View Full Version : -nol bombardement
chromeboy
06-05-2006, 09:22 AM
Taken from the
phermone reference library:
NOL: short for
androstenol (http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstenol.htm). This could
be the "good brother" of
androstenone (http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstenone.htm), since it
triggers reactions from girls like chattiness, talking attitude, giggling and so on. If you are wearing
androstenol (http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstenol.htm), your
chances of striking up a long conversation or getting introduced with a good impression are consistently boosted
up.
Detectability: Stealth, almost unnoticeable.
Pros: Helps chattiness. Social responses.
Cons: None
known.
I would like to know what would happen if you ODed on -nol, especially if you are a male <25
years old. Since its detectability is low and its cons are unknown (except that I heard it makes the wearer
depressed) what are the odds when you walk around like a -nol tree? Would that increase friendliness or would it
have effeminate overtones?
slickracer
06-05-2006, 09:41 AM
i think you are reading that
the wrong way. first of all you can't od on NOL. i don't think one person has ever experianced it yet. and people
can cover strips after stripes of SoE all over thier body with out seeing anything negative.
when i do wear alot
of NOL tho, sometiems it puts me in a daze other then that i don't see/feel any depressed.
Gegogi
06-05-2006, 10:40 AM
I've basically swam in 'nol to
no ill-effect (SOE and chemset 'nol). On the contrary, the massive airhead chattiness is entertaining. Women I had
just met would not leave me alone and said whatever popped in their sweet little heads and pronto.
While
many claim 'nol is not sexual, humans are already very sexual. We are horny and don't need any help with that. The
initial meeting and relationship building is the hard part. Once you have a social and personal connection sex is a
natural progression if you hold up your side of the deal.
I've never suffered depression from wearing
'mones. A-1, nol, 'none, estratetraenol, it's all good. Many meats--especially beef--have additives which depress
me nearly every time I eat it. Never wear 'mones if you're depressed. They tend to make your state of mind
apparent to those around you. If you feel negative, 'mones will make you appear even worse.
chromeboy
06-05-2006, 11:17 AM
That is interesting. So can we
say "less is better" approach doesnt apply to -nol?
DrSmellThis
06-05-2006, 01:57 PM
You probably can OD on-nol.
I've had complaints of headaches, and so have a couple others, I think. Plus, the effectiveness goes down after a
certain amount, and you start to get a "metallic" smell. Back when I was using CS -nol regularly I concluded one
drop was the maximum. Two was too much. Someone could do the math on that if they wanted to.
The other problem
is conversions, which are a problem with -nol more than some other mones. THe more you wear, the more problems you
could have with conversions into undesirable things, like more -none.
All this has been discussed before on the
forum.
im
sensitive to the conversion...
as soon as 10 hours go by im agressive.borderline rude, and not by nature. if it
isnt 'none im feeling, id really be interested to know what it is. i just make sure i stick to the amt im
comfortable with, and if im feeling like more would be fun, i apply it to clothing so that i can control what is in
my atmosphere a little better. wonder how long its on clothes for?:think:
chromeboy
06-06-2006, 05:04 PM
I've basically
swam in 'nol to no ill-effect (SOE and chemset 'nol). On the contrary, the massive airhead chattiness is
entertaining..
What about beta-Androstenol? Do you think it will create the same effect?
Edit: Also
can there be any conversion if -nol is applied on clothes?
Gegogi
06-06-2006, 07:35 PM
I usually apply 'mones to my
clothing. They get more air time and last much longer. Obviously the heavy bacteria action on skin makes for quicker
breakdown of 'nol. If you're a sweaty dude--especially with summer heat--'nol is bound to have a short life.
I
haven't tried beta-Androstenol yet. It sounds promising so I'll probably buy the chemset bottle someday.
