View Full Version : What should one do if even the slightest dose of mones cause OD? Negative reactions?
Johnny Mnemonic
01-29-2006, 10:20 PM
I'm beginning to think that even the smallest
dose of NPA
and Chikara cause me to OD.
Does this mean that I don't need to use mones?
Are my own pheromone levels that
strong?
I seem to have a defensive reaction from women lately
while using mones as compared to not using
mones.
I get hits without using mones.
While wearing mones some of the time women I've approached
and began
to converse with, just out of the blue they
"Claim" to have a boyfriend within the first 5-20 seconds.
When I
don't wear mones, I don't get this reaction, and women
seem to be friendlier and more accepting to my approach
without
the mones.
What are your out takes on this? Please forgive me as I'm new to
this whole scene and
just want to know if others are experiencing
what I am.
Thanks so much for your time.
Gegogi
01-30-2006, 01:54 AM
Sounds like you're bangin' on
the wrong drum, i.e., probably don't need 'none base products because of your age, body chemsitry and/or persona.
NPA is know to make younger women nervous and uncomfortable at first, especially if you naturally produce plenty of
'none, are imposing or are a lone wolf type. You should try something with lots of 'nol, e.g., SOE. On the other
hand, if you don't need any 'mones, go commando.
Johnny Mnemonic
01-30-2006, 02:17 PM
Sounds
like you're bangin' on the wrong drum, i.e., probably don't need 'none base products because of your age, body
chemsitry and/or persona. NPA is know to make younger women nervous and uncomfortable at first, especially if you
naturally produce plenty of 'none, are imposing or are a lone wolf type. You should try something with lots of
'nol, e.g., SOE. On the other hand, if you don't need any 'mones, go commando.
I appreciate the time
you took to answer. Forgive me as I don't know all the definitions, but when I go to the product site, what is the
full name of SOE when I type into search?
What is NOL versus mones and how do they differ? Please forgive me but
I know only basics here.
Would someone who naturally has high testosterone levels produce more than enough
mones? How exactly does it work?
I don't want to completely give up the phermone.
Thanks again for your
time it's appreciated.
Mtnjim
01-30-2006, 02:22 PM
Look
Here (http://pherolibrary.com/reference/abbreviations.htm)! :type:
And
Here (http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/pheromone.htm)!:wave:
Johnny Mnemonic
01-30-2006, 09:08 PM
Look
Here (http://pherolibrary.com/reference/abbreviations.htm)! :type:
And
Here (http://pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/pheromone.htm)!:wave:
Thanks for the info.
What's your opinion on my situation
using mones? Do you think I should try SOE instead? Is it
required to mix
SOE?
Thanks
Sigma
01-30-2006, 09:20 PM
How old are you and what is your
ethnicity? Sounds to me like your body might produce an inherently high level of none (age and ethnicity play a big
role in that), and NPA might be an overkill for you.
Pheromones should be used to complement your natural
characterstics and pheromones signiature, not necessarily to enhance them. If you feel like you're lacking a
sexual or aggressive edge, none and rone products are the way to go. If women seem to act guarded or show signs of
insecurity around you, pick up on the nol based products and maybe some A1. The tricky part about first getting
into mones (for me at least), is understanding your own pheromone signiature and other personal characteristics, and
finding out how your body reacts to different types of pheromones. However, once you have a good grasp of how
different pheromones work for you, you can better tailor their use.
Truthfully, the only way to come to
understand how your body reacts to pheromones (and use them more effectively) is to experiment. While having OD
experiences can be damaging for a number of reasons, they do give you a better idea of how your body reacts to
pheromones. So now you at least know that NPA is too much none for you, and that you should focus on other
products.
That being said, if you feel like women get overly defensive around you, definately try using something
like SOE - it works great at lowering social barriers between people, and should lower their defensive nature, even
while you're wearing npa. WAGG and A1 are also two great comfort type products that I'd recommend looking into as
well.
Anyway, good luck with the mones, and keep at it.
Johnny Mnemonic
01-31-2006, 09:26 PM
How old are
you and what is your ethnicity? Sounds to me like your body might produce an inherently high level of none (age and
ethnicity play a big role in that), and NPA might be an overkill for you.
