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cvrw6
04-14-2006, 12:41 PM
Has anyone from

the UK in this forum every tried one of these:

Pheromone X - none product
Endurance pheromone

spray -copulins
Attractant spray - ?

how do you rate them?

chas
04-14-2006, 03:02 PM
I've got 'Endurance'. It has an

unusual smell & I don't like wearing it for this reason. I don't know if it works however.
Pheromone X &

Attractant sound good from their adverts... 'Yes!' spray seems to work OK.

slick
04-14-2006, 03:55 PM
pheromone x was the first product

i ever tried, contains none and nol. It worked for me pretty good especiall when mixed with Bruce's products

cvrw6
04-14-2006, 05:33 PM
Slick - How do you know Pheromone

X is none and nol - it only says none on the bottle I have got?

Also, I do not know whther I got a hit from

Pheromone X and Endurance together - I am 6 foot, 19 stone, hakf italian, white with black eyes and hair and play

rugby and ride superbike - guys in UK like this definately intimidate girls already. However, I went to a restaurant

tonight for a family birthday party and six girls at a table stared at me every time I got up and went past, and

when coming back.

Do any UK forum users know how concentrated these products are?

bronzie
04-14-2006, 05:41 PM
The best product to come out of

the UK is the old xcite wipes by the company Kiotech. The company that employed the prominant scientist that

developed xcite wipes has moved on and formed a new company and a new pheromone brand. Kiotech as far as I

understood was based in London, but now its research and products and pheromones are not for human senses but for

animals.

Dr. George Dodd is the inventor of pheromones as far as I understand, he isolated them and you could

say discovered them. His company runs out of the Scottish highlands, its product is called Pherofragrance, and is

exactly the same thing as the old xcite wipes except in liquid form, same scent in fact. A few UK sites offer this

product, but there is one web site in particular that is run by Dr Dodd that sells his product directly from him,

and at a slightly cheaper cost to the consumer. aromasciences.com

For me his product surpases all that I have

tried, in effectivness, quality of scent and just sheer reliability. I often use the products that love-scent sells

with pherofragrance and get great results, dont get me wrong love-scent sells great products and stocks what is out

in the market, and it puts a big emphasis on trials and experimentation of new and different .mones but for some

reason doesnt sell all the products available. Probably out of logistical reasons that would be impossible as so

many brands exist, most of them very dodgy.

I also use Pherofragrance stand alone and its proven itself as a

product worthy of my loyalty.

slick
04-15-2006, 12:46 AM
sorry mate, late night its factor

x i mean't, got it mixed up, anyone very tried that?

cvrw6
04-15-2006, 04:35 AM
cheers both

cvrw6
04-15-2006, 04:56 AM
Bronzie - looked at website, do

you think it would be wise to buy both female and male fragrances and test mixing them?

bronzie
04-15-2006, 07:11 AM
cvrw6, thats a interesting

question, i think it would be a good idea to experiment, ive never tried that, as i have only the mens bottle

version and only buy those, but i do recall once using both the mens excite wipes and the female excite wipes at the

same time and gave me very interesting results, i did get a hit!, but since i only had 1 sample of the fem excite

wipe, i never tried that again to find out more of how effective that mix would be?

yeah i think that would

be a good idea, i might try that too come to think of it, report back the effects if u do, as i will...just one word

of warning, the fem version, its scent is feminine, but the male version will cover it up as its a more masculine

woody scent.

what i found interesting about DR Dodds pherofragrance is that he is an expert in perfumery, and

he actually created a scent around a pheromone to compliment the ingredients, and not a pheromone around a scent.



you will also find that he wont disclose what is in his product, ive tried asking him this directly and said

its a trade secret, which is fair enough i guess. but i once read there are many different types of pheromones in

his product, ones that we have not heard of, remember this guy is DR. and a specialist in this field, and who knows

what chemicals he has been working on. All i can gather from the scent, there is no cat piss smell that .none has, i

dont know if he has refined that pheromone to a point that it has no smell or that its not in the product or if its

been covered up really well, but regardless this product is A-class. My opnion the best on the market, second comes

Primal Instinct. Ive had many DIHL using these 2 products together.

cvrw6
04-23-2006, 03:17 AM
Can anyone comment on the Yes

pheromone product in the UK?

