Help with EX for Newbie!!!

[Nova12]

Hello Forum People,
As you will surely figure out I am new the world of Mones. I have recently discovered

this site and the forum. I have looked through and read many of the posts and I do believe that there is help to be

found here.
I appreciate any comments that you may have.
Let me start by saying that I do not believe that mones

are a magical substance. I do believe that they will help alter moods and perception. I did see Golems Mantra and it

makes good sense "mones are the icing , but I am the cake"
I want to get back with my Ex. Long story but, we have

kids and had been together for 6 years.
I have seen all of the posts about buying mones from other sources, and

before I found this site I had done exactly that. SORRY...
First, I bought something called "pure instinct" from an

adult store. I have no idea what it consists of. It was supposed to be unisex. I wore it a few times, but it smelled

like fruit so I felt self conscious about smelling "fruity". (side note, I gave it to my ex.... She smells very

good, and it seems to make her flirty when she wears it) I told her that I bought this and that I don't like the

smell, and that it 's silly to try and influence people this way. She was flattered that I was going through the

effort....
I know I'm rambling some....
Then I found the Pherone site (sorry Bruce) I saw that the D-17X is the

most powerful on the market. So of course, that was for me, I bought it in a "kit" with V-5.
D-17 x is supposed to

be just Non and very concentrated.
V-5 is supposed to make people chatty and feel good... So Nol, primarily is my

guess.
When I ordered I had no idea that there were different mones for different applications.... I did my

purchasing before I did my research.
I am:
5' 8" tall
weigh 135 lbs (down from 150 before the Speration)
38

years old.
My ex is 25 yrs.
I see my ex often, and we spend a lot of time together as friends.... I want to "tip"

her over the edge and try to take it further. I know that she goes back and forth on our future.....
So having said

all of this can anyone help me out with ratios?
how much of each to apply and where?
do I need to refresh?
I

am planning to buy some Chikara. It sounds awesome. After finding love-scent and seeing what is offered in product

and supoort (the forum) I will only order from Bruce in the future.
In the mean time any suggestions on how best to

use what I have would be great!!!!
BTW:
I did get a good hit while wearing the V-5, D-17X in a ratio of about

3:1. A woman that I know put her arm around me (never had before) and told me "We should go to lunch" then she gave

me her number.... At church with my Ex in the next room!!!

[bronzie]

you have kids with your ex?

sorry dude, may sound a bit blunt, but pheromones should be the last thing you think of, addressing issues/problems

with your ex first, if you were just getting back with an ex ok, but when kids are involved you really need to take

some serious action and consideration...

pheromones are novelties in the world of reality, your kids needs

should come first, whatever the situation...

[Nova12]

If I came off as crass please

forgive me.
The truth is that my kids are a big reason for trying to reconcile.
One of the problems that we now

have is that she say's that she doesn't look at me "in that way" right now. I am just trying to be more attractive

to her.
We get along very well, see one another often.
We are great parents together.
All I want to do is get

over a hurdle.
Staying fit, looking nice, haircuts, pheromones, etc.... are all trivial in the end.
I am just

looking for a little advise on something that I know very little about.
I apologize if I've been too serious.

[bronzie]

Nova, maybe go see a counselor

together, if she agrees, it may well pay off, having a third party with experience try to help you is often good in

these situations, pheromones, well if they give you a placebo effect for some confidence etc, great, but seriously I

would not rely on them if I were in your shoes. I would take more serious measures, and if you cannot work it out

alone, seek some type of proffessional help.

[Mak]

Nova,

No apologies needed ..

you asking for opinions, and you are courageous spilling your guts like that, which is respected.

I do not know

those products you have, so will speak in terms on pheromones, not products.

You seem to already have a

anone/nol mix working, which is close to what I thought to recommend. Try that for a week or two around the person

of interest, see if there is a change.

Also, you may try the same anone/nol ratio but with Beta-Nol instead of

Alpha-Nol. Bnol is never a waste of money, in my experience.

Two last things.

1) Your Ex may take longer to

change her attitude around you, happens with close people always.

2) The best pheromone to get an Ex back, is

called a casual girlfriend. I'll guarantee you'll get a 'reaction' from that.

[Nova12]

Thank you for your advise.
We

have seen counsellors in the past and we both agree that if we can get to "that" point, we will again.
Any advise

on the ratios of -non to -nol?
I wouldn't feel right about a casual girlfriend... it just seems like I'd be using

her. I do see the wisdom though!!!!
Again thanks for replying.

[gaf]

Nova, The best pheromone

to get an Ex back, is called a casual girlfriend. I'll guarantee you'll get a 'reaction' from

that.

Yep, a lot of woman hate competition.
I've noticed that some woman act as if not

interested until they find out I have a GF , then they start to open up. ( but that might be because they often

think I'm gay)
Seriously , you don't have to get up to anything with another woman. Just let your ex know

quietly that you are an eligible man and that woman do find you attractive by going out with a few on dates , she

may be thinking "there's no hurry, he'll always be there for me" but soon as she notices you aren't waiting

around to be a doormat for her she may come running back. try it , what have you got to lose! :wave:

[Mak]

You have the 3:1 nol/none ratio

working for you, but you can try 2:1 at nighttime.