Well I decided to experiment with
the Lucky 7 chem set today. Before work, I put on a drop of -nol, and a drop of Estratetraenol. Then I put on 2
sprays of LT. No -none today. Which is rare for me. And let me say, EVERYONE WAS TALKING MY EAR OFF!!! And I do mean
everyone. And I felt absolutely incredible. I drink coffee EVERYDAY I work. I need it to stay alert... NOT TODAY!!!
I felt more relaxed and confident than I ever felt in my entire life. I'm definitly attributing this to mainly the
Estratetraenol. I've had some pretty good power trips on -nol. But today was ridiculous. Thank you Bruce!!! I
can't wait til' tommorow!
smoothflowing
06-06-2006, 08:44 PM
good for u :thumbsup:
good for u
:thumbsup:
lol I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not!
smoothflowing
06-06-2006, 10:15 PM
I'm in a really good mood
and enjoyed hearing someone elses good news
Sigma
06-07-2006, 12:39 AM
Well I decided to
experiment with the Lucky 7 chem set today. Before work, I put on a drop of -nol, and a drop of Estratetraenol. Then
I put on 2 sprays of LT. No -none today. Which is rare for me. And let me say, EVERYONE WAS TALKING MY EAR OFF!!!
And I do mean everyone. And I felt absolutely incredible. I drink coffee EVERYDAY I work. I need it to stay alert...
NOT TODAY!!! I felt more relaxed and confident than I ever felt in my entire life. I'm definitly attributing this
to mainly the Estratetraenol. I've had some pretty good power trips on -nol. But today was ridiculous. Thank you
Bruce!!! I can't wait til' tommorow!
I notice the same with estratetraenol.
jollysnowdevil
06-07-2006, 04:52 PM
You
probably can OD on-nol. I've had complaints of headaches, and so have a couple others, I think. .
i
once wore two full soe gels as an experiment to work. we had a meeting that day and originally sat up front. i sat
down next to one of the girls whom normally didn't pay too much attention to me. she looked over at me quickly got
a stunned look and immediately bimbo-sillyness ensued. a few minutes later my boss kicked me out of my chair as i
was in his seat.
i moved to the back of the room sat down. this time next to a woman i knew always liked my
mone scent. she looked at me stunned turned away. a moment later she looked at me said "wheeewww im getting a
headache i feel like im stoned" she got up and before switching seats said " it's not you"
so i do think it is
possible to od on nol. maybe not easy to do but everybody has their limits.
i also went on a job interview
wearing 1 full soe gel. during the beginning of my interview the manager remarked "are you nervous? your making me
nervous" i didn't get the job but 3 months later he called me back like i was a long lost friend and offered me a
job.
chromeboy
06-07-2006, 05:57 PM
When I read responses like
that, I look at my SOE bottle, look at the screen, look at the bottle again and wonder what am I doing wrong.
jollysnowdevil
06-07-2006, 06:35 PM
When I
read responses like that, I look at my SOE bottle, look at the screen, look at the bottle again and wonder what am I
doing wrong.
takes time to figure out the products for you. it also depends on who you interact with as
some are really sensitive others are not.
soe is very easy product to use.
in general start small work
your way up in regards to doses. (all products) and sometimes cutting back on my doses has worked even better.
with all products it does really help if you initiate contact.
chromeboy
06-07-2006, 07:04 PM
takes
time to figure out the products for you. it also depends on who you interact with as some are really sensitive
others are not.
soe is very easy product to use.
in general start small work your way up in regards to
doses. (all products) and sometimes cutting back on my doses has worked even better.
with all products it does
really help if you initiate contact.
Im 23. Average looking, average height (5'8'') average built. Im
mainly interacting with girls under the age of 25. I am generally relaxed and easy to talk with. I also apply 3
inches of SOE on my chin and when I am testing Chikara, I use 3 sprays on clothes. I have never used both of them,
since I would like to see the impact of individual phermones.
In fact I would like to go for the chem set, but I
want to be absolutely certain that SOE or Chikara does not work for me. My goal is to get social hits at this time.