How strong is it? How much do you put on for you natural mone production? Is it

none contained in the product?

chas
04-23-2006, 03:52 AM
Some answers : 'none

is in Yes!; the adverts claim that it is a strong dose but I haven't seen any figures quoted; it smells of talc so

I imagine that it smells nice to women; probably a couple of sprays would be enough for an effect. A product from

California that it worth a try. It is unlikely to be as strong as some of the other pheromone sprays on the market

but it might be effective due to its fresh clean smell.
Hope this helps.

oscar
04-23-2006, 04:15 AM
Can anyone comment on

the Yes pheromone product in the UK?

How strong is it? How much do you put on for you natural mone production?

Is it none contained in the product?

cvrw6,

The "Yes" product that you're asking about, might it be

the same one available here? (http://love-scent.com/product_info.php?ref=66&products_id=44)

Oscar

:)

woofa1
04-24-2006, 12:35 AM
Bronzie i agree

entirely with your summation of Dr. Dodd product. It is reliable your knowing your getting a tried and tested

product, by the looking at the man himself and what he has done in this industry.

It is rather a nol product,

and mixing with products like pi, and npa,Have given me good hits. The smell is sandlewood in nature and hence not

intimidating to our fellow human beings.

"knowledge and the capacity to impart it to others without prejudice

one of the keys to enriching ones soul" tha ta poume soon

cvrw6
04-24-2006, 03:27 AM
Bronzie - I bought the male

pherofragrance and it has a tiny hole at the top of the bottle and you cannot squeeze the bottle.

Do you know

how long to let it drop out or how much to put on - are you meant to be able to smell the sandlewood in it strongly

once applied?

bronzie
04-26-2006, 03:02 PM
cvrw6, congrats, you have in

your possession a great product!

yeah, the bottle is alumimum metal, and the tiny hole at the top is very

tiny, what i tend to do, is buy 2 bottles and put them in my large atomizer and just spray

but in the past i

have used the product straight from the bottle, the trick is that you apply enough product that the sandlewwod scent

is very much evident, so not drowning yourself in it , but enough that there is about a 1 metre radius that a person

can pick up the scent, that will take about 3-4 drops.

another little trick is to add these drops on some

very fine lint free lense cleaning paper, its extremely fine material and will not absorb the liquid very much, then

with that smeer your face and upper body and underarms with the .mone contaminated paper, keep the paper in your

pocket and take out when you feel you need to rub your face and skin

woofa1
04-26-2006, 10:14 PM
I have also purchased

this product. It is bassically all nol. A nice sandlewood smell, to it. Good for a base , try mixing with none

product. Like PI, or Npa for the capacity to get sexual hits. If that is your genere. But can be used as a stand

alone product, if you have the alpha type personality entrenched. :kiss: . Good luck :wave:

remy
04-27-2006, 02:10 AM
ok bronzie i dont have some nol

with my ae and my npa, so i visited your site in scotland and i purchased the pherofragrance..i will give my opinion

coming soon..

cvrw6
04-27-2006, 04:43 AM
I bought the male and female

versions and put them both in a spray bottle.

I did this because I am the Lone Wolf and Clint Eastwood combined

and then some (and intense black eyes :twisted: ).

I will report back on my business/social/female hits

experiments.

I will add some none if I get people talking to me too much, which is boring.

remy
05-03-2006, 09:07 AM
no news cvr? i ' waiting t my

bottle for my part...

bronzie
05-04-2006, 03:18 PM
Dr. Dodd, the

father of modern pheromone attraction technology! In 1974, for the first time in history, Dr. Dodd isolated and

identified in human sweat, the pheromone alpha-androstenol, Here is what he has to say about Excite! Pheromone Wipes

: "Excite! Pheromone Wipes give users a definite boost in desireability and is very safe."

This may

have a double meaning, but when the article states that the product is very safe, does it do so on the premise

that,the product will not create adverse side effects on human physiologically, or that because the product

probably contains .nol which is known for its low non-aggressivness, approachability type reaction is deemed to be

safe in a social setting.

