Olive Leaf Redux

[Holmes]

Does it really

work?

I'm trying to find a replacement for antibiotic treatment.

[surfs_up]

all brands, even some "specially modified" forms... did observe a moderately useful

antifungal property at higher levels where it fought with my onchomycosis (toe jam fungus)... eventually the oncho

figured out how to defeat the olive leaf extract and we were back to base one. I'd never use it as a replacement

for an antibiotic in an infection... massively overhyped stuff IMO... there IS an interesting, genuinely useful

component of olives, that's an olive fruit extract called hydroxytyrosol... the stuff that makes extra virgin olive

oil peppery... I believe it is packaged as Olivenol, probably other brands of the same thing around too... probably

inhibits LDL (low density lipoprotein) oxidation, which stops the plaque build up on the arterial linings.... why

olive consuming populations have less cardio vascular disease that the meat-n-taters crowd.... dunno why, a lot of

mediterranean foods have important protective substances in them, especially tomatos (lycopene) and pomegranates (a

range of polyphenols like red wines, but more concentrated)

[gabe1970]

100% Tea Tree oil can

supposedly be used topically as an antibiotic, but I've used it on pimples and razor bumps to little or no effect.

Fresh Aloe oil also is said to have antibiotic properties. I've seen fresh aloe work wonders on burns, but not

infections. And by fresh I mean sqeezed directly out of the plants leaves onto the area of interest immediately

after seperating the leaf from the plant. Aloe plants are easy to obtain at nurseries, so I wouldn't use it any

other way. You might try combining the two, but I personally wouldn't use any herbs for internal or systemic

infections, since they are not as strong as pharmaceuticals in that case. If there is an Apothecary (not

pharmacist!) in your area, give them a call. They can advise you better than anyone else.

[Holmes]

Thanks guys. Funny thing...I asked

my naturopath about Olive Leaf the other day (this was a guy who four years ago had been pimpin' the 'Leaf as the

ultimate cure-all...). Well...apparently he's come around to believing that it doesn't do jack for viral/bacterial

infections, based on the lack of success his patients have had with it. He did say it works for allergies,

though...

[bronzie]

Holmes, try one spoon of extra

virgin olive oil per day, not a blend, must be 100%. either with whatever you eat or just a table spoon full. The

oil is much better then the extract and actually lubricates your whole system, olive oil extract is slightly toxic,

and that is why its supposed to be a good anti bacterial-viral tonic. However, taken over a long period of time, it

does have side effects, which include stomach ulcers, and thining of the blood. Im a bit of an authority on olive

oil, I come from a region in the world that has the best olive oil on earth, so I know quite alot on this subject,

harvest, manufacturing, quality, effects, etc.

If you want the best anti oxident, that also acts as an anti

bacterial and and anti viral, nothing (natural product) on this planet beats a bark extract from france called

Pycnogenol. Check out this site, wwww.pycnogenol.com, as far as I understand, this substance will cure alot of

ailments, and heart patients are actually prescribed this as a medicine in Europe to strengthen artery walls. I have

tried this myself, its extremely effective in overall health, just one noticible side effect is that it creates

stomach acid, therefore, you must take this with food and only early in the day, as it also acts as a stimulant, not

something you want to take before bed. Its also a little expensive, but its well worth it. ( cheaper than

pheromones!)

Bark extracts are common now, and sold in different countries under different brand names, but

the French maritime Bark is the best, the trees actually grow in semi salt water and aquire alot of qualities that

other tree species do not have ( hence the word maritime ).

[terry0400-40]

I can

wipe out a viral infection of any discription , hep c , or aids , or cancer, influenza- ( usually overnight) for a

simple one like the flu, Using Ozone treatment for the same cost of a bottle of the mighty PI you can purchase a few

years supply, i have been taking it for 5 years on and off with fantastic and positive viral destroying results, i

am drinking it at this minute whilst i am typing. the only people who will say it wont work are the stupid doctors

and the drug companys for obvious reasons. I have saved many friends lives by putting them on to H2O2 WHICH IS OZONE

WHICH IS 35% HYDROGEN PEROXIDE FOOD GRADE, I take it internally with juce, i started taking it when the doctors gave

me 2 WEEKS TO LIVE, that was 5 years ago. GO ON if you got infection then Look it up on the net under hydrogen

peroxide or ozone or H2O2 its all the same , i am living proof that it is effective and there are thousands of

testemonies to be found for its effectivness and these people have not got money to gain by giving their testemonys

to the effectivness of the stuff because it is as cheap as shit, and it can be purchased anywhere. 35% FOOD GRADE

HYDROGEN PEROXIDE must be DILUTED, I drink 8 drops 35% HP the first thing every morning in cranberry juice. I also

water it down at a ratio of 11 to one in DE- MINERALISED WATER or distilled water, this gives me a 3% solution and

it can be used topically for skin infections, sores and tooth aches, i also insert 1/2 dropper full of 3% solution

into each ear for 10 minutes and this takes care of a severe flu, and as soon as a terrible sore throat is evident i

squirt it into ny mouth and work it around the roots of the under tongue where the bastard virus likes to hide using

this wonderfull oxygen product you can beat any of those viral sneaky bastards and their friends, it can even wipe

out a well entrenched cancer. the medical profession and drug producers spend a fortune putting shit on this stuff,

cancer research and its affiliated programs provide a very lucritive living for so many, the anti biotic

manufacturers know this stuff works and it is as cheap as shit to buy, and it has no detremental side effects,that

is why they try and suppress this knowledge. Learn about the HYDROGEN PEROXIDE 35% FOOD GRADE. And you will be

