Tongkat Ali and Maca

[jstrack]

I've entered my

40's and my virility has declined....It sucks to get old and happens way to quickly.... In any case, I don't think

these products would have done anything for me when I was in my 20's or early 30's. For the guys and perhaps gals

over 40, however, this stuff is for you if you want your sex life back.

In any case, I've tried these two

products and noticed an extreme difference. The first couple of days may be a bit wierd as your body gets used to

it, but this stuff trully works. The first weak, one might find that they are a bit more tired during the day. I did

not notice a problem sleeping, but I have not taken the products after 3:00pm becasue I have read that some people

have trouble sleeping at night.

One can get Maca at any typcial vitamin type store. Tongkat is a bit more

difficult, but there are some good posts with links if you do a search.

There may also be something to the

reports that this stuff helps one produce their own natural pheromones. I certainly feel that I carry myself

better....but I definately do not have a permanent smile on my face like those TV commercials....LOL

Hope

this helps....

[DCW]

When you say you virility decliend

are you referring to stamina or lack of erection?
Just curious.


DCW

[jstrack]

I'm more interested, I get wood

like I did when I was younger and the experience feels better. I don't have a problem with stamina or lack of an

erection, so I can't comment on that.

[phersurf]

I've used maca with quite good

results (I'm also in my 40's). I recently got a couple of bags of Tongkat Ali in powder form and It's SOOOO

bitter that I can't get it down on a consistant enough basis to see if its efective. I'm going to get some empty

capsules and fill my own.

Horny Goat Weed, Mucuna pruriens, Muira puama are also effective.

[jstrack]

That's good to hear. I've

tried a lot of stuff without getting any real results, but maca and tongkat are the real deal. I'm interested in

your experience with Tongkat. You will be happy with the product after you put it into capsuls. From what I've

read, the Tongkat takes a couple of weeks to become most effective and that the concentrated stuff....50 to 1 or 100

to one is the way to go. My only advice is to give it some time as your body will take some time to adjust....



Years ago I tried yohimbe....that stuff gave me the shakes and was just plain wierd. I took it twice and never

again.... some people have good luck with that, but no me. I would suggest a very small concentration of yohimbe

if anyone wants to experiment...

[phersurf]

Yohimbe is nasty

stuff!

It can cause drastic, dangerous changes in blood pressure even in otherwise healthy people. And if you

have some hidden defect in your cardio vascular system, it will find it for you.

At higher doses it can cause

hallucinations and DEATH!

[NaughtieGirl]

Yohimbe is

nasty stuff!

It can cause drastic, dangerous changes in blood pressure even in otherwise healthy people. And if

you have some hidden defect in your cardio vascular system, it will find it for you.

At higher doses it can

cause hallucinations and DEATH!I have to agree. I know for sure about the blood pressure side effects.

That's why I've never bought it.

I think L-arginine might be a safer alternative. I see that ingredient many

times in the "sexual enhancement" supplements. I have no first-hand experience with it though.

[belgareth]

L- Arginine works very well and

has several other health benefits also. I have been taking one gram per day for over a year, increasing the amount

2-3x when a 'play' weekend is planned. Nothing to ever complain about.

[NaughtieGirl]

L- Arginine

works very well and has several other health benefits also. I have been taking one gram per day for over a year,

increasing the amount 2-3x when a 'play' weekend is planned. Nothing to ever complain about.
Well thanks

for the info! I shall Google for the other health benefits.
We get our vitamins from WholeHealth.com and we've

been very happy with the info provided on the website and the service.

[phersurf]

L-aginine has 2 sexual

benifits.

Male ejaculate is largely made up of arginine. Taking more increses the production. This effect

happens withiin about an hour.

L-arginine leads to the production of Nitric Oxide. NO is neccessary for

strong erections. NO causes the blood vesels leading to the penis to become more relaxed increasing blood flow.

Actually this is how Viagra, Cialis works. They relax the blood vesels causing more blood flow (by a different

mechanism than NO). The increased NO effect takes several weeks to happen since the arginine has to build up in the

system.

There does seem to be some sexual benifits for women. The increased blood flow causes the clitoris to

become more sensitive and some women report stronger orgasms.

[belgareth]

Well thanks

for the info! I shall Google for the other health benefits.
We get our vitamins from WholeHealth.com and we've

been very happy with the info provided on the website and the service.
The relaxation of blood vessels

that Phersurf mentions are also heart healthy, providing better blood flow to and through the heart.

[NaughtieGirl]

The

relaxation of blood vessels that Phersurf mentions are also heart healthy, providing better blood flow to and

through the heart.
That is excellent, thanks for that info!

[belgareth]

Right 'appy to 'elp,

y'all.

As I said earlier, I take Tribex to increase testosterone also. The two are a good combo. Tried DHEA but

all it did was cause more of my hair to fall out. I'm doing very well at that without any help.

[NaughtieGirl]

Right

'appy to 'elp, y'all.

As I said earlier, I take Tribex to increase testosterone also. The two are a good

combo. Tried DHEA but all it did was cause more of my hair to fall out. I'm doing very well at that without any

help.
Uhoh! You might be onto something! Maybe he should replace the DHEA with L-Arginine and/or Tribex!