What's the recommended dose of NPA combined with Chikara?

[Sigfreed]

Would 2 neck dabs of NPA and 2 Chikara Sprays be enough? In combination of 1 chest spray or

2 of chikara? With that daily dosage of 2 neck dabs a day, typically how long would a bottle of NPA last? And how

big should each dab be?

I don't want to put too much of either one on. Thanks for your help. And what about

showering and sleeping? i asked this before but nobody could tell me. If we put some mones on for a few hours, then

come home and take a shower will the mones be gone? Is it safe to re-apply after the shower? I'm also wondering the

same about sleeping, if we put some mones on before we go out for the evening and come home to sleep, is it safe to

re-apply in the mones the next morning?

Thanks again for your help.

[goodguy]

I've used pheromones

everyday (primarily AE) at one point. Showered daily and saw no buildup effects (ODs). I'm sure if you clean well

enough the trace amounts of pheromones left will go away. All you can really do is try it and see if you notice any

negative effects for you.

[Sigfreed]

GoodGuy so how many dabs of NPA

would you recommend? Well it's good you don't see a build up effect with showers and sleeping, either do I. Thanks

for the reply.

[Watcher]

Use a antibacterial / antimicrobal

soap and it should remove any buildup effect.

Id say perhaps try yuore dosage and if it appears a bit much

drop it back to 2 dabs of NPA and 1 sparay of chikara - i always found it useful to experiment with a wide range of

application areas and amounts and different ratios just for the fun of it. Suggest you do a bit of that as well and

report back to us any differences etc and what yuo use.

[CptKipling]

Try 2-3 dabs of NPA and 2

sprays of C7 total.

[Gegogi]

I spray 'n dab 'till my targets

get horny. 2 dabs 'n 2 sprays do absolutely nothing for me. 4-6 sprays and 4-6 dabs get me obvious attention from

the ladies. If I corner a young one, she fidgets like she needs to pee badly. Older women get very touchy and

willing.

[goodguy]

I use 3 dabs of NPA. One for

both my wrists, and one on each side of my neck. I usually spray 2-3 sprays of chikara on my neck and chest and one

spray for both my wrists.

[Sigfreed]

Thanks all for the advice. I

think I will one dab of NPA for each side of my neck followed by one spray of Chikara for each side of my neck and

one chest spray of Chikara.

Although Bruce recomended for the first few times of NPA that I try one dab of it on

each of my wrists and 3 sprays of Chikara to my neck and see how that goes.

Doesn't the NPA have to be covered

with the Chikara? Or is the important thing that you simply have Chikara on some part of your body to mix with the

NPA?

Thanks again.

[CptKipling]

I'm going to have to pull the

common sense card:

If you stink, cover your NPA.

[joseph956]

If I corner a

young one, she fidgets like she needs to pee badly. Older women get very touchy and willing.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I'm sorry but those are the true words of a legendary player.. preach on brother :box:

I

love having the power to make a woman next to me on the step machine have to get off because her legs are shaking

profusely..

anyway, on the topic I've been using 3 dabs of NPA with my normal cologne (Chanel Platinum) and

have been seeing really good results, more respect from males (pat me on the shoulder and use any excuse to make

conversation with me), and obvious attention from women.. just for reference purposes I dab on each of my wrists and

rub on my chin, back of ears, and then one dab rubbed on my head/hair.

just my 2 cents :wave:

j

[Sigfreed]

joseph956




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I'm sorry but those are the true words of a legendary player.. preach on brother :box:

I love

having the power to make a woman next to me on the step machine have to get off because her legs are shaking

profusely..

anyway, on the topic I've been using 3 dabs of NPA with my normal cologne (Chanel Platinum) and

have been seeing really good results, more respect from males (pat me on the shoulder and use any excuse to make

conversation with me), and obvious attention from women.. just for reference purposes I dab on each of my wrists and

rub on my chin, back of ears, and then one dab rubbed on my head/hair.

just my 2 cents :wave:
So NPA

really is that powerful on both sexes? Women will become that aroused being around you especially if you're already

good looking/well dressed? And males will want to "hang with ya"? LOL.

I'm really looking forward to using

this, it should arrive next week by the end of next week.

CptKipling


I'm going to have to pull the

common sense card:

If you stink, cover your NPA.
LOL agreed.

I think I will start with one dab of

NPA to each side of my neck or on each of my wrist and then 2-3 sprays of Chikara.

My big question is does the

Chikara have to be sprayed directly over top of the NPA to work properly? Thanks

[CptKipling]

My big question is does

the Chikara have to be sprayed directly over top of the NPA to work properly? Thanks
Nope, but if you

leave your NPA completely uncovered it will stink, so either cover it with C7 or cologne.

[Sigfreed]

CptKipling


Nope, but

if you leave your NPA completely uncovered it will stink, so either cover it with C7 or cologne.


Well I will probably just cover it with the Chikara as I don't want to mix regular cologne and chikara with the

NPA. Thanks for the tip.

[Skyy]

Which chikara are you using? The

newest one?

[Gegogi]

I prefer mixing NPA and A-1 with

my fav cologne (Burberry Weekend) in an atomizer. Thus I'm good to go with a few bursts and don't have to worry

about covering application points. I keep the atomizer in my pocket and refresh while walking from my car or in the

men's room. Dabbing NPA and Chikara on the run is too much hassle.

[joseph956]

I prefer mixing

NPA and A-1 with my fav cologne (Burberry Weekend) in an atomizer. Thus I'm good to go with a few bursts and don't

have to worry about covering application points. I keep the atomizer in my pocket and refresh while walking from my

car or in the men's room. Dabbing NPA and Chikara on the run is too much hassle.
Desperate times call for

desperate measures.. in other words, I didn't purchase an atomizer, heh.. plus the bulging of the NPA bottle in my

pocket doesn't hurt the perception I give off to the ladies.. :lol:

Speaking a bit more on my NPA/Chikara

experiences.. last night I was approached by a wealthy older man (42 who was a petroleum engineer and had the

uniform and badge to prove it, heh) who was talking to me, patting me on the back, and buying me drinks the whole

night, even when I pulled out my wallet and money, he would pay before I could lay it down (not like I minded)..

anyway, long story short.. it definitely gives you that added respect factor from males, if nothing else.. got ALOT

of stares from women as well, but I wasn't in the particular mood to make contact.

j

[Mtnjim]

Speaking a bit

more on my NPA/Chikara experiences.. last night I was approached by a wealthy older man (42 who was a petroleum

engineer and had the uniform and badge to prove it, heh) who was talking to me, patting me on the back, and buying

me drinks the whole night, even when I pulled out my wallet and money, he would pay before I could lay it down (not

like I minded).. anyway, long story short.. it definitely gives you that added respect factor from males, if nothing

else.. got ALOT of stares from women as well, but I wasn't in the particular mood to make contact.

j


Maybe he was looking for some "company"???:run:

[Rbt]

So NPA really is

that powerful on both sexes? Women will become that aroused being around you especially if you're already good

looking/well dressed? And males will want to "hang with ya"? LOL.

Well, I want to introduce a cautionary

note, and I suppose this may be the best thread to do it in, as it concerns some of my recent experiences with NPA

(just started adding it to "the mix.").


To make it short and sweet, but admittedly a little lacking on detail:

I have been experimenting with SOE and Chikara recently, and I *think* I found some application amounts that are

giving me some positive results. Small, but positive. One of the "subjects" in my trials is a single woman about 35

y/o whom I deal with about three times a week. Once at a "lunch with the gang," once in a relatively "one-on-one"

social situation (BS type session), and once in a sorta "early morning business" meeting with one or two other

people.

On a few occasions I was getting "chatty/friendly" responses with both SOE and Chikara. Then as an

experiment, and as I had a single subject that seemed to be reacting, I added about 1-2 "dabs" (not drops) of NPA to

see what would happen. In each case things got "frosty." Whereas the encounter before (and afterwards) seemed good

to okay, the meeting involving NPA wasn't. After thinking about it, I came to the conclusion her reactions seemed

"defensive" and perhaps "nervous/uncomfortable."

I am of the opinion we are still "pretty good friends" at least

(with maybe a bit of "other" interest shall we say). The overall positive reactions are still there so it's not

like it's something permanent. So here's the question. Is it possible NPA is working "too well" here in creating a

"sexual" overtone? Is it possible she is feeling she may be "losing control" and withdrawing a bit? (Body language

clue: if she sits down while I have NPA on she croses legs tightly and keeps arms close to body. She doesn't do

this when I'n not wearing NPA.) maybe she is afraid of "crossing the sexual line" so to speak?

Thoughts and

opinions?

[bjf]

The old beta chikara yielded better

results for me as the spray volume was 2.6 times smaller. I find it a lot harder to acheive the same success with

the current stuff.

[MOBLEYC57]

Well, I want to

introduce a cautionary note, and I suppose this may be the best thread to do it in, as it concerns some of my recent

experiences with NPA (just started adding it to "the mix.").


To make it short and sweet, but admittedly a

little lacking on detail: I have been experimenting with SOE and Chikara recently, and I *think* I found some

application amounts that are giving me some positive results. Small, but positive. One of the "subjects" in my

trials is a single woman about 35 y/o whom I deal with about three times a week. Once at a "lunch with the gang,"

once in a relatively "one-on-one" social situation (BS type session), and once in a sorta "early morning business"

meeting with one or two other people.

On a few occasions I was getting "chatty/friendly" responses with both SOE

and Chikara. Then as an experiment, and as I had a single subject that seemed to be reacting, I added about 1-2

"dabs" (not drops) of NPA to see what would happen. In each case things got "frosty." Whereas the encounter before

(and afterwards) seemed good to okay, the meeting involving NPA wasn't. After thinking about it, I came to the

conclusion her reactions seemed "defensive" and perhaps "nervous/uncomfortable."

I am of the opinion we are

still "pretty good friends" at least (with maybe a bit of "other" interest shall we say). The overall positive

reactions are still there so it's not like it's something permanent. So here's the question. Is it possible NPA

is working "too well" here in creating a "sexual" overtone? Is it possible she is feeling she may be "losing

control" and withdrawing a bit? (Body language clue: if she sits down while I have NPA on she croses legs tightly

and keeps arms close to body. She doesn't do this when I'n not wearing NPA.) maybe she is afraid of "crossing the

sexual line" so to speak?

Thoughts and opinions?
How/what exactly are you applying whatever you're

using? :blink:

To me, sounds like she's noticed the change, and could be sensing the change from the friendly

& relaxed vibe to the WTF's going on with me wanting him vibe. Could be good, or could be bad. Pay close attention,

as it sounds like you are. Besides the crossing of her body parts, how is acting towards you ... is she still

friendly and talkative? :blink:

[Gegogi]

"The old beta chikara

yielded better results for me as the spray volume was 2.6 times smaller. I find it a lot harder to acheive the same

success with the current stuff."

Sheesh, are you sure 2.6x smaller? How the heck did you measure

that? Incidentally, it's easy to cut off the spray top and transfer the contents to another atomizer or bottle. An

old SOE roll-on might allow more control. If you really want precision, a pipette may be in your

future.

I've found the amount of pheromones I use is the least important aspect of interactions with women.

Of course they help, but I don't give them too much credit. I can really pour on the NPA with few adverse effects.

Only really young women, e.g., 18-22, seem to fidget or get nervous, and they get over it fast and often come back

for more. I use my persona, appearance and conversation skills to attract and reassure my female friends.

[bjf]

Gegogi:

I believe Bass took

the measurements.

I wouldn't suspect it would matter much in your case, given that you can wear such a wide

range of mone amounts. That probably has to do with the fact that your not an intimidating fellow and also don't

have much of a natural stink, iirc

[xslikx]

(Body language clue: if

she sits down while I have NPA on she croses legs tightly and keeps arms close to body. She doesn't do this when

I'n not wearing NPA.)
A friend of mine who has a long distance boyfriend has taken to this sort of body

language lately when I'm wearing NPA. Whenever we brush against each other, she pulls back very quickly.

Nevertheless, she calls me to hang out on a regular basis.

The other night when I was leaving her place, she

admitted that she was confused and that, while she didn't want to compromise her relationship, she wanted to hang

out with me all the time. When I was walking out the door, she gave me a big smile and said, "My head is spinning."

I just smiled and told her I'd see her later. I didn't bother to point out that if I make her head spin and if she

really wants to hang out with me all the time, her relationship is already compromised.

[Rbt]

How/what exactly

are you applying whatever you're using? :blink:
Tried with SOE (about 8" neck, 2" each wrist) Chikara

(2-2.5 sprays neck w/some to wrists) and Perception (was about 2-3 sprays of questionable size as I think atomizer

is screwed up. Same locations as Chikara). NPA: one decent dab (invert bottle on finger) split between both sides of

neck. I *think* I *may* have been applying NPA last, and not before other products (or Perception cover).





To me, sounds like she's noticed the change, and could be sensing the change from the friendly &

relaxed vibe to the WTF's going on with me wanting him vibe. Could be good, or could be bad. Pay close attention,

as it sounds like you are. Besides the crossing of her body parts, how is acting towards you ... is she still

friendly and talkative? :blink:
She pretty much turns "frosty." Defensive. Acts uncomfortable. Times

*without* NPA we're fine and friendly. Although "cossing the line" to something more intimate *may* still be in the

back of her mind. The NPA may, as you suggest, put some subtle additional pressure on her, as I think she's being

cautious. Going from "friendly" to "intimate" *does* change the relationship. Maybe she is afraid that things will

take a turn for the worse... Not sure her past relationships have all turned out well, shall we say. I don't try to

change any aspect of my behavior with or without the NPA. I'm going to be seeing her again soon for an informal

group movie date thing, and I'll be trying AE straight and checking latest reactions.

I'm going to try to keep

this discussion centered on the specific affects of NPA as they might apply to the general public and not a "how do

I nail THIS chick" discussion. She just happens to be handy to use as a test subject because I see her regularly and

I think she is responding to the 'mones. Although if something "good" DOES develop I ain't gonna turn it down...



:twisted:

[Rbt]

A friend of mine who

has a long distance boyfriend has taken to this sort of body language lately when I'm wearing NPA. Whenever we

brush against each other, she pulls back very quickly. Nevertheless, she calls me to hang out on a regular basis.



The other night when I was leaving her place, she admitted that she was confused and that, while she didn't want

to compromise her relationship, she wanted to hang out with me all the time. When I was walking out the door, she

gave me a big smile and said, "My head is spinning." I just smiled and told her I'd see her later. I didn't bother

to point out that if I make her head spin and if she really wants to hang out with me all the time, her relationship

is already compromised.
This reaction does sound similar to my experiences. She is okay unless I'm

wearing NPA, then she pulls back in almost a defensive posture. When I'm not using NPA all is fine. I'd be tempted

to cut back on NPA usage when around her, at least for the time being.

[MOBLEYC57]

This reaction does sound similar to my experiences. She is okay unless I'm wearing NPA, then she pulls

back in almost a defensive posture. When I'm not using NPA all is fine. I'd be tempted to cut back on NPA usage

when around her, at least for the time being.OR, he can cover the NPA with SOE.

OR, he could shelf NPA,

and try TE. Even though many say they're the same thing, only one is more diluted, I think they put out a different

signals to different signal catchers (noses). :blink:


The Life and Times of a True Mad Scientist!

:frustrate

And yes, "I'm reserving all rights to be wrong." :thumbsup: Damn, I love

that saying!:whip:

[Skyy]

Ive said it once and ill say it

again

1 Dab of Npa
1 Spray of C7

Both applied to adams apple

go out and play

[MOBLEYC57]

Ive said it once and

ill say it again

1 Dab of Npa
1 Spray of C7

Both applied to adams apple

go out and play
1)

NPA covered by Perception, Skyy? :blink:

2) Attention getter, or aggressive attention getter? :blink:

3)

Age range of those that you've noticed caught a wiff of ya with that mix on? :blink:

Thanks! :thumbsup:

[Skyy]

1) NPA covered by

Perception, Skyy? :blink:

2) Attention getter, or aggressive attention getter? :blink:

3) Age

range of those that you've noticed caught a wiff of ya with that mix on? :blink:

Thanks!

:thumbsup:


On bad days just attention getter. Good days it's agressive =)

Age range

22-27 is best results. Ive pulled a few 35-39.

I've gotten close next to girls at work and say I smell

good, which then follows with a peck to my neck. (only 2 girls do this)

Other than that a lot of the other

girls will become flustered when I come around. Also they will always find some way to touch me or grab my hands

[CptKipling]

For something similar using TE

instead of NPA, try 2-3 dabs covered by 1 spray of the new C7.

Great combo

[Rbt]

OR, he can cover

the NPA with SOE.
So you think the SOE will "modify" the intensity of NPA? I got the same "nervous"

reaction last time I did a SOE NPA combo, but I admit I may have put the NPA *over* the SOE. (I'd rather try to

find a combo that works before I do an actual "mix" ie combining products in a single bottle.)

[MOBLEYC57]

So you think the SOE

will "modify" the intensity of NPA? I got the same "nervous" reaction last time I did a SOE NPA combo, but I admit I

may have put the NPA *over* the SOE. (I'd rather try to find a combo that works before I do an actual "mix" ie

combining products in a single bottle.)
Yeah, I do. Shake the dice and put one dab on each pulse point,

cover with a halfa pack of the gel, and hit yourself with two good shots of some quality smellyagood (cologne) about

the chest and wrist. Then tell me what you think. ? :sick:

Tis all about experimenting, and you'll never know

until ya try! :wave:

[Rbt]

Yeah, I do. Shake

the dice and put one dab on each pulse point, cover with a halfa pack of the gel, and hit yourself with two good

shots of some quality smellyagood (cologne) about the chest and wrist. Then tell me what you think. ? :sick:



Tis all about experimenting, and you'll never know until ya try! :wave:
I may have to aim for the neck

area as we are still cold enough around here to be covering wrists with shirts and sweaters. Plus I think the

neck/chest area gets closer to the noses. I'd be using scented SOE (either the roll-on or a gel pack). Still think

I'd need additional cover scent?

(Plus: that's far more of the products than I have ever used. Had been using

about 1/4 to 1/3rd SOE gel pack at most per application.)

[Gegogi]

Scented SOE has a mild

"woody-earthy" scent. It mixes well with many colognes and EOs, but doesn't require additional scent. It's your

call.

[MOBLEYC57]

I may have to aim for

the neck area as we are still cold enough around here to be covering wrists with shirts and sweaters. Plus I think

the neck/chest area gets closer to the noses.
Smarts! :box:


I'd be using scented SOE

(either the roll-on or a gel pack). Still think I'd need additional cover scent? (Plus: that's far more of the

products than I have ever used. Had been using about 1/4 to 1/3rd SOE gel pack at most per application.)

That might be the problem of all your problems right dar! :POKE:

MY THOUGHTS, and my thoughts only.

:sick:

I say yes to the needing of a cover scent, 'cause ... (1) you're trying to hide the funk power of NPA

... I find that the amount you use is impossible to cover it, which is probably why your lady friend stands back a

bit + the power of NPA side kicking her to the nose. 'Specially if she has one of those female noses (women are

suppose to be able to smell twice as much as men).(2) Since that is what you've been using with your dabs of

NPA, you may even use it the way you've been using it (applying the gel first, and then NPA), but use more SOE gel.

(3) Before changing your method, try using more gel, and work from there + the cover scent, 'cause you should know

that the cover of SOE doesn't last too long, even those the mones does. (4) If you still find it's overpowering,

switch to covering the NPA with a half pack of gel.

Tis too gooda mix to give up on. You can't :nono: get'cha

MAD SCIENTIST sticker if you don't experiment YOSELF! :lol:

Still, I'm reserving all rights to be wrong.

:drunk:

[Rbt]

Before changing

your method, try using more gel, and work from there + the cover scent, 'cause you should know that the cover of

SOE doesn't last too long, even those the mones does. (4) If you still find it's overpowering, switch to covering

the NPA with a half pack of gel.
The most recent experiments have been with the roll-on SOE (about 12"

total) rather than the gel (I'm saving my gel packs for some trade shows I've got coming up). Will try "pouring

on" more of the SOE on my next SOE/NPA test runs. May also up the ante on the NPA tests I'm doing with other

products (like Chikara and AE). I usually do a NPA addition near the end of my test runs. I often start with rather

small amounts of products and work my way up over a period of about 2 weeks, so the NPA is added at the end of the

test run with the higher doses. Still, as you say, it may not be enough "cover." I CAN smell *something* with NPA (I

couldn't smell anything with the PI I had available), but it wasn't something I found unpleasant or cause an

adverse feeling at least for me. May indeed be affecting "subject" differently. We shall see.





Tis too gooda mix to give up on. You can't :nono: get'cha MAD SCIENTIST sticker if you don't

experiment YOSELF! :lol:

Still, I'm reserving all rights to be wrong. :drunk:
Well, I may already be

well on the way to my MS sticker. I've decided to celebrate my becoming a "Full Member" of the forums by adding an

avatar that friends say looks like me... (I got a smaller 'stash however...)