Happiness

[wood elf]

This may be the wrong place

to write about this but I wish to share something wonderful with the ladies here, and the others as well.

It is

plain how I feel about Belgareth, I hope. He is a fine man, the best. Most of you also know I am in the US on a

student VISA. On Monday the university provided the written offer for me to be hired as a researcher/associate

professor when I graduate in a few months. My job will allow me to request permenent resident status in this country

and later to become a citizen.

Belgareth has been having trouble with his former wife recently, I think her

broom may be giving her splinters in an incomfortable place. I thought that was why he visited his attorney twice

this week.

Tonight Belgareth made us a wonderful supper, he is an exquisite cook. During desert he offered me

the completed papers to submit to the government so I may stay here. After I thanked him and promised to have the

papers submitted right away he offered me an engagement ring. It is a pretty ring and was a big surprise. He had it

designed and made himself. The sneak planned this for weeks!

The poor man was so funny. He is always so sure of

himself. Tonight he was like a little boy, afraid I would tell him no. It made me giggle to see him that way for the

first time. He is sleeping now, I made certain he was most relaxed. I am too excited to sleep. It is still too early

to telephone my parents and my friends here will all be in bed. You are the first to be told the news.

We have

not picked a date yet. Both of us are fond of the outdoors and would like to wait until the fall when the leaves are

turning. A wedding under the oaks would be nice. It is a slow time for his business was well and we would be able to

take some time for ourselves.

It is the finest graduation gift I could have asked for.

[Gegogi]

Well I'm not a woman, but I

wanted to say congratulations! The total package: new marriage, degree, job, country--the works. You're extremely

fortunate to reach so many major milestones at once. Most folks are lucky to reach one milestone at a time. It's

like winning 4 gold metals. I'm sure you worked very hard to earn your graduate degree and job (incidentally,

starting at associate professor instead of assistant is impressive). But still, it's the ultimate blessing and a

good omen of things to come.

[belgareth]

Thanks Gegogi. She is smart and

has worked hard, but had the advantage of her field being very new so the competition for positions was light. Her

advisor has worked closely with her on her research and pushed pretty hard in her favor. The school is trying to

build a rep in that area and needs good workers and profs. The other things were all kind of interdependent. It's a

long story I'm not going to get into.

[NaughtieGirl]

Oh Elf, that is sooo

exciting!!! You must have called your family by now. It will be bitter-sweet for them. You'll have to call them

alot! I used to call with 1010987 which gave me 3.5 c/min but .70c for the first minute. Now I'm using 1-800-999

5090 it's 3c/min all around. At those rates I call my parents pretty much every other day!

Fall foliage. How

about the White mountains of NH? The maple trees make for gorgeous colors! You guys could go to Squam Lake. That's

were that movie was shot. --- On Golden Pond. If you haven't seen it, do rent it, it's worth watching. Oh and now

that I'm on the subject of movies. Did you see "The NoteBook". Oh dear - get your tissues ready! What a love story!

I cried 7 or 8 times during that one!

I'm really curious now as to what field you are in. If you feel

uncomfortable talking about it here, maybe you could pm me? Anyway... I'm rambling on.... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: That's 4 of them!

[wood elf]

Hi Naughty:

Yes, I

telephoned my parents early today. My father likes Belgareth and was hoping we would marry. My mother, as mothers

the world round do, is worried but happy. They will be here for the wedding. You would be required to tie my father

down to stop him from seeing his baby married. That was another reason to wait for fall. They will have time to

obtain VISAs and make arrangements.

Belgareth suggested West Virginia. He has made trips there for the fall

colors in the past. I have not seen either place but will learn more about the Squam Lake. Thank you for the

sugggestion.

With my research, teaching and adventures with Belgareth I have not seen many movies the past two

years. We will see it soon, I hope.

Our phone service is unique because Belgareth has his business in the house

and needs more capacity than DSL can provide. We have what is called a split T-1 line and through some magic with

that we can call almost anywhere for very little cost. Though I cannot imagine him begrudging me any expense within

reason. His generosity and support has made these last two years much the easiest of all my school years.

Thank

you.

W. Elf

[InACharmedLife]

CONGRATULATIONS!!
What

wonderful news!
Very best wishes and every happiness to you both!

[belgareth]

Yes, I

telephoned my parents early today.
W. Elf
:rofl: She called her parents and another third of Ireland as

well. Then she started e-mailing. I had to arm wrestle her to get my computer back so I could get some work

done.:frustrate

I'm sure she'll be back later. I have to be out in the field much of the day and she has a

light schedule today.

[silksand]

That is such wonderful news!

You are both wonderful people and I'm sure you will make lots of happiness together! Congratulations and blessings

on you both.

[MOBLEYC57]

All I want to know is ...

whatever you put in Bel's drink/food, are you planning to continue putting it in there fer the rest of your natural

born elf life!? :blink:

If the answer to that is yes ... then, may God keep the both of you in a firm grip, in

the same hand. :thumbsup:

If the answer to that is no ... you leave me no choice elf voman ... :trout:

She

did it while you were sleep, Bel! :box: bel, make sure you get a full body massage with those little elf's hands at

least once a month!:whip: And for God's sakes! Don't let her bully you! :twisted:

God's shield. :angel: :wub:

:thumbsup::wub: :angel:

[Holmes]

Now that sounds like true

happiness! You guys have something wonderful. My heartfelt congratulations and best wishes to you both.

[CptKipling]

Congratulations!

You are

both wonderful people and deserve every happiness.

[DrSmellThis]

Well, isn't this wonderful

news?!?!

I liked Gegogi's take on things. All those things coming together suggest to me you all are on the

right path, and are blessed (sorry for the spiritual term, you agnostics you).

Congratulations to the both of

you! Congrats are also in order to wood elf for the tenure track position. This is quite an accomplishment for not

having even graduated yet, and certainly shows her to be talented, hard working and well liked! Maybe another Irish

emigrant song is in the works?

May the coming months and years be even happier, and may your happiness be

contagious!

[wood elf]

Thank you all, this is a

wonderful day for me. I have wanted to see this happen for over a year. All my friends and co-workers at school are

pleased for us too.

Gegogi:
Yes, it was a big surprise to me as well. I work hard and get good grades and my

desertation was well recieved but only hoped to earn a position in the laboratory. The university's offer astounded

me.

Mr. Mobley:
You are so mean to me. It was Belgareth not me who cast a spell. What else would cause a young

woman to wish to marry a grumpy old man? He sleeps so little most of the time that I could never do anything like

that to him.

I understand how you meant your words. Thank you.

DrSmellThis:
I am Catholic and appreciate

your blessing. Belgareth has his religion too. He does not talk about it because most do not understand him. He

tires of explaining himself here in the south.

Your congratulations are warming, all of you. Mine and

Belgareth's heartfelt thanks.

W. Elf

[culturalblonde]

CONGRATULATIONS, Wood Elf

and Belgrath! What wonderful news, thank you for sharing it with us.

For a few years, I would come here and

only read the posts. I must say that Belgrath's post had a lot of respect and morals. By reading his posts, I

could tell he had a kind heart. I hope you both will always be as happy as you are now.

Here is a bumper

sticker I read recently and want to pass it on it you:

"Loved the wedding. Invite me to the marriage!" -

"God."

Many blessings to the both of you!

[wood elf]

Thank you, Culturalblonde:



He is a good man with a tremendous heart. Even my father admits to not ever meeting a man like him before. He was

overjoyed when I telephoned to tell the news. I worried for a year that he would never decide to marry me. I am now

as happy as I have ever been.

That is a good thought, the bumper sticker. Thank you for that as well.

W.

Elf.

[satyrboy]

Congrats! A lot of negativity

exists about marriage these days. Speaking as a married guy though, there's nothing better! Everyday I come home

to my little family(wife, daughter, puppy and cat) and can't think of anything better. Being single and playing

around was fun, but building a family and having the trust, friendship and love of someone truly special to you is

as good as things can be.

[Pancho1188]

Congrats! I would've said

something yesterday, but I was blind. Sorry about that. ;) That said, *whisper* I already knew... :thumbsup:

[SweetBrenda]

Whoa!! what a

great news!! Congrats Bel and W.Elf I wish you both all the happiness in the World.:kiss:



This is the 2nd engagement in the forum that I know of:wub:

..
I guess the mones are pretty effective? :lovestruc *grin*:thumbsup:



My Wedding date is Nov the 12th of this Year.
I'm very excited

getting things ready. Lyndsey is one of my flower girls and her dress is darling.

Once

again congrats and keep us post it when's the big date!:lovestruc
:cheers:


Hugs
Brenda

[Pancho1188]

Whoa!! what a great news!! Congrats Bel and W.Elf I wish you both

all the happiness in the World.:kiss:

This is the 2nd engagement in

the forum that I know of:wub: ..
I guess the mones are pretty effective? :lovestruc

*grin*:thumbsup:

My Wedding date is Nov the 12th of this Year.


I'm very excited getting things ready. Lyndsey is one of my flower girls and her dress is

darling.

Once again congrats and keep us post it when's the big date!:lovestruc


:cheers:
Hugs
Brenda
Yes, I am a very lucky

guy... :lovestruc


Oh, wait... :trout:

[wood elf]

Brenda:

Both Belgareth and

I send our congratulations. We wish you every happiness in your future.

We too plan to marry in the fall. Some

funny person here suggested that Halloween might be the right day since I am an elf and he a wolf. It would suit his

sense of humor. I don't think I would like that.

Pancho:

How would you know this news before me? Are you

telling stories? I did not think he told anybody what he was doing.

[SweetBrenda]

We too plan

to marry in the fall. Some funny person here suggested that Halloween might be the right day since I am an elf and

he a wolf. It would suit his sense of humor. I don't think I would like that.LOL Oh My! umm

well that would be some unique wedding let me tell you that! hehehe :POKE: *grin* :lovestruc


I'm sure you guys will have a lovely wedding.
We are looking for

the perfect song for us. He made his list of five songs and so did I and we both have to agree on one. The trouble

here is that he is into Country and I am not! LOL
The first time we went on a date we were

singing "Nobody" by Keith Sweat.

We were laughing because I added that song to my list

and he said my folks and yours are going to be there, you realize that right? :hammer:
here

are the lyrics:

I want to tease you
I want to please you
I want to show you baby
That

I need you

I want your body
'Till the very last drop
I want you to holler
When you want me to stop

And

who can love you like me (nobody)
Who can sex you like me (nobody)
Who can treat you like me now, baby

(nobody)
Nobody, baby (nobody)
And who can do it like me (nobody)
And who can give you what you need

(nobody)
Who can do you all night long (nobody)
Nobody, baby (nobody)

[Athena]
I want the night
For me and

you
So come here baby
And let me do it to you

Don't be afraid
'Cuz I won't bite
I promise to give it to

you
Just the way you like

And who can love you like me (nobody)
Who can sex you like me (nobody)
Who can lay

your body down (nobody)
Nobody, baby (nobody)
And who can treat you like me (nobody)
Who can give you what you

need (nobody)
And who can do you all night long (nobody)
Nobody, baby (nobody)
And the band keeps playing on



[Both]
On, on, on, and on, on
On, on, on, and on, on
On, on, on, and on, on
Nobody, baby
On, on, on, and on,

on
On, on, on, and on, on
On, on, on, and on, on
Nobody baby

I want you right now for my lover
Oh yes I

do
Place no one above you
Oh yes I do
If you need love
I'll be right
I'll be right there, baby
Oh yes I

will
Oh yes I will baby
Oh yes I will baby

And who will love you like me (nobody)
Who can sex your body like

me baby (nobody)
Who can do it like me, baby (nobody)
No, no, no (nobody)
Who can lay you down just like me

(nobody)
Who can kiss you all over your body, baby (nobody)
And lib till fade

:blink: I

get his point but the way I see it is who cares? this is our wedding this is our special moment and I don't think

anyone there will take our song offensive everyone likes sex! lol ... And his Country list doesn't convince me but

there's one that I might go for.
by:Ronan Keating

It's amazing how

you can speak right to my heart
Without saying a word, you can light up the dark
Try as I may I could never

explain
What I hear when you don't say a thing

The smile on your face lets me know that you need me
There's

a truth in your eyes saying you'll never leave me
The touch of your hand says you'll catch me whenever I

fall
You say it best.. when you say nothing at all

All day long I can hear people talking out loud
But when

you hold me near, you drown out the crowd (the crowd)
Try as they may they can never define
What's been said

between your heart and mine

The smile on your face lets me know that you need me
There's a truth in your eyes

saying you'll never leave me
The touch of your hand says you'll catch me whenever I fall
You say it best.. when

you say nothing at all

The smile on your face lets me know that you need me
There's a truth in your eyes

saying you'll never leave me
The touch of your hand says you'll catch me whenever I fall
You say it best.. when

you say nothing at all

(You say it best when you say nothing at all
You say it best when you say nothing at

all..)

The smile on your face
The truth in your eyes
The touch of your hand
Let's me know that you need

me..

[MOBLEYC57]

Keith's

"Nobody" is full of nice naughties, SweetB, but it doesn't really fit. It could always be the first song once the

day is done, and you're all alone. The best R&B that I've ever heard for that occasion is Luther Vandross' "Here

& Now." If not that, the country & western is more of a match for the occassion, unless, you're determined to have

that sentimental flavor of when you two were singing it, and sniffing each others mones ... IF ya ask me. :blink:



Congrats, and God's Shield, by the way. :cheers:

May you all be blessed by the fish god, too. :trout: *Tuna

of Good Luck*

[Pancho1188]

Brenda,

You totally have

to pick "Nobody"...I can actually sing that like Keith Sweat...I'll totally do it! :) Either that or "Twisted"...



If you want a good mix of R&B and country, "Over and Over" by Nelly ft. Tim McGraw is pretty good.

Although

for you, sweetness, I'd say "Fantasy" by your girl Mariah...Jadakiss ft. Mariah Carey "U Make Me Wanna" would be a

good song to have (although not your song).

I think for your wedding, though, "Hero" by Mariah Carey would be

perfect. I'm not kidding. I know you better than anyone here, and I'm telling you, that's the perfect song for

you. It may be more of a "my song for him" than an "our song", but you totally need to fit that in there.



Although to poke fun at myself, I think you should make it, "Thank God for Unanswered Prayers" by Garth Brooks...

:o

[SweetBrenda]

Brenda,



You totally have to pick "Nobody"...I can actually sing that like Keith Sweat...I'll totally do it! :) Either

that or "Twisted"...

If you want a good mix of R&B and country, "Over and Over" by Nelly ft. Tim McGraw is

pretty good.

Although for you, sweetness, I'd say "Fantasy" by your girl Mariah...Jadakiss ft. Mariah Carey "U

Make Me Wanna" would be a good song to have (although not your song).

I think for your wedding, though, "Hero"

by Mariah Carey would be perfect. I'm not kidding. I know you better than anyone here, and I'm telling you,

that's the perfect song for you. It may be more of a "my song for him" than an "our song", but you totally need to

fit that in there.

Although to poke fun at myself, I think you should make it, "Thank God for Unanswered

Prayers" by Garth Brooks... :oAw Pancho... You got some pretty Good ones *thank you*. I

also like twisted too but we have to find the perfect wedding song and I think I found it. I have been d/l so many

songs and I think I got it!! I can't believe I forgot about this one song ..

by Eric Benet
Spend my

life with you

I never knew such a day could come
And I never knew such a love
Could be inside of

one

And I never knew what my life was for
But now that you're here I know for sure

I never knew till I

looked in your eyes
I was incomplete till the day you walked into my life
And I never knew that my heart could

feel
So precious and pure
One love so real

Can I just see you every morning when
I open my eyes
Can I just

feel your heart beating beside me
Every night
Can we just feel this way together
Till the end of all time
Can I

just spend my life with you

Now baby the days and the weeks
And the years will roll by
But nothing will change

the love inside
Of you and I

And baby I'll never find any words
That could explain
Just how much my heart my

life
My soul you've changed

Can you run to these open arms
When no one else understands
Can we tell God and

the whole world
I'm your woman, and you're my man
Can't you just feel how much I love you
With one touch of my

hand
Can I just spend my life with you

No touch has ever felt so wonderful
(You are incredible)
And a deeper

love I've never known
(I'll never let you go)
I swear this love is true
(Now and forever to youto you)
Can I

just see you every morning when

I open my eyes
Can I just feel your heart beating beside me
Every night
Can

we just feel this way together
Till the end of all time
Can I just spend my life with you
Can you run to these

open arms

When no one else understands
Can we tell God and the whole world
You're my woman, and you're my

man
Can't you just feel how much I love you
With one touch of my hand
Can I just spend my life with you

Can

I just spend my life with you
Can I just spend my life with you
(Forever here with you)
Can I just spend my life

with you
Can I just see you every morning when I
Open my

eyes..
*********************
So what ya'

think???

I think he's going to like it too. We're going to a play tonight and I'm going

to play the CD I just made with a bunch of nice songs and see what he thinks.

Thank you

sweety for adding your two cents to this.
But one of the best gifts you could ever give me

on my wedding day is your presence.
I really hope you made up your mind and be here on my

special day Pancho..
:lovestruc
Brenda

[SweetBrenda]

W. Elf.
Would you like a big

or small wedding? the reason I'm asking you this is because most of us always dream with that beautiful fairy tail

wedding....
But in reality not everyone can affort that type of wedding.

I had a big wedding once. Very

traditional with over 12 bride's made. My marriage lasted less then two years ( I was very young and stupid).
So

all that time and everything else was such a waste of money. I know now that bigger doesn't make it better (wedding

speaking) LOL j/k...
All you really need to have are those who are dear to you, to make that special moment a great

one.

[wood elf]

Brenda:

My religion and

tradition say to have a big wedding. Is it so important? For me, no. I do not need a big wedding to be happy. You

make my case for me. Did your big wedding help your marriage to last? Wedding presents do not matter. We have what

we need. We would be happy with a simple ceremony with only our family and dearest friends. The rest is show for

those who attend, is it not? The truly important part is what comes through the days and years that follow.

[Pancho1188]

Brenda:

My

religion and tradition say to have a big wedding. Is it so important? For me, no. I do not need a big wedding to be

happy. You make my case for me. Did your big wedding help your marriage to last? Wedding presents do not matter. We

have what we need. We would be happy with a simple ceremony with only our family and dearest friends. The rest is

show for those who attend, is it not? The truly important part is what comes through the days and years that

follow.
The wedding is all about the bride and arguably her parents. If she doesn't care, then it really

doesn't matter. I've been the best man and usher at over 3 weddings. One was at a traditional wedding in PA, one

was at a personalized ceremony (personal friends handled the ceremony, music, etc.), and one was in Las Vegas at a

smaller venue inside one of the casinos on the strip (no, it wasn't a midnight last-second thing but a very

carefully planned thing). They were all the same: very special.


As for the "special" wedding songs...that's

all too much sap for me. I'm picking something like "Feelin' on Your Booty" or "The Bad Touch" for a song...

:lol:

[MOBLEYC57]

As for the

"special" wedding songs...that's all too much sap for me. I'm picking something like "Feelin' on Your Booty" or

"The Bad Touch" for a song... :lol:

Allow me, SweetB ... :trout: :trout: :trout:

[wood elf]

The wedding

is all about the bride and arguably her parents. If she doesn't care, then it really doesn't matter. I've been

the best man and usher at over 3 weddings. One was at a traditional wedding in PA, one was at a personalized

ceremony (personal friends handled the ceremony, music, etc.), and one was in Las Vegas at a smaller venue inside

one of the casinos on the strip (no, it wasn't a midnight last-second thing but a very carefully planned thing).

They were all the same: very special.I disagree and would argue that the ceremony is much more for the

parents and guests. It may be my perspective only. Few of my friends wish for a big wedding either. I see it that

the guests deserve or believe they deserve some pagentry for the time and gifts given. Parent wish everybody to see

what a success their child rearing has been. Few women wish to stand in front of many people and listen to another

one preach interminably.

There may be something interesting here. Those I know are mainly independent women

working to achieve high degrees or already have done such. Culteralblond said something about women and self

confidence somewhere. These are women with much self confidence and achieving their goals. It could be our positions

on such matters is different from average?

[Pancho1188]

I disagree and

would argue that the ceremony is much more for the parents and guests. It may be my perspective only. Few of my

friends wish for a big wedding either. I see it that the guests deserve or believe they deserve some pagentry for

the time and gifts given. Parent wish everybody to see what a success their child rearing has been. Few women wish

to stand in front of many people and listen to another one preach interminably.

There may be something

interesting here. Those I know are mainly independent women working to achieve high degrees or already have done

such. Culteralblond said something about women and self confidence somewhere. These are women with much self

confidence and achieving their goals. It could be our positions on such matters is different from average?


I agree with the parents part (just watch The In-Laws, starring Michael Douglas). My best example, though,

is the recent royal marriage of Prince Charles. If it was all about the guests, it would have been a large,

extravagant affair. However, they wanted a smaller, more private affair. Their preference, their rules.



"Weddings are not about the bride and groom."

--- The In-Laws



I have a

very harsh personal view of weddings and large ceremonies in general. I didn't want to attend my graduation

ceremonies, and I probably won't want to attend my own wedding. All of that nonsense for a personal achievement is

stupid. Yeah, I graduated. Big deal. Give me my diploma and let me go home...don't put me in some stupid outfit,

make me sit and listen to people drone on about the importance of it (I know it's important; that's why I got it),

and make me wait in line for an hour to walk up on some podium and take it from some guy I've never spoken to in my

entire life who's supposed to be really important. Then, I open it and see that the diploma isn't even there;

they mail it to you. What a joke. Why the hell am I there? (without outside input, you could see that my personal

view would lead me to believe that it's all for the parents and guests, but I don't believe that for a second

because I know that most people who aren't heartless bastards like me enjoy those things)

The same philosophy

applies to weddings as well. I don't need to hear some guy drone on about the importance of a lifetime commitment.

I hope I know what I'm saying when I put the first ring on her finger. To me, the wedding is just confirmation

that she didn't just say, "Yes," under duress or pressure from saying, "No," in front of a bunch of people or just

to me (whatever the case may be; I've known people who've done that, too). I don't want to get into some goofy

tuxedo and stand for an hour in front of a bunch of people while I wait to put a ring on her finger and

say...again...that I want to be with her for the rest of my life. I say skip the big ceremony and buy your own damn

presents instead. A longer honeymoon, house furnishings, a new entertainment center...whatever. At the risk of

pissing someone off, if this is how I feel about my own ceremonies, imagine how I feel about everyone else's. I'm

happy for you, have a nice life, and be well...but please don't make me sit through this...go consumate your

marriage already and tell me how great it is to be married when you get back. Let me see the rock as evidence of a

marriage, and be on your way. Fantastic. I'm happy for you.




If the ceremony lasts more than 15

minutes, I'll be thinking about what free food I'll be getting later. I can't wait until I blow my wedding when

they ask me to put the ring on her or say my vows or whatever, and I'm staring out into space wondering how great

the food and the sex is going to be later:

-Do you have the ring?
--(Mmmm...six-course meal...hot sex on an

exotic island) What? Oh, yeah... (Oh, shit! I just put thousands of dollars into that thing that's less

than the size of a quarter! My ring cost $50...I'm getting screwed now so I can get screwed later!) With this

ring, I thee wed.

:LOL: (Obviously, the last section was exaggerated :hammer: )

[Sir Louis]

Hi Naughty:



Yes, I telephoned my parents early today. My father likes Belgareth and was hoping we would marry. My mother, as

mothers the world round do, is worried but happy. They will be here for the wedding. You would be required to tie my

father down to stop him from seeing his baby married. That was another reason to wait for fall. They will have time

to obtain VISAs and make arrangements.

Belgareth suggested West Virginia. He has made trips there for the fall

colors in the past. I have not seen either place but will learn more about the Squam Lake. Thank you for the

sugggestion.

With my research, teaching and adventures with Belgareth I have not seen many movies the past two

years. We will see it soon, I hope.

Our phone service is unique because Belgareth has his business in the

house and needs more capacity than DSL can provide. We have what is called a split T-1 line and through some magic

with that we can call almost anywhere for very little cost. Though I cannot imagine him begrudging me any expense

within reason. His generosity and support has made these last two years much the easiest of all my school years.



Thank you.

W. Elf
Best of luck to both of you. As for your mother's worries, I have it on good

suspician he'll stick by you regardless of adversity. :lol:

[Pancho1188]

Belgareth

suggested West Virginia. He has made trips there for the fall colors in the past. I have not seen either place but

will learn more about the Squam Lake. Thank you for the sugggestion.
West Virginia?!?!? Are you two

cousins? :rofl: (As a native Pennsylvanian, I have to take a shot at WV whenever possible)

Seriously, though, if

you're in the area, you should take a trip to the nation's capital and say hi. :cheers:

[belgareth]

Best of luck

to both of you. As for your mother's worries, I have it on good suspician he'll stick by you regardless of

adversity. :lol:
Thank you, Sir Louis. My biggest fear is that when I get somewhat older she'll realize

what a bad deal she made and skip. :rofl: I still haven't figured out why she puts up with me. As most people know,

I'm a grumpy old *%$#@ :)

[belgareth]

West

Virginia?!?!? Are you two cousins? :rofl: (As a native Pennsylvanian, I have to take a shot at WV whenever

possible)

Seriously, though, if you're in the area, you should take a trip to the nation's capital and say hi.

:cheers:
We've been trying to find the time to get up there. She's never seen any of New England. I

prefer this time of the year or the fall, certainly don't want to visit the capitol in the middle of the summer.

There's another forum member who lives in that area I'd really like to meet and spend a few hours with as well.



Neither Wood Elf nor I have any use for ceremony. The commitment is between us and making promises before a

problematical diety is not going to change the commitment we have. Our wedding will be, as she said, for the parents

and guests.

I've been listening to Wood Elf and her friends and I think she may have a point about the women

she knows. One lady made the remark that she didn't understand why we didn't just go to the justice of the peace

and be done with it. Several others agreed with her. I think she'd prefer that if her mother wouldn't have a fit

over it.

[Bruce]

Congratulations you two!

I

didn't find the thread until now. Bel told me the good news on the phone today. He has his head so far up in the

clouds, it was hard to carry on a coherent conversation. :-)

We're all invited, right? :-)

Congrats

again! Looks like a match made in heaven.

Bruce

[belgareth]

Thanks Bruce. But be nice, I

was no more incoherent than any other time. :)

Certainly, everybody is welcome. Everybody wear your best mone

mix. It could be entertaining.

[Pancho1188]

We've been

trying to find the time to get up there. She's never seen any of New England. I prefer this time of the year or the

fall, certainly don't want to visit the capitol in the middle of the summer. There's another forum member who

lives in that area I'd really like to meet and spend a few hours with as well.

Neither Wood Elf nor I have any

use for ceremony. The commitment is between us and making promises before a problematical diety is not going to

change the commitment we have. Our wedding will be, as she said, for the parents and guests.

I've been

listening to Wood Elf and her friends and I think she may have a point about the women she knows. One lady made the

remark that she didn't understand why we didn't just go to the justice of the peace and be done with it. Several

others agreed with her. I think she'd prefer that if her mother wouldn't have a fit over it.
It's nice

and in the 70s here this time of year...

Thanks for the stories, by the way. I find that fascinating (and

helpful because maybe I'll find someone who will save me thousands of dollars and hours of discomfort...there's

hope for me yet!). Wood Elf, do you have any stories or several accounts of these women actually doing it (if I

remember, you spoke of "plans" over actions, but I'm sure you can name a few who have gone through with their

plans)? I'm just curious (and hopeful...then again, I think anyone who I would fall in love with would probably

want a huge wedding knowing my luck).

[wood elf]

Few of my friends have married.

Many of those that have are far from home and family. No friend of mine has had a big wedding here at university.



Do you search for a bride? Women here complain of few men who are willing to date or marry an educated woman. Once

they discover she may be as smart as them or has strong career potential they go away. More than one has complained

that the men she has dated try to show they are smarter. Male ego kills many relationships. Be wary of that and

respect a woman for her abilities. We work as hard as the men, often we work harder. We want respect for what we can

accomplish.

[SitBackNRelax]

I've been away

for a little while.. but Congrats to both of you!! that's just so awesome!:thumbsup:

[SitBackNRelax]

Thanks

Bruce. But be nice, I was no more incoherent than any other time. :)

Certainly, everybody is welcome. Everybody

wear your best mone mix. It could be entertaining.
OMG!! can you imagine that!?!?! beautiful

surroundings.. beautiful mone mixes..! everyone so happy!! it would be a deliciously dangerous spot for anyone!



sounds like fun!!! :thumbsup:


oh.. maybe you guys can give mone mixes as a reception/guest gift.. they

could even put it on at the party..

[NaughtieGirl]

It's

nice and in the 70s here this time of year...

Thanks for the stories, by the way. I find that fascinating (and

helpful because maybe I'll find someone who will save me thousands of dollars and hours of discomfort...there's

hope for me yet!). Wood Elf, do you have any stories or several accounts of these women actually doing it (if I

remember, you spoke of "plans" over actions, but I'm sure you can name a few who have gone through with their

plans)? I'm just curious (and hopeful...then again, I think anyone who I would fall in love with would probably

want a huge wedding knowing my luck).
Well... I think it all depends on whether it's a first wedding or a

second. For a first wedding the parents usually put a lot of pressure on the couple to have a "formal event". If

it's a second wedding here's a good thought - It's oficially called a "destination wedding". Pick a nice spot to

go on your honeymoon to, and then find an all-inclusive hotel/resort that offers weddings. That's what we did.

Tropical island - wedding on the beach - dress as formal or informal as you wish - get out of those clothes and go

have fun! It was sooo stress-free.

There's the plan - now all you have to do is find the bride. Piece of

cake!

[belgareth]

Anybody who believes weddings

are for the bride and groom has never been there or done that. You got it right, Naughty. "The parents put a lot of

pressure on..." Even the gown is going to be a fight. Mother talks about this fancy gown and bride says "Uh, huh.

I'll pick out my dress BY MYSELF!"

Wood Elf isn't interested in a formal event even though this is her first

and was forced to put her foot down with her mother. Or should I say on her mother, such as on her neck? It finally

boiled down to "It's my wedding! We'll do it my way or we'll just go get married without you." I really think

she'd have done it too.

Her idea is maybe a dozen or so people in the woods with a soft flute or harp in the

background. I'm staying out of it. A quiet ceremony is just fine with me.

Oh, Naughty. We checked out Squam

Lake. There's even an inn called "On Golden Pond". Several other small places with cottages too. We have info

coming in the mail. It seems a little far to go from here but we'll see. Thanks for the suggestion.

[Pancho1188]

Thanks for the responses,

guys. :)

You must go out with quality women, Bel. I must hang around "princesses" or something because they all

have their dream weddings planned out already. They've picked out their dresses in most cases even if they don't

have a boyfriend. They let out a dreamy sigh when they hear about others' wedding plans, and they talk about

flowers, musicians, dresses, locations, husbands, bridesmaid dresses...let me make it simple: have you ever seen the

end of Clueless? That's how a lot of the women I know have acted to wedding discussions.

[belgareth]

Pancho,

You should know

better by now than to ask if I've seen a movie or TV show. The last time we went to a movie, other than one we

rented, was when Shreck <sp?> opened. I haven't watched TV since you were starting elementary school and don't

have cable or an antenna. We have far too many other things going to waste time with that. The only reason I have

been here so many evenings lately is that Wood Elf is teaching a night class. Otherwise we would be out doing things

or playing games or something interesting. I'm getting some of my backlogged paperwork done at the same time as

talking here.

You don't really want to hear the disparaging remarks she makes about those women who sigh so

fondly over such things. For her, they are unimportant. The women who come around here almost all hold graduate

degrees in the sciences. They do talk about normal things and giggle together but they don't spend much time on

frippery. Wood Elf rarely even wears make up! I don't think she needs it, she has a nice complexion including the

freckles. But that's another subject.

Ok, I admit that she's and her friends are a bit odd but I prefer them

smart as hell.

[Pancho1188]

Wood Elf

rarely even wears make up!

Now you're speaking my language. If you back out of this, Bel, give her my

number. :lol: (that's supposed to be a compliment to your judgement and her quality---as warped as it may be)

[Pancho1188]

Ok, I admit

that she's and her friends are a bit odd but I prefer them smart as hell.
Who isn't odd? Besides, I

prefer smart and odd over dumb and superficial.

[wood elf]

Now you're

speaking my language. If you back out of this, Bel, give her my number. :lol: (that's supposed to be a compliment

to your judgement and her quality---as warped as it may be)
I am sorry Pancho. You are too young for my

taste. I do not rob cradles :nono: :)

Odd may not be the right term. We have other concerns and interests than

make up and hairstyles. I do things to maintain my appearance but not to the degree that some others do. It seems

pointless to hide my skin under a layer of what is composed of oil, dirt and artificial colors. I do not like my

freckles but others seem to think they are attractive. Who knows why men think the way they do?