Im trying to deciper this, I enjoy how these writers who are often outsoursed and

have no real knowledge about pheromones, must come up with a marketing strategy to cover thier employers butts, if

any legal issues ever arise.

woofa1
05-04-2006, 05:31 PM
Mmmm, Dr

Dodd, Is indeed the founder.:drunk:The man has over 25 years experience. He is science within science. Then again

his product is nol based. Very good reputation.

"Imparting knowledge without predujice, enriches one soul"

remy
05-05-2006, 09:36 AM
ok i have received my

pherofragrance...great the smell is good (fruits) but not extraordinary like chika or soe...a lot of nol i

suppose...a good base i presume to mix with npa or ae...i will try very soon the mix...

bronzie
05-05-2006, 09:47 AM
remy, the scent is a musky

sandlewood, personaly, its the best scent I have come across in a pheromone product by far, the manufacturer is not

only a expert in Pheromones as he discovered them in the first place nearly 30 years ago, but a world renouned

perfumer! hope this product works for you! Yeah your right, its a very good base pheromone that should be mixed with

some other products when you want greater sexual hits. Otherwise its a great product stand alone when you dont want

the risk of intimidating anyone with .none use or .rone use.

cvrw6
05-05-2006, 09:59 AM
I have been testing

the male and female version together for my first week of work but I do not know if it has had an effect - I work

with 90% males (most older 35-55), the office is a spaced out single floor and people react differently to you for

the first week.

I would say I did alot of socialising during work but I do not know if this is normal for the

office.

I will try the pherofragance next week to see if it works around females - I will talk to and approach

females more, especially the mardy admin lady you usually get in any office!

bronzie
05-05-2006, 12:49 PM
I have been testing

the male and female version together for my first week of work but I do not know if it has had an effect - I work

with 90% males (most older 35-55), the office is a spaced out single floor and people react differently to you for

the first week.

I would say I did alot of socialising during work but I do not know if this is normal for

the office.

I will try the pherofragance next week to see if it works around females - I will talk to and

approach females more, especially the mardy admin lady you usually get in any office!

Unless im going

for a promotion, a job interview or want to sell something, I would not wear pheromones around males, I dont see the

point (unless one is gay ofcourse), and around my male friends I dont wear pheromones either, I dont need to impress

them and dont want to intimidate them, and long term male buddies know your signiture and personality anyway and you

really cant be fake around them, they will know it instantly, so I dont see why someone would wear .mones around

thier male friends or even around co workers for that.

But if it makes you feel empowered, I guess that could

be a reason to wear them at work.

But women are a totally different ball game! Because I know mones work and

are effective im also very selective where I wear them and around whom.

cvrw6
05-05-2006, 01:08 PM
I have started to

wear them because I wanted to wear something to be professional, and scented pheromones products have an added

advantage over wearing a normal cologne.

Being perceived socialble with nol, and working clever can get you

ahead quickly.

I reckon mones have contributed to me becoming a project manager at my new job even though i am a

starting graduate - this is a good acheivement in the UK.

bronzie
05-05-2006, 01:08 PM
He is science

within science.

Woofa, I agree, he is a Dr. Spock of the pheromone world. Its scent Jim but not as we

know it.

bronzie
05-05-2006, 01:20 PM
cvrw6, I understand your point,

I wore them once at an interview, the interview was 3 hours long of hard grilling by a very high nose English

University Lecturer and selection officer. It got me into Cambridge University in England, I made it through with

another 12 students for the course and 100 were rejected at the interview stage. Although I did talk s*hit and sold

myself at the interview for the Uni place I personaly didnt think I deserved to be given special treatment as my

performance was not that good in hindsight, (maybe im being hard on myself) but I wore huge amounts of SOE,

basically bathed myself in it before entering his room.

bronzie
05-05-2006, 02:39 PM
Beware of Xcite wipe fakes on

the internet as I know they have been circulating. I am not sure if this is a fake, however, it does not resemble

the original Xcite wipes that were available a few years ago from Kiotech. The original authentic wipes look exactly

what LS is selling in the female version. Except male version had Blue colored letters.