Pheromones should be used to
complement your natural characterstics and pheromones signiature, not necessarily to enhance them. If you feel like
you're lacking a sexual or aggressive edge, none and rone products are the way to go. If women seem to act guarded
or show signs of insecurity around you, pick up on the nol based products and maybe some A1. The tricky part about
first getting into mones (for me at least), is understanding your own pheromone signiature and other personal
characteristics, and finding out how your body reacts to different types of pheromones. However, once you have a
good grasp of how different pheromones work for you, you can better tailor their use.
Truthfully, the only way
to come to understand how your body reacts to pheromones (and use them more effectively) is to experiment. While
having OD experiences can be damaging for a number of reasons, they do give you a better idea of how your body
reacts to pheromones. So now you at least know that NPA is too much none for you, and that you should focus on other
products.
That being said, if you feel like women get overly defensive around you, definately try using
something like SOE - it works great at lowering social barriers between people, and should lower their defensive
nature, even while you're wearing npa. WAGG and A1 are also two great comfort type products that I'd recommend
looking into as well.
Anyway, good luck with the mones, and keep at it.
I'm a 28yr old white male
with Belgium and Irish descent born in Canada.
Could someone with naturally high testoerone levels OD on
NPA/Chikara?
I appreciate your insight as you're not the only one who's recommended SOE.
Can I use it all by
itself?
As for my personality and looks I'm an attractive, tall and muscular guy with an over all well rounded
personality. Includes characteristics such as confident but not cocky, easy going and easy to get along with,
humorous when the time is right, and people open up to me about personal matters and ask for advice. And I don't
f*ck people over or treat women like crap.
There's probably more that I haven't added, but that's a pretty
good start if this helps in your opinions of what to use.
Thanks again
Sigma
01-31-2006, 09:39 PM
I'm a 28yr
old white male with Belgium and Irish descent born in Canada.
Could someone with naturally high testoerone levels
OD on NPA/Chikara?
I appreciate your insight as you're not the only one who's recommended SOE.
Can I use it
all by itself?
As for my personality and looks I'm an attractive, tall and muscular guy with an over all well
rounded personality. Includes characteristics such as confident but not cocky, easy going and easy to get along
with, humorous when the time is right, and people open up to me about personal matters and ask for advice. And I
don't f*ck people over or treat women like crap.
There's probably more that I haven't added, but that's a
pretty good start if this helps in your opinions of what to use.
Thanks again
I don't know if
theres a concrete correlation between testosterone levels and none levels (is there guys?), but I would at least
hypothesize that this were true. Asian people generally have lower testosterone levels, and asian posters here are
reporting that they use more none than other races. The same seems to be reversed for african americans. Again I
don't have the credentials to back that up though...its merely speculation.
Were you OD'ing on Chikara and NPA
individually, or only when you mixed the two? Also how much of each were you applying? I think quite a few people
would OD on a Chikara and NPA mix actually. While I havent had much luck with Chikara, others have found a sexual
punch in the stuff.
Gegogi
01-31-2006, 09:49 PM
Asian people generally
have lower testosterone levels, and asian posters here are reporting that they use more none than other races. The
same seems to be reversed for african americans.
I used to work out with a black GF and she was rippling
with muscles compared to me, although we spent the same amount of time and did similar routines. I bet she had more
testosterone than me and I'm a guy. She certainly smelled like 'none after an hour at the gym. The odd thing is
athletic women tend to be attracted to me, although I'm small and lean and they can usually kick my ass. Maybe a
'none deficiency is a good thing.
Johnny Mnemonic
02-06-2006, 06:05 PM
I used to
work out with a black GF and she was rippling with muscles compared to me, although we spent the same amount of time
and did similar routines. I bet she had more testosterone than me and I'm a guy. She certainly smelled like 'none
after an hour at the gym. The odd thing is athletic women tend to be attracted to me, although I'm small and lean
and they can usually kick my ass. Maybe a 'none deficiency is a good thing.
So does this mean that
people who are into weight lifting and have high testosterone levels, generally produce strong Pheromones? I've
always wondered this.
I'm still thinking of trying SOE instead.
