View Full Version : Something all you guys have heard before. (last thread for now LOL)
Johnny Mnemonic
01-04-2006, 03:30 PM
What do you do when you hear "I think you're a nice guy"
As I've
matured and grown in regards to my personality and my looks,
I have managed to eliminate this response even without
pheromones.
But there have been those "few" times that I have heard from one or two women that I might want to have
dated.
Would Primal Instinct be the better choice for avoiding this reply? Or would NPA mixed with Chikara be
better? I've read that Primal Instinct can be very strong so I'm not sure LOL as to what my next purchase will
be.
I'm not saying that I'm not a nice guy as I am, but I know that when a woman says this, it means that
she's not interested.
Opinions from both ladies and gentlemen are appreciated. Thanks
CptKipling
01-04-2006, 05:22 PM
So what if she says that?
Does it always have to mean you are blown off?
Just start talking about something else like you didn't notice
at all, or disqualify yourself ("Thanks, but you know I'm not sure how true that is") or make a joke about her
saying it ("Hey cool thanks! Hey wait a minute... what do you want from me? Wow you had me going there, you're
dangerous.." etc.).
It's as important as you make it.
oscar
01-04-2006, 05:46 PM
What do you
do when you hear "I think you're a nice guy"
As I've matured and grown in regards to my personality and my
looks,
I have managed to eliminate this response even without pheromones.
But there have been those "few" times
that I have heard from one or two women that I might want to have dated.
Would Primal Instinct be the better
choice for avoiding this reply? Or would NPA mixed with Chikara be better? I've read that Primal Instinct can be
very strong so I'm not sure LOL as to what my next purchase will be.
I'm not saying that I'm not a nice guy
as I am, but I know that when a woman says this, it means that she's not interested.
Opinions from both ladies
and gentlemen are appreciated. Thanks
You know what "Johnny"?
When I saw that you'd shown up with this
new alias, I thought that I'd just sit back and watch what you'd post.
If the best that you can do is just
rehash the same old CRAP that you posted as
"Sigfreed" (http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13521), then you're not going to be around very long this time either.
If it's just about seeing
your name at the top of the thread list then I suggest you move on. It got really old, really FAST last time, and
it's already beyond that now from my point of view knowing your history.
'Crossroads" time Johnny! Pick which
way you want to go.
Oscar
Gegogi
01-04-2006, 06:37 PM
"What do you do when you hear "I think you're a nice guy"
Yeah, this topic does seem to invoke
deja vu. One of the top 20 discussions?
There are few absolutes in life and words can and are twisted to mean
whatever the speaker desires. I have lots of women say this to me and, more often than not, I end up in bed with
them. In such cases it roughly translates as "I really like you and want to make babies with you." Of course the
facial expressions, body language, actions make clear her desires and it doen't matter what she says. On the other
hand, if it is followed by "and can we just be friends" and stand offish body language it may be a polite brush-off.
Or she might really want to be friends. Or she may simply want to take things slowly, especially if she is married
or in a relationship.
A couple years ago a student emailed me and wrote what a kind, nice guy I was. I
wondered what the heck she had up her sleeve and, after a few office visits, it turned out she merely wanted to fuck
me senseless. So being a nice guy ain't so bad. Although she said I was an utter ass later...
Johnny Mnemonic
01-04-2006, 08:33 PM
You know
what "Johnny"?
When I saw that you'd shown up with this new alias, I thought that I'd just sit back and watch
what you'd post.
If the best that you can do is just rehash
the same old CRAP that you posted as "Sigfreed" (http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13521),
then you're not going to be around very long this time either.
If it's just about seeing your name at the top
of the thread list then I suggest you move on. It got really old, really FAST last time, and it's already beyond
that now from my point of view knowing your history.
'Crossroads" time Johnny! Pick which way you want to go.
Oscar
Who is sigfreed? I've never heard of him and had no idea that this topic had been discussed
before. If this topic has been already posted by another member I apologize as I haven't looked too far back into
the forum's posts.
I guess I should look as far back as I can before asking questions to avoid reposting? I'm
totally a newbie when it comes to these chat forums and not really sure how they work as I just purchased my first
computer not too long ago.
Sorry for an inconvenience I might have caused anyone. I'm only here to discuss
pheromone and dating related issues.
Johnny Mnemonic
01-04-2006, 08:36 PM
Yeah, this
topic does seem to invoke deja vu. One of the top 20 discussions?
