Just got my order!

[AdrenaIine]

I am about to go

out to the bars or a party here in a sec and I received my order:

Newbie Pack : Mixed TE and the oils as

suggested into the atomizer. I also ordered NPA (I am going to get SoE later).. Also got gel packs of Perception,

Chikara, AE, and TE(my SoE gel pack busted up and left a pretty rank odor:frustrate )

So I am open to

suggestions on what to do try out tonight. I was thinking half gel packet of chikara on the wrists and neck covered

by 2 sprays of the TE mix??? .. Covered lightly by my cologne. Let me know if you have any other suggestions.



On first impression, I thought the TE(unscented) smelled like 151(alcohol). But mixed with the oils, it was

pleasant. I haven't opened the NPA yet, unless any suggestions say I should try that out first. So I may not get a

response before I leave in an hour or 2 but it would be appreciated! :wave:

[Fripi]

Hi i'm also a newbie, I received

my pack this week (TE, NPA, Chikara) and I usualy don't put any parfume, cologne... ex girl friends always said

that I smell good, proper, nice, sweet so I didn't need that.

I read the forum since 3 weeks now and I tried

some mixes as I had some occasions to test: a dinner with a friend (girl), I had a party at a club where I had to go

with 2 hot ladies, and a wedding today...

I'm 27 old, 182 cm (71,6 inch) tall, 80kg (176pounds), white

european, almost beardless, very few body hair in general.

First day:
- 1 spray of TE on wrist
- 1 tab of NPA

on neck
- 1 spray of chikara on troath
>> result: nothing at all, at a moment I just asked to the girl (27old)

what she tought about my parfume, she came closer to my neck and just found it a nice smell... (NPA+hikara)



Second day:
- 2 sprays of TE, 1 on each wrist
- 1 drop NPA on neck
- 2 sprays of chikara on neck
>> result:

nothing, the 2 ladies (22 old) were as usual, they're usually already close and touchy, this time nothing more, as

usual and I seemed invisible to all other girls in the club. I was just quicker served when I was at the bar (more

respect?)

Third day:
- 4 sprays of TE on arms
- 2 drops NPA, 1 on each side of neck
- 3 sprays of chikara on

neck
>> result: nothing, at the wedding all girls (from 27 to 40 old) were polite but none came to talk, none

looked at me specially, none was touchy, none danced closer to me, nothing!

So I'm a little bit frustrated I

must admit, as I read here chinese guys have to use more to produce some effect generally, but I'm not, I'm a

white caucasian, not bad looking I think, just normal, classic.

I just want something to help me have contact,

to socialise easier, maybe to interest girls easier. I know that there's nothing magic that can help me but 4

sprays of TE, 2 drops NPA, 3 sprays of chikara seems already much no? and no result, nothing negative, nothing

positive, everything just as usual...

Have I to continue adding drops and sprays to my test?

[Gegogi]

Fripi it appears you may have

overdone your doseages of TE and NPA. You certainly shouldn't combine the 2 as they're the same thing save

dilution.

Avoid a pheromone buffet. For many users the result is indifference at best and fear or hostility

at the worse. It's better to use one product at a time, taking time to observe the effects so you can adjust

doseage. One or two sprays of a single product is where you should start.

SOE is the best place to start if

you want to enhance your social life. TE and NPA produce more of a dangerous alpha male vibe, especially for young

white males, so it must be used sparingly and with intelligence.

With that said, I'm one of those

'none-less Asians that can pour on NPA or TE to little or no ill effect. It makes women horny and grap at me. Of

course I'm talking the talk and walking the walk. I'm not passive about it. Ironically, I'm just trying to

experience what you lucky anglo studs have naturally!

[Fripi]

Well I don't know what I really

have naturaly :D As my hormonal structure seems to be not to masculin (hairless, skin smoother than those of my ex

girlfriend... what alweys frustrated her)
In fact I've read a lot on this forum, the first day the NPA tab was

more a mistake by trying to smell it :D the excitement of the first package.

I had read that too much could

produce hostility but I didn't knew it could produce indifference.