One part going either way, of nol or none, is experimenting

what works for you.

The idea of a gf is that you are taking the lead. To have your ex decide what she wants to

do, and for you to decide to start having a full life, with the ex or another.

[maxo-texas]

Sounds to me like the "I like

you" may be layered over anger or broken trust.

That's hard to fix.

If you want the mones to work- you need

to find out when she is in the fertile part of her period and when she is in the period part of her period.

You

probably also need to take her out to fun things and even get a couple drinks in her so she might tell you how she

really feels and what her real grievances are.

[slickracer]

hey nova, im not going to be

your marrage councerler and give you adive on how to fix your relationship because first of all i dont know anything

abou your history on what you have done or what you guys are going througe, and 2nd you asked for phero advice so

that is what i'll give you. i'll back your choice about getting Chakara, as it is a -rone heavy product. in my

experiance, i have notice that rone will give you the powerful, succesful, fatherly immage. sence you already had

kids with her (they are your guy's right?) it would be great, cause from experimenting i have realized that i

produce alot of rones and i can od on rones easily, and that had made me very attractive in the eyes of girls that

are pragent or had a kid. to be honest tho, for me personally, i do not like useing Chakara, BECAUSE i have no

intrest in fucking girls that are moms or pregent. so i stick with AE, which produces a BADASS vibe, which i love.

but in your case you wont want that, you want the powerful, seccusful, father vibe going. so go with Chakara, and if

you like that (-rones) theres another product thats purelly made out of rones. called A314. i have never actually

tried it (cause i dont really need any help with roens in my case) but i heard alot of good reviews about it.



good luck man, and keep the love strong!!

[koolking1]

"2) The best pheromone to

get an Ex back, is called a casual girlfriend. I'll guarantee you'll get a 'reaction' from that."

Mak is

10000% right, it's the only thing that really works. And, if you don't get the ex back, you will be that far

ahead of the game. If at all possible, the "girlfriend" should be better looking than your ex. You can always tell

your ex "Hey, I do want to get back together with you but I can't let you make me wait forever, can I?" whoops,

leave the "can I" part out - you are in charge and there's no need to ask for her permission.

[bronzie]

Thank you for your

advise.
We have seen counsellors in the past and we both agree that if we can get to "that" point, we will

again.
Any advise on the ratios of -non to -nol?
I wouldn't feel right about a casual girlfriend... it just

seems like I'd be using her. I do see the wisdom though!!!!
Again thanks for replying.

Find the

day(s) at the hight of her monthly cycle, then use a heavy .none product, you may have been with this women in the

past, intimate etc for many years, however, since you have been seperated, play a little hard to get, show that you

have worth, otherwise, if you do alot of the chasing, she may lose interest

[Spivedog]

Find the day(s) at the

hight of her monthly cycle, then use a heavy .none product,

bronzie,

lol-You got that from me,

didn't ya!?
:rofl: Cool, man!

[bronzie]

bronzie,



lol-You got that from me, didn't ya!?
:rofl: Cool, man!

no mate, I have been using this

tactic for years, girls I date, girls im with, I always find out thier cycle, and use .none

[koolking1]

why is it that I can

easily picture you hanging around the tampon display at your local supermarket?

[bronzie]

why is it that

I can easily picture you hanging around the tampon display at your local supermarket?

maybe because

you have a warped sense of imagination, or a warped sense of attempted humour.

[koolking1]

the public decide!!!

[bronzie]

I dont think many people endorse

such comments, unless they share your deviated humour.

[slickracer]

haha i think you guys scared

him away.

[maxo-texas]

His joke would have been

modded funny and insightful on slashdot, then modded down as a troll and overrated.

It was a logical conclusion

if you think strongly the cycle has an effect. Ah well, I guess I'm just twisted too. LoL

[Nova12]

Hello,
I have not been scared

away. I have tried to post several times but I have been booted off...??...
Any, I'll post this and see if it

works, If so, I thank you all for responding. If not, then I just thanked myself....

[Mak]

Hello,
I have not

been scared away. I have tried to post several times but I have been booted off...??...
Any, I'll post this and

see if it works, If so, I thank you all for responding. If not, then I just thanked myself....

Did you

find any better/good results yet using pheros, since your last posts ?

[Rakesh]

I was about to post a standard

"stop trying to get your ex back, its not worth it" response when I noticed there are kids involved.

Aww man,

just aww.

That's one of the very few good reasons to try and revive a relationship with an ex. The second

good reason I can think of now is your ex being, like, the owner of Kuwait.

I think the "get a gf" advice is

excellent, jealousy cuts deeper than steel and will raise your value like mad.

Can you share some details

about the relationship (cause of breakup etc) so that we can prescribe a custom medicine, -mone or psychological or

otherwise?