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DUKE3100
10-16-2005, 02:12 PM
Well over the weekend I
tested a new combination. I will not know an official verdict until I can duplicate it and go out without it....in
the same outfit....but I am fairly confident that it is a winning combination. I put about 1/3 Soe and covered with
2-3 drops Ae and went to a club. I had about 25 girls come up and approach me. A lot of them would use pick-up lines
that were so lame I just couldnt think of what to say. Things like "where have I seen you before" or "Is your name
Bob"....any excuse. Girls were staring me up and down with their boyfriends right there. Ironically I was in a very
very shy mood and It was actually a bit much for me. I guess maybe I was overwhelmed and I think I kinda felt like
this had to be too easy to go smoothly so I just played hard to get all night. I guess I just didnt want anything
that easily or something. I dont know...but it was a success. The only thing is that by the time I got drunk enough
to actually be in the mood to carry on a meaningful conversation with a girl....The nol had probably converted to
none too much. One girl actually came up and grabbed my beads and when I told her that I was going to have to charge
her 30 bucks for touching my beads... she bit bit me kinda hard and would not let go....I told her that would be 60
bucks!
MOBLEYC57
10-16-2005, 08:15 PM
Big Duke, how old are you?
:blink:
The age ranges of your hits? :blink:
Thanks! :box:
tounge
10-17-2005, 12:30 AM
Scented or unscented SOE?
DUKE3100
10-17-2005, 06:41 AM
Big Duke, how
old are you? :blink:
The age ranges of your hits? :blink:
I am in my mid twenties so my hits are
all over the scale. Most common is probably 17-40. I keep focused on 21-35.
I am actually disappointed with that
night because I could not take advantage by getting to know some of these girls, but I was so blown away and since I
get in these shy moods it was a little too much.
TOUNGE- You may know about the combo I have been using with
good effects...well what I did is put about a little under 1/3 of an unscented Soe on and cover with a couple of
drops of Ae. Then I topped it off with my pheromone cologne. Next time I test it I will do it without the cologne on
top to see how it goes. Basically the difference was that a lot of people that I did not know were talking to me and
coming up with excuses....to the point of not even caring what that the excuse made any sense what so ever....to
talk to me. I am not use to girls approaching me that much with pointless openers....I guess the pheromones made
them act on some sort of a subconscious level where they just were drawn to me without caring what they said. Keep
in mind that I was in a club and that a lot of these girls were drunk. I also had a very MTV outfit on. I think that
NPA/SOE is over rated. It smells and is hard to cover and when the SOe converts you have even bigger problems. IF
you are not someone who needs massive amounts of None to attract attention then I advise you to go out and get
yourself some Ae and a gel pack of unscented Soe. It smells great and ladies love it. Even better is the fact that
Hugo Boss will perfectly cover and blend into both unscented Soe (which you have to smell right by the skin to
smell) and Ae. Also keep in mind that this is *NOT* a combo that has been fully tested. I have the ratio about right
I think....but I must test it out in the city and I must test it out in a dressed down fashion in the country. I
must test it with and without the other ingrediant and I must tweak a little with the Ae ratio.
People sometimes say "every woman has
their own preferences' with regard to scent signature. I think there's one profile that females are commonly
attracted to. Based on the fact that a lot of strangers were approaching you, I think it's fair to say that you +
the synthetics = that scent signature.
I'd love to get a rough idea of what that scent signature is, so we
know what's a good ratio for the big three (none, nol, rone).
Keep in mind, I am sure your looks and dress
only reinforced the attraction and helped to compel the approaches.
DUKE3100
10-17-2005, 07:40 AM
I'd love to get a
rough idea of what that scent signature is, so we know what's a good ratio for the big three (none, nol, rone).
Keep in mind, I am sure your looks and dress only reinforced the attraction and helped to compel the
approaches.
Trust me....I am going to be testing this combo massively over the next month. Right now its
hard to give you anything better than this......
Ae is 3 parts none 2 parts nol and 1 rone and Soe is 4 parts
nol and 1 part rone. 1/3 a pack of Soe is about 1.5 drops roughly....so if we use this as a foundation here is what
i did (This does not include my secret ingrediant that I topped it off with...but I am not sure if that is a factor
yet till I test without it in the same place).
6 parts none
10 parts nol
3.5 rone
This is very close to
the Ae formula...which seems to work very well for me....but with amplified nol and a little more rone.
I would
like to think that things are more straightforward though. I was just thinking nol breaks down barriers....so put
more in conjunction with the none....which weas getting me attention but not nearly as many approaches by women.
The final factor is Nol converting to None....over the course of the night the approaches continued heavily....I
applied around 10:30 but noticed that as time went on things got more and more like when I have mostly none on and
not enough nol. Still got the approaches all night and got bitten after the club got out....but I know the none
effect now and did feel it rising a bit "overall"
As the girls got drunker the hits
rose :)
Big M
10-17-2005, 11:01 AM
BJF , you have a point i don't
think clubs/ bars are the best place to test pheromones because of the alcohol factor . You cannot gauge effects
accurately. I've seen shy quite girls dance on a bar because of alcohol effects , So you really can't tell if it
is mones , drugs, or alcohol, causing them to flirt with you.
jollysnowdevil
10-17-2005, 11:55 AM
Then I
topped it off with my pheromone cologne. .
is this just a cologne cover or is it
actually a cologne that has pheromones mixed in it. please clarify as if this cologne also had mones than it
changes the info about your ae/soe mix a bit. was this something like tag or axe body spray ? something like realm
maybe?
i agree clubs are in a totally different class as far as pheromone use is concerned. im
not saying it wasnt the mones but alcohol does factor in bigtime. not to mention a lot of people go to clubs looking
for action. the crowd factors in too as if you have a bunch of nerdy boring guys who aren't meeting the standards
of the women there it is rather easy to attract a ton of attention if you are worth a second look.
even
without mones crazy things like those you mentioned have happened. i got a hand job in a club onetime without
wearing mones. i was sitting on a couch when this strange chick sits down next to me and starts helping herself.
anyway i usually keep my club ratios seperate from the others as ive found many effective club mixes are useless to
me elsewhere.
i do agree with the duke that npa/soe is overrated a bit then again i havent tried famous 7:3
mix yet
WxCloud9xW
10-17-2005, 06:36 PM
Sounds like I might be better
off to get SOE unscented to add to my combo of AE+APC instead of getting NPA. I remember the scented SOE clashed
really bad with most colognes, because its not a light smell.
kuraykillua
10-17-2005, 06:57 PM
I noticed someone commented
on your story here
http://pheroblog.blogspot.com/
That's quite interesting... when you say 1/3 SOE
that's gel packs right?
Keep us updated... ^_^
-k
WxCloud9xW
10-17-2005, 06:59 PM
Watcher seems to think AA314
might be better to add to AE/m than SOE. I'm so confused. I don't want to spend a bunch of money..I know for
sure AE+APC works for me. I just dont know
Big M
10-17-2005, 07:05 PM
:confused: :frustrate I'm new to
this pheromone experimentation , i've already spent a bundle on this stuff . Now i'm starting to mix combos with
cologne , ruined a new bottle of RealM and wasted NPA down the sink it went, Made up a roll on bottle of a bunch of
mones gave me a bad head ache, burned my eyes , down the sink that mix went. So it does get expensive after
awhile.
belgareth
10-17-2005, 07:53 PM
So, don't mix. Apply things
seperately on your skin. I've done it that way for a long time and it works just fine. Haven't ever dumped any
mones down the sink either, although I did dump a bunch in my desk once. But that's another story. :)
DUKE3100
10-18-2005, 06:35 AM
Yea....I cant see why anyone
would like NPA unless they need a ton of none for reactions...it just smells so bad and I have had others notice
that too. As for the issue of clubs....this is a club I have been in many times with no mones and different mones.
Reactions have varied depending on several factors. I can assure you of a difference. I have never had random girls
approaching me with lame lines so frequently over the course of an 2 hours. However I did test it out a couple more
places. I tested it in the grocery store and I got head turns and heavy eye contact and smiles....it was the best
grocery store trip I have ever had....I hope to some day get the balls to approach in a grocery store. I also met
with a girl who I only had chated with over the net. She trembled with excitement and she opened up and said I
seemed real cool and great personality and went on and on. I told her I bet she says that to all the guys and had
her give me the rock! So I would advice people in their teens and twenties...perhaps even 30's to try a gel 7 pack
of unscented Soe with Ae or something like it. I do admit that my testing methods could use more structure and I do
plan on tweaking things and really getting this combo down because it is incredible for me....doesnt mean it will be
right for you....but I feel it smells much better than NPA/SOe and thus is going to be more effective....no one
wants to be around someone who smells like a**. I will keep the updates coming and answer questions on this. Next I
plan on testing this in a different settings and then next week will test it without the pheromone cologne
booster...which is a pheromone spray cologne that smells like Aqua de gero and has that DHL whatever
di-hydosomethingrone. I believe what this does is spike the effects of the mones and does nothing by itself but
again....more testing needed.
MOBLEYC57
10-18-2005, 06:59 AM
well what I did
is put about a little under 1/3 of an unscented Soe on and cover with a couple of drops of Ae. Then I
topped it off with my pheromone cologne. Next time I test it I will do it without the cologne on top to
see how it goes.
So it wasn't just the AE:SOE combo! Hmmmmm :think:
T'would be nice if people
would share all of the info .... Duke! Topped it off with what pheromone cologne? :POKE:
WxCloud9xW
10-18-2005, 07:32 AM
Duke have you tried adding some
Alpha A314 to your AE/m? Watcher seems to love this mix for some reason. I know SOE has 1 part ARone, so you'd
get that with AA314.
belgareth
10-18-2005, 07:50 AM
Yea....I cant
see why anyone would like NPA unless they need a ton of none for reactions...it just smells so bad and I have had
others notice that too.
An awful lot of very experienced pheromone users use NPA/TE with good results
and NO complaints about stink. After all, it is one of the most popular pheromone products on the market today. It
seems likely there is something more to it than just the product. Maybe there is something about your personal
chemistry that causes it too stink or maybe you have an extremely high sensitivity to one of the products in it.
DUKE3100
10-18-2005, 08:10 AM
An awful lot
of very experienced pheromone users use NPA/TE with good results and NO complaints about stink. After all, it is one
of the most popular pheromone products on the market today. It seems likely there is something more to it than just
the product. Maybe there is something about your personal chemistry that causes it too stink or maybe you have an
extremely high sensitivity to one of the products in it.
Hey man....I dont see how anyone can cover it.
I have tried everything. I agree it gets results....but for me it does more harm then good cause i smell. I get some
hits but I also get people asking what the smell is and telling me I smell like ass. I am not the first person to
bring it up....and I have ruined a lot of colognes. The experienced users have given advice....none of it works for
me. I am suggesting an alternative. If you are in you upper 30's or beyond and you need to attract the same....and
you need a lot of none...then its probably great. My opinion. End of story. If it can be covered somehow by
something....then it would kick some butt!
Le Sillage
10-18-2005, 08:18 AM
I never knew that NPA/TE
didn't smell to some people?
Our formulator avidly collects everything, had for many years before starting up,
since he's a true enthusiast. He has used everything around me at one point or another, and TE sure used to stink
to me!
He actually liked it because he sometimes got good effects, but I just hated it for the odor. I don't
think he could smell what I could. Women are different than men, though. Estrogens make us smell better, or smell
"different".
Smells more like urine to me, than "ass". Like someone who doesn't "shake well" wore their
underwear way too long.
belgareth
10-18-2005, 08:19 AM
Since a lot of young people
have and do use it I think there is something more going on in your case. You are the only one on this forum that
reports it smells like ass. Also, Why do you mix it? You aree inexperienced and mixing any quantity does not make
sense. That's just a waste of money.
DUKE3100
10-18-2005, 08:29 AM
Since a lot of
young people have and do use it I think there is something more going on in your case. You are the only one on this
forum that reports it smells like ass. Also, Why do you mix it? You aree inexperienced and mixing any quantity does
not make sense. That's just a waste of money.
It says its best when mixed with a cologne and I got
specific suggestions on how to do it effectively. I did it in a seperate atomizer so it was experimental and not
that big a deal
Has anyone ever done a wrist test
with a female and NPA?
I once had a girlfriend smell The Edge on my wrist and she hated it.
I know some of you
are going to say well DCW u should of mixed it, but I'm curios to know if anyone ever got a compliment using it
pure (yes I'm lazy to do a search).
The only one that comes to mind is the "dick musk" post.
DCW
jollysnowdevil
10-18-2005, 09:45 AM
I never
knew that NPA/TE didn't smell to some people?
.
npa has no smell to me. npa smells
faintly like very cheap vodka. in fact all the mone products i've tried have no smell. i can smell the carrier
added scents but at most they have a very very very light must scent to them.
i kinda wish i could
smell such "stinks" that are commonly reported. this way i could tell if i covered suitably. oh well
DUKE3100
10-18-2005, 10:11 AM
My hit report
thread is turning into an NPA bashing session....lets just leave it at this....If you are overly conscious of making
sure you do not smell bad...and you dont want to spend hundreds of dollars trying to find a cover that can actually
cover....and you are not someone who needs tons of none to get peoples attention....than do yourself a favor. Go out
and get yourself a 10 dollar pack of Soe unscented and Ae (which has the highest premix of none plus 2 other
pheromones) and give it a shot. She'll thank you for it. I will be testing this killer out tomorrow one more time
just to solidify before I start the tweaks.
WxCloud9xW
10-18-2005, 12:45 PM
TE=cat piss..I know there are a
lot of good hits with NPA and TE in clubs and parties, but jesus why is it only these LaCroy products that smell
like this. The secret ingredient must be esscence of kitty litter box. I'd love to use it, but I've gotten more
than one woman to smell TE and NPA covered and they don't like it at all and one smelled cat piss. NPA/TE mixes are
best suited for the club.
Back to the thread Duke have you tried adding AA314 to AE yet? I am thinking about
getting AA314 or possible unscented SOE to add to my AE/m+APC mix that already works well.
DUKE3100
10-18-2005, 02:10 PM
Duke have
you tried adding AA314 to AE yet? I am thinking about getting AA314 or possible unscented SOE to add to my AE/m+APC
mix that already works well.
I have not tried it to this point. I am waiting for more feedback and I
want to finish fully testing this and then testing A1 and also testing Chikara more extensively before I even go
there....but I would imagine it to be effective because it is a rone product. I would think the effect would be
different though. What you accomplish when you mix Soe and Ae (if your body does not need tons of none) is a sexual
alpha vibe with approachability and broken down barriers and fun. This is a powerful combination. What I would
imagine you would get with Ae and Alpha is a James Bond type of vibe....Your alpha and strong but responsible and
trustworthy....a gentleman who is sexy and erotic and romantic and mysterious.
Le Sillage
10-18-2005, 02:25 PM
I have not
tried it to this point. I am waiting for more feedback and I want to finish fully testing this and then testing A1
and also testing Chikara more extensively before I even go there....but I would imagine it to be effective because
it is a rone product. I would think the effect would be different though. What you accomplish when you mix Soe and
Ae (if your body does not need tons of none) is a sexual alpha vibe with approachability and broken down barriers
and fun. This is a powerful combination. What I would imagine you would get with Ae and Alpha is a James Bond type
of vibe....Your alpha and strong but responsible and trustworthy....a gentleman who is sexy and erotic and romantic
and mysterious.
We might change it to the Richard Branson effect, who's actually a real life James
Bond. Mischievous devil, too! He's been known to set up his own companies to make competitors look stupid in
comparison. Not very nice, but the examples I know of are funny. It's the funny side of mean.
I'll post a
picture of you know what with you know who soon!
WxCloud9xW
10-18-2005, 03:05 PM
I think I may get AA314 to add a
drop or two to my AE/m+APC mix.
Le Sillage
10-18-2005, 03:42 PM
I think I
may get AA314 to add a drop or two to my AE/m+APC mix.
Not to throw a wrench in the gears, but...
Bad boys smell more like The Edge than any of that stuff (another recent thread reminded me quite well of this!).
That nice "I don't change my underwear" very often odor. I know... Decisions, decisions.
I always want to see
what people get with A314 + The Edge, but I don't see that used much. Puzzles me.
Anybody use that?
WxCloud9xW
10-18-2005, 04:03 PM
I would get the edge or NPA, but
it doesnt smell great to other women from my experiences with it. AE has .20 anone, which is pretty high. If I
didn't care about money I would get A1 chemset, NPA, and AA314.
