Sexual hits attributable to SOE by itself?

[catlord17]

I'm just beginning to test SOE by itself, and I haven't seen a whole lot of difference in how people

respond. It does seem to make people happier and more talkative, but it's not really obvious for me because most f

the people I know are hyper talkative to begin with.

Anyway, I have been going back through and reading about SOE

and I'm just curious, does anyone have any sexual hits or responses that they have had, which were directly

attributable to SOE by itself? If you do, let's hear about them. What I have found on this seems to be a few

years old.

[tim929]

The chatty,scocial hits that I

get from SoE realy depend on what I do with them as to turning sexual or remaining scocial.Once a woman begins to

open up scocialy to you,its an indication that she likes you and is interested.After that,its up to you.I have often

heard people say that SoE is meerly scocial and doesnt have asexual element to it but I am firmly of the oppinion

that this is an incorrect assesment.Game becomes important at this point,the same as if you met a woman and started

a conversation with her in the hopes of using personality alone to get her to like you.

Saddly,as a result of

budgetary constraints,I have only been able to experiment with the SoE gel packs and not the full product.That will

soon be changing however.A-NONE hasnt done a whole lot for me in terms of hits.I have had a few sporadic hits with

NPA,and got some realy nice hits from AE/m but AE includes RONE and NOL,and I suspect thats what I was getting the

hits from...not the NONE.SoE on the other hand has produced consistent hits from people and also serves to elevate

my mood and self perception as well.Yes,the hits with SoE are chatty and friendly...but thats what they should be

anyway.And when a woman starts telling a perfect stranger things about themselves that they wouldnt usualy share

with strangers,its a pretty good indication that she is interested in more than just idle chit chat.Take that and

add some game and you have a date.

In using A-314,I have managed to get a couple of women to take me home with

them and...um...er...uh...well...anyway,RONE has produced results by itself and NONE hasnt.SoE gel packs got my

ex-girlfriend very horny and NPA just pissed her off.This was unfortunatly AFTER we broke up,so the results may or

may not be too terribly valid.But SoE did get me a couple of fairwell performances in a relationship that wasnt all

that sexual in the first place.

For me at least RONE = getting lucky. SoE = probably getting even luckier(more

testing is needed) NONE = who knows what,but its too unpredictable.There is probably a racial/scocial element thrown

in there too,as the serious hits that I got with NPA were from women other than caucasion.There could be something

to that...

[Gegogi]

I think of SOE as clay as it's

to you to mold it into something useful. It enhances your social skills, appearance and persona to get what you

want. If you give out a sexual vibe it makes you a little hotter. If you project brotherly love, well you get

brotherly love. Being more friendly and conversational is the door to anything you want. If you sit there like a

lump, nothing happens. I have tried all of the above and it really is 90% you and 10% 'mones.

As for 'none,

it has given me the strongest and most consistent hits from black women, followed by older women. Intially it repels

or frightens Asians and younger women in general. However if there is attraction they seem to overcome their fears

eventually and things often get unusually sexual fast.

I'm waiting on a bottle of pure 'rone for a little

experimenting.

[catlord17]

tim929, where are you getting

your RONE from? SOE or CS or what?

[bjf]

tim.. people mistake you for a cop,

right? makes sense why none isn't easy for you to work with and why soe is effective for you, and even draws sexual

reactions.

[catlord17]

I'm starting to become very

confused... I am thinking I should avoid NONE, and embrace NOL and RONE, which is why I have been using SOE

lately... but I see very little difference with SOE so far. Meanwhile, what actually DOES produce hits for me,

everyone says can't work! :confused:

[tim929]

I get my RONE from A314.And

yes...I have been mistaken for a cop...more I think because of the way I give directions than anything else.Most of

the time Im very laid back and mellow.Sort of friendly and outgoing.

[Gegogi]

Meanwhile, what actually

DOES produce hits for me, everyone says can't work!
We all produce different amounts and proportions of

pheromones. These 'mones are subject to our personal chemistry, bacterial action, local climate and, of course,

your persona and social customs. So if it works for you, and not Joe Blow, don't sweat it. Keep doing what works.

Why fix it if it ain't broke?

[Pongo]

I have seen some NONE bashing

going on disguised as benign comments as of late, thats ok ~ Ill never be without it again.

[catlord17]

Well today it wasn't SOE by

itself... I was wearing Pherlure, too... and I was getting some very blatant responses, as I usually do from that

combination.