LAUGHING:thumbsup:

Bacterial infections can be complex depending on their nature

olive leaf ext is ok for some, but there is a cheaper and more effective alternative now this is very technical just

eat a grapefruit and chew up 2 or 3 of the seeds, do not throw any of the seeds away, just dry them and store them

because they have great anti bacterial properties. NEEM LEAF is another great anti viral anti bacterial. One of the

best is TEA TREE OIL 100% PURITY, this when applied to a wound or an ulcer will get under and draw the pus out , it

can be used very effectivly with 3% hydrogen peroxide alternatifly to heal exterior and also internal infections.

Full strength tea tree oil may be used very effectivly and taken internally with no problems just ignore the warning

on the bottle, by the same token dont drink the whole bottle or you will be sick for a few hours. THE DOSE IS 3 to 5

drops of 100% tea tree oil in a glass of juice drink this 3 times a day for a few weeks if necessary, it will knock

out any internal bacterier including CANDIDA, I REPEAT this will not damage any of the body tissues ok so dont

worry.

If a person is suffering chest pains or anjina condition that is caused by a

buildup within the coronary arteries if this is causing you distress and if you are on tablets or if you have

trouble walking up the stairs ect , you can clean these arteries out very efectively and be running around again

soon with no pain, SO take the test and try and prove me wrong. This is what you do, Every day drink 2 litres of

fresh full cream RAW UN pasturised milk from a healthy cow or herd . Do not heat the milk. OK and after a month you

will see for your self the great improvement in your aerobic output, and you will probably throw your heart pills

away. ie PASTURISED milk and pasturised milk products actually contribute to plarke build up, And also the reason so

many women are suseptable to cancers is because of a large consumption of soya milk and also flax seed oil, flax

seed oil should only be taken with cottage cheese 3/4 cup of the cheese to a soup spoon of oil is sufficient, The

way the soy products are consumed is the main problem, To be effective the soya must be a fermented product and that

is it in a nutshell, all these women who go around willy nilly throwing the commercial soyamilk down their throats

are asking for trouble the same goes for low fat and skim milk processed products and also margerine, butter is a

better product than the hydrogenated oils any day, and all of the commercial products containing trans fats ( that

is if you can identify them ) should be thrown to the shit house. NO wonder we are a sick society look what our

vegetables are growing in just look at what minerals are going back into the soil, only a few at best, and we need

over 50 to be truily healthy, We have to give up eating commercialised legal poison that is on the supermarket

shelves. DONT think your government is going to save you, just look at them and you can see the sick society in

perspective. WE have to study it out and take control if we want to experience true health and great wellbeing to

jump out of our beds click our heels and say WOW what a great day this is i feel GREAT.

[Holmes]

Wow, thanks for all of

this!

Bronzie - Yeah, I've done the olive oil thing, but mostly as part of rigorous (and unpleasant)

cleansing programs. Maybe I'll try it again in saner doses.

I bought some Pycnogenol - thanks for the heads

up on the stomach side-effect - definitely good for me to know right now! This stuff is supposedly great for the

cleansing the lymph system.

Speaking of barks, do you know anything about Pine Bark, in

particular?


terry - very, very interesting. This is all news to me (though I had some Ozone

treatments a few years ago, but didn't keep up with it - not covered, too x-pensive). Appreciate all the info and

will be looking into your recommendations.

Meanwhile, I just got this (purportedly) immune-boosting

supplement:

L-Glutathione (12mg)
Zinc (15 mg)
Selenium (60 mcg)
Copper (0.75 mg)
Manganese (2.25

mg)

Protease (150,000 HUT)
Catalase (4500 Cat U)
Amylase (2260 DU)
Cellulase (600 CU)
Invertase

(3 IAU)
Pactinase (16 endo PG)
Lipase (150 FCCLU)
Deglycyrrized Licorice (150mg)
Grapseed Extract

(90mg)
Green Tea Extract (30mg)
Red Wine Extract (30mg)
Pine Bark Proanthocyanidin (18mg)
Ginko Biloba

Leaf 50:1 Extract (18mg)

You're supposed to take 3 caps 3x daily. What do y'all think?

[DrSmellThis]

Olive leaf is a good broad

base anti microbial. It works against almost anything, especially viruses. It's not as powerful as some, so

you have to work up to 9 capsules/day often. There is a concentrated version available but the name slips

me.

There are lots of other options, including garlic and oregano oil that work great but not so much on

viruses.

Moral: target your approach through study/knowledgeable pros.

[bolounit]

Does it really work?

I'm trying to find a replacement for antibiotic treatment. a bit

but try oregano oil.Its like giving your body aim 54 phoenix missels to use against bacteria.