Oozing Sex

[AnnieO]

Hehehehe. I am on a posting

rampage today (blame it on the rain). But another thought has popped into my mind. I am an exotic dancer and I want

to acquire some mones that will make men think the most lascivious thoughts possible when in my presence. I know

some blends are geared towards friendliness and PG-13 interactions with the opposite sex, what sort of 'mones would

you recommend for more NC-17 reactions? :whip:

[TangledWeb]

Annie,

I could give a

woman oral sex for hours and hours. It is more exciting to me then intercourse.

Its a known fact that scents

will trigger memories -- especially if the scent were associated with something pleasant or romantic or sexual.



To me the scent that would make me go bonkers is the scent of oral sex with a woman. Because I associate it

with the best memories of my life. I can't help but wonder if you took some of your own natural scent and spread

it around your body if that wouldn't have the effect you are after? Maybe enhance it with something with copulins

in it?

Just an interesting (although I am not sure how practical) thought.

[AnnieO]

Interesting thought, and an

economical one at that! But I'm interested in products, it just seems a little more sanitary to me. Though, who

knows, I may try this out over the weekend.

[Phan]

You have the perfect situation to

test them out.

1. Order a copulin based product, perhaps also an androstenol based product, and any others

you'd like to test.

2. Week 1, record the amount of money you make per hour without any products.

3. Week

2, your products will have arrived, so try using the copulin product daily and again record your hourly wages for

each day, along with the amount of the product used, the location on the body, etc. and any interesting events that

you observe.

4. Week 3, same thing with the androstenol product.

5. Let us know the results!

More than a

week per test would be even better; you can go back and add extra weeks of data after the first 3 to get a better

idea of any effects, and try mixing products after a month or two. I remember some (male) bartenders mentioning

getting much higher tips with certain products, and likewise with sales people. Also, there are other pheromones you

might try besides copulins and androstenol, but I'm not a woman and don't feel qualified to comment on them or the

products.

[catlord17]

EW or something else that has

cops in it definitely sounds like a good choice to me. Maybe make a gallon of dilute solution and use it as a body

spray? Never been to an erotic dance club before, but I have to say, there's nothing like the smell of the "Kiss

of Life" to ge me going... I'm with TangledWeb on this one.

[tim929]

Im with catlord17 and TangledWeb

too...there is something very very...um...er...uh...YUMMY about the scent that women have in thier nether

regions.But alot of that has to do with natural copulins.Copulins are what make men go "KooKoo for cocopufs" when

they get thier faces down there,so I would bet that a copulin based product used liberaly would do the trick.You

might have to use it kinda heavy though,as smoke in the air may have an impact on the effect.

I liked Phan's

idea of keeping track of tips and gratuities with and without pheromones.That could be a very useful indicator of

thier effect.When I have gone to clubs and been paid special attention by the women dancing,I have never realy had a

problem getting my imagination working in terms of sex...but I am a cheap skate so I never tip.I let the other guys

around me take care of that.If your tips go up,you may have stumbled uppon something realy cool that might break

someone like me.

[TangledWeb]

I don't go to gentleman's

clubs often (maybe once every 5 - 8 years) but the few times I have gone I have been a good tipper. Most guys were

tipping $1. If I'm sitting near the dancers I give each woman at least $2 - $3 for each dance. Some guys seem to

tip only the women they like. I figure any woman who removes her clothes for me and smiles at me should get a little

something back. They are all beautful in one way or another.

The last time I went I took $200 with me and spent

$200. I spend most of my time working and when I go out I usually figure its okay to splurge. :)

The reason I

went, in fact, was because I had received my order of 'mones and someone on here was talking about wearing them to

a gentleman's club. I figured it might be fun to test them out. I didn't even know where any of the clubs were.

I found one (internet search) about 35 miles away and I went by myself one evening.

I had a lap dance and the

dancer kept smelling my 'mones. She put her nose next to my neck and inhaled long and slow. She looked rather

flushed, too. She took her leg and started sliding it up and down between my legs. After about 15 minutes of that

let's just say I had an experience that was a first for me at a club. She had to go up on stage right after and she

asked me to wait for her. I couldn't wait and ended up having to leave. I've always wondered why she wanted me to

wait.

