather & G H Dodd
Biochem. J. 245, 175-184 (1987)
First mapping of a specific olfactory receptor

using chemical modification methods


Electronic Nose Technology

Small Molecule-Lipid Membrane

Interactions and the Puncturing Theory of Olfaction
R J Cherry, G H Dodd & D Chapman
Biochim. Biophys. Acta.

211, 409-416 (1970)
First demonstration of odorant-induced electrical changes in lipid bilayer membranes



Analysis of Discrimination Mechanisms in the Mammalian Olfactory System Using a Model Nose
K Persaud & G

H Dodd
Nature, 299, 352-355 (1982)
First description of an electronic nose system

The Design of an

Artificial Olfactory System
J Gardner, P Bartlett, G H Dodd & H Shurmer
In ‘Chemosensory Information

Processing’ – (ed. D. Schild), Springer-Verlag, pp 131-175 (1990)
First formal description of an industrially

useful electronic nose


Olfactory Psychology

Unconscious Odour Conditioning in Human Subjects


M D Kirk-Smith, C Van Toller & G H Dodd
Biol. Psychology 17, 221-231 (1983)
First experimental

demonstration of this important phenomenon in perfumery and odour science

Skin Conductance and Subjective

Assessments Associated with the Odour of Androstanone
S Van Toller, M Kirk-Smith, N Wood, J Lombard & G H Dodd


Biol. Psychology 16, 85-107 (1983)
First demonstration that anosmic subjects can detect the odour signal –

without being aware of it

‘Ageing and the Sense of Smell’
S Van Toller, G H Dodd & A Billing
Charles

C Thomas, publishers, USA, (1985)
The biggest study, to 1985, of a neglected area of olfaction which is

important in clinical medicine

Psychology of Perfumery

The Biology and Psychology of Perfumery
G

H Dodd & C Van Toller
Perfumer & Flavorist 8, 1-14 (1983)
The first description of perfumery phenomena in

terms of modern molecular biology and psychology


‘Perfumery: The Psychology and Biology of Fragrance’


(eds) S Van Toller & G H Dodd
Chapman & Hall, (1988)
The proceedings of the world’s first international

conference on the Psychology of Perfumery

‘Fragrance: The Psychology and Biology of Perfume’
(eds) S Van

Toller & G H Dodd
Elsevier, (1992)
The proceeding of the second international conference on the Psychology

of Perfumery

[SyraBrian]

Based on this thread, I added

xcite wipes for women to my arsenal and I'm sure glad I did. My new combo is one mini-gel pack of Chikara, a gel

pack of SOE and a wipe of xcite.

I'm a strip club maven, and this combo gave me more "bang for my buck"

than any combo or single product I've tried. I've been recently privately bemoaning the fact that strippers

stopped giving me flirty kisses to my neck and cheek. My new combo brought that back big-time!

I would say

my new combo increased physical affection and aggressiveness by 75-150%!

[bronzie]

Fantastic, Syra, sounds like a

very interesting combo, unfortunatly no one can duplicate your particular combo with other products, we dont know

exactly what is in chikara, and xcite wipes will be a forever unknown, the product is not manufactured anymore, and

my guess is the genius that created this product will never disclose the contents to the public. We all know what is

in SOE though.

I once was told by a major supplier of the original xcite wipes that professional female

strippers in the UK were given and told to apply xcite wipes before they did thier act, so they could have increased

tips and an increase in money flow. I guess in your case, the opposite occured, maybe you should have asked for a

kiss and a tip too!

Great story.

[MOBLEYC57]

Based on this

thread, I added xcite wipes for women to my arsenal and I'm sure glad I did. My new combo is one mini-gel pack of

Chikara, a gel pack of SOE and a wipe of xcite.

I'm a strip club maven, and this combo gave me more "bang for

my buck" than any combo or single product I've tried. I've been recently privately bemoaning the fact that

strippers stopped giving me flirty kisses to my neck and cheek. My new combo brought that back big-time!



I would say my new combo increased physical affection and aggressiveness by 75-150%!

Syra, are

you sure it's the mix and not the tips?

What kind of physical affection and aggresiveness?

Are the

strippers all 21 and under?

Bronzie Baby, are you still using the felines wipes? If so, have you gotten any hits

from those above 21?

