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starboy
06-23-2006, 10:52 PM
hey guys. I'm
playing the singles game, and also the pheromone game again after a year and a half.
here are my thoughts:
I'm fairly attractive, tho a little too skinny (working on gaining weight). I have a good personality, tho trying
to overcome my "nice guy" tendencies (you know, the bad kind), and I have an elementary knowledge in attracting and
seducing women. with my current set of characteristics, 4s and 5s come to me, and with a little effort I can get a 6
or 7. with luck, maybe an 8.
my goal with pheromones it to have 5s and 6s seek me, get 7s and 8s with effort,
etc.
I'll not I'm also working on my overall self, as in lifting wieghts etc.
would you say this is a
realistic view of pheromones?
Gegogi
06-24-2006, 04:17 AM
Work on refining your goals. "To
have 5s and 6s seek me, get 7s and 8s with effort" comes off as shallow. There's a lot more to a woman than a
numerical rating (based on appearance). Of course if your rating indicates the sum of lifestyle, intelligence,
personality, education and physical hotness, you're barking up the right tree.
You need to foster similar
attributes within yourself to make yourself attractive to quality women. While looks and confidence are important
for a man, what you do and who you are are even more critcial. Quality women are drawn to men with position and
purpose in life. A buff body is mere frosting on the cake when it comes to male attractiveness.
Work on refining your
goals. "To have 5s and 6s seek me, get 7s and 8s with effort" comes off as shallow. There's a lot more to a woman
than a numerical rating (based on appearance). Of course if your rating indicates the sum of lifestyle,
intelligence, personality, education and physical hotness, you're barking up the right tree.
You need to
foster similar attributes within yourself to make yourself attractive to quality women. While looks and confidence
are important for a man, what you do and who you are are even more critcial. Quality women are drawn to men with
position and purpose in life. A buff body is mere frosting on the cake when it comes to male
attractiveness.
i can attest to that!
i dated the most vain man ever (not in any way implying that you
are,starboy, but this guy was vain-lol)
and all i could think about although he was built like an underware model
was "if this guy had as much game as he had looks, we'd have stuff to talk about afterwards!" needless to say, lack
of talk led to lack of everything else,lol. when a guy works out though, the REAL cool thing about it isnt the
physical outcome, but the confidence you feel when your pleased with yourself...thats pretty hot. goals, other
interests, ambition, being of service- even hotter. great advice, Gegogi :thumbsup:
belgareth
06-24-2006, 10:08 AM
Several of us have been saying
that for a long time. Gegogi says it more often and better than most of us. It's a pleasure to have the ladies
support our positions.
The same applies to women, of course. An attractive woman is always nice to look at but
one with a personality, humor, intelligence and education is so much more fun.
bronzie
06-24-2006, 10:37 AM
starboy, go for the 10, and work
your way down, not visa versa, because chances are if you think a 5 is all you are worth , that is what you will
get, its a self fulfilling prophacy
by the way your 10 is probably different to mine, so dont listen much to
other people in this regard, as long as she is not nasty and a bi*tch and respectful of you, your in the right
direction
hey those that strive for a 10, usually fall for an 8, those that go for a 5, fall even lower
sometimes.
as belgareth explained, this number ranking is ridicules, as so many factors are at play, women
are not calculars but complex emotional biengs
just find someone your compatible with......
starboy
06-24-2006, 11:48 AM
you guys gotta understand, a lot
of this is sort of a game to me, as I just got out of a very serious relationship and not in a hurry to jump into
another one. instead I'm, trying to just attract the hottest/best personality woman and let nature take it's
course. you know, just have fun with it. these girls will know that too of course.
now I'm not working out
because I think looking good will automatically get me women, it's just that when you're too skinny, it can be a
deal killer. the hot ones avoid you just because you're too skinny.
I'm working on every aspect of
myself right now, not so I can score a good woman, but so I can be a better person. scoring a good woman is a nice
side effect.
I mean I know how to get girls. I guess my ideology is just that whatever I can do without the
pheromones, I can do it slightly (or even significantly) better with them.
Fatal
06-24-2006, 07:17 PM
the hot ones avoid
you just because you're too skinny.
:POKE:
That's nonsense. I'm super skinny and you know
what? I just get teased from hot girl wishing they could be as skinny as me. I usually do the whole mocking them
about "omg i need to run 309842 miles after this dorito because I'm so fat".
Pure rubbish. It's your frame of
mind. But, to atest to you, I am doing the same. Working out and bulking up. More on the just toning than huge bulk.
I do it for selfconfidence and to make me in better shape. I look in the miror and say "damn you look good" It's
different if you have to work at becoming who you are, you see things differently than people who are born like
it.
Remember that getting a great body, using mones, having good clothes are only toppings. Your personality is
the most important. If you have a bad one, these others wont do much good. But if you have a great personality, have
a good body, smell good, use mones, have good fashion style, they all add up.
Toppings aren't much unless have
something to top.
starboy
06-24-2006, 09:25 PM
I agree, but I think that
'toppings' is a bad analogy. toppings are something you enjoy after you already decide to eat the bowl of ice
cream. looks, pheros, etc. help her decide she wants to consider eating the ice cream in the first place.
getting the initial meeting is half the battle. after that, its all personality.
of course, I'm not gaining
weight to get women, I'm doing it to be a better man.
Gegogi
06-24-2006, 09:29 PM
I'm rather slim--some say
skinny--but well toned and have no problem attracting quality women. While a small percentage of women are attracted
to buff guys, I've found many actually hold them in disdain. Some don't like the look but most have told me the
body building lifestyle made for rather poor relationships. I think guys are the ones in love with the buff look,
not women. Otherwise you'd see plenty women flippin' through muscle mags at Safeway. On the contrary, it's guys
that enjoy getting an eyefull. I recall when I worked out at 24 Hour Fitness buff guys spent more time checking one
another out than women!
starboy
06-24-2006, 10:04 PM
to put it into perspective, I'm
5'10 and 120 lbs.. underweight for my height. my goal is 140-150, which is a healthy weight without being all
muscle bound
CptKipling
06-25-2006, 12:04 PM
Having a good body and a good
body shape are useful for two things:
1) An initial conveyance of value. Having visible muscles can make you
look more masculine/alpha, like you can protect yourself and her. Also a good body and body shape (good body shape
can be achieved without very big muscles) DOES look good, girls will say so, but the looking good bit is probably
linked to my second point...
2) (this is not MY opinion btw, ;) ) There is something animalistic and sexual
about a well muscled guy. If she "feels" this then sex is at least on the cards.
Having said all that though,
that's only my experience of girls from about 17 to mid-twenties. When I bulked back up I got more stares and eye
contact.
CptKipling
06-25-2006, 12:06 PM
Thats not to say that a skinny
guy won't have any value or won't be able to attract girls, there are different ways of doing things.
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