[Gegogi]

So she could lure you into the

champagne room for a private session, relieving of all your benjamins. In Hawaii it's $200-$400 to visit the

champagne room with a stripper. A bit pricey for conversation and a HJ! The 'mones may have peaked her interest but

she will never forget to collect the toll! With that said, many strippers have given me their phone numbers and,

while some are looking for a BF or date, others are merely trying to make a little cash on the side...

[catlord17]

I don't go

to gentleman's clubs often (maybe once every 5 - 8 years) but the few times I have gone I have been a good tipper.

Most guys were tipping $1. If I'm sitting near the dancers I give each woman at least $2 - $3 for each dance. Some

guys seem to tip only the women they like. I figure any woman who removes her clothes for me and smiles at me should

get a little something back. They are all beautful in one way or another.

The last time I went I took $200 with

me and spent $200. I spend most of my time working and when I go out I usually figure its okay to splurge. :)

The

reason I went, in fact, was because I had received my order of 'mones and someone on here was talking about wearing

them to a gentleman's club. I figured it might be fun to test them out. I didn't even know where any of the

clubs were. I found one (internet search) about 35 miles away and I went by myself one evening.

I had a lap

dance and the dancer kept smelling my 'mones. She put her nose next to my neck and inhaled long and slow. She

looked rather flushed, too. She took her leg and started sliding it up and down between my legs. After about 15

minutes of that let's just say I had an experience that was a first for me at a club. She had to go up on stage

right after and she asked me to wait for her. I couldn't wait and ended up having to leave. I've always wondered

why she wanted me to wait.

And naturally, you never mention how much of what pheromone YOU were wearing,

right? lol

[TangledWeb]

Catlord17,

Sorry. It was

2 sprays of TE and a couple dabs of NPA I believe. This was a couple months ago and to be honest I'm not 100% on

how much I had put on. I know I put it on stronger because of the smoke.

[lyric820]

Hey Annie,

Get some SOE/w

-- the gel paks will do you nicely. IMO they have more staying power than the roll-on bottle. I get more reactions

from the gel packs. I think you'll find this to be very helpful.

Let a sista know how it turns out.



LYRIC

[AnnieO]

Thank you so much for the advice!

I have alot of variables to consider but I will post results!

[TangledWeb]

Annie,

Any results yet?

[Numanoid]

So she could lure

you into the champagne room for a private session, relieving of all your benjamins. In Hawaii it's $200-$400 to

visit the champagne room with a stripper. A bit pricey for conversation and a HJ! The 'mones may have peaked her

interest but she will never forget to collect the toll! With that said, many strippers have given me their phone

numbers and, while some are looking for a BF or date, others are merely trying to make a little cash on the

side...

I couldn't agree more! Be glad you left when you did

or you might have left broke. Most strippers see you as income, and nothing else.

[tim929]

okay...so...Im curious

AnnieO...any results? I wanna know:rant:

[dolly]

Well, Annie....if you're still in

the "testing" mode, get EW.....if it's mixed right, it drives men crazy. I make mine strong, and it always gets a

very strong, very positive, very SEXUAL reaction.

[Pretzel]

Well, Annie....if

you're still in the "testing" mode, get EW.....if it's mixed right, it drives men crazy. I make mine strong, and

it always gets a very strong, very positive, very SEXUAL reaction.

dolly,

I must be doing something

wrong...I've mixed EW in the 1:10 ratio, and then use with cover scent, but it still smells vinegary/stinky....I

haven't noticed any hits with it..?

[dolly]

dolly,

I must

be doing something wrong...I've mixed EW in the 1:10 ratio, and then use with cover scent, but it still smells

vinegary/stinky....I haven't noticed any hits with it..?