Thankyouboth! :thumbsup:

[bronzie]

I use both the fem and male

wipes, hits from 18-30+

However when used alone, xcite wipes cause girls 18+ -25 to go crazy, im not even

going to mention younger girls, since they are not what im looking for, but since the age of consent here in Europe

is 16 in most countries, at least in my country, I dont think im tredding on dangerous ground by mentioning I got a

definite hit from a 17yr old girl, on the wipes.

That said, to attract older girls using the wipes, and the

age range that im after 25+ add some .none!

[MOBLEYC57]

I use both the

fem and male wipes, hits from 18-30+

However when used alone, xcite wipes cause girls 18+ -25 to go crazy, im

not even going to mention younger girls, since they are not what im looking for, but since the age of consent here

in Europe is 16 in most countries, at least in my country, I dont think im tredding on dangerous ground by

mentioning I got a definite hit from a 17yr old girl, on the wipes.

That said, to attract older girls using the

wipes, and the age range that im after 25+ add some .none!

Thanks, Bronzie Baby! :thumbsup:

Where

are you in Europe?

Now, to wrap this up ...

What does the fem wipes smell like ... girlish?

Have you

used/are you using a cover scent, and if so, have you found anything that smells similar to the wipes?

Thank

you, and g'day! :thumbsup:

[woofa1]

Great evaluation of

DR.d, bronzie. He in my view is one of the best by far in this field. His product is by the far the best pheromone

product i have used.

I assume it has nol based, purely bc of the effect it has. For me it beats any nol product

out there. In combo with either pi and or NPA, it has gotten the most hits. And this is how i judge it?

No

disrespect to other nol based products, but i feel his formula whatever it is is a class above anything i have

encountered. Again this is my opinion. Well done bronzie for offering this information on dr.d and his high

credentials in this area.

Well done Bronzie.

[bronzie]

My humble appreciation to your

kind words of gratitude woofa and words of wisdom, yes he is the best in this field, by a mile.

I came across

a rather rough obscure statistical web site on kiotech (the manufacturers of the xcite wipes) look what they had to

say;

A major distributor was contracted to sell 2 million wipes in 1 year! Obviously this numerical

statistical outlay, just goes to show Xcite wipes were a very very serious product at the time. In no way resembles

any other pheromone product that has come before humanity, and maybe may never come

again.............

http://www.digitallook.com/news/rns/398312-107106/KIO-Kiotech_Internationa

l_plc_-_Distribution_Contracts_For_Subsidiary.html (http://www.digitallook.com/news/rns/398312-107106/KIO-Kiotech_International_plc_-_Di

stribution_Contracts_For_Subsidiary.html):angel:

[MOBLEYC57]

Thanks, Bronzie

Baby! :thumbsup:

Where are you in Europe?

What does the fem wipes smell like ... girlish?

Have you

used/are you using a cover scent, and if so, have you found anything that smells similar to the wipes?

Thank

you, and g'day! :thumbsup:

WOOFA1, are you talking about the female wipes, or you talking wipes in

general?

Annnnd, what do you think the wipes smell like ... weak enough to use a cover scent?

Thanksyall!

:thumbsup:

[SyraBrian]

Syra, are you

sure it's the mix and not the tips?

What kind of physical affection and aggresiveness?

Are the

strippers all 21 and under?

Bronzie Baby, are you still using the felines wipes? If so, have you gotten any

hits from those above 21?

Thankyouboth! :thumbsup:

Mobley, I'm comparing it to my typical

baseline experience at strip clubs. I pretty much tip the same regardless of whatever products I'm wearing. The

girls are at least 18 up to 30 or so, most between 18 and 25.

A combo of a mini-gel pack of Chikara (which I

love because it gives a compulsive dabber like me less chance to od), a gel pack of SoE, and an Xcite! wipe for

women resulted in the following:

An increase in kissing to the neck and cheeks from both on-stage dancers

and dancers hanging around the bar.

An increase in touching of my inner thigh and body by dancers asking me

for private dances.

An increase in propositions for private dances.

An increase in multiple

propositions from the same dancers for private dances.

An increase in dancers hanging around me even after

I've turned down their offers of private dances.

An increase in boobing and butt presentations from dancers

hanging out at the bar.

An increase in grinding and lapping activity from the girls doing on-stage

dancing. One, an 18-21 year old energetic little blonde hard body, singled me out completely by lapping me, kissing

my neck and asking me if I wanted a private dance as soon as she got off-stage. She requested this from none of the

other meat rack denizens. Another, a very attractive black women in her late twenties, started giggling as soon as

she got near me and kissed me repeatedly on the cheek in rat-a-tat-tat fashion. She also did this with no other meat

rack denizen.