Friendly1
02-06-2006, 09:23 PM
While
wearing mones some of the time women I've approached and began to converse with, just out of the blue they "Claim"
to have a boyfriend within the first 5-20 seconds.
It doesn't sound like the pheromones. However,
how do you behave when you're wearing pheromones versus when you're not? Expectations can cause you to send
subtle cues (call them "vibes") that the pheromones could be enhancing.
"I have a boyfriend" usually means, "Go
away, loser, I want nothing to do with you."
If you don't get that when you're not wearing pheromones, it
could just be that you're acting differently due to expectations.
Sigma
02-07-2006, 12:33 AM
So does
this mean that people who are into weight lifting and have high testosterone levels, generally produce strong
Pheromones? I've always wondered this.
I'm still thinking of trying SOE instead.
I'm wondering
the same thing myself. I work out about 4-5 times a week, and have a pretty good build (5'11 180 lbs 12-15%BF),
but I can wear quite a bit of none. I thought there would be significant changes during periods when I got slammed
by school and didn't have time to go the gym, but I didn't notice anything too differnt mone-wise, even though I
would lose enough mass for others to readily notice. There appears to be some relationship between innate
testosterone levels and innate phero levels....I don't know if theres a direct correlation between the too
though.
Johnny Mnemonic
02-10-2006, 05:35 AM
I'm
wondering the same thing myself. I work out about 4-5 times a week, and have a pretty good build (5'11 180 lbs
12-15%BF), but I can wear quite a bit of none. I thought there would be significant changes during periods when I
got slammed by school and didn't have time to go the gym, but I didn't notice anything too differnt mone-wise,
even though I would lose enough mass for others to readily notice. There appears to be some relationship between
innate testosterone levels and innate phero levels....I don't know if theres a direct correlation between the too
though.
At least you're training now. So you haven't had a problem wearing mones? I'm still tempted
to try SOE but I have to save some dough for it however.
I train only 3 times a week, one muscle group once a
week. I don't want to be in the gym more than that at this point in my life.
One thing that has greatly
elevated my testosterone levels naturally and healthily is Liquid Flax Oil.
Last week's meeting with my coach
was very interesting. We were discussing general issues regarding relationships, exercise and so on. I said
something (I can't remember exactly what it was now) but then she looked down with a big smile and said I was so
cute. She did not mention her "supposed" boy friend once.
It's been now a month that I've stopped wearing my
mones, and I've noticed a much more positive interaction with her including her cute comment which she hasn't said
for a long time during my mone use.
I seriously think that mones are too much for me even at the most minimal
dosage.
Thanks for your opinions, I appreciate them.
MOBLEYC57
02-10-2006, 07:45 AM
At least
you're training now. So you haven't had a problem wearing mones? I'm still tempted to try SOE but I have to save
some dough for it however.
You could take up penny donations. :thumbsup: How long would it take you to
save up, I THINK, about 5 bucks (I forgot, but it could be even less than that) to get the FREE gel packs that's
available every Wednesday, JM? :think:
Just thought I'd show you another way to skin yer chicken! :wave:
Johnny Mnemonic
02-10-2006, 11:11 AM
You
could take up penny donations. :thumbsup: How long would it take you to save up, I THINK, about 5 bucks (I forgot,
but it could be even less than that) to get the FREE gel packs that's available every Wednesday, JM? :think:
Just thought I'd show you another way to skin yer chicken! :wave:
LOL, thanks for the tip. But if
I'm going to be making any purchases, I'd rather buy a full bottle.
I was just curious Mobley, what is your
out take on my experiences and regarding high test levels among individuals and their mone level?
Thanks for
your time.
MOBLEYC57
02-10-2006, 12:39 PM
LOL,
thanks for the tip. But if I'm going to be making any purchases, I'd rather buy a full bottle.
I was just
curious Mobley, what is your out take on my experiences and regarding high test levels among individuals and their
mone level?
Thanks for your time.
Just thought you'd want to at least try the gel before you
invest. Tis alway good to know for yourself.