I am going for the "girl behind the counter" or "the girl who works out next to you in the gym" hits. Only after
then I will add -none into my arsenal.
belgareth
06-07-2006, 07:16 PM
Im 23. Average
looking, average height (5'8'') average built. Im mainly interacting with girls under the age of 25. I am
generally relaxed and easy to talk with. I also apply 3 inches of SOE on my chin and when I am testing Chikara, I
use 3 sprays on clothes. I have never used both of them, since I would like to see the impact of individual
phermones.
In fact I would like to go for the chem set, but I want to be absolutely certain that SOE or Chikara
does not work for me. My goal is to get social hits at this time. I am going for the "girl behind the counter" or
"the girl who works out next to you in the gym" hits. Only after then I will add -none into my arsenal.
What is your personality like? Are you open, shy, and so on. I think it makes a lot of difference.
Sigma
06-07-2006, 07:26 PM
What about
beta-Androstenol? Do you think it will create the same effect?
Edit: Also can there be any conversion if -nol is
applied on clothes?
While alpha-nol can create the airheaded chattiness, beta-nol facilitates
communication on a more personal level. People befriend you quickly under the presence of betanol, and take a
liking to you right away. People around you become fast friends too.
chromeboy
06-08-2006, 06:10 AM
What is your
personality like? Are you open, shy, and so on. I think it makes a lot of difference.
I am here in the
UK for my PhD and English is my second language. In my native country, I am not shy at all when talking with girls
and I am generally partly-cocky and funny.
Although I speak good English, speaking with girls my age (around 23)
in a foreign language gets tricky. I have to learn the culture and social codes in order to maintain a fluff talk.
Otherwise my conversations end quite quickly.
That is why I go for mainly -nol products to open up the girls and
have THEM do the talking, because I need months before I can speak slang/everyday language like they do. But I am
always open and smile while speaking with them.
While
alpha-nol can create the airheaded chattiness, beta-nol facilitates communication on a more personal level. People
befriend you quickly under the presence of betanol, and take a liking to you right away. People around you become
fast friends too.
:POKE: now i have to know! why do you think products dont contain the beta'nol
predominantly? i have to limit my alpha'nol use (i cant bathe in the stuff,lol) due to conversion... does the beta
convert as easily/quickly? i am hearing so much good stuff about this beta'nol that now i have to do more
research!!!:type: thanks for any additional info...:kiss:
WorkingMann
06-08-2006, 09:37 AM
When I read
responses like that, I look at my SOE bottle, look at the screen, look at the bottle again and wonder what am I
doing wrong.
Precisely the same feeling I have..
Hmm..
:think:
Sigma
06-08-2006, 12:00 PM
:POKE: now i have to
know! why do you think products dont contain the beta'nol predominantly? i have to limit my alpha'nol use (i cant
bathe in the stuff,lol) due to conversion... does the beta convert as easily/quickly? i am hearing so much good
stuff about this beta'nol that now i have to do more research!!!:type: thanks for any additional
info...:kiss:
I know noting about betanol conversion, sorry. I can say that the prime effects seem to
last about 2-3 hours. Seems about the same as the life of alpha-nol. I have noticed that mixing beta and alpha nol
together can create the same senations as an all out alpha nol OD. I've mixed the two in high doses before, and
people started complaining of headaches and what not.
Overally betanol is a very good pheromone IMO, and I've
actually been replacing the alpha nol in my mixes with betanol lately. It isn't as fun, jovial and uplifting as
alpha nol, but for the purposes of really facilitating quality communication and building rapport with others,
betanol does a much better job.
I actually used a product that contained betanol in conjunction with A314 to an
internship interview recently, and since having been hired, have been wearing that combo almost everyday with good
results. Good stuff.
Another effect that people have reported while using betanol in high doses is a kind of
'truth serum' like effect. I've noticed this a few times, though it wasn't really a matter of anyone spilling
out some big secret. Its been more a matter of people delving deeper into personal conversation topics than one
would be usually comfortable discussing so casually. After a while they seem to recompose themselves and break away
from the subject, but its a cool effect while it does happen.