There are few absolutes in life and words can
and are twisted to mean whatever the speaker desires. I have lots of women say this to me and, more often than not,
I end up in bed with them. In such cases it roughly translates as "I really like you and want to make babies with
you." Of course the facial expressions, body language, actions make clear her desires and it doen't matter what she
says. On the other hand, if it is followed by "and can we just be friends" and stand offish body language it may be
a polite brush-off. Or she might really want to be friends. Or she may simply want to take things slowly, especially
if she is married or in a relationship.
A couple years ago a student emailed me and wrote what a kind, nice guy
I was. I wondered what the heck she had up her sleeve and, after a few office visits, it turned out she merely
wanted to fuck me senseless. So being a nice guy ain't so bad. Although she said I was an utter ass
later...
I really do appreciate your insight on this. So basically if the "can we just be friends" line
does not come into play in any way, than that means I'm still in? That's what I was thinking as I've had sexual
friendships with women who've called me a "nice guy" before.
Johnny Mnemonic
01-04-2006, 08:37 PM
So
what if she says that?
Does it always have to mean you are blown off?
Just start talking about something
else like you didn't notice at all, or disqualify yourself ("Thanks, but you know I'm not sure how true that is")
or make a joke about her saying it ("Hey cool thanks! Hey wait a minute... what do you want from me? Wow you had me
going there, you're dangerous.." etc.).
It's as important as you make it.
LOL, thanks for the tip
it's appreciated. I haven't seen this topic yet on the site so I was looking for opinions.
Gegogi
01-04-2006, 08:38 PM
Well, as far as women go, I
prefer and usually only fuck my friends. Being friends makes the experience much more meaningful. Plus you have
something to do or talk about afterwards.
Realize, lots of guys don't like or are unable to be friends with
women, so this topic may not compute. Most of my friends are women. Men just aren't as interesting to hang with.
Johnny Mnemonic
01-04-2006, 08:46 PM
Well, as
far as women go, I prefer and usually only fuck my friends. Being friends makes the experience much more meaningful.
Plus you have something to do or talk about afterwards.
Realize, lots of guys don't like or are unable to be
friends with women, so this topic may not compute. Most of my friends are women. Men just aren't as interesting to
hang with.
Well Gegogi I couldn't agree with you more on this one. After being in a three year
relationship, I only have a couple of female "friends" and right now it suits me and I have a very meaningful
friendship with the 2 of them. They both know about eachother and they are both cool with it as they don't want to
be exclusive with anyone either at the moment.
catlord17
01-04-2006, 10:48 PM
Well, as far as
women go, I prefer and usually only fuck my friends. Being friends makes the experience much more meaningful. Plus
you have something to do or talk about afterwards.
Realize, lots of guys don't like or are unable to be friends
with women, so this topic may not compute. Most of my friends are women. Men just aren't as interesting to hang
with.
Translation: Men don't have boobies. :rofl:
Gegogi
01-05-2006, 01:32 AM
Yeah, I'm sure I'd find men a
lot more interesting if I was gay! Even lady-boys don't cut it. When it comes to poon-tang, it has to be the real
deal.
Visionary7903
01-05-2006, 04:02 AM
Yea since Ive regularly
started wearing A1, I have to agree with Gegogi. Women just linger and treat me better than at any other time in my
life. It is like I have a special 'connection' with them.
Men on the other hand just get in the way! :POKE: I
wish they just wouldn't bring their negative energy hehe you can tell I hate the competition...
Anyway
sometimes I feel it is better to just not wear the A1 and bond with male friends... I am 100% hetero but friendship
with males is a cool thing too :cheers: . Not everything has to be about getting laid or potentially getting laid...
Of course my best conversations with men are often about the opposite sex hehe...
Visionary
Men just aren't as interesting to hang with.
InternationalPlayboy
01-05-2006, 06:16 AM
Translation: Men don't have boobies. :rofl:
Well, most
men.
http://www.maximonline.com/articles/index.aspx?a_id=578
:eek:
(Luckily, there
aren't pictures.)
I agree with the friendship sex
thing, I have 2 friends in Toronto that often spend a week or so with me here in Houston.
I use to get the
"your a nice guy but" attitude a lot when I was much younger.
It seems that the more attention you give them the
less chance you have of any kind of intimacy, one girl told me that I was "too cool". Translated it meant that I was
too stable and boring, it seems that she wanted the bad boy, what she got was two kids out of wedlock.