Le Sillage what is the recommended dosage for
AA314 on its own?
Where's our picture? You didn't
sign anything, did you!?:)
Few notes:
The secret ingredient of TE/NPA is urinous. It does smell bad,
but... it tends to get worse on your skin over time. That said, as many have already said, this is a case of
personal chemistry making a situation worse. If a cologne (which is designed to smell good) can become not so sign
on a person's skin due to their chemistry, you better believe something that is naturally urinious to begin with
can become more urinous.
If a person's chemistry doesn't alter NPA/TE much, I believe it can be covered,
and thus some people don't have a problem with it. I also believe there are instances where it does not smell so
nice to people, but those people are not saying anything.
Generally, if someone smells bad, nobody says
anything. How many times have you smelled stink and said something?
I think those more likely to say
something are younger people, perhaps high school or college kids.
In any case, there are a lot of issues
going on here, and if you can use the product, great. Everyone's experiences are valid.
NPA/TE is a great
product, good for calling attention to yourself and has a primal punch to it. It's got as many downsides as
upsides. You've got to learn how to work with it. Ultimately, you may have to miss out on some of the benefits if
you find to many negatives. It's great that Duke found such a simple combo in AE and SOE that works great for him.
Now the next challenge is seeing how repeatable it is for him. The grocery store was a good sign.
MOBLEYC57
10-18-2005, 08:55 PM
I will be
testing this killer out tomorrow one more time just to solidify before I start the tweaks.
With or
without the -mone cologne ... which is? :think:
Le Sillage
10-18-2005, 10:14 PM
I would get
the edge or NPA, but it doesnt smell great to other women from my experiences with it. AE has .20 anone, which is
pretty high. If I didn't care about money I would get A1 chemset, NPA, and AA314.
Le Sillage what is the
recommended dosage for AA314 on its own?
A314 is usually 2-5 drops. 2 drops under 30, then add a drop
for every decade or decade in a half, till you reach max. Rule of thumb only, because natural pheromonal output will
vary with each individual. People own's output varies, and some people almost have something like pheromonal
disorder.
It is hard to "OD" with A314. We got reports back early on with people using far too much without bad
results. None recently, though, so I'm not sure how intentional ODing works with the updated formula.
WxCloud9xW
10-18-2005, 10:39 PM
I'm 22 so I guess I'll try 1
or 2 drops AA314 with 2-3 drops AE+2 dabs APC
This seems to have drifted away from
the original "AE with SOE" title a bit... But I had to say based on Le Sillage's dosage suggestion above in regards
to age I think I had better order a 55 gallon drum of a314 and go fill my bathtub...
I've only been using about
2 drops either alone or in combo with other products. But do I really need to up the dosage? Maybe it's doing it's
job just fine. After all, as far as I can tell, with a314, the effects are subtle and more long term. And if there
are no OD effects, I won't know if I have too much. I suppose I could try upping to 4 drops and see what happens...
I suppose I should try AE and SOE combo too one of these days...
DUKE3100
10-19-2005, 01:35 PM
Work test proved success with
the combo again. I will be testing formula a couple more times. Once in a nightlife city setting, once more at work,
and then once in the same place as last time...dressed down as it is easy to stick out dressed up like I was last
time.
chicago
10-19-2005, 02:41 PM
i bought alot of mones and
tested them all. nothing came close to AE/M, the results were amazing, (3-5 drops). maybe it works best with my body
chemistry, hell i don't know.
but AE/M in my opinion produces the best results all by it self. one time i met two
girls at the local cafe. we were drinking and talking and joking for about 2 hours. they said lets go rent a movie
from blockbusters and watch it at my house. while watching the movie we were all drinking alchol more and getting
buzzed. i started to make out with one and then the other one joined us. that was my best 3 somes i ever had.
i
had on 5 drops of AE/M only.
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MOBLEYC57
10-19-2005, 02:41 PM
Work
test proved success with the combo again. I will be testing formula a couple more times. Once in a
nightlife city setting, once more at work, and then once in the same place as last time...dressed down as it is easy
to stick out dressed up like I was last time.
With or without your -mone cologne? :think:
DUKE3100
10-19-2005, 03:38 PM
Boy Mobley....your all about
that "other" ingrediant arn't you! I am going to test all those *with* the secret topper and then I am going to
start testing without it. Before I start tweaking I need to really make sure that the added Soe is going to continue
to make people more "forward" about their attraction. I will continue to update this thread as to what I find. I
will probably be getting some A1 soon so I can start testing the thing with that too. I will keep the updates
coming!
Le Sillage
10-19-2005, 03:45 PM
This seems to have
drifted away from the original "AE with SOE" title a bit... But I had to say based on Le Sillage's dosage
suggestion above in regards to age I think I had better order a 55 gallon drum of a314 and go fill my bathtub...
I've only been using about 2 drops either alone or in combo with other products. But do I really need to up the
dosage? Maybe it's doing it's job just fine. After all, as far as I can tell, with a314, the effects are subtle
and more long term. And if there are no OD effects, I won't know if I have too much. I suppose I could try upping
to 4 drops and see what happens...
I suppose I should try AE and SOE combo too one of these days...
Well, the main things A314 seems to communicate are highly idealized archetypical male attributes and... high
status. Where you are on the pegboard of life and a little about how you got there.
Results can be perceived
subtle or dramatic based on who you are (if the A314 corrects deficits or merely enhances what you already have),
what you do, and whether you're using it for romance or work.
As you might imagine, it's been the least
subtle to salespeople, who view it more as a credibility or trust building tool. Especially for something like car
salespeople, that have credibility issues from the getgo. People go in deadset against them, due to experiences
they've had in the past. It's like magic in a bottle to some of those users.
In those cases, A314 shouts out
somethng like "Follow me. I'm the trustable older guy that's seen it all, and done it all. I'm not going to
mislead you, honey, I don't have to. I'm going to eat and be fine with or without you."
Romantically, it gives
off more of a well refined daddy vibe than anything else. Sexy, but not sexual. Tends to attract healthy, normal
women. "Keepers"
Most women, unless abused, seem to try to replace their fathers (the provider) in their life.
A314 does well here (think Jessica Alba, who's always looking for a strong daddy).
The abused seek to
unconsciously replace the abuser in their life ("what traumatizes as a child, attracts as an adult"). A314 used
alone almost repels in extreme cases of this ("this guy is not for me!" "where's my abuser? ... nnnnext!!"). Lots
of -none and blowing hot and cold are what you need here. Be polar, not consistent. Keep them on their toes, don't
let them get comfortable. You've a lover or a fling, not a therapist.
Some are mixed, and don't know what they
want - so A314 gives mixed results, and will work better with some of the uncertainty factor (-none). I think how
the world is today is why a lot of people are seeing good results combining A314 with Primal.
I only mentioned
using increased doses as you age, because hormonal (and therefore pheromonal) output falls as you get older. If you
want a youthful pheromonal level, you use more.
Heck, if you want a REALLY youthful vibe, the actual vibe of
youth, use more -none. Really young, sweaty men reek of -none (and sometimes unwashed underwear, ala The Edge)
naturally (but they don't have the charisma of older men).
Work test proved
success with the combo again. I will be testing formula a couple more times. Once in a nightlife city setting, once
more at work, and then once in the same place as last time...dressed down as it is easy to stick out dressed up like
I was last time.
Cool....
i bought alot of mones and tested them all.
nothing came close to AE/M, the results were amazing, (3-5 drops). maybe it works best with my body chemistry, hell
i don't know.
but AE/M in my opinion produces the best results all by it self. one time i met two girls at the
local cafe. we were drinking and talking and joking for about 2 hours. they said lets go rent a movie from
blockbusters and watch it at my house. while watching the movie we were all drinking alchol more and getting buzzed.
i started to make out with one and then the other one joined us. that was my best 3 somes i ever had.
i had
on 5 drops of AE/M only.
It's funny because I've always had trouble getting AE to work for me.
I've gotten it to do so some things in combos, but not easily or consistently.
MOBLEYC57
10-19-2005, 09:01 PM
Boy
Mobley....your all about that "other" ingrediant arn't you! I am going to test all those *with* the secret topper
and then I am going to start testing without it. Before I start tweaking I need to really make sure that the added
Soe is going to continue to make people more "forward" about their attraction. I will continue to update this thread
as to what I find. I will probably be getting some A1 soon so I can start testing the thing with that too. I will
keep the updates coming!