Well, I mix mine directly with the cover

scent, with no prior dilution, and I have mixed it stronger than 1:10. I've found it works best with oil based

scents....the products with alcohol tend to make the vinegar smell worse. I've found that it mixes best with

vanilla, musk, amber, or other such scents. Mine kind of smells in the bottle, but after it is on me for about 10

min or so, the vinegar smell fades into just kind of a fruity undertone. I always get results with it.....

[sweet thing]

I want to try what tangleweb

suggested. Who cares about it being sanitary. It is free and the stuff that mones are built on. A little behind the

ears and off I go. "Get yee to a convent." Or I say get me to a man.

[FullTiltRedhead]

Enticing, good thread, I

love sex tips threads.

What I have:

For looks, breasts, hair, eyes, voice, some people say ass

For

actions:
Deep throat
I\'m very tight
Stamina
Enthusiasm
Complete willingness to please
Passion
Orgasms that

last a long time (good positive reinforcement for the guy)

How you give head for two hours is that you control

him.

It is actually not a blow job. It is cock worship. The difference is that a blow job is for making him cum.

Cock worship may or may not end in orgasm, but orgasm is not the goal. The goal is to give him pleasure and to show

him that you love his cock.

Cock worship has a different perspective than blow jobs, too, because a blow job is

for him. Cock worship is for YOU. Understand that men want to provide for us. So you get across to him that you

really love this and you need it, you need to have as much as you want of it. He will be more motivated to control

himself if he understands that he is giving you something by letting you enjoy his cock for as long as you

want.

It\'s also good, especially with a younger guy, to let him have one orgasm first - have sex with him

first - and let the cock worship be the reinforcement for his giving you sex the way you want it. If you save this

for the second round, his need to come isn\'t as urgent so he\'ll be more relaxed.

You have to be able to

guage his reactions some, e.g., when his balls really start to tighten, switch the stroke you\'re using, change

the rhythm - or his breathing changes, or his muscles stiffen - signs that you\'re getting him past the point of

no return - you don\'t want to take him that far, you just keep him right on the edge....basically you just keep

bringing his arousal level up and easing it back, bringing it up and easing it back.

I like to lay him on his

back with his legs open and one knee bent, so that I can lie between his legs with my arm under his bent leg and the

inside of his thigh for my pillow if my neck gets tired and I want to put my head down. I\'ve fallen asleep like

that with SDR\'s cock in my mouth.

That position is good because it\'s easy just to shift position slightly

and you\'re on all fours, so you can be more active, or if you need to rest a little, you can, as I said rest your

cheek on his inner thigh and he can stay in your mouth like that with you not moving, just sucking gently, or

massaging the underside of his cock with your tongue, etc.

I start with my hands, touching him just with my

fingertips - try to make him shiver. Next put a silky lube on your fingertips and use the lube and a little more

pressure. I like flavored lubes because they help me salivate, and you want your mouth to be wet. Touch gets

progressively more firm until you have his cock in your first and you can use your whole hand on him - then both

hands, and keep changing the stroke. If the first couple of strokes are with your whole hand, let the third one be

with his cock between your second and third fingers, and the fourth one be with your thumb on the underside and four

fingers lightly on the top, or do a couple of strokes with your whole hand, firmly, stroking downward (not coming

back up), so a couple of down strokes, and then three strokes from the base of the shaft coming up, back to the base

and up, etc. until he is ROCK hard and starting to drip. I wait until I see that first drop at the tip of his cock

before I use my mouth, and then it\'s the tip of my tongue to lick that first drop, and then my mouth very slowly,

agonizingly slowly, take first the head, lick, make sure everything\'s wet, go down a little further, etc, until

your nose is in his groin, and then come back up. Get everything wet - slippery is better.

It\'s not all about

sucking his dick, either. You give his balls attention, and the insides of his thighs, and his ass, everything ...


But those things will increase his arousal level fast so you have to be careful with them.

You have to listen

to him and know what the sounds he makes mean, that\'s another way - if you get the groan in agony of pleasure,

you maybe can do whatever produced it one more time, but then no more because it will take him too high too fast, so

you go to something else, and that will frustrate him, but something else good is coming, so after awhile he\'ll

stop fighting you or rushing you and he\'ll just lie back. You want to put him in a state of bliss and keep him

there.

