Using mones for - More women OR Better Looking women ??

[KeepItReal]

Just wondering .....

I figure the common sense answer is pheros make you more

attractive universally so you get more attention from most/all women ...... would be cool if there was a

product/combo which worked only on the 9's an 10's though :)

[Sigma]

There's way too much variance

from person to person to even build a product that would universally work for everyone, much less something that

specifically attracts a subjectively defined group (your concept of 9's and 10's) of women.

[Gegogi]

My experience is they don't make

you more attractive to more people. They make you more attractive to those normally attracted to you, making it

easier to be socially effective. In other words 'mones don't improve your finanical assets, education, wit,

biceps, tone of voice, facial profile, choice of words or sense of fashion.

[Sketchxl]

gegogi if mones only attract

those who already attracted 2 then whats the point of using it. u can enhance there attraction by using ur own body

language no need 4 mones

[Gegogi]

Read my text, "They make you more

attractive to those normally attracted to you, making it easier to be socially effective." But, yeah, to each their

own. You can do it the old way and it works fine. I like it faster and easier. They can really speed things up or

unseat an otherwise reserved person. Often people are attracted to you but you're too stupid to notice unless they

jump out and bite you on the ass. The 'mones help entice those so inclined to rise up and chew your cheeks raw. For

example an attractive young woman visits me in my office and she hides her feelings, acting friendly but formal and

polite. Business as usual. Next time I wear NPA and she acts befuddled, nervous and reveals very emotional and

personal things about herself. It's obvious she is attracted and starting to lose control. A few visits later she

was all over me and actually asked me to eat her.

On the other hand, if she isn't attracted to you, no

amount of 'mones or skillful body language will make any difference. She may hate big tummies, red hair, your cocky

attitude or your doggie breath. 'Mones won't change that. You are fundamentally the same person, merely amped

up.

[gaf]

Sure, having a product that only

worked on a 9 or 10 would be great!
But everyones idea of a hottie is slightly different and I tend to agree with

gegogi...
I belive that mones just help you "get a foot in the door" , but it's your personality that keeps it

open.

[tim929]

I dunno Gegogi...altho you may

not seem more attractive to people,there is a much better chance of effecting them anyway.Not necessarily

romanticly/sexualy,but in terms of being an enhanced presence.I have seen that on a number of occasions where altho

there wasnt exactly "romantic" interest,people did take me more seriously.IMHO they will have some kind of effect on

almost everybody,just not necessarily what you might have been hoping for.

[Gegogi]

Actually I've always felt a lot

of women were attracted to me but held themselves back for various reasons. We all experience attraction to a member

of the opposite sex but discipline ourselves not to respond to most biological urges. Why? They may repulse us

because of lifestyle, be too young or old, are married to your brother or are in the wrong race or socioeconomic

group, etc. So my belief is most attractions are not acted upon due to social complications. I think artificial

pheromones create more urgency and thus help break down social barriers. They simply provide more impetus to follow

through on an attraction.

Now I was mainly talking about sexual attraction. Of course 'mones also influence

those around you socially and this can be positive or negative. I wear SOE everyday at work and enjoy the edge it

provides in my professional interactions. However my main point was about sexual attraction. Of course wearing

pheromones will enhance your presence, effecting people around you. However, it does not create attraction where it

never existed before. Otherwise you could sprinkle NPA on a stiff and watch grieving women hump themselves raw at a

funneral.

[Visionary7903]

I also dont know,

Gegogi.

I mean it sounds to me like you had plenty of action and interest from women in your life without

pheromones (although not as much 'lust' as you have gotten from NPA) - maybe you do naturally produce, even at 51,

a lot of 'comfort mones' if women trust you quickly etc. If you have been a health freak for a long time I am sure

you have a good pheromone signature even at your age. I mean Ive seen people even in their 60s and 70s have this

social aura about them and I am sure it has something to do with them producing comfort mones like Androstenol

(obviously their social skills and 'friendly' looks would help project this aura a great deal too). I have noticed

a lot of men of East Asian and Indian descent have a good 'comfort' natural pheromone signature.

On the other

hand for me I am very sure that mones got me 3 girls in the past 18 months that I just would not have got without

them. I mean I've been with quite a few more women since Ive started using mones than before and the quality is

slightly better. I do feel that my own pheromone signature is quite poor compared to the average person though.

Without artificial mones, I am not good at making most people feel really comfortable around me even if I give it my

best (lack of 'comfort mones'), never really have Alphas wanting to talk to me more than other guys, never really

stand out as a leader (lack of -Rone and -None). I also have sparse body hair so it may have something to do with

that and I do notice that I do get treated better for a short period after I sweat a lot (the natural mones coming

out obviously).

Visionary

[gfunk]

Dunno #3 here

Gegogi!

