View Full Version : Alpha 314 feedback and discussion thread
Watcher
04-24-2005, 01:37 PM
May as well start a thread now on this new product - keep it in one place and all as feedbacks start to come
in.
Well folks youre thoughts and experiences with this product - people in the next few days should start
getting their orders so here goes.
The mods might want to make this a sticky thread for a week or so or 2
weeks just so it gets attention - then let it go into the wild - hapy hunting folks
Bigman808
04-24-2005, 02:05 PM
I think that, as a mainly
-rone product, this ought to be interesting to try out. As has been discussed in many threads and in the Reference
Library ( :box: cptkipling), -rone is a pheromone that can, among other things, enhance the effectiveness of other
'mones and act as a -none imitator. One thing I've noticed about androsterone is that it eliminates the aggressive
edge that comes with androstenone. (sheesh, all these 'mone names rhyme! :frustrate )
As such, it should be fun
to find out what goes well with this product. As Bruce said, the product has very little (if any) smell to it. Just
off the top of my head, PF seems to match that description. From what I read, PF is rumored to have -nol, as well as
a very nice scent. Also, Pheros comes to mind. However, depending on the smell of aA314, Pheros might not be such a
good choice (wouldn't want to eliminate that great smell). Just a few ideas before actual experimentation.
May as well start a
thread now on this new product - keep it in one place and all as feedbacks start to come in.
Well folks youre
thoughts and experiences with this product - people in the next few days should start getting their orders so here
goes.
The mods might want to make this a sticky thread for a week or so or 2 weeks just so it gets attention -
then let it go into the wild - hapy hunting folks
I agree. Although with the attention this product has
been getting it may not NEED to be a sticky. I am certainly looking forward to giving this product a try, and there
is also the matter of the "bonus" vial product that could almost use a separate thread...
:thumbsup:
Icehawk
04-24-2005, 08:18 PM
Yes it would be 'VERY' nice to
know at least whats in the experimental vial. At least we sould be able to give a name to it. Way 2 many items these
days are secretive, that it's getting hard to keep track of whats what. I mean for all i know Realm, NPA, A314 and
C7 have the same 'secrets' in them but with all the hype around anonymity these days no one knows....
Watcher
04-25-2005, 03:42 AM
Secret ingredients give them some
limited aura of unknown - but realm i guess was avoided by many because the secret mone types no one knew and
therefore some didnt trust em - if the products work then all well and good like NPA no one is going to argue if it
does the trick but if its an undisclosed amount or type that does diddly squat people will get upset quick smart -
at least they acknowledge its got the 3 main oens with 80% arone and Beta anol so just waiting on some users to post
how it goes for em.
Since I haven't been around lately I
read this is the new and improved Alpha 314, was there an original one and was this beta tested?
tim929
04-25-2005, 11:13 AM
think that, as a mainly
-rone product, this ought to be interesting to try out. As has been discussed in many threads and in the Reference
Library ( :box: cptkipling), -rone is a pheromone that can, among other things, enhance the effectiveness of other
'mones and act as a -none imitator. One thing I've noticed about androsterone is that it eliminates the aggressive
edge that comes with androstenone. (sheesh, all these 'mone names rhyme! :frustrate ) I think the names all
rhyme so that doctors can make up songs and lymrics about pheromones when they are bored. Im sure the folks at the
CDC do it all the time with the names of plagues.:lol:
Bigman808
04-25-2005, 12:59 PM
Since I haven't
been around lately I read this is the new and improved Alpha 314, was there an original one and was this beta
tested?
I'm pretty sure that only DST tested the old version of the product; many people were afraid to
buy from the site that offered it, as they had a habit of not delivering their products to those who purchased
them...I'm also pretty sure that there was no beta tester of aA314, but I could be wrong.
Icehawk
04-25-2005, 06:57 PM
I'm pretty
sure that only DST tested the old version of the product; many people were afraid to buy from the site that offered
it, as they had a habit of not delivering their products to those who purchased them...I'm also pretty sure that
there was no beta tester of aA314, but I could be wrong.
I dont know, Bjf seems to know a little 2
much...:blink:http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showpost.php?p=159916&postcount=121
Holmes
04-25-2005, 07:08 PM
I dont know, Bjf
seems to know a little 2
much...:blink:http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showpost.php?p=159916&postcount=121
Whack him.
And make it look like an accident.
A314 has been on the market, for
what, at least a year?
For obvious reasons, people didn't want to order from the previous distributor but
there were plenty of love scent shoppers who actually got it. I know Einstein (the forum member) was a big
fan.
It is a good product. Consumer satisfaction is predictated on consumer expectations. Sometimes the
expectations exceed the intention of a product, so it is best people know what it is designed to be.
High
none levels aren't appropriate all the time. This is a good replacement, ie for work.
Oh yea, I never used
the new stuff, just the old. It wasn't until I used the old stuff around people whose behavior around me I knew
very well that I saw a difference. Increased respect.