I
often see sexy chicks at clubs with guys that seem to ignore them, I think the key thing is not to put all your
cards on the table, be somewhat mysterious, and keep the interest alive.
DCW
Johnny Mnemonic
01-05-2006, 08:14 AM
I agree with
the friendship sex thing, I have 2 friends in Toronto that often spend a week or so with me here in Houston.
I
use to get the "your a nice guy but" attitude a lot when I was much younger.
It seems that the more attention you
give them the less chance you have of any kind of intimacy, one girl told me that I was "too cool". Translated it
meant that I was too stable and boring, it seems that she wanted the bad boy, what she got was two kids out of
wedlock.
I often see sexy chicks at clubs with guys that seem to ignore them, I think the key thing is not to
put all your cards on the table, be somewhat mysterious, and keep the interest alive.
DCW
You are
so right. I always see this which is why I don't go for women in clubs. Heck, I rarely go to clubs as it is so why
would I waste my time with someone like that?
I agree if no attention is given, you obviously won't have any
chance at something physical happening &/or dating them. But you can't show them that you're a wuss either like
following them around, complimenting them every chance you get like I used to do when I was 18 or 20. That actually
did work in some cases, but as I got older I realized I was just making a fool of myself LOL.
I also see that
many women like the "bad boy" but in the end all that ever happens is that the woman at some point or another gets
royally screwed over. Such as the example you gave 2 kids without being married.
If I were a woman I wouldn't
want someone boring, but I also wouldn't want someone that treats my like crap either nor would I put up with it.
Johnny Mnemonic
01-05-2006, 08:21 AM
Well, most men.
http://www.maximonline.com/articles/index.aspx?a_id
=578 (http://www.maximonline.com/articles/index.aspx?a_id=578)
:eek:
(Luckily, there aren't pictures.)
Thank the Lord there aren't any pic's.
In the end we have the last laugh,
young girls that walk around with the noses in the air when they were in their 20s are now playing catch up in their
30s and 40s.
They have been put through the ringer, lied to, divorced and now their tits are starting to sag,
and their ass looks like a bowling ball, they start screwing married men to lure them from their wives and kids, or
they have to settle for Morty in accounting with his fake hair piece.
Now you can pick, choose and refuse
from a wide variety.
DCW
Johnny Mnemonic
01-05-2006, 08:30 AM
In the end we
have the last laugh, young girls that walk around with the noses in the air when they were in their 20s are now
playing catch up in their 30s and 40s.
They have been put through the ringer, lied to, divorced and now their
tits are starting to sag, and their ass looks like a bowling ball, they start screwing married men to lure them from
their wives and kids, or they have to settle for Morty in accounting with his fake hair piece.
Now you can pic,
choose and refuse.
DCW
LOL I certainly have seen this outcome more than once (no offense to any
ladies who might read this).
LOL I
certainly have seen this outcome more than once (no offense to any ladies who might read this).
Yeah
it seem that old Morty isn't much to look at but "he treat me well" and is a "nice guy".
Oh shit it seems the
"nice guy" thing is now acceptable...imagine that.
DCW
Sigma
01-05-2006, 12:12 PM
I agree with the
friendship sex thing, I have 2 friends in Toronto that often spend a week or so with me here in Houston.
I use to
get the "your a nice guy but" attitude a lot when I was much younger.
It seems that the more attention you give
them the less chance you have of any kind of intimacy, one girl told me that I was "too cool". Translated it meant
that I was too stable and boring, it seems that she wanted the bad boy, what she got was two kids out of
wedlock.
I often see sexy chicks at clubs with guys that seem to ignore them, I think the key thing is not to put
all your cards on the table, be somewhat mysterious, and keep the interest alive.
DCW
what part of
houston are you from DCW?
The wealthy part..I wish
:-).
South West about 8 miles West of the Galleria.
DCW
MrPlayboy
01-05-2006, 12:55 PM
I go after hot breezy's. But
when I find out that that the dime piece is also very wealthy, then my goal no longer becomes to hit it, my goal
then becomes to mack up on some CA$H.
So I then proceed to run the game on her as if I AM THE ONE who is only
interested in her as a friend, and I say things like "what's up, man" etc, etc, etc....All the while subtley
letting her be aware that I'm knocking boots with other chicks. This makes her try VERY hard to impress me.
And
then, I just make her pay me all kinds of cold hard cash.