An increase in propositions from other dancers while I was hanging out enjoying the on-stage

dancer.

And halfway through the one private dance I did, with the blonde early twentyish bombshell who had

been chasing me all night long, the poor girl became completedly unraveled, started giggling uncontrollably and

shouted "You're so cute!" She then proceeded to give me the best private dance I've ever had.

With other

combos, I've received consistently more attention than the other middle-aged men of comparative looks and social

status, but less attention than the young studs and rich dudes.

To use a sports analogy, I was like a good

minor league baseball player or second division soccer player who couldn't quite hang with the big boys. With my

current combo, I feel like I can.

Hope that answers your question, Mobley! And if you want to see the

private dancer I'm talking about, PM me and I'll give you directions on how to see her picture on her club

website.

I'm technologically weak, so I won't be able to link you directly.

[woofa1]

mob man. Yes, i am refering to

the excite wipes mens variety.I have been told from a reliable source that the female variety, has exactly the same

formula, but only the fragrance is different. So if you dont like smelling .Easy just use cover scent.

Dude i

have experimented with many money mones. But the effect these wipes had, were amazing.Again using either NPA/PI to

add that spicy effect, more edgy you know what i mean? Has given me the most consistent hits.

REad bronzies

evaluation on DR.dodd credintials. His no mug?? iNfact a much qualified person in this field.

Has anyone

evaluated a314, i have been hearing mixed reports. Is there mones in them? Can anyone help.

[woofa1]

mobExcite wipes mens i was

refering to. Cant purcase from LS anymore ceased production. Happened to come across a friend who purchased them

from a distributor from kiotech? Can anyone else besides bronzie give the true opinion on a314?

[bronzie]

REad bronzies

evaluation on DR.dodd credintials. His no mug?? iNfact a much qualified person in this field.

Thanks

for the aknowledgement Woofa, yes, I included his CV in this post just to convey to the members the degree of

expertise this Man has in the field of smell technology. And ofcourse Pheromones. I wonder if the Queen of England

has knighted him Sir Pheromone? or Lord Pheromone?.... :box:



As for A314, I own this product woofa,

but still cannot give you a decisive conclusion, will need to experiment more. Maybe others can contribute, or start

a new thread....

[SyraBrian]

Damn it. I guess I got some of

the last batch before they went bye-bye. Used two, gave four away to a female friend that I had promised to hook up

with some mones.

Didn't realize that they had all run out between the time I ordered and the time I

received them. Now, I'm down to one friggin' wipe!

Better make good use of it!

[bronzie]

No more XCITE WIPES on love

scent??????

R.I.P XCITE WIPES.......

[oscar]

Hey

bronzie...listen.. Can't I just buy a bottle of Pheromol Factor and call it a day?

Same thing

right?


Go for it, same maker apparently, but not same product or

effect.



bronzie,

I'm not exactly sure I get what you're saying here.

When the

original men's Xcite wipes were released, the tag-line was that they were the exact same pheromone formula as

Pheromol Factor, and from the same manufacturer as well. (Kiotech during the "Dodd-direct involvement, pre-fish lure

era".)

So why would Pheromol Factor not provide the same effect?
Has the formula changed in the newest

incarnation of the wipes? Weren't the pheromone formulae the same between the men's and women's PF and Xcite

lines? Who's making the most recent batch of wipes? Is it NA, HPS Inc., or a subsidiary, or is it being licensed

out? Why would they resurrect the women's wipes and not the men's?
(I don't actually expect you to be able

answer ALL these questions. ;))

At any rate, rather than stinking myself up with a female fragrance, I would

prefer to use the nice, crisp, masculine-smelling scent of men's Pheromol Factor.

While the bottled version

of PF won't fit in your wallet like the wipes will, the bottle is small enough to be carried inconspicuously in

one's pocket.
Additionally, unlike many other phero products, the PF bottle looks quite simply like a

mainstream cologne miniature. (I recently took a bottle of NPA-spiked Pheromol Factor on an international trip, and

had no fear about it arousing suspicions at Customs stops.)

PF has always been one of the best bargains on

LS, and with the current "PF/NPA/4 Gels Super

Combo" (http://love-scent.com/product_info.php?ref=66&products_id=120) going on it's practically FREE!

Why would I go rubbing a bubble gum flavored women's wipe on

myself?

I don't get it.

Oscar :)

[bronzie]

bronzie,

I'm not exactly sure I get what you're saying here.

When the original men's

Xcite wipes were released, the tag-line was that they were the exact same pheromone formula as Pheromol Factor, and

from the same manufacturer as well. (Kiotech during the "Dodd-direct involvement, pre-fish lure era".)

So why

would Pheromol Factor not provide the same effect?
Has the formula changed in the newest incarnation of the

wipes? Weren't the pheromone formulae the same between the men's and women's PF and Xcite lines? Who's making

the most recent batch of wipes? Is it NA, HPS Inc., or a subsidiary, or is it being licensed out? Why would they

resurrect the women's wipes and not the men's?
(I don't actually expect you to be able answer ALL these

questions. ;))

At any rate, rather than stinking myself up with a female fragrance, I would prefer to use the

nice, crisp, masculine-smelling scent of men's Pheromol Factor.

While the bottled version of PF won't fit

in your wallet like the wipes will, the bottle is small enough to be carried inconspicuously in one's pocket.


Additionally, unlike many other phero products, the PF bottle looks quite simply like a mainstream cologne

miniature. (I recently took a bottle of NPA-spiked Pheromol Factor on an international trip, and had no fear about

it arousing suspicions at Customs stops.)

PF has always been one of the best bargains on LS, and with the

current "PF/NPA/4 Gels Super Combo" (http://love-scent.com/product_info.php?ref=66&products_id=120) going

on it's practically FREE!

Why would I go rubbing a bubble gum flavored women's wipe on myself?

I

don't get it.

Oscar :)


Oscar, I see your point, I will reply fully in my next post, as im

a Xcite wipe, Dr Dodd groupie, as you probably have already guessed, I bought Pheromol Factor in the new combo

offered at l-s, what can I say, I kind of missed the stuff and enjoyed it, havnt used it in a couple of years, I

used it the other night with some interesting results....

[SoCal]

The smell to me of PF is the same

as the wipes if I remember correctly. I think that the wipes had basically 10% of a PF bottle in them. It was a lot.

I loved them. I was going to see if I could make my own wipes out of the PF, but it would take a lot of bottles to

match the wipes.

[SyraBrian]

From the research I've done,

the pheromone signature and scent were the same in PF as in the original men's wipes. At one point, the scent to

the wipes was changed so as to differentiate it from PF.

I prefer even girlie smelling wipes to dropable

and overdosable bottles. That being said, I'm going to make PF part of my next order.

[SoCal]

With the Chem set, is it possible

to make my own PF mix? Scent too (some other way)?

[SyraBrian]

PF has twenty to thirty

different pheromones, many of them variants of androstenol. I don't think the chem set is capable of replicating

PF.

Back in the day, I ordered PF repeatedly. Always had good effects from it. For some reason, I've

forsaken the tried and true for the new and intriguing. I've also read that SoE amps up PF to new heights.

[bronzie]

Oscar, when Pheromol Factor was

released, yes that was the marketing tag, that it was the exact formula as the Xcite Wipes, however, after

considerable research on this product, and correspondence with the creator, Xcite Wipes were a second generation

product. That is the reason, the effects are not the same, nor is the Scent, Pheromol Factor has a totally different

scent to Xcite Wipes, the wipes were a lot more refined, with a very deep complex scent, Pheromol Factor has a

rather flat alcohol induced aroma.

The reason, and just my wild guess why love-scent only sold the female

version of the wipes is two fold, the wipes Generally have been discontinued, kaput, finished! The male version of

these wipes were the ones that sold out very quickly through the various stores that handled them, also the people

and suppliers that do own the male variety wont let them go, because they understand this product is defunct, and

keep them as a kind of collection.

Now, the female wipes were a surplus line in this range, (most guys

purchased the men’s version) and obviously they were not popular with women. Therefore, even after the company

ceased in production, their were quite a few of the fem version of the wipes left over, hence the reason, why you

will see them from time to time available on the internet, at a rather inflated price. It’s a case of demand and

supply, the supply is limited, the demand is high.

Xcite wipes as a product exist, both in male and female

version, however, Kiotech do not make them, and the formula has nothing to do with what kiotech produced, I was told

this from the horses mouth so to speak, the new wipes, are made from a company called captain condom, the scent of

these new wipes is rather poor, actually a pungent lemon, the pheromone formula in these new wipes? Well, I have no

clue, however the effects in no way resemble the original Xcite wipes.