Also, the website

description mummbles on the whole notion of pheromones and the

product.


http://www.jambell.com/Xcite/

remy
05-05-2006, 07:20 PM
bronzie,

whats your personnal

mix with pherofragrance? i have some npa and ae. may be one drop of npa and 4 drops of phero...no offense but true

its just personnal i like the smell of pherofragrance but my god i love the smell of chikara my god this product is

a dream!

bronzie
05-06-2006, 01:38 PM
remy, i would use 2 drops of npa

and 4-5 drops of phero, both are alcohol based and you dont have to worry if they mix, i stress though use enough

phero to cover the npa, 1-2 meter radius of scent release

if you use in conjuction wirh ae, use 1 drop npa, 2

drops ae, 4 drops phero, i have had a DIHL with that ratio, its very balanced with slight sexual overtones if the

girl is in the right mood for it, at best you will get a sexual hit, at worst, very chatty

word of warning,

this mix will convey dominance around males, and the reaction might turn negative if they feel intimidated and if

they are naturaly alpha males to begin with, if they are not you will see alot of yes sir yes sir type responses, it

has happened to me, its the .none thing playing its part.

remy
05-09-2006, 01:17 AM
ok bronzie thanks again for your

advice..i have tried and its good for me..i like the first combo 2 drops of npa with 5 drops of phero : good

balance, good sensation...npa is really alpha my girlfriend told me : awesome virility when i wear npa...

woofa1
05-14-2006, 04:09 AM
True true bronzie.

But anyway have you heard any news on the alpha7. Field tests?



Quick analysis of following products done through field test are as follows. I AM ALPHA MALE

BY THE WAY.

NPA, SOE - good mix, 1-2 drops NPA ,

4-5 inches soe. Not too bad for bars and clubs. Adding a little chikara ands that exoticness and mystery. Not for

the faintherted though.

ALTER EGO 2 DROPS AND .5

TO 1 DROP OF PI, COVERED WITH COVER SCENT - i FEEL THIS MIX IS FOR THE OLDER ONES, ANYWAY THAT IT HOW IT HAS WORKED

FOR ME.

ALTER ego on its own - Great for work as

Males are more respecting of you .Females much more talkative, great if your good with kino. Soe similiar but found

i have to add a lot more of it 6-7 dabs of bottle seems ok.




Impi -on its own not many hits all, used in

conjuction with Npa, has on a few occasions opened the females. ie laughing etc. Again, used with kino, cocky and

funny can be damaging.

Any evaluations on A1, i

hear it supposed to elicit a calming effect? Have used in conjuction with Npa and soe .But then hard to tell what

effect if any it has on the girlys.

Has anyone

experimented with perception? Any field test?

"

imparting knowledge without prejudice enriches one soul'

bronzie
05-15-2006, 12:16 PM
Hi Woofa, the ratios you give

for the pheromones are pretty much was I use as a yard stick. I have tried everything from this site, well nearly

everything, exept IMPI which has luke warm feedback from forum members, will buy it, however after many years of

phero use, I think evolution must take its course and might invest in a chemitry set of some sort to play around

with.
You will only find A1 in Pheromax if ypour looking for it in combination with other .mones otherwise you will

need to buy a vial that contains A1 solely from love scent.
As for the results from pheromax, very interesting, I

wore it just last week and my date started to cramp up in the car on the way to the resturant, her stomach cramps

got that bad that i offered i take her either back home or to a hospital. Mind you she was not on her period, which

makes things more mysterious.

What I have discovered is this , if your on a date and the girl does not dig you

for whatever reason, and you wear pheromones, you will experience responses like this. You could say its a defensive

mechanism, they are attracted to you via the .mones, however conciously they dont want to be, hence these responses.



this girl, was merely a fun type girl in the past and it was very plutonic on the date, obviously she couldnt

exept my sexual invitation because of the .mones and she cramped up.

i would like to know if any of you guys

have had similar experiances?

Visionary7903
05-16-2006, 01:31 AM
What I

have discovered is this , if your on a date and the girl does not dig you for whatever reason, and you wear

pheromones, you will experience responses like this. You could say its a defensive mechanism, they are attracted to

you via the .mones, however conciously they dont want to be, hence these responses.

