Abusive alpha male type at work &PI od

[bolounit]

He got fired

for sexualy harrassing a woman :rofl:

[Gegogi]

Cool, I hope his penis shrank a

couple inches.

[Watcher]

are or were u still wearing the

mones around him and everyone else - well there u go see these things happen to the nicest (hehe) of people im sure

he will now modify his behaviour or stay unemployed

[bolounit]

i overheard he was fired for s.h. .........................................s?h? oh sexual

harressement

[belgareth]

Oh darn! I'll bet that ruined

your whole day. Such a shame.:LOL:

The do say that time wounds all heals. Now aren't you glad you didn't get

into a physical confrontation?

[Numanoid]

He got fired for

sexualy harrassing a woman :rofl:

HA! That's funny. He did slip up after all...:lol:

[DrSmellThis]

Good riddance. Hope he didn't

let the door hit him in the @$$.

Guess he wasn't such an alpha male after all.

[Watcher]

nah he was more the intimidating

violent type * basically a large beta monkey who keeps his place on the heap with intimidation and psychical

violence (wouldnt want to be his wife)

As for s.h had to eb sexual harassment (social harassment) shit hit

(fan) perhaps

Good riddence good to see monkeys like that get fired for those sorts of things.

[gamecity]

I know martial arts enough to

know about boxing and ground fights. If you have training in boxing, you will win on a standing fight. The boxer can

dodge and deliver fast powerful punches that can screw your head up. He will have great mobility with his

feet/legs.

But if you have training fighting in the ground then you will win against the boxer. All you have to

do is take him down and fight him there. His boxing punches, reflex and agility won't work in the ground. The

ground fighter will have the mobility, stamina and position all the time which will allow him to severely injure the

boxer. Fighting in the ground is the reason why Karate, Tae-kwon-do, etc people hardly go to UFC. These martial arts

are trained to fight standing up. Most of these guys have no training fighting in the ground. A wrestler in UFC can

defeat them easily.

Anyway back to the point. If you want to take him to the edge then wear some heavy

androstenone products. You also have to mock him on whatever he is saying. If he says "I'm a great boxer." You have

to jokingly mock him like "You're a boxer? With those skinny legs/arms, your grandma can kill you". You have to

always win with the smart remarks and never back down in a jokingly verbal fight. You will always have to have the

last word. This takes a lot of guts. To do what you want to do takes a lot of guts in order to accomplish. You will

have to abandon your previews way of life which is sitting down, being quiet and allowing him to verbally mock you

for his own ego which will be hard for you. Actually it might even be impossible for you.

My comment on violence.

Violence is all over the world. Strong powerful people will step on the weaklings. It happens in schools, business,

companies, streets, countries, etc. It is the only thing that will never change, the powerful will always step on

the weaklings. It's happening in Iraq right now. It's happening in third world countries. Their government is so

corrupt, that people are dying of starvation. Microsoft is bullying other companies so that microsoft can make a lot

of money. US gov officials are taking money/donations from big companies. In our day of age in this world, you need

to be powerful in order accomplish something you want or something great. You need to be ahead of other people in

terms of mentaly, or physically or emotionally.

Violence is the only solution to a lot of problems but people

are weak and cowards that they don't use it. People are attach or chained to their way of life that they won't do

anything to change it. They like to watch tv, eat nice food, hang out, have fun, take care of their children,

family, etc. They hold on to life even if it's a pathetic life. Third world countries have so many people starving

and yet the government officials take vacations at $20k/per night hotels. The people sell their bodies for sex, do

cheap labor, and some even work on jobs that will make them sick just so they have food on the table. They are too

cowardly to take actions or take violence in their hands to change the government. LOL if a corrupt country has a

civil war, the outcome of it will surely improve the lives of the people in the country no matter who wins but

people are too afraid. Yet the governement officials hire assassins to kill or put fear on anyone in the news or

media that will give them a bad name. Violence is a weapon that the strongest and powerful can wield and use. A

person needs to use it just to be on the same leveling field of the game. Violence is an action that the weak will

be against on because they lack the courage or understanding or they have never been in a situation that they need

it. The weak will always let people walk all over them and it will be ok according to their mind.

LOL I wrote an

essay already. Anyway, I don't suggest violence in your case. I don't suggest allowing him to walk all over you

also. If you practiced jiujitsu, or ninjitsu or wrestling then you have a great chance to win. All anyone needs to

do is protect the head, go in, grab, take him down and beat the crap out of him in the ground. If he assaults you

verbally, then assault him verbally.