He will be incoherent and he\'ll say all kinds of things to you, none of which are fair game to take

seriously because he won\'t know what he\'s saying at the time, so if he says he loves you, or he proposes

marriage, he just means he likes it. Don\'t expect him to remember what he\'s said to you after it\'s over, if

you get my drift. Anything said in the heat of passion let go in one ear and out the other. He has to trust you that

he can say whatever words come out of his mouth, or make whatever noise he\'s going to make, just being

spontaneous. Encourage him to make noise, because that helps you know where you are with him, so ... a guy new to

this will want to express himself but doesn\'t know what to say - any sound from him at all, reinforce it with

um-hmmm, while his cock is in your mouth. That feels good to him. Encourage him to talk to you or make sounds by

reinforcing.

New guys don\'t know what to do with their hands - I like my hair stroked and my scalp massaged, I

really like his hands all in my hair. So if he\'s sort of floundering, take his hand and show him what to do and

again reinforce it with pleasure sounds of your own. Teach him to stroke your cheek, caress your hair, talk to you,

etc. That keeps the pleasure cycle going between the two of you so you get reinforcement back. The level of praise

you get by doing this well is worth the effort, and the level of gratitude.

Deep throat - you have to control

your breathing, because you won\'t be able to breathe, he\'ll be blocking your air way. Feel with your finger or

if you can curl your tongue back in your mouth, where your palate ends and your soft palate begins, on the roof of

your mouth. What you want is to be able to use that ridge between the hard pallete and the soft to massage the head

of his cock with. Use pressure with your tongue on the underside, press him up against the roof of your mouth,

inhale, and slide your mouth down his cock until you can feel him pressing against your soft palate. You can bounce

him off that ridge. Or you can just keep him in that deep and suck him without moving your head. Lots of things you

can do. Your throat will be sore the next day but it only lasts a day or two.

You can have him stand at the edge

of the bed and you lie on the bed with your mouth just very relaxed and open, and he can hold your head and f*ck

your mouth just like that without you really having to do anything but relax and let your mouth and tongue be soft

and warm.

There are a gajillion things you can do with your mouth.

If you do want to make him cum, (you asked

me so I\'ll tell you), a finger inserted and focus on the head with a steady rhythm will usually finish

him.

But basically what happens is that he is putting himself under your control for that period of time and

letting you control his body. You have to train a guy to do that, not to want to push to orgasm, not to thrust in

your mouth unless you let him, etc., just to be completely relaxed. If he knows that he\'s not going to cum until

you make him cum (because if he acts up at all, you take your mouth away - he\'ll do whatever you tell him to do,

including lie still, as long as you continue to suck him) then he will be able to get to a state of just sort of

sailing on bliss. It\'s something of an altered state - it\'s dreamlike - and you lose track of time.

And

after you\'ve had him at that arousal level for a couple of hours, once you do make him cum, don\'t expect

anything else from him the rest of the day, because he won\'t be able to get up. Just slide out of bed so he can

have the whole bed to himself, and quietly shut the door behind you and let him sleep because he won\'t be able to

get up for a few hours.

Ok, that - plus - learn your positions and don\'t be concerned about what you look

like in any given one. If he didn\'t like the way you looked, he wouldn\'t be with you, so trust him and forget

about what you look like, just do what he wants you to do, or do what feels good to you and don\'t think, just

feel.

Re Elana playing with toys - that\'s great, masturbating for them is great, wearing sexy clothes is

great, and being inventive and creative and enthusiastic in general just makes them happy, so ... good attitude.

I\'m known for good attitude.

NO STRINGS.

Because no strings is the clincher. When they leave, pretend

they don\'t exist. When they call again, be cheerful and happy and your life is fine, sure you\'ll see them.

Don\'t ask for anything, don\'t push in any way.

That is the way to keep them coming back as long as you want

them to.

Or, at least, it works for me.