Icehawk
04-25-2005, 07:56 PM
ok, ok, ok I know what you're
thinking... it needs some NPA. Don't worry, that will be the first thing I'll do :)
Visionary7903
04-25-2005, 09:53 PM
BJF thanks for sharing the
info about the old Alpha A314 but from the blurb on the new version to be sold at Love-Scent it says that it is a
much IMPROVED product. I mean it does not make sense to me that a High-Rone product would give you sexual hits but
from what I have read and my experience with the Chemistry Set Rone it would give you:
- increases in attention
from others,
- a 'fatherliness' alpha aura which gives you none of the negative effects of Anone such as
appearing too aggressive or intimidating young girls and betas in general (however without the sexual hits that you
get from Anone-rich products)
- a slight increase in respect although nowhere near as powerfull as that of an Anone
product
- also Rone seems to be good for giving a mix a charismatic kind of effect and seems to, at low dosages
enhance the hits you get from other pheromones
- it also seems to make other people stay away from ur territory
[not completely sure on this and this may be just a consequence of ODing on Rone as you get treated as invisible and
people stay away without really negative reactions otherwise].
However I would not just put Alpha A314 as a
non-sexual product until we get some field testing done. I mean as I said Rone can enhance the effects of other
mones...
Visionary
metropolitan
04-25-2005, 10:54 PM
thank you visionary,
that's the type of detailed observations that help a lot.
Watcher
04-26-2005, 03:53 AM
actually its a "vastly improved
product" which means the company making it has realised to get attention at LS they need to provide a "real"
pheromone product with solid concentrations of Androgens - which means making it a pheromone product and not a
perfume product with minimal concentrations of androgens.
Phatman
04-26-2005, 04:13 AM
cant wait for it to come out
jeez 8 pheromones!
BJF thanks for
sharing the info about the old Alpha A314 but from the blurb on the new version to be sold at Love-Scent it says
that it is a much IMPROVED product. I mean it does not make sense to me that a High-Rone product would give you
sexual hits but from what I have read and my experience with the Chemistry Set Rone it would give you:
-
increases in attention from others,
- a 'fatherliness' alpha aura which gives you none of the negative effects
of Anone such as appearing too aggressive or intimidating young girls and betas in general (however without the
sexual hits that you get from Anone-rich products)
- a slight increase in respect although nowhere near as
powerfull as that of an Anone product
- also Rone seems to be good for giving a mix a charismatic kind of effect
and seems to, at low dosages enhance the hits you get from other pheromones
- it also seems to make other people
stay away from ur territory [not completely sure on this and this may be just a consequence of ODing on Rone as you
get treated as invisible and people stay away without really negative reactions otherwise].
However I would
not just put Alpha A314 as a non-sexual product until we get some field testing done. I mean as I said Rone can
enhance the effects of other mones...
Visionary
I hope people aren't interpreting what I say
in terms of it being non-sexual. I wouldn't say that. It makes you seem more like the husband than one night
stand type. Husbands and wifes do have sex.
As for your other assements about rone, they are what I think
this product offers, although I'm not sure about the territory thing with a314. Since it does have other mones in
there, I think maybe it buffers this, but in any case, I am sure an OD would have people staying away from you.
Rone is a masculine pheromone after all. It gets me a little bit irratable. It is still different than none,
though.
surfs_up
10-17-2005, 09:06 PM
experience shows that the alpha-beta toggle can have significant effects...
A314 has one rather interesting result... it seems to enhance or allow more vivid fantasy... sort of a dream
intensifier
Le Sillage
10-18-2005, 02:46 AM
Found this
information on some weird website that ranks abunch of phermone products<Link deleted>
That's out of
date. So far, our formulas are optimized each and every production run.
Le Sillage
10-18-2005, 02:51 AM
experience
shows that the alpha-beta toggle can have significant effects...
A314 has one rather interesting result... it
seems to enhance or allow more vivid fantasy... sort of a dream intensifier
The minty one?
How many
drops did you use, where, and how close to sleep?
surfs_up
10-18-2005, 04:15 AM
maybe my nose isn't translating it as minty... nothing mentholic about it.... it does burn slightly
when I put some on my upper lip under my nose... it has an interesting "kerosine" scent that reminds me of guys who
have been working all day... recognizably male, not skanky... exudes an older guy, nothin' to prove vibe,
stable.... unhurried
Le Sillage
10-18-2005, 05:36 AM
maybe my nose
isn't translating it as minty... nothing mentholic about it.... it does burn slightly when I put some on my upper
lip under my nose... it has an interesting "kerosine" scent that reminds me of guys who have been working all day...
You bought this from love-scent, right? Recently?
recognizably male, not
skanky... exudes an older guy, nothin' to prove vibe, stable.... unhurried
You really hit the nose on
the head every time.
I'd really love it if you posted your perception enhancement methods sometime.
Give a
seminar or something ("take my money, please!"). :)
WxCloud9xW
10-18-2005, 07:28 AM
Le Sillage, do you know if
Androstedienone(A1) is in the AA314 mix? It has 8 pheromones I mean that gives it a good chance to be in there.
Le Sillage
10-18-2005, 08:12 AM
Le Sillage,
do you know if Androstedienone(A1) is in the AA314 mix? It has 8 pheromones I mean that gives it a good chance to be
in there.
I was misinformed back when I told Bruce it had 8.
The LS version has 9.
The whole
description isn't correct, overall.
To answer your question, I'm told it has something similar in function to
A1, that does not violate that patent.
A314 is a toughie in many ways, because some of the pheromones are
odorous, so a small amount of EO was added to cover THAT. The product also works better with EOs (all pheromone
products do). In addition to that, I understand that one of the pheromones required EOs to be added as a denaturing
agent so the product could fully qualify legally as a cosmetic, and not something you could drink for other
purposes.
The addition of the EOs, though, makes it hard to include A1 due to the way the patent is written,
otherwise we wanted to include some.
A series of tricky catch-22s to wade through.
jollysnowdevil
10-18-2005, 09:55 AM
quick question what are
EOs? i know ive seen that before im just drawing a blank.
interesting, it sounds to me like a314 has kinda a
form of a1 in it. something maybe a few molecules away from a1 structure. maybe a precursor.
Mtnjim
10-18-2005, 10:01 AM
maybe my nose
isn't translating it as minty... nothing mentholic about it.... it does burn slightly when I put some on my upper
lip under my nose... it has an interesting "kerosine" scent that reminds me of guys who have been working all day...
recognizably male, not skanky... exudes an older guy, nothin' to prove vibe, stable.... unhurried
Sorry,
she didn't say "minty" she said "mitty" as in Walter
Mitty (http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/6821/thurber.html), in answer to your mention of dreams. (you didn't read it in High School?)
EO usually is an abbreviation for
Essential Oil(s). As in perfumes and aromatherapy.
The "old man" scent that I've detected in some of the
products like AE and a314 remind me of camphor (Cinnamomum camphora). I recall both a grandfather and my father had
bottles of it long ago and I think they used it like an aftershave (reputed to be useful for blisters or other skin
irritations, say from blade shaving). Conjures up a "mature man/fatherly figure" type image in my
imagination/memory.
surfs_up
10-18-2005, 12:05 PM
FWIW.... I have been tinkering in the nose lab for a while, tweaking up my perfect
fragrance for me.... easier said than done... almost everything the market has is essentially generic, even it is
expensive, has nice packaging... it won't fit you any better than an off the rack suit will, once you've had a
full bench made custom suit you know the difference...
So in goes some Farmacia Santa Maria Novella, some
Lorenzo Villoresi, other eye of newt and such, put it on, check it against my self image, as a mature adult, can I
take myself seriously if other mature adults smell it... coming off like a pine cone or a modified version of
designer Lysol, or worse, like a big Hershey Bar (yup.... the chocolate colognes...) is just annoying and
ridiculous.... it is difficult, high art really to craft a work that is so believable, consistent with your image,
and interesting to people who usually aren't interested fragrances (given the state of the industry, cranking out
boatloads of evil smelling monkey piss and calling it ambrosia, colognes now = clueless young humpsters on the prowl
and that's about it) that it's a small wonder when it happens... like seeing a really great work of art after
looking at cheap posters all day...
Frequently, when you get the four directions or the five elements or the
seven prophecies all in balance, the addition of a pheromone, in all its aromatic glory, blends in and works fine,
it completes rather than competes... there is a harmony of perception and effect... but we're talking art here...
and good relationships, good conversation, good sex are an art form...
Le Sillage
10-18-2005, 01:26 PM
FWIW.... I
have been tinkering in the nose lab for a while, tweaking up my perfect fragrance for me.... easier said than
done... almost everything the market has is essentially generic, even it is expensive, has nice packaging... it
won't fit you any better than an off the rack suit will, once you've had a full bench made custom suit you know
the difference...
So in goes some Farmacia Santa Maria Novella, some Lorenzo Villoresi, other eye of newt and
such, put it on, check it against my self image, as a mature adult, can I take myself seriously if other mature
adults smell it... coming off like a pine cone or a modified version of designer Lysol, or worse, like a big Hershey
Bar (yup.... the chocolate colognes...) is just annoying and ridiculous.... it is difficult, high art really to
craft a work that is so believable, consistent with your image, and interesting to people who usually aren't
interested fragrances (given the state of the industry, cranking out boatloads of evil smelling monkey piss and
calling it ambrosia, colognes now = clueless young humpsters on the prowl and that's about it) that it's a small
wonder when it happens... like seeing a really great work of art after looking at cheap posters all day...
Frequently, when you get the four directions or the five elements or the seven prophecies all in balance, the
addition of a pheromone, in all its aromatic glory, blends in and works fine, it completes rather than competes...
there is a harmony of perception and effect... but we're talking art here... and good relationships, good
conversation, good sex are an art form...
Gaius, you seem profoundly perceptive in a way that has
nothing to do with scent, though. It's has a lot to do with everything. That's what I'm talking about.
You
seem to pick up on a lot of everything I and most people wouldn't even start to notice.
Where'd you get that
from? More importantly, how can I get some? :)
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