First, I was in the campus library looking for someone to sit near and test my mones on, and I

spotted a very hit young woman with a high powered chest that she was just begging to have noticed. So I sat down

across from her and when she smiled at me, I smiled right back. I caught her giving me the eye a number of times,

and each time I caught her, she smiled, and I smiled right back. Then I ignored her for a little while during which

time I did some experiments I've been wanting to do concerning audio manipulation on my laptop. I noticed she had

headphones on, so when I was almost finished, I stared at her for a moment to get her attention, and when she looked

up, I silently mouthed what I wanted to say, but didn't speak it out loud. This had the immediate effect of

getting her to remove her headphones, of course, and then I asked if she wouldn't mind telling me if this

soundscape sounded three dimensional. This of course was not what she'd been expecting, and piqued her interest,

and that began a conversation. I did not get finished with the manipulations before she had to go, but I got her

talking and comfortable with me enough that she told me she'd come back another day and try to find me to take me

up on that because she "owed me one". This after mentioning she had a boyfriend. I think my complete lack of

response to that was a good thing in her eyes. So there goes Miss High Powered Chest. And dear God, if that blouse

was an inch lower, I'd be staring right into the headlights.

Then I went to Barnes & Nobles to study. Not

smart. It was loud as hell. But I wandered around a bit and settled next to a nice looking blonde girl who was

being tutored by Mister Math Geek. I realized that she was flipping her hair almost immediately, and began to pay

closer attention. Hair flips almost every second for a little while. Caressing her thigh. I thought at first she

was into Math Geek, but then I also noticed she was stealing glances at me. A lot.. . too much to be focusing on

what she was supposed to be doing. The hair flips continue. The caressing continues. Then I realize she's

mirroring me. Wow. Talk about your obvious signs of attraction... if he had gone to the bathroom, I could have had

a date. But she didn't seem to want him to realize she was interested in me, and before I figured out how to move

on the situation, he finished and they left.

So then I read for a bit, waiting for my interview with a model

candidate. She showed up ten minutes early, and immediately I am getting the feeling she's interested. Big

smiles, and she never looks anywhere but into my eyes. I notice she's almost attached, and she's always turned

towards me. She's giving off body language like crazy too... palms up, leaning forward, and mirroring me and she

stares into my eyes and smiles. Then she started touching me... the woman was definitely interested.

I'm

not sure what I was doing right... but whatever it was, it was spot on today. Say what you will about Pherlure, but

SOE and Pherlure is a killer combination. And Pongo, I'm not bashing None, I'm just thinking it's not working

for me.

[Pongo]

thats cool bro find your combo. I

have to lay low on the none myself but DAMN I gotta have it! sooooo much fun :)

[catlord17]

thats cool bro

find your combo. I have to lay low on the none myself but DAMN I gotta have it! sooooo much fun

:)

What kinda fun? :D

[Pongo]

hella fun bro :) spaceland/TE

combo! ring ring?

[catlord17]

lol OK, Rico Suave, what the

hell is spaceland?

[catlord17]

I am concluding that it might

be worth while to try a mixture of NOL and RONE at 1:1 and see what results that gets... that would be my best guess

as to what Pherlure and SOE equates to. Anyone who has these two CS ingredients, could you test this for me and see

what happens? I don't have the moola for that right now.

[catlord17]

Oh, also forgot to mention the

GUY who responded today to this combination... he walked over and greeted me and started talking about the book I

was reading and was very obviously impressed and showing respect. He turned out to be a small business owner also,

and it was partly networking, but not all of it. He was sitting about eight feet from me.

[Gegogi]

SOE has nol and rone in a 3:1 mix

as I recall. I don't have any CS nol (maybe next order) but I plan to test my CS rone with SOE later this week. The

CS stuff is pretty pricy to buy all at once.

[catlord17]

SOE has nol and

rone in a 3:1 mix as I recall. I don't have any CS nol (maybe next order) but I plan to test my CS rone with SOE

later this week. The CS stuff is pretty pricy to buy all at once.

I thought SOE was 4:1 Nol:Rone.

I'm just trying to see if anyone seems to get similar results with a 1:1 mix, since I don't know what's in

Pherlure. I'm guessing Rone.

Anyway, I'm starting to understand how SOE works, and how to take advantage

of that. I like it... the "door opener". Add a little spice and you're off to the races.

[Visionary7903]

SOE (with a ratio of 4:1

ANol:Rone) is probably my favourite product from Love-Scent but I think it has its limitations when used ALONE. I

often got treated as a lightweight arouind the office and some people, even girls, treated me like a wimp. It is

great with younger people (under 25s) and Asian people generally but I find for other groups it is necessary to add

something else to it to give more respect. I mean first impressions are great with this product, but you try wearing

it alone around the same people for a while and you will see what I mean. Even girls don't like a Beta and if you

wear SOE ALONE day in day out you will come across as a supplicator - a cool, great listener, social, fun, and funny

one - but a supplicator none-the-less.