[Lor]

:blink:

oh.........my........god.....
i will not have another thought in my head all day,and im working 2 double shifts

with 3 hours in between!
why o why did i have to read this post before work???? i dare not wear 'mones, my vibe

alone is making me feel like an X-MEN mutant!!! thanks for the thought,RED,i got to get me a man.......

[tounge]

Holy Cripe! You're gonna have all

the young (and most of the old) dudes gettin their rocks off here tonight. They'll have to put off getting lucky

with Pheromones until tomorrow.

[Numanoid]

Enticing,

good thread, I love sex tips threads.

What I have:

For looks, breasts, hair, eyes, voice, some people say

ass

For actions:
Deep throat
I\'m very tight
Stamina
Enthusiasm
Complete willingness to

please
Passion
Orgasms that last a long time (good positive reinforcement for the guy)

How you give head for

two hours is that you control him.

It is actually not a blow job. It is cock worship. The difference is that a

blow job is for making him cum. Cock worship may or may not end in orgasm, but orgasm is not the goal. The goal is

to give him pleasure and to show him that you love his cock.

Cock worship has a different perspective than blow

jobs, too, because a blow job is for him. Cock worship is for YOU. Understand that men want to provide for us. So

you get across to him that you really love this and you need it, you need to have as much as you want of it. He will

be more motivated to control himself if he understands that he is giving you something by letting you enjoy his cock

for as long as you want.

It\'s also good, especially with a younger guy, to let him have one orgasm first -

have sex with him first - and let the cock worship be the reinforcement for his giving you sex the way you want it.

If you save this for the second round, his need to come isn\'t as urgent so he\'ll be more relaxed.

You have

to be able to guage his reactions some, e.g., when his balls really start to tighten, switch the stroke you\'re

using, change the rhythm - or his breathing changes, or his muscles stiffen - signs that you\'re getting him past

the point of no return - you don\'t want to take him that far, you just keep him right on the edge....basically

you just keep bringing his arousal level up and easing it back, bringing it up and easing it back.

I like to lay

him on his back with his legs open and one knee bent, so that I can lie between his legs with my arm under his bent

leg and the inside of his thigh for my pillow if my neck gets tired and I want to put my head down. I\'ve fallen

asleep like that with SDR\'s cock in my mouth.

That position is good because it\'s easy just to shift

position slightly and you\'re on all fours, so you can be more active, or if you need to rest a little, you can,

as I said rest your cheek on his inner thigh and he can stay in your mouth like that with you not moving, just

sucking gently, or massaging the underside of his cock with your tongue, etc.

I start with my hands, touching

him just with my fingertips - try to make him shiver. Next put a silky lube on your fingertips and use the lube and

a little more pressure. I like flavored lubes because they help me salivate, and you want your mouth to be wet.

Touch gets progressively more firm until you have his cock in your first and you can use your whole hand on him -

then both hands, and keep changing the stroke. If the first couple of strokes are with your whole hand, let the

third one be with his cock between your second and third fingers, and the fourth one be with your thumb on the

underside and four fingers lightly on the top, or do a couple of strokes with your whole hand, firmly, stroking

downward (not coming back up), so a couple of down strokes, and then three strokes from the base of the shaft coming

up, back to the base and up, etc. until he is ROCK hard and starting to drip. I wait until I see that first drop at

the tip of his cock before I use my mouth, and then it\'s the tip of my tongue to lick that first drop, and then

my mouth very slowly, agonizingly slowly, take first the head, lick, make sure everything\'s wet, go down a little

further, etc, until your nose is in his groin, and then come back up. Get everything wet - slippery is better.



It\'s not all about sucking his dick, either. You give his balls attention, and the insides of his thighs, and

his ass, everything ...
But those things will increase his arousal level fast so you have to be careful with

them.

You have to listen to him and know what the sounds he makes mean, that\'s another way - if you get the

groan in agony of pleasure, you maybe can do whatever produced it one more time, but then no more because it will

take him too high too fast, so you go to something else, and that will frustrate him, but something else good is

coming, so after awhile he\'ll stop fighting you or rushing you and he\'ll just lie back. You want to put him in

a state of bliss and keep him there.