"life's a bitch...so be a pimp and play that
ho"
- Mr. Mackedocious
Sigma
01-05-2006, 01:15 PM
The wealthy part..I
wish :-).
South West about 8 miles West of the Galleria.
DCW
Cool. I live in the southwest area
too, in an unlabelled area between sugarland and alief. sorry for getting off topic lol.
I think that so many
guys fear be labelled a nice guy that they take it to the extent of being the asshole or overly defensive- which is
a route that can be just as self-destructive. There's nothing wrong with knowing how to treat a lady, but like
others here say, do it with reservation and give them something to wonder about...something to work for.
There's nothing wrong with being a nice guy...most women like being treated well (though there are the demented
types with an affinity to being treated like crap). The trick is to find a balance between asshole and
gentleman...to create a sense that you're capable to treating them well and giving them the experiences they want
to have, though you're in control of yourself enough not to open yourself in that way so readily, and that you
don't treat most women in that manner.
Cool. I live in the
southwest area too, in an unlabelled area between sugarland and alief. sorry for getting off topic lol.
I
think that so many guys fear be labelled a nice guy that they take it to the extent of being the asshole or overly
defensive- which is a route that can be just as self-destructive. There's nothing wrong with knowing how to treat
a lady, but like others here say, do it with reservation and give them something to wonder about...something to work
for.
There's nothing wrong with being a nice guy...most women like being treated well (though there are
the demented types with an affinity to being treated like crap). The trick is to find a balance between asshole and
gentleman...to create a sense that you're capable to treating them well and giving them the experiences they want
to have, though you're in control of yourself enough not to open yourself in that way so readily, and that you
wouldn't treat just anybody in the manner.
Well put, I'm not a prick so why should I act like one,
but on the other hand I'm no wuss either.
Like you said the trick is to find the proper balance for the
conquest.
I don't expect to sleep with every girl I'm interested in and vice versa, as long as I'm true to
myself I'm happy.
DCW
phersurf
01-05-2006, 04:30 PM
What you want to strive for is
being a "good guy", not a "nice guy".
Good guys treat women well, but are not wuss's. They will not put up
with a woman's crap, will not fall for her "tests", doesn't put her on a "pedestal", is not too available, is a
challange, and will stand up for himself. He is not swayed by her beauty and won't let her get away with crap
because she is beautiful.
Women want guys like this, that's why they test men. If you fail her tests, she
will not be attracted to you and usually that's when she say's, "you're a nice guy" (which is usually followed
by, "but I don't feel that way about you").
Gegogi
01-05-2006, 07:58 PM
I am 100% hetero but
friendship with males is a cool thing too . Not everything has to be about getting laid or potentially getting
laid...
Well, of course women are handy for sex but I find them great general purpose companions:
shopping, dinner, travel, conversation, making music, gettinn' stoned and just hangin' out. Sex is merely one
small aspect of a friendship.
Nevertheless, I'm proud of being considered a nice guy by most women and thank
them (in my heart) for letting me screw them senseless at the end (or beginning) of the evening. Of course I do my
best to please them and usually can find the right buttons to push. I believe ladies should always cum first. Now
that I think of it, maybe that's why they consider me a nice guy. Now ain't friendships nice! Especially for us
nice guys!
Incidentally, usually married women are the ones that say "I don't feel that way about you."
That's female speak for I want to fuck you but love my husband and don't you dare do anything to mess up my family
life. I've heard that line a lot the past few years.
belgareth
01-05-2006, 08:00 PM
There's nothing wrong with
being a nice guy. I've always been proud of that label. Women like to be treated well but as others have said, they
also want a man to have a spine and act like a man, not some supplicating wimp.
Johnny Mnemonic
01-06-2006, 02:59 PM
Well maybe it isn't
such a bad thing after all. I must say without
the use of pheromones, my personality has grown quite a bit
even
in the last year and continues to improve and grow.
The women I've been with recently, about 95% of them
have not labled me the "nice guy" but said that they were surprised at how well I treated them and said they wished
there were more guys like me around.
When I was in my early 20's I used to be that puppy dog following around
women my age, doing favors for them hoping to get that acceptance and get close to them. But I never do that now
ever as that is what Belgareth would call a wimp I guess.
I'm at the point in my life where my self confidence
is quite high
(but not to the point of being cocky or arrogant as it's a turn off) that I'm able to not let just
about anything negative phase me.
That way I keep happy and for some reason, women seem to be attracted to this
quality I have.
Thanks for your opinions, they're appreciated.
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