A mone that gives respect added to SOE, however, should work well in

theory. I have tried CS -Rone with SOE and this definitely did not add much to the respect thing. I would think SOE

with LOW doses of Chikara, a -None -heavy product like PI/m, or A314 would work much better. Since I don't do well

with -None either, I am trying the A314 (-Rone with added ingredients to 'improve' its effects)...

Visionary

[Premizen]

I would

think SOE with LOW doses of Chikara, a -None -heavy product like PI/m, or A314 would work much better. Since I

don't do well with -None either, I am trying the A314 (-Rone with added ingredients to 'improve' its

effects)...

Visionary
The Chikara part definitely seems true. Yesterday I wore some SOE (with the

default roll-on bottle, I never actually know how much am I exactly applying, lol) on my neck, 2 drops of A1

(full-strength) on my Adam's apple and covered it with about 2,5 sprays of Chikara. I have not got such hits since

the early summer, when I first started using the pheromones (Chikara at that time)!!

As I usually experiment at

school, the difference was really huge. Several girls just seemed to NEED to touch me. And not only once! By the

way, one of the girls that really enjoyed being around me yesterday and touching me numerous times was by far the

hottest girl in the school, whom I have never talked to before! I actually thought she disliked me and well, I kind

of dislike her too.

So, today I applied the same, except I added a big drop of NPA and covered it with another

spray of Chikara. So that made it about 3-3,5 total sprays of Chikara, which was obviously way too much. Anyway, I

did not get any hits at all, was pretty dizzy all the day and it really made me very cocky. I just could not keep my

mouth shut. Also, even though I applied it about 7 hours ago, I can still smell the scent of Chikara very

well.

So 3 sprays of Chikara is obviously an OD for me. I will try to reduce it to 1,5-2 sprays of Chikara, same

amount of SOE and A1 and add a drop of A314 tomorrow. I would also like to add some -none (NPA), but I have not

found a good dosage for NPA yet - I still need to experiment. But I would like to experience all the attention and

touching again. We will see if it happens tomorrow!

[Pongo]

>>> lol OK, Rico Suave, what the

hell is spaceland?

A phero company brewed up a small batch for "fun" its 50mcg/spray of

androstenol.

[Gegogi]

Even girls don't like a

Beta and if you wear SOE ALONE day in day out you will come across as a supplicator - a cool, great listener,

social, fun, and funny one - but a supplicator none-the-less.
I think you give 'mones far too much

credit. I did fine without them but enjoy the little edge they give. Nevertheless, it's 95% you and 5% 'mones that

create your persona, not the other way around.

[Pongo]

supplicate: I had to go look that

one up --> wear some -none with your SOE gents :thumbsup:

[catlord17]

I love the kino hits... what

seems to cause them to initiate kino? The A1?

I think maybe a singlespray of TE with my usual SOE is going to

have to be my next experiment, although I'm liking the PH:SOE combo a lot.

Pongo, I don't remember mcg dosages

for these prodcts, so I am presuming Spaceland is extremely concentrated?

[Shenandoah]

Premizen, may I suggest NOT

changing something that is obviously working for you. Or, if you must change it, then proceed very slowly.

At

most change one product at a time. If something works, why not stick with it for awhile? Then if people are getting

used to it, and the reactions you want are falling off, then try boosting one product, and waitnig to see the

effect. Then return to your base application, and boost another product. Eventually you can adjust it to the desired

effects

By boosting two or more at a time, you won't know what product is giving which effect. Adding a big

drop of NPA, and one more sray of Chikara, is a significant None boost, and a significant boost in several

Unidentified Ingredients (UI) in both the Chikara, and the NPA.

Given your great results w/ SoE, 2 drops of A-1,

and 2.5 sprays of Chikara, I would repeat that for quite awhile.

Something that seems to work for me is to

change the Pheromone signature that I'm wearing as the evening progresses to move the situation in the direction I

want it to go.

Let's say you are wearing your base application of mones, and you find yourself the center of

attention with two, or more women, and you know there is no chance of getting your main target alone. In a social

situation that has been developing for an hour or so, you may want to slip aside to boost the SoE, and return. To be

seen as the life of the party, at least your small portion of the party is a good thing. Or you may want to boost

the Chikara (one spray max) as an experiment.

If you have your main target alone, and the evening has been

progressing well, you may want to increase the sexual attraction. Do so by discretely adding a small amount of

NPA.