From your first post, and from reading through the forum over the
years ... I've read that lots of women have responded the same when wearing mones. Girls just out of the blue, tell
men they have a boyfriend, and this was without them showing attraction or interest. MAYBE, to some females, they
get the lets fuck vibe, and MAYBE, just MAYBE, that is what you've experienced. Like someone said, "mones don't
touch all women the same." One may jump you, while the other is/acts unaffected. One combo works on certain people,
and not on others. I say keep wearing your same combo/mone for at least two weeks. Just because you get an OD vibe
from one or two, doesn't mean it you'll get the same from all.
If you're absolutely sure just a touch of
mones is OD territory for you ... SOE/WAGG/A-1 are your only choices. Maybe Chikara solo. Annnnd, MAYBE, just MAYBE,
you could switch from NPA/male to NPA/female (just a thought). :sick:
I'm reserving all rights to be wrong!
:thumbsup:
Friendly1
02-10-2006, 03:48 PM
"I have a boyfriend" is often
just a test to see how much of a man you are.
MOBLEYC57
02-10-2006, 05:29 PM
"I have a
boyfriend" is often just a test to see how much of a man you are.
Annnnd, an answer to that could be ...
"That's okay, I'll still (take you out/sleep with you/kiss you/whatever the situation is for her to say
that) I'm not the jealous type."
Just a thought ... I read that somewhere.:run:
Friendly1
02-10-2006, 11:40 PM
I usually just say, "I don't."
They laugh every time.
"I have a boyfriend."
"I don't." *shrug*
laugh.
Even if she does have a
boyfriend, boyfriends are replaceable if they are not doing their part to be interesting, manly, and romantic. A
lot of girls groom new boyfriends while keeping the old ones around long enough to make a smooth transition.
But
the best thing about "I have a boyfriend" is that she isn't thinking about you "like a friend". It doesn't matter
if she has a Fabio in her life when she says that because she sees you as an aggressive male. It may just mean you
need to tone it down, seem a little less eager, or it may mean you're doing the right thing with the wrong girl.
Sigma
02-11-2006, 11:08 AM
At least
you're training now. So you haven't had a problem wearing mones? I'm still tempted to try SOE but I have to save
some dough for it however.
I train only 3 times a week, one muscle group once a week. I don't want to be in the
gym more than that at this point in my life.
One thing that has greatly elevated my testosterone levels
naturally and healthily is Liquid Flax Oil.
Last week's meeting with my coach was very interesting. We were
discussing general issues regarding relationships, exercise and so on. I said something (I can't remember exactly
what it was now) but then she looked down with a big smile and said I was so cute. She did not mention her
"supposed" boy friend once.
It's been now a month that I've stopped wearing my mones, and I've noticed a much
more positive interaction with her including her cute comment which she hasn't said for a long time during my mone
use.
I seriously think that mones are too much for me even at the most minimal dosage.
Thanks for your
opinions, I appreciate them.
I take these essential fatty acid pills twice a day (borage, flaxseed, and
fish oil), would that boost testosterone too? jw.
Johnny Mnemonic
02-13-2006, 05:19 PM
I take
these essential fatty acid pills twice a day (borage, flaxseed, and fish oil), would that boost testosterone too?
jw.
It probably would.
But if you're taking Flax Oil, I don't think you need the fish oil as it's
basically the same ingredients except the flax has both
omega-3 and omega-6 which men need to make testosterone.
ManBeast
02-14-2006, 08:53 AM
Flax oil caplets really don't
get you enough flax to make a difference with regards to testosterone. The caplets will get you a good amount of
omegas for general health, but the testosterone effect comes in at higher dosages (I believe 1-2 tablespoons of the
raw oil) per day. Getting that kind of dose out of the pills is very very expensive, so if you are looking for that
effect I would definitely go with the raw oil.
MB
Johnny Mnemonic
02-17-2006, 07:25 AM
Flax oil
caplets really don't get you enough flax to make a difference with regards to testosterone. The caplets will get
you a good amount of omegas for general health, but the testosterone effect comes in at higher dosages (I believe
1-2 tablespoons of the raw oil) per day. Getting that kind of dose out of the pills is very very expensive, so if
you are looking for that effect I would definitely go with the raw oil.
MB
I do take the raw oil
about 1.5 table spoons a day. Yes I agree, the gel capsules didn't do much as I was originally taking the gel
capsules. When I switched to the raw oil, man o man I felt like and still do an 18yr old at 28yrs old.
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