I have discovered, a rather

interesting point (might create a new thread on this) the female version of the Xcite Wipes were actually more

effective on young girls than the male version of the scent, reason is, female scents create an air of familiarity

to girls, they are non threatening and a female scent reflects a girls sense of narcissim.

I have met girls

that wear men’s colognes only and never buy women’s scents for this reason.

[bronzie]

That said, Pheromol Factor is

still a decent product, alot more complex and much better than alot of other pheromone products on the market,

Pheromol Factor is also a product that has ceased in production, its also a product that is not produced anymore,

and to my knowledge , only love scent stocks it, so when love scent runs out of this range, thats it!

[CrystalMoon]

Looks like I'm very lucky

then, because I have hundreds of Xcite Wipes for women - all manufactured by Kiotech, and all bought here in the UK.



The smell of these is nothing like lemon. It is a soft, almost skin-lotion fragrance, and that is the same as it

always has been, in all the time I have been purchasing them. Almost identical to that of Pherofragrance For Women

(for obvious reasons), in fact. I get excellent results using these - every time.

There are still loads of

suppliers over here, so I don't honestly know what the story behind this "mystery" is..

FYI bronzie - not all

women are narcissistic. Sweeping generalisations like that, are NOT going to win you many female friends..

Ail

:-)

[bronzie]

Looks like I'm

very lucky then, because I have hundreds of Xcite Wipes for women - all manufactured by Kiotech, and all bought here

in the UK.

Yeah, you are fortunate, I too have a major supply of both the female wipes and male wipes

that will last me a life time, however, the wipes are not necessary to achieve the desired effect from this

particular product, the exact formula and exact scent is produced in liquid form and can be purchased directly from

the creator of the original wipes, I would not have mentioned this product here out of courtesy to love scent, since

love scent does not stock this product, however since you already mentioned it, yes it's called "pherofragrance", I

hope love scent would sell it some day.



The smell of these is nothing like lemon. It

is a soft, almost skin-lotion fragrance, and that is the same as it always has been, in all the time I have been

purchasing them. Almost identical to that of Pherofragrance For Women (for obvious reasons), in fact. I get

excellent results using these - every time.

Perhaps you misread my previous post, I said the new

Xcite wipes that are distributed and marketed under the name "Captain Condom" are the wipes that contain a pungent

lemon scent and probably also contain a rather inferior pheromone signiture.



There are

still loads of suppliers over here, so I don't honestly know what the story behind this "mystery"

is..


To my knowledge, the Original Mens formula of the Xcite wipes are pretty much non existent

in the market place, the product has ceased in production for some years now, and supplies have pretty much dried

up, if they were that easy to get hold of, I bet Bruce would have sold them here, as he did with the Female Wipes.


Like I mentioned in my previous post, the Original Female version of the wipes are still available, although at

a rather inflated price, much more than what love-scent sold them for.

However, if you have a good source of

the Original Fem wipes, maybe you can share it with the forum? I for one would like to

know.



FYI bronzie - not all women are narcissistic.


All women, in

fact everyone has a level of narcissism, both genders possess this, however, it seems alot more Prevalent amongst

females or feminine gender, hence the reason why women adorn themselves so much, wear make up, and generally adjust

themselves aesthetically to their own liking. I’m not speaking in general terms, this is universal. Could women that

own hundreds of female xcite wipes be called narcissistic? Or does she “only” own them for the pleasure of their

partner? hmmm I wonder…




Sweeping generalisations like that,are NOT going to win

you many female friends..

Ail :-)


The fact why I have so many female friends is because I

understand this very fact, amongst other things in female behaviour, however, I prefer the sex to the friendship

anyway or gain thier friendship then have the sex, whatever comes first.

[goodguy]

Okay, I went and

bought some Xcite Wipes from LS. It says manufactured by Kiotech in the UK on it. The scent is unusual (not buble

gum or lemon as described here). So what did I get? Whatever the case- this stuff works on me at the very least.

[oscar]

This thread has been trimmed back to

the point where it departed from the originally posted topic.

Oscar :)

[MOBLEYC57]

This thread has

been trimmed back to the point where it departed from the originally posted topic.

Oscar :)

Thanks

Big O! :box:

Anyone else playing with the fem excite wipes? :blink:

[bronzie]

Does anyone here know what PF

woman (pheromol factor) smells like?