Sorry. But ... to fix a cake you need the mix, eggs, and I won't tell you the
secret that it needs water too. See what I mean? :trout:
Since you're not going to share it, it would be
teasing to post if you're not going to tell all. But, if you just test AE:SOE the post would be more appreciated, I
THINK.
I remember a while back someone bragged about their mix ... said they mixed NPA with another ingredient
from Love Scent that guaranteed hits, but never gave out the other ingredient. TEASE!
Thanks for your AE:SOE
findings, Dukey. :wave:
DUKE3100
10-20-2005, 07:12 AM
Mobley-
I am not
withholding the information to tease....I am withholding it because:
1) It is not offered at lovescent
2) I
dont even know if it has anything to do with my success yet.
So I will have a definate answer on that....but it
will take some time...for now...I can just say that I have been using the Ae combo with the other ingrediant...to
great success....even Ae alone has got me success...and adding Soe just blew it out of the water...so Ae with Soe is
much better than Ae alone....for me...and perhaps others should try it out too!
Le Sillage
10-20-2005, 07:32 AM
Duke, back to your original
post. What are the vital stats here?
How old are you, how tall are you?
What's the name of this club, where is
it?
What kind of crowd is it?
The more specifics, the better.
DUKE3100
10-20-2005, 07:48 AM
Duke, back to
your original post. What are the vital stats here?
How old are you, how tall are you?
What's the name of this
club, where is it?
What kind of crowd is it?
The more specifics, the better.
I am in my mid
twenties and this particular club is in a small town where my city dress style tends to stick out more and I seem
more Godly. This can be an advantage but I also find it to be an overly intimidating disadvantage too when combined
with my mysterious and alpha personality. However since I was approached many many times by woman who didnt even
know or care what they said but only that they said something....I am thinking the Soe did more than I would expect
it to. I am 5'10 with a cut medium frame. Dark hair and dark eyes with a healthy tan. Depending on my mood and
location I jump around from a 6 to a 8 in that range. My biggest weakness is my tendancy to get into quite and shy
inward moods and not take advantage of oppurtunities because of it. The crowd is a fun crowd...thats the best way to
really put it I guess. Mostly in their 20's. My personality is 50% Mysterious/Sexual 25% playful/tease
and 25%
deep/romantic/curious type. Sometimes when I am in my own world I can come off as stuck up or shy or
indifferent....this is my biggest problem. Also once a girl gets to know me they seem to want serious relationships
with me...this is a problem if I just want to enjoy things and have fun. When I am on....things go very well for
me.
MrPlayboy
10-22-2005, 01:35 PM
Mobley-
I
am not withholding the information to tease....I am withholding it because:
1) It is not offered at lovescent
2) I dont even know if it has anything to do with my success yet.
So I will have a definate answer on
that....but it will take some time...for now...I can just say that I have been using the Ae combo with the other
ingrediant...to great success....even Ae alone has got me success...and adding Soe just blew it out of the
water...so Ae with Soe is much better than Ae alone....for me...and perhaps others should try it out too!
It's pretty darn obvious, what he's talking about, he's talking about PHERLURE!
Pherlure was my
introduction to mones, I label it a failure. I found that every time I wore pherlure at work, SOME chick would slap
me on my head, literally slap me on my head. I don't take that kind of crap from anyone, but since I knew it was
the pherlure that caused it, I let it slide.
But anyways his "secret ingredient" is Pherlure.
A lot of people who use pherolure
with other pheromone products tend to have positive results. Although the people without any results just generally
don't post on the boards about that.
But I think it does change, improve mixes sometimes.
MOBLEYC57
10-23-2005, 05:58 PM
It's pretty
darn obvious, what he's talking about, he's talking about PHERLURE!
How did you get to that, Signor
Playboy? :blink:
At first I thought he was correct by not talking about a mone product that wasn't sold at
L-S, but lots of mones that aren't sold here are discussed. It's the links that gets one in hot water, not the
names. :trout:
Anywho ...
belgareth
10-23-2005, 07:58 PM
That's true. We don't mind if
you bring up other products but don't want links to competing sites.
MrPlayboy
10-26-2005, 02:14 PM
Did you try your soe & ae mix without the pherlure?
As I stated before, each time I
wore pherlure I would always have some chick at work (different chicks) slap me on the head..(there was nothing
sexual at all about their slaps...so I cursed pherlure and gave it away).
After reading your post about how the
chick bit you and grabbed you where it hurts, I'm thinking that pherlure may actually be good in causing women to
initiate action towards the wearer, but it probably needs to be worn with enough SOE so that instead of being hit,
you can be felt and caressed.
And if a chick feels on you and caresses you, then you have the green light to do
the same to her, and this will lead you straight to the endzone...no none involved.
MOBLEYC57
10-26-2005, 03:53 PM
Did you try
your soe & ae mix without the pherlure?
As I stated before, each time I wore pherlure I would always have some
chick at work (different chicks) slap me on the head..(there was nothing sexual at all about their slaps...so I
cursed pherlure and gave it away).
After reading your post about how the chick bit you and grabbed you where it
hurts, I'm thinking that pherlure may actually be good in causing women to initiate action towards the wearer, but
it probably needs to be worn with enough SOE so that instead of being hit, you can be felt and caressed.
And if
a chick feels on you and caresses you, then you have the green light to do the same to her, and this will lead you
straight to the endzone...no none involved.
How ... do ... you ... know ... that ... it's ... Pherlure
... Sir DUKE ... is ... using, Signor PlayBoy? :think:
jollysnowdevil
10-26-2005, 05:25 PM
Boy
Mobley....your all about that "other" ingrediant arn't you! I am going to test all those *with* the secret topper
and then I am going to start testing without it. Before I start tweaking I need to really make sure that the added
Soe is going to continue to make people more "forward" about their attraction. I will continue to update this thread
as to what I find. I will probably be getting some A1 soon so I can start testing the thing with that too. I will
keep the updates coming!
mobley is not the only one wondering what that secret ingredient you use
is. the reason being is nobody here can really make any use of your post without that knowledge of your other
ingredient. that other ingredient is a big factor in your post. it might contirbute a lot to your mixes success it
may do nothing at all. without us knowing what it is nobody else here can try and duplicate your results. in a sense
nobody can take your report seriously.
MOBLEYC57
10-27-2005, 07:58 AM
mobley is
not the only one wondering what that secret ingredient you use is. the reason being is nobody here can really make
any use of your post without that knowledge of your other ingredient. that other ingredient is a big factor in your
post. it might contirbute a lot to your mixes success it may do nothing at all. without us knowing what it is nobody
else here can try and duplicate your results. in a sense nobody can take your report seriously.
I don't
think Duke was keeping the spray as a SECRET, but respecting Bruce/L-Scent not knowing that it's okay to
talk about products not sold here, but not to post the links. :think:
My thought is, "if you're going to post
good hits knowing others may want to give the mix/mones a shot, why not include the entire recipe?"
:thumbsup:
WxCloud9xW
10-27-2005, 09:54 AM
who knows if something ends up
working well, Bruce might be willing to get the product in.
MrPlayboy
10-27-2005, 10:58 AM
I don't
think Duke was keeping the spray as a SECRET, but respecting Bruce/L-Scent not knowing that it's okay to
talk about products not sold here, but not to post the links. :think:
My thought is, "if you're going to post
good hits knowing others may want to give the mix/mones a shot, why not include the entire recipe?"
:thumbsup:
He did give the entire recipe. He gave a description of the "secret mone" and that
description fits pherlure to the T.
I 100% guarantee it's Pherlure.
DUKE3100
10-27-2005, 02:46 PM
I have tested the combo yet
again in the same place dressed down to fit in more. As soon as I entered I had a girl all over me...though I knew
her. I danced with several girls throughout that night and had a lot of fun...not as many girls approached me
though....but I was less on the Soe by a little and was in a smoke filled place first for hours. As far as the
continued buzz on the "secret" ingrediant....The purpose of this post was to show that after extensive testing that
combining Soe with Ae is more effective than Ae alone as far as getting women to approach and act on their
attraction towards you. They are more forward when Soe is in the equation. The combo I used before was the exact
same...without Soe....now that I have added Soe it is more effective. the secret ingrediant was not the x-factor or
the difference. If anything....the secret ingrediant acts as a steroid to the combo. It was the SOE that made a
sizeable difference....that was the point of this post. After one more city test of this combination I will begin
testing this combo WITHOUT the secrete ingrediant and I will update everyone on that. Patience is a virtue. I am not
interested in misinforming anyone on my findings. For some this thread may be incomplete and not useful right
now...but by the time I am done the testing it will be very useful and precise....and yes...the secret ingrediant
will be "officially" (hint) unveiled if it has any relevance to the equation. Until then Cheers!!:cheers:
MrPlayboy
10-27-2005, 06:46 PM
Duke said it "is a pheromone
spray cologne that smells like Aqua de gero and has that DHL whatever di-hydosomethingrone"
That's exactly what
pherlure is, and dihydroandrosterone is the mone in pherlure.
Anyways...I already sent out a money order for
another pherlure. My BEST non-npa mix is SOE + 1 spray chikara. When my pherlure gets here I'm going to add a spray
of that to the mix.
Keep it PIMPIN'
Cloud9
10-27-2005, 07:31 PM
I'm just wondering if AA314 might
get the same results if not better than Pherlure.
CptKipling
10-28-2005, 04:03 PM
Not to throw
a wrench in the gears, but...
Bad boys smell more like The Edge than any of that stuff (another recent thread
reminded me quite well of this!). That nice "I don't change my underwear" very often odor. I know... Decisions,
decisions.
I always want to see what people get with A314 + The Edge, but I don't see that used much. Puzzles
me.
Anybody use that?
Yeah I use it, but I haven't really figured it out yet. I haven't had the
chance to use it in a favourable environment, but I don't think it's got enough power to be used in club type
situations unless there is only a little AA314 in there. My guess is that its going to be more suited to quieter
situations with lots of people, say in a pub or with a group of people eating/hanging out.
DUKE3100
10-29-2005, 07:43 AM
Latest test was in the same
setting but without the cover pheromone spray. It was the weakest night in recent memory....but it wasnt all that
busy. I will test this a couple more times but as of right now it seems the cover may be part of this. Tonight is
prime time. I have not decided whether I will test with or without the cover. Right now I am leaning towards another
test without the cover.
MOBLEYC57
10-29-2005, 08:24 AM
Latest test was
in the same setting but without the cover pheromone spray. It was the weakest night in recent memory....but it wasnt
all that busy. I will test this a couple more times but as of right now it seems the cover may be part of this.
Tonight is prime time. I have not decided whether I will test with or without the cover. Right now I am leaning
towards another test without the cover.
Dukey3100 ...
1. The more women there are on the spot, the
more chances of getting noticed by women with a mone radar ... if there is such a thing. :think:
2. You said
you put on SOE gel, and cover it with 2-3 drops of AE. Is that 2-3 drops total, or is that 2-3 drops per SOE
spot cover? Where and how do you apply, and is it always on the same spots?
:blink:
3. When you did use your spray, how many sprays did you use, and did you spray over your
SOE:AE application spots?
4. Testing is always fun when you're getting results. Good luck and stay the
course! :thumbsup:
Thanx!:run:
DUKE3100
10-29-2005, 09:05 AM
I put on Soe on the neck and
wrists and then put 2 drops Ae on the neck to cover followed by 2 sprays of cologne pheromone spray. 1 on neck and 1
on chest over clothes. THe second spray is aimed at chest but tilted upward so as to get the neck a little bit too.
When I dont wear the cover pheromone spray (like last night) I cover with Hugo Boss. I do not cover the bit of Soe
that I have on the neck. Last night was laid back. Girls eyed me and danced near me but were not aggresive like in
past tests. The place was low on single girls though. A couple girls really looked me over but I am used to more as
of late. Tonight I will favor testing over results and take a chance without the cover again to truely see if the
cover is a difference. After last night it appears as though it makes a difference in bringing out overt or
aggressive behavior in females.
K-Flex
10-31-2005, 10:24 AM
After last night
it appears as though it makes a difference in bringing out overt or aggressive behavior in females.
Yeah
that's what playboy was saying about how he got slapped on the head everytime he wore it to work.
MOBLEYC57
11-03-2005, 05:25 PM
Any updates, Signor Duke?
:blink:
DUKE3100
11-04-2005, 07:31 AM
I am
doing a field test with grocery stores where I will observe the mood of cashiers and test using the same consistant
behavior with the combo with and without the cologne cover. I also am planning 2 club tests and a sports bar test
along with some roomate testing. This will all be completed by next weekend in which case I will have a much better
idea of the effect of my cologne cover and what it means to my combo. I think things will be very clear by then. Now
my question to you Mobley....what gives you more for your money Wagg or A1?? Keep in mind I will also have Chikara
and Ae and Npa
ohmmmm
11-04-2005, 08:03 AM
Regarding A1 and Wagg, I use
these for different situations. When I'm going to a function where I need to get along with everyone I'll wear
WAGG and when I want to attract female interest I will combine A1 with SOE and a none product...but I don't use a
lot of none...just a drop or two on the neck, three drops of A1 and as much SOE as I want..small strip on top of
hands and neck ususally... With this combo, I do get a lot of attraction, hugging and interest from women... All I
have to supply is a strong character....
MOBLEYC57
11-05-2005, 07:19 AM
Regarding A1 and
Wagg, I use these for different situations. When I'm going to a function where I need to get along with
everyone I'll wear WAGG and when I want to attract female interest I will combine A1
Exact-cally fer true, Signor Duke! :thumbsup:
In my own words ...
WAGG = "You have no choice but to
communicate with me, 'cause you like me." (FRIENDLINESS)
A-1 = "I'm so comfortable around you, there is no
such thing as personal space. What it bother's you cause I boobed you?" (COMFORT/CLOSENSS/ATTRACTION)
They're
both worth your bucks, Signor Duke. Kinda like a nice pair of khakies ... they're good and look good for everything
but clubbing! Meaning ... they both have their places, depending on what you're trying to accomplish. :wave:
Did I confuse you enough? :rasp:
DUKE3100
11-05-2005, 08:29 AM
Exact-cally
fer true, Signor Duke! :thumbsup:
In my own words ...
WAGG = "You have no choice but to communicate with
me, 'cause you like me." (FRIENDLINESS)
A-1 = "I'm so comfortable around you, there is no such thing as
personal space. What it bother's you cause I boobed you?" (COMFORT/CLOSENSS/ATTRACTION)
They're both worth
your bucks, Signor Duke. Kinda like a nice pair of khakies ... they're good and look good for everything but
clubbing! Meaning ... they both have their places, depending on what you're trying to accomplish. :wave:
Did I
confuse you enough? :rasp:
I understand what your saying about how these are both specialized mones. I
do have a question though.... are you saying you dont wear khakies to a club....or are you saying A1 or Wagg wont do
well in a club...or both? (I always wear jeans to a club Khakis are out right now clubwise)
Anyways...I made my
decision to go with A-1 and to get some packs of Chikara and Perception to test. This should keep me busy for the
winter. I feel like Chikara has potential as a filler for Wagg and for A314 and it is cheaper. Nothing seems to be
like A1 so it seems rarer and more what I am looking for. Chikara seems to take on some subtle qualities that Wagg
and A314 seem to do. I am sure these are more specialized but Chikara seems to entail them all in a more subtle
manner with the only problem being the subtle part. I think this is the best way to go for a bang for the buck.
After testing my current combo and figuring that out I can start some new tests with these. After I am done with all
this....it will finally be time to try the mighty Wagg.
koolking1
11-05-2005, 10:04 AM
I had long ago stopped
wearing any SOE as I felt with my increasing age (54 now) that I needed a strong "none" presence to get attention.
But, things were going sorta hum drum on the street. In the bedroom, using just ae/m things were going extremely
well. So I decided to try something new for me and it's worked out to be 4 drops AE/M, 2 drops A1, 1/3 package of
SOE gel scented. I've done this twice now and the results have been extremely positive. Before I detail the hit
reports I need to explain what is now my version of a "drop". What I now do is shake my bottle of AE/m and then
unscrew the top but I don't draw the liquid up into the tube but use what's on the outer surface of the tube by
taking it off with my fingers - I consider this to be 2 drops. Same with the A1 but since it's less surface area I
consider that to be one drop (a dip-stick with A1 instead of the eye dropper like thing that comes with AE/M). In
the first hit report below I applied this combo to each arm of the sweater I was wearing around the inside elbow
area.
Hit report #1: Sue and I were in Wash DC last week and she had a company dinner/event to attend on
Friday night and was to meet up with me later wherever it was that I wound up at. I hit a few bars near our hotel
and was discouraged with the kinds of crowds and general lack of females. I took a long walk as I didn't want to
get too drunk so early and stumbled upon a blues club and went in. It's not a large place and the bar is on the
small side. There were two women at the bar and 3 other guys (best odds I had seen so far). There was more seating
towards the back and also food being served. I began chatting with an interesting guy next to me and discovered
that we both were Vietnam vets and that we also both liked to frequent the same small beach town in NJ where my Mom
lives. At first I thought he might be gay but found out later that his speech was somewhat funny due to extensive
injuries he had received during the war. One of the women was sitting next to him and they knew each other, he also
knew this woman's husband who had been there too but left as I came in. The three of us had very interesting
conversations while waiting for the band to start playing. This band's specialties were Robert Johnson type music
so I got excited as my girlfriend Sue is a huge fan and I knew she'd want to be there. She finally arrived about
an hour later (after many cell phone calls) than we had thought she'd be freed up to leave her company event. She
was very excited about this band and started talking with the lead guitarist who realized that he was talking with
someone who "knew her stuff" about the Blues. In the meantime, the guy next to me says he's pretty tired and
leaves. So, that left me and this woman while Sue had moved to be right by the band. Well, she was all over me by
then, we were doing just about everything except kissing, feeling each other up so to speak, while trying not to be
too obvious about it. Sue finally noticed what was happening and went into her "competitive" mode and asked this
woman to dance with her. They danced one song and then went back to where they both had been. Her and I started up
again with the caresses while we talked with me revealing to her Sue's bisexuality. Well, that didn't go over too
well. This woman said to me that she thought Sue was looking at her strangely and then she accused me of trying to
engineer a 3-some which was really a false accusation as I had not planned anything at all (I will admit to though
that I was getting excited as it did seem up until then that it could very well happen). But, I soon learned this
other woman had zero attraction to women. But, she kept on caressing me and I her. Sue was ordering drinks up fast
and I was paying for them but wanted to stop and leave as I was getting soused and tired too. But, we stayed there
till after 1:30 AM. I had made plans to meet this woman again the following day as Sue had the whole Saturday
mapped out for her, meetings all day and a play to attend in the evening. I never did go back as I was really hung
over and had caught a cold on top of that. What struck me though as most important while wearing this combo is that
she thought I was a really cool guy but that I wasn't unapproachable either (I put this effect down to the SOE).
She said that she felt like she could tell me anything and in that regard she was confused as she said that she had
only ever felt that way before with some girlfriends of hers. I also, due to the copius amounts of beer I was
drinking, had to go the restroom frequently so I had to pass thru all the people in the sitting/eating area and it
was quite an age mix (20s to 70s) with equal amounts of men/women. I noticed lots of female eyes looking at me with
friendly smiles. I later realized that these people, if they were at all perceptive, had seen my girlfriend join me
at the bar but that I was playing around with another woman entirely. In my opinion there's no better pheromone
than to be seen with women.
Hit report #2: Sue and I live in a community that has many restrictions and if
you want to do something like paint your house a certain color, it has to be cleared through Property Management.
The woman who runs this operation is English, a real bitch, and a lesbian. She comes across as a Queen of the Manor
type. She also seems to hate me (at least that was my impression the one time I met her) but Sue and her get along
well (Sue thinks it because she has lesbian or bisexual written all over her own face). At any rate, circumstances
this past Thursday forced me to have to deal with her. I was emailing Sue back and forth (she was at her job) and I
told her that I was going to use mones before heading to the Bitch Queen's office. Sue laughed and wished me luck.
So I applied the same combo detailed above but this time I put it on my neck and hands as I knew I would be handing
her some paperwork. (one of the few times I've ever applied directly to my skin). I also was in her office within
5 minutes of applying the mones so they were as fresh as could be. When I entered she was there at a second desk
with her back turned to me and there was also another woman there who I've learned is the bookkeeper who only comes
in once a week ( I should point out that even though this bookkeeper was in close vicinity to me the mones seemed to
have no effect on her). I was ignored for a bit but she finally turned around, scowl on face, saw who it was, more
scowl in face, got up and came over to me. The mones hit her instantly. Her face lighted up, she read our request,
and said she'd try her best to approve it (really strange as everyone here complains about her always trying to
stop whatever it is one might want). Then she leaned over her other desk (this one faces to the front of the
office) right into me. She was getting really close to me and smiling the whole time. I thanked her and started to
leave but did turn a bit to notice that she was still gazing at me. Sue and I talked about it that evening and I
have suggested that we invite her over for dinner one evening and really do some pheromone experimenting!!
So it seems now that if you use a pretty standard AE/M and SOE combo with yet a third catalyst, you get some
damn good results. Could it be that Pherlure contains A1? I sure don't know but won't be running out to buy some
as the A1 is doing the trick for me.
My apologies for such a long post but I do know that some of the forum
members like to hear all the details. By the way, all 3 women involved are in their mid-50s and look pretty good,
scowls aside.
DUKE3100
11-05-2005, 10:49 AM
My apologies
for such a long post but I do know that some of the forum members like to hear all the details. By the way, all 3
women involved are in their mid-50s and look pretty good, scowls aside.
I am one of those that loves a
detailed post. It helped to solidify my decision to go with A1 first. I am sure everyone found it very helpful.
Thanks.
In regards to the Pherlure....I am told it boosts natural mone levels...I think that when you take a
mone that works well for you already and then hit it with a shot of Pherlure it intensifies things and steps it up a
notch or two. It also seems to raise anxiety and the need to act.
chicago
11-05-2005, 03:12 PM
koolking1 great report, please
keep them coming.
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MOBLEYC57
11-05-2005, 04:47 PM
I do have a
question though.... are you saying you dont wear khakies to a club....or are you saying A1 or Wagg wont do well in a
club...or both?
FIRST ... OUTSTANDING POST, Koolest of Kings! :thumbsup:
Nope, no khakies to
clubs, but if you pay for khakies, you can wear them anywhere you please. :rofl: What I meant was ... like khakies,
A1 and WAGG has their place in MY WORLD ... A1 for closeness/romance, and WAGG for quick friendliness ... Khakies
for office, lunch, shopping and bookstore use, and dress slacks or jeans for clubbing. The key to everything as far
as dress is concern ... never become predictable. I have a friend that whenever we venture out, I KNOW he has on
khakies. :blink:
DUKE3100
11-07-2005, 06:56 AM
I have tested
altercations of this combo and am here to update the results. I went out to a club and mingled for around 3 hours. I
also did a field test where I went around the mall and the grocery store with the cover and without it. I also went
through the mall with just Ae and no Soe. In each test I interacted with some cashiers to get a feel for peoples
moods. Here are the results.
1) Ae only
The results were what was to be expected. A couple people said
hi...maybe a little extra friendlyness and respect. Girls will sneak glances and looks but are shy about holding eye
contact most of the time. No surprises here.
2) Ae and Soe
In this phase with the mall test there was not
too much of a difference. The subtle difference at the mall/bookstore/grocery store was that people were more likely
to be friendly and not as shy. There was no clear hits...but smiles were easier to come by without provoking them
from people and eye contact and scanning was more common. Keep in mind that my interactions were short and there was
not much time for things to sink in on people. The club is where the difference is more prevalent by adding Soe.
This brings me to a good point. soe is only really useful in prolonged social situations. Most of you probably
already have figured that out....anyways....in the club I wore Ae and SOe with a Hugo Boss cover. Girls were making
mad eye contact and there was a lot of interest. If I made eye contact or nonverbal gestures...it was returned. Some
girls purposely bumped into me. One girl banged on my hip and several people started conversations. It was more laid
back and subtle than when I wear the combo with the Pherlure but very positive just the same.
3) Ae Soe
Pherlure
Inconclusive. results seemed very similar to without the Pherlure. A bit more open acting on feelings
from girls. As part of this particular experience there was little if any difference but historically this cover
seems to make females view you as someone to mess with in a playful flirty and sometimes downright mean spirited
way.
Up next: I will be going out two more times. Once to a sports bar type setting and another time to a club.
