View Full Version : What the heck is A1?
tonicma
11-12-2005, 02:22 PM
I been looking
around and people are saying A1. But what is A1. I don't see it on the lovescent for men section.
Premizen
11-12-2005, 02:55 PM
A1 is Androstadienone -
http://www.love-scent.com/product_info.php/c/kits-supplies/p/androstadienone/cPath/11/products_id/64?osCsid=d32
4a876183e4f3248521e6ee23d846a
Information:
http://www.pherolibrary.com/human-pheromones/androstadienone.htm
jollysnowdevil
11-12-2005, 06:42 PM
find it in kits supplies
section of the store
And it seems the only "finished"
product available at L-S that includes A1 in it's mix is Pheromax. As far as we know. I've been told that it's a
"patented" (or whatever) product, so some products use stuff that "mimic" A1 (as part of their "secret
ingredients.")
Cloud9
11-14-2005, 01:10 PM
And it seems the only
"finished" product available at L-S that includes A1 in it's mix is Pheromax. As far as we know. I've been told
that it's a "patented" (or whatever) product, so some products use stuff that "mimic" A1 (as part of their "secret
ingredients.")
Are you saying that A1 itself is patented? I thought it was a straight naturally
produced pheromone that can be synthetically produced by any manufacturer..I'm sure I'm reading your comments
wrong.
Mtnjim
11-14-2005, 01:22 PM
Are you saying that
A1 itself is patented? I thought it was a straight naturally produced pheromone that can be synthetically produced
by any manufacturer..I'm sure I'm reading your comments wrong.
Selling it straight is OK. Its use in
a commercial product is patented (by the Relm people).
Cloud9
11-14-2005, 01:23 PM
So how has pheromax gotten away
with it?
So how has pheromax
gotten away with it?
I was getting my info in a private off-the-record conversation with a rep from a
pheromone product maker so I wasn't 100% certain of the details and am cautious in revealing too much for a variety
of reasons.
Mtnjim is probably correct in saying that it's inclusion in a "finished" product is legally tied
up by Realm (sounds right based on what I've seen elsewhere with other types of products). He may have the facts on
hand that I don't. Pheromax could have simply paid Realm for a "license" to use A1 in their product. Those who
don't want to pay the fees (I assume there probably are fees or at least lawyers involved...) will try to create
substitutes.
And I should also stand corrected. Realm for Women *may* contain A1. I don't recall anything from
the Realm people that actually specifically states that it's A1 in there. Postings and such from other forum
members express the *opinion* that it's A1 from what I've read here. It's also generally thought that the
percentage of A1 in women's Realm is pretty small, meant to affect the wearer more than anyone else.
oscar
11-17-2005, 07:14 AM
Gents,
I believe that the key
phrase in the patents is "Fragrance Compositions".
Both patents listed on the Realm box:
U.S. Patent #5,272,134 (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G
&l=50&s1=5272134.WKU.&OS=PN/5272134&RS=PN/5272134)
U.S. Patent #5,278,141 (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G
&l=50&s1=5278141.WKU.&OS=PN/5278141&RS=PN/5278141)
.....can be found linked in the
Pheromone Research Forum here (http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11044&goto=nextoldest)
and here (http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11043&goto=nextnewest) for ease of future
reference.
Oscar :)
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