The funny thing is that npa on my neck alone

aparently gives a smell of parfume, I asked a girlfriend to smell and tell me, she didn't smell the TE on my wrist

but said I had a nice cologne on my neck (pure NPA) :D that's nice and easy.

Ok Il try NPA or TE alone, I

noticed that TE fades quicklier away than NPA, and Chikara smells for me like Jean-paul Gaultier "le male"

parfume.

Thanks

[Gegogi]

Just because you ain't a furry

Neanderthal doesn't mean you aren't masculine and 'none soaked. I've seen some really buff 'n macho Korean,

Pacific Islander, Indian and Black men with smooth skin and little hair compared to most Europeans. The testosterone

literally dripped from their rippled 'n hairless bodies. Having more body hair merely means your ancestors evolved

in colder climates, not that you're a he-man.

[Mick]

Hi i'm also a newbie,

I received my pack this week (TE, NPA, Chikara) and I usualy don't put any parfume, cologne... ex girl friends

always said that I smell good, proper, nice, sweet so I didn't need that.

I read the forum since 3 weeks now

and I tried some mixes as I had some occasions to test: a dinner with a friend (girl), I had a party at a club where

I had to go with 2 hot ladies, and a wedding today...

I'm 27 old, 182 cm (71,6 inch) tall, 80kg (176pounds),

white european, almost beardless, very few body hair in general.

First day:
- 1 spray of TE on wrist
- 1 tab

of NPA on neck
- 1 spray of chikara on troath
>> result: nothing at all, at a moment I just asked to the girl

(27old) what she tought about my parfume, she came closer to my neck and just found it a nice smell...

(NPA+hikara)

Second day:
- 2 sprays of TE, 1 on each wrist
- 1 drop NPA on neck
- 2 sprays of chikara on

neck
>> result: nothing, the 2 ladies (22 old) were as usual, they're usually already close and touchy, this time

nothing more, as usual and I seemed invisible to all other girls in the club. I was just quicker served when I

was at the bar (more respect?)

Third day:
- 4 sprays of TE on arms
- 2 drops NPA, 1 on each side of

neck
- 3 sprays of chikara on neck
>> result: nothing, at the wedding all girls (from 27 to 40 old) were polite

but none came to talk, none looked at me specially, none was touchy, none danced closer to me, nothing!

So I'm

a little bit frustrated I must admit, as I read here chinese guys have to use more to produce some effect generally,

but I'm not, I'm a white caucasian, not bad looking I think, just normal, classic.

I just want something to

help me have contact, to socialise easier, maybe to interest girls easier. I know that there's nothing magic that

can help me but 4 sprays of TE, 2 drops NPA, 3 sprays of chikara seems already much no? and no result, nothing

negative, nothing positive, everything just as usual...

Have I to continue adding drops and sprays to my

test?
IMO this is a hit :thumbsup: i've had more service than usual @ the bar while wearing

Chikara:cheers:

[AdrenaIine]

Yeah, I'm having trouble

predicting how much pheromone I naturally produce. I am about 160 at 5'8-5'9 and am skinny, but athletic. But I

hear from girls all the time "Oh you must be an athlete.." or "You play sports.." But to me I actually feel skinny,

and not too athletic. I've always managed to get my fair share of girls, but wanted a boost kick, since I get bored

easily. But trying to figure out my own body chemistry is hard since I feel differently then the girls.

[AdrenaIine]

BTW... I am not sure if any

of this is out of the ordinary, but I pretty sure I received some hits. No clue if it was the mones or not but I did

get quite a lot of eye contact/attention from a few females. Of course I enjoyed it, but further experiments will

come.

