Something all you guys have heard before. (last thread for now LOL)

[Johnny Mnemonic]

What do you do when you hear "I think you're a nice guy"

As I've

matured and grown in regards to my personality and my looks,
I have managed to eliminate this response even without

pheromones.
But there have been those "few" times that I have heard from one or two women that I might want to have

dated.

Would Primal Instinct be the better choice for avoiding this reply? Or would NPA mixed with Chikara be

better? I've read that Primal Instinct can be very strong so I'm not sure LOL as to what my next purchase will

be.

I'm not saying that I'm not a nice guy as I am, but I know that when a woman says this, it means that

she's not interested.

Opinions from both ladies and gentlemen are appreciated. Thanks

[CptKipling]

So what if she says that?



Does it always have to mean you are blown off?

Just start talking about something else like you didn't notice

at all, or disqualify yourself ("Thanks, but you know I'm not sure how true that is") or make a joke about her

saying it ("Hey cool thanks! Hey wait a minute... what do you want from me? Wow you had me going there, you're

dangerous.." etc.).

It's as important as you make it.

[oscar]

What do you

do when you hear "I think you're a nice guy"

As I've matured and grown in regards to my personality and my

looks,
I have managed to eliminate this response even without pheromones.
But there have been those "few" times

that I have heard from one or two women that I might want to have dated.

Would Primal Instinct be the better

choice for avoiding this reply? Or would NPA mixed with Chikara be better? I've read that Primal Instinct can be

very strong so I'm not sure LOL as to what my next purchase will be.

I'm not saying that I'm not a nice guy

as I am, but I know that when a woman says this, it means that she's not interested.

Opinions from both ladies

and gentlemen are appreciated. Thanks

You know what "Johnny"?
When I saw that you'd shown up with this

new alias, I thought that I'd just sit back and watch what you'd post.
If the best that you can do is just

rehash the same old CRAP that you posted as

"Sigfreed" (http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13521), then you're not going to be around very long this time either.

If it's just about seeing

your name at the top of the thread list then I suggest you move on. It got really old, really FAST last time, and

it's already beyond that now from my point of view knowing your history.

'Crossroads" time Johnny! Pick which

way you want to go.

Oscar

[Gegogi]

"What do you do when you hear "I think you're a nice guy"
Yeah, this topic does seem to invoke

deja vu. One of the top 20 discussions?

There are few absolutes in life and words can and are twisted to mean

whatever the speaker desires. I have lots of women say this to me and, more often than not, I end up in bed with

them. In such cases it roughly translates as "I really like you and want to make babies with you." Of course the

facial expressions, body language, actions make clear her desires and it doen't matter what she says. On the other

hand, if it is followed by "and can we just be friends" and stand offish body language it may be a polite brush-off.

Or she might really want to be friends. Or she may simply want to take things slowly, especially if she is married

or in a relationship.

A couple years ago a student emailed me and wrote what a kind, nice guy I was. I

wondered what the heck she had up her sleeve and, after a few office visits, it turned out she merely wanted to fuck

me senseless. So being a nice guy ain't so bad. Although she said I was an utter ass later...

[Johnny Mnemonic]

You know

what "Johnny"?
When I saw that you'd shown up with this new alias, I thought that I'd just sit back and watch

what you'd post.
If the best that you can do is just rehash

the same old CRAP that you posted as "Sigfreed" (http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13521),

then you're not going to be around very long this time either.

If it's just about seeing your name at the top

of the thread list then I suggest you move on. It got really old, really FAST last time, and it's already beyond

that now from my point of view knowing your history.

'Crossroads" time Johnny! Pick which way you want to go.



Oscar

Who is sigfreed? I've never heard of him and had no idea that this topic had been discussed

before. If this topic has been already posted by another member I apologize as I haven't looked too far back into

the forum's posts.

I guess I should look as far back as I can before asking questions to avoid reposting? I'm

totally a newbie when it comes to these chat forums and not really sure how they work as I just purchased my first

computer not too long ago.

Sorry for an inconvenience I might have caused anyone. I'm only here to discuss

pheromone and dating related issues.

[Johnny Mnemonic]

Yeah, this

topic does seem to invoke deja vu. One of the top 20 discussions?