The idea is to let your base formula do the "fishing" for you, and then when you have a hit, taylor both

your mones, and your persona to the end that you have in mind, as the evening unfolds.

People's moods, and

percptions change in short periods of time. Why not change our mones to help guide the process?

[catlord17]

How effective is it really to

shift your phero signature during interaction?

[Shenandoah]

Catlord, I've found it to

totally change the direction of the evening. Once, I was being shown the door, => on the way out, from a fairly

tense evening of misunderstandings that was pretty emotionally stressful for both of us. Obviously this evening was

shot, and perhaps the whole relationship, I figured "go for broke!" When she was looking away for just a moment (I

had already slipped the little brown bottle - no label - into my hand within my pocket), I spread a couple drops of

NPA onto my fingers, and quickly swiped them directly under my nose -where they would have the greatest affect on

me, and be most quickly dispersed into the air by my breath to have an affect on her. I wound up leaving several

hours later.

The relationship did eventually collapse, so maybe the mones just dragged soemthing out that should

have been allowed to die right then, but it did change that evening, and many more.

As to your use of Pherlure

and SoE, I find your results, and the results of several others on here intriguing. It seems to have effects far

beyond it's phero content. I may add it to my arsenal, primarily as a cover scent, something like I use APC.

[Shenandoah]

By the way, my advice just

given above is totally contrary to reasonable use of mones. It was pure happenstance, along with heightened emotions

that adding a massive dose of NPA changed the direction of that evening. Whether that was really a favorable

direction is open to your interpertation, and subject to my expectations long term.

I knew I was throwing

gasoline onto a fire. It was either going to create an inferno, or work like an oil rig fire (that is create such an

explosion that it blows the fire out). I really expected the later, as she had reacted with either DIHL, or extreme

bitchiness to high None applications prior to this.

And to clarify, it is the Pherlure, that I may add. I

already have plenty of SoE, as it seems to help around work in conjunction w/ A-314 in getting cooperation from

people.

[catlord17]

SOE is good for making

conversations easier, I have noticed, and makes people more open to the next step even before you open your mouth,

if it's started taking effect. It does seem to help with cooperation. What sort of willingness to cooperate do

you see when you add A314?

I have to finish experimenting with single mixtures and pheromones before I'll feel

comfortable tryingthe dynamic pheromonal signature thing... but it definitely sounds interesting to try. Maybe

I'll try it anyway, slowly adding AOC as the course of some evening wears on.

I'm sure you're aware that

Pherlure doesn't seem to last very long. I have been told by my assistant that it does not seem effective after

about 3 hours, and the scent is included in that.

I don't follow you though when you say it seems to have

results beyond it's phero content. As far as I can tell from the naysayers, it has no phero content!

[Premizen]

Premizen, may

I suggest NOT changing something that is obviously working for you. Or, if you must change it, then proceed very

slowly.

What a perfect piece of advice. I applied 2.5 sprays of Chikara, 2 drops of A1 and quite a bit

of SOE today (so, leaving out the NPA and extra Chikara). As there was quite a lot of SOE and A1 and I did not want

to apply that much Chikara (to have it all covered), I covered some of it with APC. I also applied 2 small dabs of

A314. I have to say it did not work very well. At least no such kino etc.

On the other hand, people were very

friendly (more than usual), but as I really want to experience all the touching again, I guess I will stay to the ~2

sprays of Chikara, 2 drops of A1 and SOE mix for a while and try to tune it to the best dosage.

Just as

catlord17 I was wondering too, what could have made the girls touch me that much? Possibly the kind of perfect

dosage of Chikara?

I will post updates!

[MOBLEYC57]

What a perfect

piece of advice. I applied 2.5 sprays of Chikara, 2 drops of A1 and quite a bit of SOE today (so, leaving out the

NPA and extra Chikara). As there was quite a lot of SOE and A1 and I did not want to apply that much Chikara (to

have it all covered), I covered some of it with APC. I also applied 2 small dabs of A314. I have to say it did not

work very well. At least no such kino etc.

On the other hand, people were very friendly (more than usual), but

as I really want to experience all the touching again, I guess I will stay to the ~2 sprays of Chikara, 2

drops of A1 and SOE mix for a while and try to tune it to the best dosage.

Just as catlord17 I was

wondering too, what could have made the girls touch me that much? Possibly the kind of perfect dosage of Chikara?



I will post updates!

Yes, please keep us updated on your findings, and, if I may, if you take a ruler

and measure an inch from the tip of your finger, and use that for measuring your SOE applications, it would get

everything down to the T.

Thanks!