I will also do a comparitive field test at work. I have not been tampering with ratios but was tampering previously
and have found 1/3 pack Soe gets noticeable results with 2 drops Ae. Also 1/5 SOe with one drop Ae is a respectable
subtle quiet relaxing combo.
DUKE3100
11-07-2005, 06:59 AM
FIRST ...
OUTSTANDING POST, Koolest of Kings! :thumbsup:
Nope, no khakies to clubs, but if you pay for khakies, you can
wear them anywhere you please. :rofl: What I meant was ... like khakies, A1 and WAGG has their place in MY WORLD ...
A1 for closeness/romance, and WAGG for quick friendliness ... Khakies for office, lunch, shopping and bookstore use,
and dress slacks or jeans for clubbing. The key to everything as far as dress is concern ... never become
predictable. I have a friend that whenever we venture out, I KNOW he has on khakies. :blink:
Hey one
more question for you man. You seem to have experience with a lot of different mones. How do you compare Wagg and
Soe? I find that Soe gets results in high doses in prolonged social settings....its usually just a friendly greeting
or conversation starter from strangers and endless chat from friends. Is Wagg just an expensive Soe that has an
added element of trust or is there more to it than that? How do you compare peoples reactions?
koolking1
11-07-2005, 04:26 PM
thanks to everyone who
commented and enjoyed my posting. I am eager to do more testing myself but this cold I've come down with is very
flu like. I just wish it would be gone one morning when I wake up. Of course, Duke deserves a round of applause
and I am glad he's up to do the tests for all of us.
What I hope to be able to do soon is to mimic the time
in DC, namely find a bar where I can place myself next to a woman about my age or younger and see if the same thing
happens again. Sure hope so!!! The closeness is what matters most as I've learned in our swinging escapades. You
can't get any closer than that to test the mones. With just AE/M I get comments like "you've been with many
women, haven't you?" And, this is like when they get their first real strong whiff on the mones on my chest before
I do anything at all, my skills (if I have any at all) are really as of then unknown - and, nicely enough for me -
it takes a lot of pressure off of me to perform.
Cloud9
11-07-2005, 04:47 PM
I got good results with AE alone
as well...I've gotten better results with it when combined with other products sold here.
MOBLEYC57
11-07-2005, 07:33 PM
Hey one more
question for you man. You seem to have experience with a lot of different mones. How do you
compare Wagg and Soe? I find that Soe gets results in high doses in prolonged social settings....its usually just a
friendly greeting or conversation starter from strangers and endless chat from friends. Is Wagg just an expensive
Soe that has an added element of trust or is there more to it than that? How do you compare peoples
reactions?
Gee, I sure have you fooled! :trout:
TO ME, WAGG and SOE are kin ...
WAGG = You're
going to be my friend, and you have no choice! You're going to share your problems, thoughts, and ideas with me.
SOE = You're going to be my friend, and you're going to talk my ear off, BUT, if you hang around long enough,
you may get turned on! :smite:
Pretty much what you wrote, except with SOE, the conversation is plentiful!!!!
:sick:
That's my take, Dukey! :wave:
DUKE3100
11-11-2005, 10:30 AM
Update 2 of 3
I'm going
out over the weekend for one more test run. I have found that Soe gel converts and wears off pretty fast. Other than
that it seems that at the very least both are virtually the same with or without Pherlure....I had thought the
Pherlure was able to spike things but after close testing that does not appear to be the case as I get good results
without it. This weekend will decide it once and for all but it looks like
the combo doesnt need it. I will be
testing the product on its own too....although so far doesnt seem to do much....It looks like it will take time to
really know for sure...so for now I will leave this thread dead unless I have new news that differs.
koolking1
11-11-2005, 12:23 PM
hey guys!!! We're having
this couple over tonight and I'll try out the AE/m, SOE, A1 combo on the woman. I'm going to do it twice, once on
my outer clothing for when we're sitting to chat and eat, and then again on my skin: chest, neck, and groin area
for after dinner. We've been with them once before so I am sure we will wind up in bed. Results tomorrow!!!
koolking1
11-11-2005, 12:29 PM
oh we will, we will. This
woman had her first real experience with another woman (my Sue) the last time they were here, it's been about 3- 4
weeks since we've seen them. She loves Sue. She's chubbier than I like but it's a great opportunity to test and
find out how the A1/SOE works, I already know how well AE/m works in sexual situations. Laughing here, I should
secretly put a little A1 on Sue, damn, I think I will !!!!!
BizmanJoe
11-13-2005, 02:09 AM
Hey all, my first post here. I'm 40, just divorced, dark haired Eurasian,
olive-skinned, 5'11", 185lbs and with a good athletic/muscular build. Never had problems meeting fems (not an ego
statement) as most fems considered me to be cute, or handsome. However, I've always been shy and self-conscious. I
typically waited for the fem to approach and as a result didn't have as many relationships as I could have, but I
often got looks and stares from the opposite sex since my teens.
1st experiment: SOE 1/2 pack scented: actually
had women claim very vocally that I smelled "wonderful," hang around and talk to me, but I didn't get any specific
or overt hits.
2nd experiment: AE with 1/3 SOE. 2 drops AE + 1/3 gelpack SOE began getting me flirtatious stares
from 8 of 10 women in my vicinity. Those who would ask me questions (I manage a store), would stick to me like glue
and play with their hair while giving me a definite "invite" with their eyes and smiles. Ages ranged from 20 to 48.
However, had two 20 somethings avoid me like the plague... was it their time of the month???
3rd experiment: AE
3 drops + 1 spray 4.2 in hair (mixed with 1/6 WAGG). Wow! The fems were like "where the hell have you been all my
life?" Had one of the hottest chicks I've ever seen (10+ on the richter scale) aged about 25 - 27 stick to me like
glue - wouldn't leave the store - and kept asking me one question after another about losing weight (believe me -
she didn't need to lose a thing) and kept flashing her skin. She gave me her name and number and asked for a
date.
4th experiment: 1 spray TE on crotch + 1/2 gelpack SOE + 2 drops AE in club environment. Yes, the fems
were either checking me out or hanging around me. Even those who were in front with their backs toward me would turn
after a while to check me out. Got approached by two fems - one a real hottie - got numbers and dates from both.
Kept getting stares from fems and was getting "brushed" frequently.
5th experiment: accidental spill of NPA onto
my wrist + 1/2 pack SOE. Definite nervousness or timidness around me. Even my employees became quiet and shied away.
Probably an OD from the NPA spill.
Overall best for me: AE 3 drops. As a stand-alone, it works phenomenally
well. Don't need anything else. I get approached often and get names and numbers practically daily. Approaching
fems age varies from 23 - 35. Although, I get many approaches from 36+ fems, I don't get overtly friendly with 36
and above intentionally because I don't want the baggage that is typically attached to such fems (kids, emotional
hangover from divorce, etc.)
P.S. My cover scents were: Drakkar, Hugo BOSS, Davidoff Cool Water, Dolce y
Gabbana, Eternity for Men. Best results were with cover scents of Dolce y Gabbana or Hugo BOSS.
Hope this
helps.
DUKE3100
11-13-2005, 08:24 AM
[QUOTE=BizmanJoe]Overall best
for me: AE 3 drops. As a stand-alone, it works phenomenally well. Don't need anything else. I get approached often
and get names and numbers practically daily. Approaching fems age varies from 23 - 35. Although, I get many
approaches from 36+ fems, I don't get overtly friendly with 36 and above intentionally because I don't want the
baggage that is typically attached to such fems (kids, emotional hangover from divorce, etc.)
[QUOTE]
It helps
alright.....if your tryin to make me jealous....you get apporoached on a DAILY basis for YOUR contact
information???? Who are you in real life....Brad Pitt?? Damn....:cheers:
DUKE3100
11-13-2005, 08:30 AM
Update 3 of 3
The testing
phase is over. I will be testing Pherlure alone for a while though....probably next week to see what happens. My
final verdict is that it needs to stick to one spray to upper chest/neck area or in hair. Its kinda like none but
its not. It seems to get girls to be more likely to mess with you...sometimes in a flirty aggresive way and other
times in a mean spirited way. Combined with any amount of none it maximizes and brings attention to none's
drawbacks or downfalls. Not sure if it does anything to the other mones yet. As far as its purposes in this
combo....if it makes a difference it tends to be a negative one with most girls. At first I thought it may be a key
ingrediant....and no doubt some of the craziest and bizarre hits have come with the combo including Pherlure.....but
the clear winner after extensive testing for consistancy is 1/4-1/3 Soe to neck and hair 2-3 drops Ae to neck and
ears cover with mist spray Hugo Boss to hair and to upper chest/neck area. Without the Pherlure the results are more
consistant and laid back/subtle...but thats not necessarily a bad thing. I have been bit...pushed...jumped
on....told at work in front of everyone that I am a bad boy and that I need to behave myself as girls are all around
me. (I didnt do anything to warrent this). I have had a girl use my margarita beads I was wearing and she grabbed
ahold of it and shook me all around...and I have been pushed off a dance stage and taunted. When crazy stuff like
this doesnt happen it tends to be just short of dirty looks or aggresively negative actions. Other times its like it
will cancel out all the other mones and make it like I have none on. I like to gamble here and there but I think I
will take consistancy. The winning combo is less expensive and more reliable. So thats my verdict.:type:
P.S.....I will continue to post here with results on Ae and Soe and I hope all of you do too. This has turned out
to be a very informative thread with plenty of input from some very experienced and detailed people. I may also add
something further about my testing of Pherlure as a sidenote....but pretty sure I have it figured out....I think it
magnifies your mones and other mones. I think I am already producing a good amount of none and I usually od when
using pherlure which is why I get bizarre results off it. None tends to be unstable in general if you are wearing
too much of it. Especially when you combine it with my laid back cool collected demeaner and my need to tell it how
it is.
MOBLEYC57
11-13-2005, 08:31 AM
[QUOTE=BizmanJoe]Hey all, my
first post here. I'm 40, just divorced, dark haired Eurasian, olive-skinned, 5'11", 185lbs and with a good
athletic/muscular build.
3rd experiment: AE 3 drops + 1 spray 4.2 in hair (mixed with 1/6
WAGG). [\QUOTE]
OUTSTANDING POST! :wave:
All the how/where/ages are covered ... Love it when I
don't have to ask a question, BUT math is my weakness ... if you get a minute, could you explaing the 4.2 mixed
with 1/6 WAGG, please? :sad:
Thanks!:run:
Oooops! P.S. Are you covering your SOE with AE or AE with
SOE, or are you applying them separately in different areas? :think:
koolking1
11-14-2005, 01:48 PM
Hi guys, sorry for the
delayed response.
Friday night didn't go as well as I'd hoped. The fat chick seemingly did not respond
at all to my AE/m, SOE, A1 combo. It actually turned out kinda weird as my Sue decided that she wasn't into this
woman anymore (had some strange thoughts about her due to her weight is what she told me later on). The guy seemed
much more at ease this time than last and we actually got on pretty well. Sue hit the sack early and the 3 of us
sat around and talked for an hour or so before they left. Sue felt kinda bad for ignoring her and is going to call
her at some point and explain things along the lines of "one of those nights I wanted a man instead of a woman".
Sunday turned out better. Another couple came over (I mentioned this woman before, she's the one who
caught my scent about a month ago and said "wow, you've really been with a lot of women, haven't you?"). Pretty
much the same thing again this time, lots of compliments and some pretty hot sex, including my doing her anally.
She told Sue later that she was so happy that I'd done her that way. She also kept saying things like "you two are
such a perfect couple together". I've gotten that line before while wearing mones, I think it's some kind of
confusion thing - I'm wearing mones and my woman isn't, female gets attracted but lays it onto "they are such a
nice couple" kinda thing.
I won't be doing any more testing till this coming Sat night. We're flying
down to Tampa as my kiddie is having an operation. I've had good luck on planes with mones so will see what
happens. Am also thinking that due to the warmer weather down there that results may be better.
Nice to
see the new posters. Keep up the good work guys.
Cloud9
11-14-2005, 02:16 PM
Am also thinking that due
to the warmer weather down there that results may be better.
I find that when I get hot and lightly
sweating i get faster reactions and sometimes more reactions. getting hot works best I think with the oil based
pheromones because they are slower releasing than the alcohol based ones like TE/NPA.
oscar
11-22-2005, 10:35 AM
Duke,
I got to
thinking about where the phero ratio dynamic goes when you start adding SOE to an application of AE.
Since SOE has
no A-None, for every (X) amount of SOE added to AE, the prominence of A-None is diminished in terms of its ranking
within the resulting phero ratio. (Maybe not what I would want to do for myself, being an older guy, but probably
not a bad idea for the "20-somethings".)
Since gels are difficult to measure, and hellish to do calculations
on, I figured I'd do a hypothetical "mix" (on paper) to see what the ratios of the pheromones looked like when
mixing equal volumes of the bottled versions of AE and SOE.
Adding the phero content of 1mL of each product:
0.2mg A-None, 0.15mg A-Nol, 0.1mg A-Rone (AE)
-------------- 0.4 mg A-Nol, 0.1mg A-Rone (SOE)
(You get 2mL of
an AE/SOE mix that contains: )
_________________________________________
0.2mg A-None, 0.55mg A-Nol, 0.2mg
A-Rone
(Dividing this by 2 to get the "per mL" content: )
_________________________________________
0.1mg
A-None, 0.275mg A-Nol, 0.1mg A-Rone (AE+SOE @1:1)
....a formula which is not too radically different from that
of another product, (which coincidentally seems to work quite favorably for the younger guys as well):
Perception,
whose content per mL is:
0.1mg A-None, 0.2mg A-Nol, 0.1mg A-Rone.
So the more SOE that you add to AE (up to the
point of equilibrium), the closer you get to the phero formula of Perception, albeit a more "Nol-heavy" variation.
What I'm seeing here is a sort of "mutual validation" of the phero formula of Perception and that of the AE/SOE
combo for younger guys.
Oscar :)
DUKE3100
11-22-2005, 10:50 AM
Thanks....I actually recently
put an order in for some perception gel packs so I will get to test these out and see how it goes. Thanks for the
info!!
BizmanJoe
05-16-2006, 03:02 AM
[quote=BizmanJoe]Hey all, my first post here. I'm 40, just divorced, dark haired Eurasian,
olive-skinned, 5'11", 185lbs and with a good athletic/muscular build.
3rd experiment: AE 3 drops +
1 spray 4.2 in hair (mixed with 1/6 WAGG). [\QUOTE]
OUTSTANDING POST! :wave:
All the
how/where/ages are covered ... Love it when I don't have to ask a question, BUT math is my weakness ... if you get
a minute, could you explaing the 4.2 mixed with 1/6 WAGG, please? :sad:
Thanks!:run:
Oooops! P.S.
Are you covering your SOE with AE or AE with SOE, or are you applying them separately in different areas?
:think:
1/6 WAGG meaning having added 1/6 bottle of WAGG into Andro 4.2 bottle.
SOE is rubbed into
my jaw line and throat, AE applied separately on both sides of neck. Sorry for the delayed response...
BizmanJoe
05-16-2006, 03:06 AM
[quote=BizmanJoe]Hey all, my first post here. I'm 40, just divorced, dark haired Eurasian,
olive-skinned, 5'11", 185lbs and with a good athletic/muscular build.
3rd experiment: AE 3 drops +
1 spray 4.2 in hair (mixed with 1/6 WAGG). [\QUOTE]
OUTSTANDING POST! :wave:
All the
how/where/ages are covered ... Love it when I don't have to ask a question, BUT math is my weakness ... if you get
a minute, could you explaing the 4.2 mixed with 1/6 WAGG, please? :sad:
Thanks!:run:
Oooops! P.S.
Are you covering your SOE with AE or AE with SOE, or are you applying them separately in different areas?
:think:
------
Sorry for the delayed response. I've just began posting again. Now then,
1/6 WAGG
meaning 1/6 bottle of WAGG mixed into Andro 4.2 bottle.
P.S. I apply the SOE separately from AE. SOE is
typically applied on my jaw line and front part of the throat. AE is applied on either side my my neck by the
carotid artery (for pulsing effect since AE is oil based).
shadeofgreen
05-18-2006, 04:09 PM
i just got NPA
in the mail yesterday and i heard about this combo and that its very effective so i did like 12-16 inches of SoE on
my wrists and neck and about 3 dabs of NPA on my chin. i didnt really notice any effects, does anyone know what a
good dosage would be to start out with?
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