If he mocks you then you mock him. Or you can talk to him in a nice way and

say "hey, stop, it's not funny anymore, you are crossing the line and I'm not going to take it". Think about what

you want to do then do it. Don't plan the perfect situation with the perfect words or the perfect scenario. Think

hard about what you want to say and do then confront him and do it. It's your life, your decision will affect who

you are in the future. This reminds me of a quote. Batman said something like this, it's not who you are inside or

what you can do that defines you. It's what you do or your actions that defines you.

[gamecity]

LOL I should have read the

whole thread. He got fired already. I wrote my piece for nothing. HAHA!!

[Cloud9]

:frustrate I bet you feel like

this?

[Gegogi]

Violence is the only solution to a lot of problems but people are weak and cowards that they don't use it.


On the contrary, violence begets more violence and eventually spirals out of control. cowards and idiots

use violence against the weaker and less able. They rarely use it against somebody more powerful than them. Violence

is best used as the last resort when all other avenues have been exhausted. Plus if you attempt to solve "a lot of

problems" with violence you're destined to enjoy daily beatings and bufu sessions in the big house with other

violent crimmals. And I might add, that's where you belong if you embrace that life...

[Mick]

I had a similar experience that

only got better recently no knuckle fight challenges lol but plenty of cockiness, foolish remarks & just plain

rudeness I found it challenging at 1st to argue it out but in the end I just got sick of it! so I was quite generous

with the PI-w 4 drops on my face (coz he used to like to get up real close & try to intimidate me) it sure fixed the

problem :rofl: its like hes really shy around me now & when he DOES speak its all compliments LOL! so i'll go with

what visionary said :goodpost: use pheros that are A-nol like SOE or WAGG maybe even try a lil copulins but be

careful here because you dont want him to start getting horny over you

Good luck anyhow

[Mick]

:frustrate I bet you

feel like this?

I do! I skipped a few & went straight to replying lmao!! that'll teach me

[belgareth]

I know

martial arts enough to know about boxing and ground fights. If you have training in boxing, you will win on a

standing fight. The boxer can dodge and deliver fast powerful punches that can screw your head up. He will have

great mobility with his feet/legs.

But if you have training fighting in the ground then you will win against the

boxer. All you have to do is take him down and fight him there. His boxing punches, reflex and agility won't work

in the ground. The ground fighter will have the mobility, stamina and position all the time which will allow him to

severely injure the boxer. Fighting in the ground is the reason why Karate, Tae-kwon-do, etc people hardly go to

UFC. These martial arts are trained to fight standing up. Most of these guys have no training fighting in the

ground. A wrestler in UFC can defeat them easily.


I've been involved in martial arts for about 30

years in one form or another. We are taught how to avoid being put into a position of grappling and how to deal with

it if we are. You may be correct about boxing, I don't know a thing about it, but any properly trained fighter in

the martial arts knows how to handle that effectively.

In the past I've found very few reasons to allow

situations to degenerate into a fight. Fighting can almost always be honorably avoided. As a matter of fact,

avoiding violence is more often the honorable path. Being able to rip you apart because I am better trained and

faster proves very little other than that I am not smart enough to have avoided fighting, despite my triaining.



I suggest instead that you study General Sun of China. He stands out as probably the best single military mind

ever. He found ways to avoid fighting as a matter of course.

[DrSmellThis]

If you talk to the president

of Iran, he will give you all the classic, macho reasons why Israel and the US need to be wiped from the map. The

reasons sound good on the surface to dim people with certain affiliations. There are lots of people who think we all

ought to be violent right now in this country. If you judge the invasion if Iraq by the macho attitude, it was hands

down the best thing to do. But look where it got us so far. People spanking their kids (always unnecessary if you

know parenting techniques) is another example.

Most always people who choose violence are failing to grasp the

bigger picture. The purpose of living is more to succeed, than to be the biggest baddest MF.

[Cloud9]

Most always people who

choose violence are failing to grasp the bigger picture. The purpose of living is more to succeed, than to be the

biggest baddest MF.


Certainly is fun to watch people play this role in movies though!

[Watcher]

yes the 4 drops of PI is always

useful to get overbearing morons out of youre face esp those that try intimidation tactics. As for the couplins

well let him get horny over u it might make him confused - if he thinks he is gay he will probably avoid u like the

plague

[Cloud9]

As for the couplins well

let him get horny over u it might make him confused - if he thinks he is gay he will probably avoid u like the

plague

unless he's "confused", then he might like it.

[Gegogi]

Gay or straight isn't always a

clear distinction. There's lots of gray areas and may change by the hour. A few men and many women I've known are

sexual omnivores. That is, they're running both AC and CD or walking on both sides of the fence so to speak. My

last two GFs were that way. I even knew a guy that looked with favor on animals. He especially liked dogs and

grossed us all out at a drunken party years ago.

[Watcher]

mmmm there was a case in australia

where some lawyer takign ICE (party drug) was so messed up he was doing a daily dose of 5-10 rabbits they found

hundreds of dead rabbits out the back of his city office dying from interference.

He had basically done the

rabbitso ver in a drug state - quite disguisting actually

[Cloud9]

he was having sex with the

rabbits, snorting rabbit hair, drinking rabbit blood, eating the poor baby rabbits, or giving the rabbits drugs in

hoping they'd be his friend...I'm unclear which one of these it is?

[DrSmellThis]

Some things are better left a

mystery.

[Gegogi]

Sheesh, I worse I've ever done

was wear rabbit fur gloves. And I felt so evil.

[Watcher]

um cloud he wsa having sexual

intercourse with the bunnies.

[Cloud9]

god...those poor poor bunnies.

When he goes to hell..there is going to be a giant black bunny rabbit that rapes him in the ass every day for

eternity.

[Watcher]

tbh there was mental issues

brought on by drug use - i think he copped a substantial criminal penalty to and was ordered to avoid all pet stores

and not allowed to ever own a pet again

[DrSmellThis]

um cloud he wsa

having sexual intercourse with the bunnies.Those who don't know the risks of that haven't seen Wallace and

Gromit.

[mptty]

Work is about a

paycheck. NEVER FIGHT AT WORK!! If he hits you call the cops. Get a restrining order on him that day.he will lose

his job because he cannot legally come to work. I have see this done.

Any company worth working for is

worried about its profits. If this guy is not helping the compnay he is hurting it, Management will want to get rid

of him. Get that information to the right people and he is gone. No fight, this is money.
Is there a sugestion

box? Can you say unsigned letters? People read those things. How about a letter to someone above your supervisor

(home adress?) Don't whine, hit them in the wallet; reduced moral leads to reduced production and lower profits--

unless you work for the government.


Reading between the lines: Are ouy in a remote region where there is

limit work opertunities? I grew up in a mining town, you had to work for the company. Busted my ass to get out of

the town, went to school, I can buy and sell that town.

James Bond facotry move: newspaper

defence:
{takes place in break roomof factory}
Monkey brain: Duuuuh.... wana knuckle fight?
JB minding his

own business: Sure as soon as I finish reading.
JB siting in the middle of the rooms continues to read untill

break is over.
JB: Smiles at monkey brain, goes on-shift before lead worker.
JB does this every day for a

month and is recognized as a lead worker.
Monkey brain is replaced.

True leadership is not achevied by

threat of force, but by the will of others to follow a path that they have been shown as just and right by one

person.

Phereomones are a tweek, they open a door that is already open faster and wider, they will never

unlock one.

Do you need to beat this guy or do you need a job?

[mptty]

P.S. The bunny stuff was weird!

[DrSmellThis]

The pacifist should "fess up".



Friday night I was playing music at a pub when some drunk guy came to my girlfrind's table, sat down next to

her, put his hand on her thigh, and started spewing pickup talk. I stopped playing, told him that was my girlfriend,

and my seat next to her. He then began tapping the back of my guitar. He said "you have a cute girlfriend, and

wrapped his arm around her. She didn't like it, but is very small, and was too intimidated to do anything. I stood

up and told him to take his F---ing hand off. He picked up a metal chair and prepared to swing it at my head.

Someone grabbed the chair, but he then lunged toward me. He was bigger than me, and beyond the point of insanity. I

quickly considered side-kicking him in the stomach (which would have thrown him backwards), but decided to let him

get closer so I could have more control over him, in case he wanted to get other weapons. Still carrying an

expensive Martin guitar (yes, I'm an idiot), I hit him twice in the face pretty hard with my free hand, injuring

his nose; and he bent over. People were able to push him out of the back door as I was sitting my guitar down,

before I could hit him again.

Shortly thereafter, four squad cars showed up. He threatened to kill police, and

was arrested. Turns out he had been wandering through the bar harrassing and intimidating various people, especially

women. Nice guy.

I did not feel guilty for being violent. In fact, I was mad at myself for not hurting him worse,

and not immediately throwing the guitar down. What I learned was (1) if you are more aggressive people become less

aggressive and less immediately dangerous (2) if you are going to fight, you need to plan to really hurt someone and

keep the pressure on until they are incapacitated or you can otherwise make everything safe. (3) It really helps to

have heavy-bag training, so you can judge how hard to hit someone, and how much to extend your blows -- it was much

easier than I expected for that reason, not having had much full contact experience. I hadn't been in a fight since

I was a kid. (4) If you can avoid a fight, avoid it. I could have been hurt badly had he connected with the chair.

[belgareth]

I did not

feel guilty for being violent. In fact, I was mad at myself for not hurting him worse, and not immediately throwing

the guitar down. What I learned was (1) if you are more aggressive people become less aggressive and less

immediately dangerous (2) if you are going to fight, you need to plan to really hurt someone and keep the pressure

on until they are incapacitated or you can otherwise make everything safe. (3) It really helps to have heavy-bag

training, so you can judge how hard to hit someone, and how much to extend your blows -- it was much easier than I

expected for that reason, not having had much full contact experience. I hadn't been in a fight since I was a kid.

(4) If you can avoid a fight, avoid it. I could have been hurt badly had he connected with the chair.
Doc,



You're begining to sound like me. You've been reading to many of my posts.

Rule no. 1: Unless you intend

to hurt somebody, don't swing. Run instead.
Rule no. 2: Know how and where to hit for the most effect. The use

that knowledge. As my earliest teachers explained, a man has a tough time attacking you after you've broken his

knee.
Rule no. 3: There ain't no such thing as a fair fight. If you want to follow rules make sure your health

insurance is paid.

I'm glad it turned out well for you but suggest you get some mat time so you have the

experience to deal with most situations of that sort.

[Gegogi]

"Shortly thereafter, four

squad cars showed up. He threatened to kill police, and was arrested."
Sheesh he was lucky the Portland

PD didn't blow him away! They've earned a bit of a national reputation the last few years. I'm glad you and your

guitar survived fully intact. Is your hand okay? The last and only fight I got into (with a shitfaced drunk), huh,

over 20 years ago, I couldn't play for about 2 weeks!

[DrSmellThis]

Sheesh he was

lucky the Portland PD didn't blow him away! They've earned a bit of a national reputation the last few years. I'm

glad you and your guitar survived fully intact. Is your hand okay? The last and only fight I got into (with a

shitfaced drunk), huh, over 20 years ago, I couldn't play for about 2 weeks!Thanks for your concern. My

hand was unscathed because I used the meaty part of my fist and hit his nose, which was softer than, say, a

cheekbone. I got lucky there. What was really irrational was that my instinct to protect the Martin was almost

greater than the one to protect myself.

[DrSmellThis]

Doc,



You're begining to sound like me. You've been reading to many of my posts.

Rule no. 1: Unless you intend to

hurt somebody, don't swing. Run instead.
Rule no. 2: Know how and where to hit for the most effect. The use that

knowledge. As my earliest teachers explained, a man has a tough time attacking you after you've broken his

knee.
Rule no. 3: There ain't no such thing as a fair fight. If you want to follow rules make sure your health

insurance is paid.

I'm glad it turned out well for you but suggest you get some mat time so you have the

experience to deal with most situations of that sort.You're right about mat time. Dealing with the chair

was my biggest concern, though! Ultimately, my best move was to be in a place where people knew me.

[belgareth]

You're

right about mat time. Dealing with the chair was my biggest concern, though! Ultimately, my best move was to be in a

place where people knew me.
Something like a chair is a lot easier than it seems. The most effecitve

method, which I think you used without knowing it, is to get too close for them to swing effectively. Then their

hands are tied up with a useless weapon while you are free to fight.

[Holmes]

Friday night I

was playing music at a pub when some drunk guy came to my girlfrind's table, sat down next to her, put his hand on

her thigh, and started spewing pickup talk. I stopped playing, told him that was my girlfriend, and my seat next to

her. He then began tapping the back of my guitar. He said "you have a cute girlfriend, and wrapped his arm around

her. She didn't like it, but is very small, and was too intimidated to do anything. I stood up and told him to take

his F---ing hand off. He picked up a metal chair and prepared to swing it at my head. Someone grabbed the chair, but

he then lunged toward me. He was bigger than me, and beyond the point of insanity. I quickly considered side-kicking

him in the stomach (which would have thrown him backwards), but decided to let him get closer so I could have more

control over him, in case he wanted to get other weapons. Still carrying an expensive Martin guitar (yes, I'm an

idiot), I hit him twice in the face pretty hard with my free hand, injuring his nose; and he bent over. People were

able to push him out of the back door as I was sitting my guitar down, before I could hit him again.



There you go. How might things have turned out if you hadn't been able to "get mean" when

absolutely necessary?

Very glad that you, your girlfriend, and your Martin emerged unscathed, btw!

[DrSmellThis]

There you go.

How might things have turned out if you hadn't been able to "get mean" when absolutely necessary?

Very glad that

you, your girlfriend, and your Martin emerged unscathed, btw!Thanks, Holmes! That is indeed the important

part. You do go quickly through a decision process, where you go, "OK, it's clear this is necessary."

Then you

must do it. That's where the advice of people like Belgareth becomes important, regarding not messing

around. Even if you don't whip the person, effective resistance of any quantity can slow the person down enough to

enable help to arrive, discourage them, or even enable you to run. So you just do the best you can. Obviously,

training helps, because at least part of it is second nature, and you know you have some good techniques. So I know

for a fact his face hurt afterwards, because it was a couple good, solid backfists, where everything happened the

way it should technically. Not to be macho.

But now I have to worry about this guy coming back to the bar next

week. Violence is never a good thing, in terms of the situation being good afterward. But it can make a bad

situation less potentially bad, if that makes sense.

[belgareth]

You do go

quickly through a decision process, where you go, "OK, it's clear this is necessary."

Then you must do

it. That's where the advice of people like Belgareth becomes important, regarding not messing around. Even if you

don't whip the person, effective resistance of any quantity can slow the person down enough to enable help to

arrive, discourage them, or even enable you to run. So you just do the best you can. Obviously, training helps,

because at least part of it is second nature, and you know you have some good techniques. I know for a fact his face

hurt afterwards.
The idea behind my advice is to avoid getting yourself hurt. Your best chance at that is

to fight 'Dirty'. You never let the other person swing first if you can avoid it and you always do whatever damage

you can as fast as you can. Believe it or not, giving the other person a broken nose or bruised testicles can be far

less damage than what he, and you, might get if you allowed it to become a real fight. Never hesitate and never

warn, act.





But now I have to worry about this guy coming back to the bar next week.

Violence is never a good thing, in terms of the situation being ood afterward. But it can make a bad situation less

potentially bad, if that makes sense.
The single best thing is to always avoid a fight whenever possible.

In you case it wasn't possible and you did the best you knew how. However, in the knowledge that this guy is going

to start a fight and given the choice, my first instinct is to show the whole world just how fast a frightened

coward can run. That's the best alternative whenever you can get away with it. My bruised ego is much better than

my broken bones.

[Watcher]

hmmm well one would hope he doesnt

return. Do they have effective security - ill be almost certain to say a) he will turn up and good luck b) he wont

ever come back due to ego - police (appreheneded violence order (AVO) basically to keep him away from u if u can get

his name might be a good idea - he has a police record u have witnesses to say he attacked u previously could be

worth a look

[gamecity]

I've been

involved in martial arts for about 30 years in one form or another. We are taught how to avoid being put into a

position of grappling and how to deal with it if we are. You may be correct about boxing, I don't know a thing

about it, but any properly trained fighter in the martial arts knows how to handle that effectively.




The boxer doesn't have training on how to avoid being tackled, grappled or wrestled. So the ground

fighter will win against the boxer if he takes him to the ground.

[belgareth]

The boxer

doesn't have training on how to avoid being tackled, grappled or wrestled. So the ground fighter will win against

the boxer if he takes him to the ground.

As I said "A properly trained fighter". A boxer is somebody

taught to do something very specific in a controlled setting, the boxing ring. That isn't a poperly trained

fighter. If somebody is dumb enough to try to use that skill set in the 'no holds barred' setting of a street

fight, they get what they deserve.