[Premizen]

if you take a

ruler and measure an inch from the tip of your finger, and use that for measuring your SOE applications, it would

get everything down to the T.

Thanks!
Hmm.. do you mean that I would measure an inch from the tip of my

finger and when applying, I would first roll the SOE on my finger and then apply on my neck (or whereever) with the

finger?
So far I have always just rolled the SOE over my neck straight from the bottle.

[MOBLEYC57]

Hmm.. do you

mean that I would measure an inch from the tip of my finger and when applying, I would first roll the SOE on my

finger and then apply on my neck (or whereever) with the finger?
So far I have always just rolled the SOE over my

neck straight from the bottle.

Yes. When SOE first came out, everybody was asking how many inches were

applied. How would one know? So I measured an inch from the tip of my finger towards my hand. That way I knew how

many inches for keeping the exact dosages. Just a thought. :wave:

P.S. How old are you, P?

[catlord17]

I am beginning to think that

either SOE, or the combination of SOE and Pherlure, causes heightened sex drive in me. I've noticed more drive

since I started wearing this combination consistently. I usually put the SOE on my cheeks and the Pherlure on the

throat, so they're not mixed, and I can smell the SOE for a long time.

[Premizen]

Yes. When SOE

first came out, everybody was asking how many inches were applied. How would one know? So I measured an inch from

the tip of my finger towards my hand. That way I knew how many inches for keeping the exact dosages. Just a thought.

:wave:

P.S. How old are you, P?
Alright.. wouldn't some of the SOE evaporate during the process,

though?

I am 18. Is my poor English giving me away? :P Well, it is my third language :D

Anyway, about my day.

Well, I applied some SOE (did not measure with my finger yet - going to start doing that soon), 2 drops of A1 and

covered it with 2 sprays of Chikara. That was the mix that got me the great hits the other day. Today I did not

spend too much time at school - just a few hours and during that time I did not get any big hits. There was some

smiling, but that is kind of usual and there was no such touching as I was/am expecting. It seems the exact dosage

of SOE/Chikara plays a big role. Well, I will spend some further time with the mix!

By the way, Mob - I see you

asking for very specific details in most of the threads. You must have a lot of knowledge and notes taken down. Do

you think you are going to share any of your studies any time soon?

Your AA314 thread (and all the other long

reports!) is just great.

EDIT: As I am using the unscented version of SOE, I need to cover it. I usually cover it

with Chikara, but is it possible that they somewhat neutralize each other? I mean not completely, but decrease the

effect? Maybe I should not cover SOE with Chikara?

[Shenandoah]

Catlord,
Pherlure doesn't

have to be a pheromone to get desired results, especially when it is mixed with SoE, which we know to be an

excellent product either by itself, or in mixed applications.
see

[url="http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7475"]http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7475[/

url]

Note that Pumpkin pie has an effect by itself, and Lavender has an effect by itself, yet neither one is a

pheromone.

Now use them together, and the effect is more than 4 times what either one of them is alone. This mix

also affects women.


Premizen,
Stick with your "kino" application for a while = "some SOE (with the default

roll-on bottle, I never actually know how much am I exactly applying, lol) on my neck, 2 drops of A1 (full-strength)

on my Adam's apple and covered it with about 2,5 sprays of Chikara."

Adding APC, and A314 was making a very

different mix out of it. A314 is a great product for getting respect, not neccessarily kino. Also, APC has quite

enough None to knock the mix way off your intended goal.

Even though this exact kino mix didn't give you what

you wanted the second time you used it, it wasn't a failure. You didn't wear it around the college women as long

as you did the first day, so the comparison will not be the same.

Also, what were some of the other variables?

What was your mood the first day?Did you have a gym class the first day? Was it bright & sunny, or cloudy & damp?

Were you in a room, or outside on a bench? Were you wearing a different mix the prior day, which you didn't quite

wash off? Are mones building up on your clothes, or in your body? Were you sitting near a cafeteria, or something

else producing a background aroma? Maybe these women had just been to a gym class, or just gotten out of a cooking

class. And just maybe, it may be the time of the month the women are in that gives you this reaction to your mix,

which means you may have to go an entire month to see it again, not just a few days, or weeks.

If it gave you

what you wanted once, stick with it until you know why it did what it did, and what you can do to make it happen

again.

[a.k.a.]

SOE loosens women up and makes you

seem more in control. That’s a lot of power if you know how to use it.
Androstenone grabs a woman’s

attention like nothing else, and I think that’s why a lot of guys consider it more sexual.

Personally,

I enjoy being the center of attention and that’s why I like None. But if getting laid is your main concern, SOE will

get your foot in the door without setting off a bunch of alarms.