Yea I agree with

you bronzie. I think it has to do with the -None - it attracts them but at the same time scares them away if worn

too early. For me -None stops the rapport from developing if worn too early. Of course there are exceptions who can

still develop great rapport even with plenty of -None (Gegogi?).

Maybe one should wear a masculine product with

little -None on the first date (A314) along with -Nol, A1 , etc and maybe up the -None later when it is time for

things to 'heat up'...

Visionary

chas
05-20-2006, 03:52 PM
I've read alot of posts about

Pherofragrance having a great smell but does it appeal to & attract women without using another product? If so, is

this because of its smell or 'mone content? Thanks.

woofa1
05-20-2006, 10:20 PM
pHEROFRAGRANCE HAS LITTLE IF

ANY NONE/ RONE. NEARLY ALL NOL.

CHEERS

mozart134
05-21-2006, 01:57 PM
I brought the

Attractant spray ,the other day,naturally it boasts of using approximately 3mg of 5-Alpha-Androst-16-En-3-One

Androstenone per 100ml bottle is this alot?
it recommends of spraying it on clothes (3-4 sprays)and not on the

skin,saying that androstenone is unstable on the skin is this true?,the contents are none,water and isopropanol.



So, i mixed it with 2 sprays of chikara (neckX1 and wristsX1 rubbed together)i placed 1 spray of attractant on my

clothes near the collar,i only used it yesterday, the first time at work,my work friends seemed more friendly,even

the person who i dont seem to get on with,smiled at me and seemed more chilled out.

Im going to try this combo

again on tuesday with a girl i flirt with at work(only friendly,but dont tell my G/F.LOL)hopefully the wonders of

the chikara scent will get her olfactory senses racing,she told me she loves a good scent on men,and since ive never

worn any scent,it'll be intresting to see any changes with it on,i'll be posting next week on any reponses when i

get back to work.:type:

Regards Mozart134

bolounit
05-22-2006, 07:09 PM
Some answers : 'none is in Yes!; the adverts claim that it is a strong dose but I

haven't seen any figures quoted; it smells of talc so I imagine that it smells nice to women; probably a couple of

sprays would be enough for an effect. A product from California that it worth a try. It is unlikely to be as strong

as some of the other pheromone sprays on the market but it might be effective due to its fresh clean smell.
Hope

this helps. Is the yes product the same one available here ?

bronzie
05-26-2006, 03:05 PM
I've read alot of

posts about Pherofragrance having a great smell but does it appeal to & attract women without using another product?

If so, is this because of its smell or 'mone content? Thanks.


chas, i use pherofragrance alone

and have had great results, the smell is very nice, ive been complimented on it many times from girls i have just

met, but i presume the pheromones contained within are playing a role here with the compliments, women are much more

relaxed around you, its not a sexual .mone, so if you want that effect, you need to add some other products, but

used alone its fine, just depends on your aim and who you want to attract

chas
05-29-2006, 01:38 PM
Bronzie, Thanks for your comments.

Why isn't Pherofragrance a sexual .mone? I suppose I really wanted one for that purpose ;) I don't really want one

that just smells nice to women. I would have expected that Dr.Dodd had wanted to include the sexual hit element in

his mixture of pheromones??
Different subject - but I have experimented with applying sandalwood & vanilla aromas

(as they appeal to women) using artificial perfume concentrates which are very cheap. It is interesting to try the

different aromas & they can be used together with pheromones. I have also tried applying sandalwood essential oil

(must be already diluted in an aromatherapy carrier oil) but the artificial perfume concentrate smelt more as you

would expect it ! Unless others have mentioned this subject elsewhere in this forum I think that this is worthy of

experimentation to try the different aromas & 'put a layer' on top of the LS pheromone products.

chas
05-29-2006, 01:53 PM
I forgot to mention that I also got

some Middle Eastern deer musk oil fragrance for men (in lieu of Cronks hunting deer lure - see monesrule's

adventurous posts ) which I couldn't find on-line in the UK). Very interesting aroma but intense perfumed. OK when

disguised with another cologne. I don't know what makes it perfumed but I think that it maybe a Middle Eastern

style (Muslim??) I have seen some on Google in Singapore with free 'rest of world' shipping. I don't know if I am

going to alienate people or attract them ...