Although you did reference this as to be opinionated from your own experience you always express your

gospel on "this only enhances"-theme as if it was common fact. I find your posts and comments to be very interesting

and informative, but I don't agree with this. Which is always allowed, so I hope you're not getting offended by my

expressing my views on the issue.:type:

In my experience, I've had several females I've had intimate

relationships with tell me that they initially never thought they'd fall for me. I'd like to point back to

the pheromone research that indicates that you alter your own pheromone signature by adding synthetic pheromones,

thus making it possible for females that would normally not be attracted to your own, personal pheromone signature

to become attracted to you.

However I do agree with you totally to all the newbees not to expect and rely on this

being instant magic potion alone! Especially for those who may lack one or more of the different factors that

determines success with the other sex, i.e. looks, confidence, communication, game etc.

In my opinion the

pheromones really work unbelieveably good, but I'm also good looking, confident and a good communicator! First half

of 2005, while re-discovering mones I intentually avoided throwing any game so as to really get the idea of what

each product does, and I still got great results..:thumbsup:

Back to the original topic I agree of course,

special targeted, working products would be awesome KeepItReal, yet highly impossible. Now that's common sense. But

a tip is to try not wearing too much -none, because this has shown to attract fat females and older ladies

especially! :eek:

:drunk:

[surfs_up]

Nice thing is you can develop better social skills with the help of pheromones. Once you've practiced

those skills you'll have them regardless of the 'mones. Makes sense, no ? Assume that there is a level of

desirability that is out of reach, one floor over your head socially. Mones let you go up there and walk around.

You're more comfortable, more confident. It isn't foreign turf. You may have had some incredibly mind expanding

conversations. That's gaining real, actionable social experience you can take to the bank.

[tim929]

Originaly posted by

gfunk


Although you did reference this as to be opinionated from your own experience you always express

your gospel on "this only enhances"-theme as if it was common fact. I find your posts and comments to be very

interesting and informative, but I don't agree with this. Which is always allowed, so I hope you're not getting

offended by my expressing my views on the issue.

I have never know Gegogi to be offended by another

person expresing thier views...he's a pretty open minded sort.It has been my experience as well that women that

would ordinarily not be all that terribly attracted to me for a varienty of reasons will show interest.And that

women who are attracted tend to show greater interest than usual.Many times the response I have had was something

along the lines of one recently telling me that I "smelled yummy."

There will always be a certain number of

women who for whatever reson WONT be attracted to you no matter what.Scocial,personal,cultural reasons that override

thier natural responses.Illness like having a cold,or just the fact that whatever your signature happens to be at

the time it just isnt what grabs them.I dont realy thing Gegogi is wrong per se',pheromones primarily effect your

"scocial effectiveness" as he said.But a big part of what women do when the size you up scocialy is to put you in a

catagory in regards to your potential as a mate and father for thier children.Men do it all the time.There is an

almost automatic response in men to size up any woman and put her in the "will sleep with" or "wont sleep with"

catagories.Its probably safe to assume that women run through a simmilar subconsious check list every time they meet

a man.

But that doesnt mean that we are going to do anything about the impulse to sleep with someone.If its a

co-worker and there are political issues to deal with.A relative like a sister-in-law or even a cousin (there was a

thread in the forums somewhere recently regarding that.)A friends wife,your kids third grade teacher,the lady cop

thats writing you a three hundred dollar ticket for speeding.Hell...how many porn films have been made about the

baby sitter or the daughters best friend? Attraction doesnt necessarily lead to action or even an obviouse,outward

response.That doesnt mean it isnt there.

The scocial responses that we get are a natural extension of that.When

co-workers defer to us as though we possess some kind of extra leadership ability.The random acts of respect or even

admiration that people display.Getting the job after an unusualy successful job interview.These displays are an

indication of scocial superiority that translate into "you are the leader of the pack," or "you are superior stock."

Being placed on that pedistal is what sexualy successful people end up with.The "alpha" male is not only the leader

of the focus group and manager of the department,but a superior mate as well.He gets a bigger pay check and

everybody seeks his approval.

Like I said,they may not show it Gegogi...but I bet they all want you and thier

just being shy:thumbsup:

[Gegogi]

Actually I've always felt

a lot of women were attracted to me but held themselves back for various reasons. We all experience attraction to a

member of the opposite sex but discipline ourselves not to respond to most biological urges.
I think I

agreed with most of you, sort of. I'll rephrase. There is often some type of attraction between men and women but

social conditioning prevents actuation of said attraction. Pheromones encourage and urge the attraction to

consummate.

Nevertheless you can't make something out of nothing. If a 600 lb woman covered in warts and sores

dons a gallon of EW and SOE how many of you guys will be attracted to her just because of her hot 'mone signature?

Now if a cute 18 year old, shallow, dumb and the daughter of your boss falls across your path, most of us would

brush her off. Oil her up with 'mones and many of us would struggle but toss the social conditioning and dully

repsond to the urges of her body...

[tim929]

Perfectly said gegogi:thumbsup: