View Full Version : Complimentary to Pheromones
ohmmmm
12-05-2005, 08:39 AM
I
understand that getting the right mix to work for someone regarding pheromones is tough enough, but I wanted to
start a thread that would provide some tips that people have picked up along the way that work well with pheromones.
I'm thinking in terms of grooming and etc.
I'll start this thread off by indicating the obvious, which is
brushing your teath and keeping your mouth fresh smelling. I tend to test things a lot and found that pepermint has
provided significantly superior results. I'll use peppermint breath mints during the day and brush twice a day
with regular flavor Crest.
Secondly, I've found that as I get older, my hormone production is not up to
snuff....LOL. So I've been taking Pregnenolone with very good results.
Third, a bit of excercise is
essential. I would not suggest working out until you are totally exhausted but to work out so you get a good sweat
and positively effect your muscles and etc.
Finally, I would suggest learniing to walk and sit with your back
straight. Tends to make you more alert and look better to other people.
Thats it for now. Pregnenolone is
probably for people over 35 or 40 years old and definately not for those under 30....imho....
Best
wishes...:drunk:
belgareth
12-05-2005, 10:22 AM
I've read a lot of mixed
information about Pregnenolone, could you tell me what dose you take, do you take breaks from it and have you seen
any side effects? Other supplements that work well are DMAE and Insoitol, Tribex helps with the testosterone levels.
SInce I don't have a thyroid I've been taking T4 most of my life but have added T3 to it recently and my energy
levels have really jumped. Thyroid drugs ARE NOT good for most people as they can lead to all sorts of other
complications, some severe. Another point is to cut down on alcohol and tobacco as they age you quickly.
Grooming is a fun topic because everybody sees it diffrently. Personally, I've never had an expensive haircut and
trim my beard myself. Both are kept short mainly because I'm too lazy to mess with them much. My dress and attitude
are both extremely casual The majority of the time jeans or khakis and a pull over shirt with tennis shoes. When I
do wear a suit they are always english taylored ones. We Americans have little style compared to the English when it
comes to formal wear.
Attitude is the most important thing any of us can work on and it can't be an act! A good
attitude towards otherds combined with self confidence and a good sense of humor is the best thing you can do for
yourself. It takes years to grow it but when you have developed it people notice. Women are atracted to the guy who
can be comfortable and relaxed in any situation, who has control of himself and who can take control when needed.
That doesn't mean to be a dominating jerk, that means when the situation warrants it you can and do take action
without waiting for others. Learn to be sure of yourself, develop good judgment then use it all the time. Everybody
will respect you for it and women will love it.
Knowledge is also a good thing to have. Expand your mind at
every opportunity. Instead of sitting in front of the TV, try reading a book or studying something worthwhile. Keep
up on current events and be able to discuss them.
Exercise is important, that healthy glow it gives you is a
fine attribute and the physical conditioning adds to your attractiveness. Some people can exercise just for the
sakes of working out. I can't, it bores me senseless. I go to a dojo several times a week and work out there
instead. It's more aerobic than muscle building but it adds a grace and surety to your movements that few other
things can.
To sum it all up, learn to have real depth in your persona. Develop every part of yourself as much
as you can. The shallow dating ploys are fine if you are going to always be moving from one thing to the next but it
wears thin real fast. If you want relationships, both romantic and platonic you will need a lot more than that.
DrSmellThis
12-05-2005, 03:46 PM
I've read a
lot of mixed information about Pregnenolone, could you tell me what dose you take, do you take breaks from it and
have you seen any side effects? Other supplements that work well are DMAE and Insoitol, Tribex helps with the
testosterone levels. SInce I don't have a thyroid I've been taking T4 most of my life but have added T3 to it
recently and my energy levels have really jumped. Thyroid drugs ARE NOT good for most people as they can lead to all
sorts of other complications, some severe. Another point is to cut down on alcohol and tobacco as they age you
quickly.
Grooming is a fun topic because everybody sees it diffrently. Personally, I've never had an expensive
haircut and trim my beard myself. Both are kept short mainly because I'm too lazy to mess with them much. My dress
and attitude are both extremely casual The majority of the time jeans or khakis and a pull over shirt with tennis
shoes. When I do wear a suit they are always english taylored ones. We Americans have little style compared to the
English when it comes to formal wear.
Attitude is the most important thing any of us can work on and it can't
be an act! A good attitude towards otherds combined with self confidence and a good sense of humor is the best thing
you can do for yourself. It takes years to grow it but when you have developed it people notice. Women are atracted
to the guy who can be comfortable and relaxed in any situation, who has control of himself and who can take control
when needed. That doesn't mean to be a dominating jerk, that means when the situation warrants it you can and do
take action without waiting for others. Learn to be sure of yourself, develop good judgment then use it all the
time. Everybody will respect you for it and women will love it.
Knowledge is also a good thing to have. Expand
your mind at every opportunity. Instead of sitting in front of the TV, try reading a book or studying something
worthwhile. Keep up on current events and be able to discuss them.
Exercise is important, that healthy glow it
gives you is a fine attribute and the physical conditioning adds to your attractiveness. Some people can exercise
just for the sakes of working out. I can't, it bores me senseless. I go to a dojo several times a week and work out
there instead. It's more aerobic than muscle building but it adds a grace and surety to your movements that few
other things can.
To sum it all up, learn to have real depth in your persona. Develop every part of yourself as
much as you can. The shallow dating ploys are fine if you are going to always be moving from one thing to the next
but it wears thin real fast. If you want relationships, both romantic and platonic you will need a lot more than
that.Nice post.
ohmmmm
12-07-2005, 09:15 AM
After doing a lot of research on
Pregnenolone I decided to see if it will work for me. I'm 43 yrs. old and have slowed a bit. I won't go into the
research stuff as its available to anyone who knows how to google and investigate. The benefits of preg is that I
experienced a significant increase in energy and alertness. There were no side effects such as shaking or anything
else that I've seen. I think it also has a positive effect on overall attractiveness and natural pheromone
production as well... Its easier to maintain a positive attitude and inner calm even though I am more active. This
is important to me as I own and run my own business and I need to keep motivated and working hard all the time...
Bottom line is that there appears to be no downside so far and a lot of upside. A bottle of the stuff can be
bought at the Vitamine shoppe for less than $10 bucks and you can test it for a couple months. I use 1 capsul per
day in the morning at 30 mg. This amount may be too much, but I can't find a bottle with less active ingrediants
in it. A word of advice is to only take the stuff in the morning...before 9am because if you take it in the
afternoon you will likely have trouble falling asleep at night. Also, I will take a one-day break every week, there
wasnt' a big let down doing that. By the way, I used DMAE several years ago without much noticable
difference...
I'm not sure if Preg is advisable for people with thyroid or other problems as its unknown how the
body will use the stuff. Mainly, the body will break down the preg into various hormones. Researchers speculate
that the body could concievably make too much of one hormone, which is the primary danger although there have not
been any reports of this happening that I've read.
Hope this helps!
Best wishes
belgareth
12-07-2005, 09:51 AM
Thanks, useful stuff. I had
done a web search before asking you about it but found a lot of contradictory information.
No thyroid problem,
just no thyroid. According to the doctors, the absence of a thyroid doesn't qualify as a desease and I can ignore
the related warnings.
Almost everybody I've talked to about DMAE that was disatisfied took it in the pill form.
There seems to be an absorbtion issue as well as trouble getting the dose right. DMAE is a caustic but can be
combined with an acid to form a salt which is then disolved in a liquid. Absorbtion is almost 100% that way making
it a lot easier to get the right dose.
A small business owner too? I have a computer service company
myself.Great fun, isn't it?
A small business
owner too? I have a computer service company myself.Great fun, isn't it?
I did computer service for
years too, but got a little tired of pulling Monopoly houses and coins out of disk drives, trying to figure out what
someone meant about "the black thing that plugs into the white thing," and why it was going to be difficult to
attach a VGA monitor to their Commodore 64...
Coulda used some -mones on myself back then... If I'd only
known...
Still got quite a pile of old hardware kicking around...
belgareth
12-07-2005, 10:23 AM
I did computer
service for years too, but got a little tired of pulling Monopoly houses and coins out of disk drives, trying to
figure out what someone meant about "the black thing that plugs into the white thing," and why it was going to be
difficult to attach a VGA monitor to their Commodore 64...
Coulda used some -mones on myself back then... If
I'd only known...
Still got quite a pile of old hardware kicking around...
I've only owned my
company for about three years but it has grown into a great little business. Mones contributed a lot to that
success, in my opinion. Spent a bit more than twenty years in the corporate computer world before that. I don't
really do much with individuals but focus on small business users, no more than 15 computers on any one site.
PheroQuirk
12-07-2005, 09:57 PM
Hi.
I'm 32
and have been using pregnenolone for the past ten years. I got sick with some kind of intracellular bug and now my
hypothalmus doesn't function so well and I also take thryoid hormones. (Belgareth - you might want to try time
release T3, which is available from compounding pharmacies. The half life of the regular form is, I believe, only a
couple of hours).
There are certainly cognitive benefits (better alertness, calmness and recall) but, more
relevantly for this forum, I have (just as you did) noticed a marked increase in success with women once I started
taking pregnenolone (and my success rate goes down if I stop). I noticed a change in the smell of my sweat, and the
correlation was what got me interested in pheromones in the first place.
Pregnenolone is a direct precursor
to androstadienol and androstadienone (and they are precursors to our beloved none and nol), so it's not altogether
surprising that taking more preg should boost pheromonal output. It's also of note that (unlike many other
hormones, eg testosterone) pregnenolone is not under the control of any feedback loop. So I suppose ingesting more
will boost one's blood levels.
I wonder how well pregnolone applied externally could be converted to
pheromones by skin bacteria? It would be fun if it could, as it's cheap and easy to get hold of but I'm guessing
not.
I take 10-20mg daily (more than that is too much for me). I find a difference in effectiveness of
pregnenolone from different suppliers (one in particular seems best for me) so, if it doesn't work for you
initially, it may be worth experimenting.
> wasnt' a big let down doing that. By the way, I used
DMAE
> several years ago without much noticable difference...
Do you mean DHEA? (DHEA is one step down
from pregnenolone ; DMAE is another 'smart drug' that stimulates awareness).
If people are interested in
learning more about pregnenolone, the book "Smart Drugs 2" by Dean and Morgenthaler is worth a read.
Re
maintaining hormone (and therefore pheromone) production as one gets older. There is a school of thought that the
drop-off in testosterone production seen in men starting in their mid 30s ('andropause') is something that it is
possible and desirable to treat. It's still a controversial topic but there are a few books written about it (eg
Maximize your Vitality by Jonathan Wright) that could be worth a read. You can get levels tested by the Life
Extension Foundation (lef.org)
PheroQuirk
12-07-2005, 10:00 PM
If no luck with DMAE
itself, one might try a pharmaceutical version known as centrophenoxine or Lucidril that is metabolized by the body
and turns into DMAE. It's available in some countries by prescription or alternatively without prescription on the
net.
belgareth
12-08-2005, 12:28 AM
I'm aware of the timed release
of T3. Actually the normal T3 half life is 3-5 hours depending on a number of variables. By taking some at breakfast
and some at lunch the hyper feeling from it has faded completely by late evening. The timed release is far more
expensive and the slight added benefit isn't worth the cost. Most insurance companies won't cover the extra cost
for it, which can be quite high.
No, I meant DMAE when I was discussing it. The pill form is not well absorbed,
which isn't all the uncomon. Converting it to a salt allows absorbtion along the salt channel which is very close
to 100%. It gives you much better control of dosages. Going that route I get 140 mg per day reliably.
ohmmmm
12-09-2005, 10:56 AM
Me too, I was talking about DMAE
and not DHEA. I'm not a fan of DHEA. Belgareth, you got it right when you suspected that I was taking DMAE in
pill form...that's what I did and it did not do anything for me. I don't know if I'll try it again, but if I do,
I'll remember your advice... thank you!
My small business involves commercial real estate appraisal. So far so
good. The business is only six months old and I'm hope it gets a bit more busy, although I'm paying the bills.
I'm glad to hear some feedback on preg and its possible effect on human pheromone production from the inside
out... It seems to be doing something for me...
I have to repeat the tooth brushing advice as I had tested
that out extensively. I've tried a few different tooth pastes and also several different kinds of breath mints..
Again, its traditional minty Crest that works best for me and peppermint lozenges...such as the ones sold at
Starbucks. There is a significant difference if you use this stuff...
Best wishes everyone!
gamecity
12-09-2005, 12:02 PM
I have to disagree on the last
argument that mones are for people over 30. I'm younger than that and I can really feel the difference. Sorry- too
lazy to type my experiences and stuff. You just have to believe me when I say it works really well for me.
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