Another effect that people
have reported while using betanol in high doses is a kind of 'truth serum' like effect. I've noticed this a few
times, though it wasn't really a matter of anyone spilling out some big secret. Its been more a matter of people
delving deeper into personal conversation topics than one would be usually comfortable discussing so casually. After
a while they seem to recompose themselves and break away from the subject, but its a cool effect while it does
happen.
wow, thanks sigma.. this is good stuff. i think im getting the difference a little better now.
chromeboy
06-08-2006, 01:15 PM
Overally betanol
is a very good pheromone IMO, and I've actually been replacing the alpha nol in my mixes with betanol lately. It
isn't as fun, jovial and uplifting as alpha nol, but for the purposes of really facilitating quality communication
and building rapport with others, betanol does a much better job.
I actually used a product that contained
betanol in conjunction with A314 to an internship interview recently, and since having been hired, have been wearing
that combo almost everyday with good results. Good stuff.
Another effect that people have reported while using
betanol in high doses is a kind of 'truth serum' like effect. I've noticed this a few times, though it wasn't
really a matter of anyone spilling out some big secret. Its been more a matter of people delving deeper into
personal conversation topics than one would be usually comfortable discussing so casually. After a while they seem
to recompose themselves and break away from the subject, but its a cool effect while it does happen.
Sounds like they will work perfectly for my current situation.
CptKipling
06-09-2006, 11:16 AM
Lor,
There are several
things you can do to reduce the conversions.
Primarily, don't apply to sweaty areas. These naturally harbour
lots of bacteria that feast on pheromones. You also can ensure that your application spots are not washed too little
or too much (bascially, you need to manage your skin bacteria). The last one that comes to mind is applying
essential oils under your applications.
Lor,
There
are several things you can do to reduce the conversions.
Primarily, don't apply to sweaty areas. These
naturally harbour lots of bacteria that feast on pheromones. You also can ensure that your application spots are not
washed too little or too much (bascially, you need to manage your skin bacteria). The last one that comes to mind is
applying essential oils under your applications.
thats what it is....
i always apply after a
shower,possibly the antibacterial soap? the EO's are def a good idea, i have a bunch when i used to teach
aromatherepy so that could be fun too. thanks alot,CPT!
DrSmellThis
06-09-2006, 03:42 PM
The Kip gives good advice.
chromeboy
06-09-2006, 04:25 PM
I am here in
the UK for my PhD and English is my second language. In my native country, I am not shy at all when talking with
girls and I am generally partly-cocky and funny.
Although I speak good English, speaking with girls my age
(around 23) in a foreign language gets tricky. I have to learn the culture and social codes in order to maintain a
fluff talk. Otherwise my conversations end quite quickly.
That is why I go for mainly -nol products to open up
the girls and have THEM do the talking, because I need months before I can speak slang/everyday language like they
do. But I am always open and smile while speaking with them.
Could I get more opinions on this
particular situation? Both phermone-wise but also on how to get familiar with everday British conversation topics,
how to sustain fluff talk etc..
Whitehall
06-30-2006, 01:43 PM
If by "overdose" you mean a
response beyond expectations or desirability, I'd say yes.
My experiences with A-nol ODs are that people
(including myself) get giddy and intoxicated. Then headaches and eventually conversion to a repulsive
smell.
You can get a certain high on the stuff. I'd love to get on an amusement park ride in close quarters
with a woman wearing lots of a-nol.
As to conversions, I've noticed that SOE on the BACK of my hand converts
rapidly to something rank and offputting but not so elsewhere on my body. I think that's the A-rone.
The Real FTR
06-30-2006, 02:02 PM
One sign of nol od is that
people rub their noses - it makes your nose stuffy/itchy. Besides the lack of inhibition and
chattiness.
Beta-nol's going on my shopping list.
Lor, how much and what kind of nol do you use, and where do
you apply it? What you said about conversation piqued my interest. I hadn't even thought about it, but it may
explain some things.
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