Hi all :) i'm a newbie to this
forum & I hear theres some pretty funny stories about the testing of the old BETA EW :LOL: where can I read these @?
& i'm also wondering if this version is still available or is there just the newer one? i've heard it reeks but
i'm always up for a challenge lol
Mtnjim
10-25-2005, 09:59 AM
You mean something
like:
"Whitehall - on the final dilution of EW in your combat load, see if I\'ve got it straight. EW is diluted
to about 300:1 with variousagents. You then take 1 drop of that 300:1 mix (about .05 ml) and add it to about 3.1 ml
of cologne/pheros, further diluting the ew about 62 times. Does that leave a final dilution of EW at about 19,000:1?
Man, if we have to dilute it that much in cologne/carrier it\'s almost too hot to handle. (Check my math - I\'m
tired and in a hurry). - I."
??
Check out
This! (http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3644&highlight=essence+woman)
oscar
10-25-2005, 10:23 AM
This thread (http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3324&page=1&pp=40) has some good stuff in
it too.
Oscar :)
NaughtieGirl
10-25-2005, 11:08 AM
This thread (http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3324&page=1&pp=40) has some
good stuff in it too.
Oscar :)
This was written by a guy called Irish and it's got
to be one of the funniest posts ever about EW!
Re: Who has ordered the new copulin
concentrate?
\"I WAS SHAKEN, BUT NEVER AFRAID….\"
An exploration of stench - by
Irish.
-------------------------------------------------------------
OK, had to try EW to satisfy my curiosity or
something. The first step for me with any phero is stink management - if I can\'t mask an unpleasant phero smell I
simply won\'t wear it, no matter how effective.
I \'ve been reading the cautionary posts about this stuff,
and believe me I take the warnings of these experts seriously. My plan was to get EW into dilutions I could handle,
then test with colognes to see what concentrations could be covered. Only then would I consider wearing it out on
the town (that is, if I could think of a reason for wearing a phero that should presumably be used by WOMEN).
EW arrived in the mail without incident. All was well inside the package - only the slightest hint of some smell
on the EW vial. I was ready to begin.
PHIL STONE - MADMAN UNBOUND. Heeding those that had gone in before me,
I bought latex gloves and a dedicated glass eyedropper. I set up four glass atomizer bottles in which I planned to
mix four trial dilutions of EW. My diluent was my standard carrier of 80/20 grain alcohol/H2O. I calibrated my
eyedropper, and premeasured the proper amount of carrier into each bottle to make four concentrations of EW: 100:1,
250:1, 500:1 and 1000:1. Set everything up outside near running water with a trash bag (containment vessel) at the
ready. A final check of wind direction, and I knew it was time. I nicked the seal on the EW vial and opened it with
gloved hands.
Oh, for the love of heaven…. You know, there\'s a time in every man\'s life when he discovers
what he\'s made of…but nothing prepared me for the \'smell\' of EW. Doc Stone, I salute you, you magnificent
bastard - you have distilled all that is evil into this one tiny vial. JVK was right - don\'t sniff this stuff in
its pure form. It will traumatize you for life.
I pried out the drop-top from the EW vial so I could use my
eyedropper, and immediately changed gloves and got to work. Flies began to gather where I was working. I wish I were
kidding about that. I\'m just glad I never smelled this stuff as a kid - if I would have thought girls really
smelled like this I would have sworn off women altogether and joined the priesthood.
I worked quickly, putting
the drops of EW into the solution bottles, sealing them at once. I had to double-bag the closed EW vial in two
zip-locks to convince myself I didn\'t still smell it through the plastic. I went through three sets of gloves to
avoid transferring any contaminant to the exterior of my solution bottles.
I was left with four spray bottles
containing my working concentrations of EW. The EW vial was safely bagged and stowed, my hands were free of smell,
and all contaminated articles contained in the trash bag. I felt good. I fired up a Marlboro and considered my
options.
STINK-TEST. I wanted to test each of my four EW concentrations with four different colognes to see if
the rancid stench could be masked effectively. Each EW solution would be sprayed on test paper along with each of my
test colognes, and then subjectively rated by me for stink coverage. Also I would have test papers of the straight
colognes and of straight EW solutions as reference points.