He will be incoherent and he\'ll say all kinds of things to you, none of

which are fair game to take seriously because he won\'t know what he\'s saying at the time, so if he says he

loves you, or he proposes marriage, he just means he likes it. Don\'t expect him to remember what he\'s said to

you after it\'s over, if you get my drift. Anything said in the heat of passion let go in one ear and out the

other. He has to trust you that he can say whatever words come out of his mouth, or make whatever noise he\'s

going to make, just being spontaneous. Encourage him to make noise, because that helps you know where you are with

him, so ... a guy new to this will want to express himself but doesn\'t know what to say - any sound from him at

all, reinforce it with um-hmmm, while his cock is in your mouth. That feels good to him. Encourage him to talk to

you or make sounds by reinforcing.

New guys don\'t know what to do with their hands - I like my hair stroked

and my scalp massaged, I really like his hands all in my hair. So if he\'s sort of floundering, take his hand and

show him what to do and again reinforce it with pleasure sounds of your own. Teach him to stroke your cheek, caress

your hair, talk to you, etc. That keeps the pleasure cycle going between the two of you so you get reinforcement

back. The level of praise you get by doing this well is worth the effort, and the level of gratitude.

Deep

throat - you have to control your breathing, because you won\'t be able to breathe, he\'ll be blocking your air

way. Feel with your finger or if you can curl your tongue back in your mouth, where your palate ends and your soft

palate begins, on the roof of your mouth. What you want is to be able to use that ridge between the hard pallete and

the soft to massage the head of his cock with. Use pressure with your tongue on the underside, press him up against

the roof of your mouth, inhale, and slide your mouth down his cock until you can feel him pressing against your soft

palate. You can bounce him off that ridge. Or you can just keep him in that deep and suck him without moving your

head. Lots of things you can do. Your throat will be sore the next day but it only lasts a day or two.

You can

have him stand at the edge of the bed and you lie on the bed with your mouth just very relaxed and open, and he can

hold your head and f*ck your mouth just like that without you really having to do anything but relax and let your

mouth and tongue be soft and warm.

There are a gajillion things you can do with your mouth.

If you do want

to make him cum, (you asked me so I\'ll tell you), a finger inserted and focus on the head with a steady rhythm

will usually finish him.

But basically what happens is that he is putting himself under your control for that

period of time and letting you control his body. You have to train a guy to do that, not to want to push to orgasm,

not to thrust in your mouth unless you let him, etc., just to be completely relaxed. If he knows that he\'s not

going to cum until you make him cum (because if he acts up at all, you take your mouth away - he\'ll do whatever

you tell him to do, including lie still, as long as you continue to suck him) then he will be able to get to a state

of just sort of sailing on bliss. It\'s something of an altered state - it\'s dreamlike - and you lose track of

time.

And after you\'ve had him at that arousal level for a couple of hours, once you do make him cum,

don\'t expect anything else from him the rest of the day, because he won\'t be able to get up. Just slide out of

bed so he can have the whole bed to himself, and quietly shut the door behind you and let him sleep because he

won\'t be able to get up for a few hours.

Ok, that - plus - learn your positions and don\'t be concerned

about what you look like in any given one. If he didn\'t like the way you looked, he wouldn\'t be with you, so

trust him and forget about what you look like, just do what he wants you to do, or do what feels good to you and

don\'t think, just feel.

Re Elana playing with toys - that\'s great, masturbating for them is great,

wearing sexy clothes is great, and being inventive and creative and enthusiastic in general just makes them happy,

so ... good attitude. I\'m known for good attitude.

NO STRINGS.

Because no strings is the clincher. When

they leave, pretend they don\'t exist. When they call again, be cheerful and happy and your life is fine, sure

you\'ll see them. Don\'t ask for anything, don\'t push in any way.

That is the way to keep them coming

back as long as you want them to.

Or, at least, it works for me.

Excellent post FTR. I remember you

posted this a couple of years ago. The most erotic I've read on Love-scent, no doubt about it.

[errgo]

Awsome post :kiss: