What is on your list?

[mptty]

So as a new guy I

would like to thank all of the old timers out there. For the other new guys keep looking you will find that this

junk works. It is so stupid! But man, what a ride.

I have got to stop wearing it at work; I have too many

people hanging out in my office. Women!

I have gotten stares, redden faces, nipple hardening in my presence

(with me just standing there smiling and noding my head).

So I just started out small: AE. This is and all

around product that is hard to screw up. I think it smells great. I have asked women if they could smell that i

was wearing too much colone. They told me to put more on!!

So now I'm in!
I have orders in for PI NPA

SOE and TE.

When these come I am going to do mix and match, starting with my AE and the base then adding it

withthe others in combinations

AE/PI ( this should be fun! )
AE/NPA ( I might start here )
AE/ TE (

safer mix)??
AE/ SOE ( hmmm , maybe too safe for me Use it at work?)

then:
PI/ SOE ( party mix... heavy

on the PI ... tone it down with SOE)
PI/ TE

I know some of this is redundant, But ifeel that there is some

body chemistry with oil and ETOH reactions on the skin from my readings of the forums.

I want to try PCC too

in the mix.

FYI I'm 44 white guy. Soon to be single again. This stuff is a great ego booster. I m wearing

it all of the time. 3 application a day, about every 4 hours

mptty

[gfunk]

Hi mptty!:wave:

:goodpost:

To be honest I do wonder if any of these newbies asking the oldies ever give any advantage at all as

we're all different and the very best thing for you is to try all of these things and compare them yourself. In

fact try each product alone and you'll get a better grip of what theyll do for you. The very best starting tips you

do actually find in the pherolibrary, and you should do the testing yourself.

Which scented version of AE do you

have? I have both but love the last version

Also, when applying and re-applying so often, how much AE are you

wearing?

AE worked greatly for me, and the next step I went from there was two drops PI and 8" of SOE which

basically is a super-potent AE-dose. Got amazing results at work. Lately I've discovered Chikara which was an eye

opener, and now I'm at testing phase again...

Good luck with the junk!:whip:

[jollysnowdevil]

ae has two scents?

honestly i've only ever used the gel packs. sounds like your having fun.

PI got me good results was

actually the first mone i ever used. eventually i ended up oding everyday and that was a bummer but everybody is

young and stupid at least once. Te is the weakest form of none you listed... then npa... and PI is twice the

strength of npa drop for drop minus the "secret ingredient"

me i like perception better than ae but

then again i'm using it for more business than sexual. if i want to spice it up more than i just add npa or TE. i

was going to get PI again but as im still young and my natural none output ranges from low to very high npa was a

better choice. chikara didn't do anythign for me.

have fun

[Netghost56]

Sounds like the older guys

are having more fun than the younger guys. With age comes wisdom and personality, I guess.

[belgareth]

Sounds like

the older guys are having more fun than the younger guys. With age comes wisdom and personality, I

guess.
More likely it's patience. Most older guys are willing to take the time to work out what really

works for them. They are also less impatient about getting a woman to the bedroom. We also have a wider field to

work in. Most older guys will happily seduce a much younger woman or a woman their own age. Most younger guys will

not consider a woman 20 years older than them. We have twice the chances of success. There is probably some

attraction that older men create with younger women, but I'll be damned if I know how it works. It just happens.

Most older guys are a lot more secure in who and what they are which helps a lot too. I imagine it is something

anybody can do but it is only something you can learn by experience. One point I find really helps me is that I

rarely take anybody very seriously. The higher a woman's opinion of herself, the less likely I am to take her

seriously. Keep in mind always that for every woman you refuse to talk to or that gets irritated with you, there are

thousands more out there.

[Netghost56]

Soooo, basically: You spend

the first half of your life wanting to be older, and the second half wanting to be younger.

Got it.

That

sucks.

[belgareth]

Soooo,

basically: You spend the first half of your life wanting to be older, and the second half wanting to be younger.



Got it.

That sucks.

Indeed, it sucks! You have summed up the situation quite well. :box:



Actually, I wouldn't want to be younger than I am. Right now, what I have and where I am in my life is the best

it has ever been. There is little I could ask further from life.

[jollysnowdevil]

i plan to go out of this

world with a women 1/4 of my age, a smile on my face and a heart attack.

i hafta agree the younger men really

get too anxious and overexcited with mones dreaming of porno type fantasies. i think it's a matter of expectations.

the younger crowd seems to just want sex with many different women. the older men are much more patient and know how

to make the most of any situation.

i wouldnt want to be younger but i must say nowadays round here the young

women are so much more developed then my generation. jailbait everywhere and you cant judge simply by looks anymore.

15 year olds looking like they are 25ish.

[belgareth]

i plan

to go out of this world with a women 1/4 of my age, a smile on my face and a heart attack.

Now there's

an admirable goal in life.:box:



i wouldnt want to be younger but i must say nowadays

round here the young women are so much more developed then my generation. jailbait everywhere and you cant judge

simply by looks anymore. 15 year olds looking like they are 25ish.

Tell me about it! I have an 18 year

old daughter. Her friends are fun to look at and a lot of them like to flirt with me. But there's no way on earth

I'd touch one of them despite how utterly tempting a few of them are. There's one cute little brunnette with eyes

I could get lost in for weeks and an incredible body...

[Gegogi]

I know what you mean brother.

Today an incrediably attractive Filipina student was boldly flirting with me (I was wearing IMPI). I was just

thinking I could get lost in her eyes for a few weeks myself. Then I found out she just turned 18. I figured she was

in her mid-20s (due to her boldness and well developed body). Not jailbait but I could imagine her father coming

after me...

[belgareth]

Angry daddy, especially one

with a shotgun, is one of the quickest ways I know of to ruin your day. I'm ethically oppossed to being hunted for

touching somebody's little girl. But the temptation can be nearly as bad.

[surfs_up]

as you grow older and wiser you also understand the value of errrrrr.... age

appropriate women... there are soooo many cute, pretty, scrumptuous young things out in the environment with not a

whole hell of a lot to say to an older guy.... after a while it can turn booooooooooring, mind numbing

actually....

[belgareth]

Most girls when

turn 18 or 19 go to college/university or leave their homes and start jobs working etc,so i think it is not problem

to see couples with people who are 40-45 to women 20-25 so if she is living on her own,you can do whatever you

want,as long as all human being respect each other.
You simplify badly. My daughter is 18 and in the

university. Most of her friends are as well and many of them live at home. Depending on the situation, I might have

something to say if I caught a 40+ year old man chasing her.

That said, my girlfriend was a student when I met

her, that's how we met. There is a 20 year gap in our ages but in our case it isn't all that important. She is

mature and I'm immature. We have a lot to talk about because we have so many similar interests and her education is

fantastic. But, that isn't always the case. I'd bet it is a rarity. I can only think of a few successful couples

I've known with that kind of an age gap. Surfsup is absolutely right about the lack of commonality with people that

much younger than you in most cases. But us old guys usually aren't looking for a quick screw. We know it gets

better as you know each other better.

[mptty]

Well this has turned

into a fun thread. Glad to see you all here. To answer a few questions:

I don't know which AE I have gold

label recent purchase from love scent.

I use 2 drops behind the ear and about a half drop on the wrist rubbed

together. Also I see what you mean about build up. I think this one guy who is always happy bummed out when he

came into the offfice. I watched him deflate like a balloon. I had good news for him too. So I going to the sauna

this afternoon and cook it off my skin.

On to the women: BRING THEM ON!! I like to have fun with people of

all ages. From women I like them to have a thought in their head, a little traveled, educated, still willing to try

new things. That ussually means 30 years old and up
After 24 years with the same woman and a divorce on the way

pheromones have helped my attitude. Smiles, bumps, tity rubs 44 is not that old. I don't believe pheromones alone

won't get you laid, you have got to get your game on. They guys who say 'mones alone got the job done are good at

seducing women. I was bad at that when I was younger; I 'm changing that.
I have been surfing the net for

dating guides etc. The best source that I have found so far is fastseduction.com This is just what I have found

and liked, not a promotional for the site. Pheromones plus the stuff on the site are needed, together I am finding

that I can approach any woman with confidence; AE gve you a great edge.

Still having way much more

fun.
mptty

[CptKipling]

I've had the opportunity to

read his material, and while potentially good at smacking certain negative traits out of people, most if it and more

can be found elsewhere on the internet for free.

mptty has it right when he says that pheromones and "dating

guides" are two different aspects of being more attractive to women. Having the right attitude (however you get

that) and pheromones together make for a powerful tool.

Seriously, people on this forum could teach you a thing

or two about general behavior with women if you asked.

[tounge]

as you grow older

and wiser you also understand the value of errrrrr.... age appropriate women... there are soooo many cute, pretty,

scrumptuous young things out in the environment with not a whole hell of a lot to say to an older guy.... after a

while it can turn booooooooooring, mind numbing actually....




Yeah! Tell me about.

Sometimes that young supple flesh just ain't worth the mind numbing goofyness that the young chickadees bring to

the table(or bed).

[jollysnowdevil]

4 years ago i moved up to

ski country for the winter to work for a ski resort kind of a working vacation. one night i had picked up this

really hot women in a supermarket. she kept me up all night long for a few nights getting freaky. she kept calling

me "daddy" the next few days.

later in the week after one of my 12 hour snowmaking shifts i was out partying in

the local watering hole pounding beers with my crew and my supervisor. my supervisor asked me why i hadn't been out

drinking with them the last couple of nights so i ended telling them all the freaky details. i mean everything. i

finished my beer was about to go to the bathroom when i hear from right behind me her voice saying " hi daddy". i

whipped around with a silly half drunken grin and said "hi sweetie". right then my supervisor who was sitting right

next to me looked at her looked at me and said "how do you know my daughter? you know she just turned 17 right?" i

almost had a heart attack fell off my stool spilled my beer.

luckily for me i didn't lose my job, thank god

for the mones. i never would have guessed she was that young especially considering she was known like a regular in

the local bars and never got carded. i just assumed she had to be older. man that was the shock of my life.

needless to say i didn't see her anymore after that night.

"god gave man two heads but only enough blood for

one of them to work at a time" - Robin Williams

[mptty]

I've had the

opportunity to read his material, and while potentially good at smacking certain negative traits out of people, most

if it and more can be found elsewhere on the internet for free.

Seriously, people on this forum could teach

you a thing or two about general behavior with women if you asked.

CptKipling is very right. The

material on that web site is available for free all over the web. You just have to search for it. most of it is

very expensive for what you would get. They ask 50$ for 100 page of low density material. However, "Without

Embarrassment: The Social Coward's Totally Fearless Seduction" is the only one I would consider paying money for (

I got it free). It has most of what the others have with minor exceptions totaling 333 pages it is a legit size book

for about 40-50$. If you want to buy it. I'm 44 years old dated mmore that a few women and have learned alot from

this book. Plus it fits the psyc of a pheromone user.

On to my pheromone usage...
After several days of

AE I think a had an accumulation overdose. I was bumed out and slept alot. It was like having drank toomuch

coffee. My body was tired but I could not sleep like I have overstimulated myself. I can see why peolpe use this

like SOE to take that edge off. So I have stopped for a couple of days.

Important note: These chemicals

effect you as well as your intended or unitended targets. Be warned.


I have watched the hits spiral to

near zero... just weird... king of the city... then back to being the serf. As I write this I am alone in my office

for the first time in days. I hope the PI and SOE get here for the weekend.

Work like you don't need the

money.
Dance like no one is watching,
and love like you've never been hurt.

Have a balanced

day,
mptty

[Rbt]

First:

I recall reading

somewhere on this forum that the AE scent had changed slightly. In fact I think it said the "newest" batch actually

went back to an *earlier* version of the cover scent!


Second:

It might be a welcome idea, if moderator

allowed, to start a thread on the "Open Discussion" part of the Forums to list links to some of those "dating and

seduction" websites, especially the free ones, and include some general reviews/opinions of the materials.

For

the record, I found parts of fastseduction.com are free for the reading. No charge.

Maybe we caould start our

own version of a dating help site in the Open Discussion section and save everybody the hassle of going elsewhere?

Of course that may make the placed that charge for the info ticked off...

[Netghost56]

So? They're overpriced to

begin with.

[MOBLEYC57]

First:

I recall reading somewhere on this forum that the AE scent had changed slightly.

In fact I think it said the "newest" batch actually went back to an *earlier* version of the cover scent!



I'm getting and losing gray nose hair waiting for them to come back with the

unscented AE.


:box:PLEASE:box:

[jollysnowdevil]

i know the scent of the

ae gel packs fades really quickly on me. does the scent of the liquid ae fade quickly to?

[MOBLEYC57]

i know the

scent of the ae gel packs fades really quickly on me. does the scent of the liquid ae fade quickly

to?

No really. I've never really paid attention to the time the scent lasts. Shows you how much

I've been paying attention. Will have to check that out.

AND, is it me or does RM smell just like AE? :sad:

Anyone!? Anyone? :blink:

[Watcher]

my advice is keep wearing it to

work and lock the door to the office :) but yeah where it everyday its all fun.