Results with AE when used ALONE?

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What kinds of results have you guys gotten with Alter-Ego when used by itself? I hear a lot about it being mixed with The Edge, but I\'m new to this pheromone stuff and am starting out simple without mixing anything. I\'m a 20 year old college student who is very athletic (I\'m on the track team). How much should I put on and what are the best places to apply it? Does someone have to get real close to me to pick it up, or is it possible for someone to pick it up from across a room? I\'ve tried putting 5 dabs on (not drops) and haven\'t noticed any reactions by anyone. I\'ve tried alternating between applying it to my clothing and directly to the skin. No hits so far. Anyone got any ideas?

[Bruce]

Sounds like AE on its own should work for you. The major problem I\'ve found with it is that the fragrance dies down VERY quickly and you are basically wearing an unscented yet potent potion which can result in some perceived BO problems. I came upon a quick fix for AE very early in the game, so I have gotten comfortable with that. I use a citrus \"facial splash\" that I think goes together great with AE and hangs on. At my age I like to zap the whole thing with Edge (or NPA) but if you are 20, a lot of guys will tell you to skip that. I rarely recommend mixing fragrances, but with AE, you almost need some added fragrance.
Hope that helped,
Bruce

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Thanks, that did help alot. One more question though: How much do you put on? Where on your body do you put it? How often do you re-apply??

[Bruce]

The amount is mainly a matter of taste, especially with a scented product like AE. The reapplication question is a tough one since, as I mentioned, the cover fragrance dies down quickly leaving the heavy phero smell on its own. The tendency is to slap on some more, but then a few hours later, you will be facing the 2X phero smell with 0 cover fragrance. I would carry a compatible fragrance to renew the AE fragrance when it dies down. The phero oils are always going to hang on for a long time even after showering, and can last for weeks if it gets on your clothing either intentionally or by accident to collars and cuffs.
Regards,
Bruce

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Personal user of AE here, i find best when used by itself (im 21 and well built) best tips i can offer is apply around neck and face and if youve got an alcohol product spray some of that (attraction or the edge) both dont smell the best andro 4.2 but yeah i would say 8 to 10 dabs and then reapply about 2 or 3 about 3 hours later and then you will find later in the day that the hits will come, if you sweat more (work out) i fnind that the responses are even better , good for those of us in warmer climates. Australians will know what i mean especially those of us in sub tropical climates. I work in retail and it is good for business sales as well, ive noticed a major increase in the amount of commision i get which is good to spend some on new pheromone products.

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since you haven\'t had any results yet you may want to try toning it down just to see what happens. I suggest maybe 2-3 dabs, buy you may need to vary your dosage until you find what works. If after a couple weeks you still don\'t get any results then it may be that AE just isn\'t for you. The concentration is pretty strong, as a matter of fact, and you may want to try a product low in androstenone or with no androstenone at all and something with more androstenol. If AE doesn\'t work, you may want to check out Scent of Eros.

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Ok, that prety much answered all of those questions, but I do have just one more...
What kind of range does this stuff have? Should I expect someone to pick it up across a room or does it work better if someone gets kinda close to me (i.e. i get a hug from someone and they get a whiff of it on my neck)?

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hmm...I\'d say roughly 5 ft, but I\'ve never actually tested the range, though I\'d say phero\'s are probably more of a close range type thing. I think how much you wear also effects the range. I\'m really not sure about that stuff though, but I bet DD knows more about range and effectiveness especially since he likes to test out overdosing

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I find that range seems to depend on the amount of time youve been in the area air currents if youve moved around etc and also other peoples ability to pick the pheros up anything from close to over 30 ft ive noticed also depends on application area and product type, so alcohol spray in the hair will spread further than oil based on skin so its good to use both say the edge for the hair gets them at long range, good body for the visual and then oil based alter ego NPA now the role on types as well of SOE to get them close range when they move into range. Im sure further posts will come up as to suggestions so keep an eye out and try less and also try more just to see which works best for you (hopefully it will work and are you paying attention to changes in body language etc, when i first used pheromones it took a while for me to notice the changes. A good way is not to use it for a couple of days and see if you notice a difference.

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Overdosing is an interesting thing to do once in a while and then more often once you get some experience, its also good if you have got different products to change individual and combination products. also some things work better in the cold and others in the heat. I havent got my head around that theroy yet but its there.

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Ok, thanks everybody. You have been more than helpful. I might try ODing in a couple days...i just started classes again so there are plenty of opportunities to try different things. Thanks for all the help images/icons/smile.gif

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To begin with my faviourate ODing low key situations is out shopping in a mall or big centre with lots of people you are anomoymous and you can guage the effectiveness. Just my suggestion or a casino or on a bus (anywhere you go normally to test it out.)

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Again the advice stands although i extend that to sporting matches for a different response. Also AE can be used well with attraction or even SPMO works well to, NPA seems to have an effect.