[Fripi]

thanks for your help and comments,

it took me time to subscribe to the forum as I had nothing to test but it's a really nice community, open minded,

helpfull... cool :thumbsup:
and I hope my english isn't too difficult to understand sometimes :)

[Fripi]

Today only got 1 spray chikara on

wrist and 2 in neck >> still nothing at all, every morning I take the train, then subway, cross a lot of people and

I work in a part of my city where there are a lot of girls as it's a cloth shopping area... but nothing till now

with my tests :(

[blkgost]

true scientific testing? I mean if you wear a mix one day only and then switch up, you have no way of knowing if

it worked. Trust me I did the same thing. I was wisely advised to find a mix and stick with it for about a week

and see what happens. You have to consider there are so many other factors that contribute or take away to/from the

effects of the mones. I mean not all women will be as sensitive to them as others, so in a lot of cases its right

place at the right time. But try a mix for longer than a day, and make notes......

-Gost

[Fripi]

OK i'll follow all your

guidelines, so i'll try the same mix for some weeks (1 spray TE/musc + 2 chikara)

One more question, we always

say that there's a rest of mones even after bath, wath about the sauna, today a went to the gym and after sport I

took a sauna for 15min, doesn't that "kill" mones?

[blkgost]

yes heat does make the pheromones

in-active. Just reapply.

Gost

[AdrenaIine]

I've worn TE+Musk, about 2

sprays on each occasion and haven't seen much out of the ordinary. A few hits here and there, but not more than I

usually get. I am going to give it another week and then try out my NPA w/ SoE (when I order it) in a week or 2.

[Fripi]

still 1 spray te + 2 chikara, went

to a "trendy" bar yesterday with a girlfriend, noticed nothing at all, bar was full :sad:

[Fripi]

I wanted to test something else

yesterday, yes I know I have to make some longer tests... but sometimes I envy those who got hits at each

application :D

I used 1 pack gel chikara over arms and chest + 1 tab of NPA in neck + JP Gaultier Male cologne

over it.

Went to a bar not very big but very full of people of different ages from 17 to 40...

Still nothing

at all, 3 persons I was with were as usual and some persons I knew came in and were also as usual...

As others

already said here I prefere an "agressive" OD reaction to nothing, just to know that it has some effect and that I

have to minimise the doses.

Until now all I've tried gave nothing at all, in the past I received more smiles

while wearing phelure which seems to be a scam:frustrate but a smile giving scam...

The good thing is that I

love the scent of chikara.

[AdrenaIine]

The hard part for me is

trying to distinguish a 'real' hit. It seems I am getting the same amount of hits as usual - I mean I hooked up

with a girl last night, but I'm not sure if 'mones helped at all since I had previously known her. So it's all

very hard to tell if I am actually getting hits that are out of the ordinary.

[Fripi]

I hooked nothin up since 3 months

so I've nothing to distinguish :D
Tonight I'm going out again, girls it was my birtday last week please give me

hits :box:

[Mick]

I wanted to test

something else yesterday, yes I know I have to make some longer tests... but sometimes I envy those who got hits at

each application :D

I used 1 pack gel chikara over arms and chest + 1 tab of NPA in neck + JP Gaultier Male

cologne over it.

Went to a bar not very big but very full of people of different ages from 17 to

40...

Still nothing at all, 3 persons I was with were as usual and some persons I knew came in and were

also as usual...

As others already said here I prefere an "agressive" OD reaction to nothing, just to know that

it has some effect and that I have to minimise the doses.

Until now all I've tried gave nothing at all, in the

past I received more smiles while wearing phelure which seems to be a scam:frustrate but a smile giving scam...



The good thing is that I love the scent of chikara.

There were people there 17 years old?!! :blink:

where i'm from you gotta be 18 or more to get in & in other countries i've heard it be 21

Where do you live?

[Mick]

The hard part for

me is trying to distinguish a 'real' hit. It seems I am getting the same amount of hits as usual - I mean I hooked

up with a girl last night, but I'm not sure if 'mones helped at all since I had previously known

her. So it's all very hard to tell if I am actually getting hits that are out of the ordinary.



was she into you before the mones? if not it was the mones :angel:

[Fripi]

I'm from belgium, and to go in a

bar there's the official age to order alcohol that's 18, but everybody 's cool here, so there can be people of

16-17 hanging around before midnight...
For the clubc you must be 18, but again, they're very cool with girls...

it's not rare to see girls of 16 in clubs...