There are few absolutes in life and words can

and are twisted to mean whatever the speaker desires. I have lots of women say this to me and, more often than not,

I end up in bed with them. In such cases it roughly translates as "I really like you and want to make babies with

you." Of course the facial expressions, body language, actions make clear her desires and it doen't matter what she

says. On the other hand, if it is followed by "and can we just be friends" and stand offish body language it may be

a polite brush-off. Or she might really want to be friends. Or she may simply want to take things slowly, especially

if she is married or in a relationship.

A couple years ago a student emailed me and wrote what a kind, nice guy

I was. I wondered what the heck she had up her sleeve and, after a few office visits, it turned out she merely

wanted to fuck me senseless. So being a nice guy ain't so bad. Although she said I was an utter ass

later...

I really do appreciate your insight on this. So basically if the "can we just be friends" line

does not come into play in any way, than that means I'm still in? That's what I was thinking as I've had sexual

friendships with women who've called me a "nice guy" before.

[Johnny Mnemonic]

So

what if she says that?

Does it always have to mean you are blown off?

Just start talking about something

else like you didn't notice at all, or disqualify yourself ("Thanks, but you know I'm not sure how true that is")

or make a joke about her saying it ("Hey cool thanks! Hey wait a minute... what do you want from me? Wow you had me

going there, you're dangerous.." etc.).

It's as important as you make it.

LOL, thanks for the tip

it's appreciated. I haven't seen this topic yet on the site so I was looking for opinions.

[Gegogi]

Well, as far as women go, I

prefer and usually only fuck my friends. Being friends makes the experience much more meaningful. Plus you have

something to do or talk about afterwards.

Realize, lots of guys don't like or are unable to be friends with

women, so this topic may not compute. Most of my friends are women. Men just aren't as interesting to hang with.

[Johnny Mnemonic]

Well, as

far as women go, I prefer and usually only fuck my friends. Being friends makes the experience much more meaningful.

Plus you have something to do or talk about afterwards.

Realize, lots of guys don't like or are unable to be

friends with women, so this topic may not compute. Most of my friends are women. Men just aren't as interesting to

hang with.

Well Gegogi I couldn't agree with you more on this one. After being in a three year

relationship, I only have a couple of female "friends" and right now it suits me and I have a very meaningful

friendship with the 2 of them. They both know about eachother and they are both cool with it as they don't want to

be exclusive with anyone either at the moment.

[catlord17]

Well, as far as

women go, I prefer and usually only fuck my friends. Being friends makes the experience much more meaningful. Plus

you have something to do or talk about afterwards.

Realize, lots of guys don't like or are unable to be friends

with women, so this topic may not compute. Most of my friends are women. Men just aren't as interesting to hang

with.

Translation: Men don't have boobies. :rofl:

[Gegogi]

Yeah, I'm sure I'd find men a

lot more interesting if I was gay! Even lady-boys don't cut it. When it comes to poon-tang, it has to be the real

deal.

[Visionary7903]

Yea since Ive regularly

started wearing A1, I have to agree with Gegogi. Women just linger and treat me better than at any other time in my

life. It is like I have a special 'connection' with them.

Men on the other hand just get in the way! :POKE: I

wish they just wouldn't bring their negative energy hehe you can tell I hate the competition...

Anyway

sometimes I feel it is better to just not wear the A1 and bond with male friends... I am 100% hetero but friendship

with males is a cool thing too :cheers: . Not everything has to be about getting laid or potentially getting laid...

Of course my best conversations with men are often about the opposite sex hehe...

Visionary




Men just aren't as interesting to hang with.

[InternationalPlayboy]

Translation: Men don't have boobies. :rofl:

Well, most

men.

http://www.maximonline.com/articles/index.aspx?a_id=578

:eek:

(Luckily, there

aren't pictures.)

[DCW]

I agree with the friendship sex

thing, I have 2 friends in Toronto that often spend a week or so with me here in Houston.

I use to get the

"your a nice guy but" attitude a lot when I was much younger.
It seems that the more attention you give them the

less chance you have of any kind of intimacy, one girl told me that I was "too cool". Translated it meant that I was

too stable and boring, it seems that she wanted the bad boy, what she got was two kids out of wedlock.

I

often see sexy chicks at clubs with guys that seem to ignore them, I think the key thing is not to put all your

cards on the table, be somewhat mysterious, and keep the interest alive.


DCW

[Johnny Mnemonic]

I agree with

the friendship sex thing, I have 2 friends in Toronto that often spend a week or so with me here in Houston.

I

use to get the "your a nice guy but" attitude a lot when I was much younger.
It seems that the more attention you

give them the less chance you have of any kind of intimacy, one girl told me that I was "too cool". Translated it

meant that I was too stable and boring, it seems that she wanted the bad boy, what she got was two kids out of

wedlock.

I often see sexy chicks at clubs with guys that seem to ignore them, I think the key thing is not to

put all your cards on the table, be somewhat mysterious, and keep the interest alive.


DCW

You are

so right. I always see this which is why I don't go for women in clubs. Heck, I rarely go to clubs as it is so why

would I waste my time with someone like that?

I agree if no attention is given, you obviously won't have any

chance at something physical happening &/or dating them. But you can't show them that you're a wuss either like

following them around, complimenting them every chance you get like I used to do when I was 18 or 20. That actually

did work in some cases, but as I got older I realized I was just making a fool of myself LOL.

I also see that

many women like the "bad boy" but in the end all that ever happens is that the woman at some point or another gets

royally screwed over. Such as the example you gave 2 kids without being married.

If I were a woman I wouldn't

want someone boring, but I also wouldn't want someone that treats my like crap either nor would I put up with it.

[Johnny Mnemonic]

Well, most men.



http://www.maximonline.com/articles/index.aspx?a_id

=578 (http://www.maximonline.com/articles/index.aspx?a_id=578)

:eek:

(Luckily, there aren't pictures.)

Thank the Lord there aren't any pic's.

[DCW]

In the end we have the last laugh,

young girls that walk around with the noses in the air when they were in their 20s are now playing catch up in their

30s and 40s.

They have been put through the ringer, lied to, divorced and now their tits are starting to sag,

and their ass looks like a bowling ball, they start screwing married men to lure them from their wives and kids, or

they have to settle for Morty in accounting with his fake hair piece.

Now you can pick, choose and refuse

from a wide variety.

DCW

[Johnny Mnemonic]

In the end we

have the last laugh, young girls that walk around with the noses in the air when they were in their 20s are now

playing catch up in their 30s and 40s.

They have been put through the ringer, lied to, divorced and now their

tits are starting to sag, and their ass looks like a bowling ball, they start screwing married men to lure them from

their wives and kids, or they have to settle for Morty in accounting with his fake hair piece.

Now you can pic,

choose and refuse.

DCW

LOL I certainly have seen this outcome more than once (no offense to any

ladies who might read this).

[DCW]

LOL I

certainly have seen this outcome more than once (no offense to any ladies who might read this).

Yeah

it seem that old Morty isn't much to look at but "he treat me well" and is a "nice guy".
Oh shit it seems the

"nice guy" thing is now acceptable...imagine that.


DCW

[Sigma]

I agree with the

friendship sex thing, I have 2 friends in Toronto that often spend a week or so with me here in Houston.

I use to

get the "your a nice guy but" attitude a lot when I was much younger.
It seems that the more attention you give

them the less chance you have of any kind of intimacy, one girl told me that I was "too cool". Translated it meant

that I was too stable and boring, it seems that she wanted the bad boy, what she got was two kids out of

wedlock.

I often see sexy chicks at clubs with guys that seem to ignore them, I think the key thing is not to put

all your cards on the table, be somewhat mysterious, and keep the interest alive.


DCW

what part of

houston are you from DCW?

[DCW]

The wealthy part..I wish

:-).

South West about 8 miles West of the Galleria.

DCW

[MrPlayboy]

I go after hot breezy's. But

when I find out that that the dime piece is also very wealthy, then my goal no longer becomes to hit it, my goal

then becomes to mack up on some CA$H.

So I then proceed to run the game on her as if I AM THE ONE who is only

interested in her as a friend, and I say things like "what's up, man" etc, etc, etc....All the while subtley

letting her be aware that I'm knocking boots with other chicks. This makes her try VERY hard to impress me.

And

then, I just make her pay me all kinds of cold hard cash.




"life's a bitch...so be a pimp and play that

ho"
- Mr. Mackedocious

[Sigma]

The wealthy part..I

wish :-).

South West about 8 miles West of the Galleria.

DCW

Cool. I live in the southwest area

too, in an unlabelled area between sugarland and alief. sorry for getting off topic lol.

I think that so many

guys fear be labelled a nice guy that they take it to the extent of being the asshole or overly defensive- which is

a route that can be just as self-destructive. There's nothing wrong with knowing how to treat a lady, but like

others here say, do it with reservation and give them something to wonder about...something to work for.



There's nothing wrong with being a nice guy...most women like being treated well (though there are the demented

types with an affinity to being treated like crap). The trick is to find a balance between asshole and

gentleman...to create a sense that you're capable to treating them well and giving them the experiences they want

to have, though you're in control of yourself enough not to open yourself in that way so readily, and that you

don't treat most women in that manner.

[DCW]

Cool. I live in the

southwest area too, in an unlabelled area between sugarland and alief. sorry for getting off topic lol.

I

think that so many guys fear be labelled a nice guy that they take it to the extent of being the asshole or overly

defensive- which is a route that can be just as self-destructive. There's nothing wrong with knowing how to treat

a lady, but like others here say, do it with reservation and give them something to wonder about...something to work

for.

There's nothing wrong with being a nice guy...most women like being treated well (though there are

the demented types with an affinity to being treated like crap). The trick is to find a balance between asshole and

gentleman...to create a sense that you're capable to treating them well and giving them the experiences they want

to have, though you're in control of yourself enough not to open yourself in that way so readily, and that you

wouldn't treat just anybody in the manner.

Well put, I'm not a prick so why should I act like one,

but on the other hand I'm no wuss either.
Like you said the trick is to find the proper balance for the

conquest.
I don't expect to sleep with every girl I'm interested in and vice versa, as long as I'm true to

myself I'm happy.

DCW

[phersurf]

What you want to strive for is

being a "good guy", not a "nice guy".

Good guys treat women well, but are not wuss's. They will not put up

with a woman's crap, will not fall for her "tests", doesn't put her on a "pedestal", is not too available, is a

challange, and will stand up for himself. He is not swayed by her beauty and won't let her get away with crap

because she is beautiful.

Women want guys like this, that's why they test men. If you fail her tests, she

will not be attracted to you and usually that's when she say's, "you're a nice guy" (which is usually followed

by, "but I don't feel that way about you").

[Gegogi]

I am 100% hetero but

friendship with males is a cool thing too . Not everything has to be about getting laid or potentially getting

laid...
Well, of course women are handy for sex but I find them great general purpose companions:

shopping, dinner, travel, conversation, making music, gettinn' stoned and just hangin' out. Sex is merely one

small aspect of a friendship.

Nevertheless, I'm proud of being considered a nice guy by most women and thank

them (in my heart) for letting me screw them senseless at the end (or beginning) of the evening. Of course I do my

best to please them and usually can find the right buttons to push. I believe ladies should always cum first. Now

that I think of it, maybe that's why they consider me a nice guy. Now ain't friendships nice! Especially for us

nice guys!

Incidentally, usually married women are the ones that say "I don't feel that way about you."

That's female speak for I want to fuck you but love my husband and don't you dare do anything to mess up my family

life. I've heard that line a lot the past few years.

[belgareth]

There's nothing wrong with

being a nice guy. I've always been proud of that label. Women like to be treated well but as others have said, they

also want a man to have a spine and act like a man, not some supplicating wimp.

[Johnny Mnemonic]

Well maybe it isn't

such a bad thing after all. I must say without
the use of pheromones, my personality has grown quite a bit

even
in the last year and continues to improve and grow.

The women I've been with recently, about 95% of them

have not labled me the "nice guy" but said that they were surprised at how well I treated them and said they wished

there were more guys like me around.

When I was in my early 20's I used to be that puppy dog following around

women my age, doing favors for them hoping to get that acceptance and get close to them. But I never do that now

ever as that is what Belgareth would call a wimp I guess.

I'm at the point in my life where my self confidence

is quite high
(but not to the point of being cocky or arrogant as it's a turn off) that I'm able to not let just

about anything negative phase me.
That way I keep happy and for some reason, women seem to be attracted to this

quality I have.

Thanks for your opinions, they're appreciated.