I chose the following colognes to test with EW for
the reasons noted:
> Vetiver by Guerlain: This is a strong masculine scent, with simple strong notes that are
not complex. The scent doesn\'t change much and lasts forever. I figured it was a good candidate to cover
anything.
> Givenchy Pour Homme: Classy scent, strong and lasting - but has a hole that NPA sneaks through…would
EW also break through its cover?
> Cool Water: Fougere that blends with about anything. How would EW blend with
its complex notes?
> Realm for Men: I understand about how EROX uses twisted logic to put the wrong-gender
pheros in their men\'s product - but I originally bought it thinking it would have a scent that masked pheros
well. It does, but I don\'t like the scent much. But in this case it seemed good to try, since Rfm is used to
cover FEMALE-generated pheros, and that was what I was investigating with EW. Man, this gets confusing.
I took
each EW solution and sprayed it about 1:1 with each cologne onto paper. That is, a spray of the solution on paper
was covered with a spray of the cologne while still wet. (I didn\'t even bother to test the 100:1 EW solution with
colognes, since it smelled so bad by itself on a test paper I knew I would never wear it that strong, even with
cologne cover). I sniffed the test papers during drydown, and then again about a half-hour later. I rated each
cologne/solution combo on the following scale:
M - the cologne masks the EW completely, smells like straight
cologne to me
C - the scent of the cologne is changed by the EW solution, but it\'s not unpleasant
U - the
unpleasant rancid odor of EW is detectable through the cologne
RESULTS
EW Sol. -- > *** 1000:1 ***
500:1 ***
250:1
Cologne:
Vetiver----------------M------------M-----------C
Givenchy-------------M------------C-----------U
nCool Water --------- M----------- C ----------U
Realm f. Men--------C ---------- U ----------U+
DISCUSSION.
It\'s no surprise that Vetiver covered as well as it did. Givenchy covered better than I thought it would. The
real shocker was Realm, which actually seemed to accentuate and strengthen the rancid scent of EW, rather than cover
it.
Looking at my results, if I was going to use this stuff I\'d probably use a 500:1 solution (or weaker) as
a spray, which I could then cover with a spray or two of most colognes.
The EW concentrate as delivered from
Stone Labs is too damn potent for use as is. For an \'unscented\' spray product I\'d say something around
500:1, with a recommendation to cover with cologne (use it like TE or similar products). I didn\'t test it as a
direct cologne additive, but maybe something like 100:1 EW solution, with recommendation to add to cologne somewhat
like NPA (anywhere from 7:3 to 5:1 cologne:EW) might work.
I\'ve got about six drops of EW (0.0165 ml/drop)
in play right now, mixed at four concentrations, and I think I have more than a years supply right there - even if I
use it regularly. The question I now have is: is this stuff still active at dilutions weak enough to be covered by
cologne? I now have a good handle on how weak I have to mix it up so the stink can be covered - but I don\'t know
if that\'s strong enough to be effective as a phero.
And I\'m a little leery to test it much, cause I\'m
not sure what effect I\'m going for if I present the phero signature of an ovulating woman. What the hell?! and
who the hell am I trying to attract??! Maybe there\'s some secondary effects on women, kinda like -nol apparently
having effects on both genders. Or maybe I can just use the stuff myself for my own pleasure (I\'ve been known to
huff PFw and Rfm to charge myself up, not trying to affect a woman). I did notice some effects on myself while
testing EW - I was alert enough, could do math fine, but seemed a little buzzed - difficult to explain. This stuff
is active somehow, I just don\'t know what effect I might want to use it for on women, or whether it would work at
the weak concentrations I personally would use to ensure stink-coverage.
Let the experiments continue!
Watcher
10-26-2005, 02:15 AM
yeah it was fun dont think there
are any of the old vials left it was a beta test which is long over and the real EW has hit the mraket
looks like i'll have to make do
without it then eh oh well life goes on :thumbsup: from what i've heard I have a pretty good challenge ahead of me
with the market one anyhow :lol:
Thanks all for the quick responses :D
Mtnjim
10-26-2005, 09:16 AM
looks like i'll have
to make do without it then eh oh well life goes on :thumbsup: ...
Just concider yourself lucky!!:drunk:
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