View Full Version : yet another new woman on board...
silksand
03-13-2005, 09:37 AM
Hi
everyone - I've made a few posts but thought I should introduce myself. I've been doing a lot of reading here and
appreciate the depth of experience/experimentation that is shared here, often with a great deal of humor and
personality!
I'm a 47-year-old woman, married, living with the same guy for 8+ years, and looking for
pheromonal help with perimenopausal/too-comfortable relationship libido issues. I've currently been using the
Beginning's combo, liking Alter Ego and Scent of Eros, not so sure about Edge/w yet ... such a sharp scent that
-none has on me, even with the Super Primal Oil mixed in (the Sapphire scent is very nice, by the way).
After seeing it mentioned here, I've also started using Realm for Women as a PMS reliever and find it helps
take that emotional edge off. I don't really like the scent of original Realm, which smells like a thin, poorly
balanced oriental to me, and needs covering with a better quality ambery oriental like Opium, Shalimar or Angelique
Encens. But Inner Realm is a light floral, somewhat powdery and easier for me to handle.
I've just ordered
the PI/w and PCC; I emailed FTR about my needs and she was extremely informative and encouraging, and this was her
recommendation. I think it's the copulins in SoE that I like so much about it, so I'm eager to see what effect PCC
has. My husband has been maybe a bit randier than usual, as have I, while I've been doing all this experimenting.
Oscar has suggested that maybe DH would wear some mones for me and I've given him some sample gel packs to try, but
he seems reluctant to do so ... I think he just doesn't like applying anything that might have an odor, or perhaps
he thinks it's all artificial somehow and therefore inauthentic... Coincidentally, though, he was visiting a friend
out of state last week and got turned on to Old Spice Pure Sport High Endurance Body Wash (which I think was
discussed here recently??) - he liked how it smelled and liked that it left him feeling clean, unlike soap and all
other body washes he's tried. The thing is, although this product does not smell that good in the bottle, the scent
it leaves on the skin is fabulous and highly male-pheromonal! It even says on the back of the bottle "won't wash
off testosterone!" which has elicited much derision in some blogs I found... but I guess we know what they're
getting at. It is actually a deliciously authentic manly smell ... I had a boyfriend in college who smelled this way
naturally, and I think it's quite a feat of science that my 49-year-old clean-freak husband can now smell just as
good! I used to encourage him not to shower off all his sweat so often; now showering may be a good thing!
wood elf
03-13-2005, 10:37 AM
Silksand:
Welcome! I like
the way you think about male scent! There are times when my man comes in from working outside or exercising that I
want to eat him he smells so good. Do you wear Shalimar a lot? I have always liked the scent and was given a bottle
of the perfume for Christmas this year. Since we both like oriental scents we have been looking at sites on the web
that carry other asian products. Are there any you know of that are as nice?
I'm very glad to see another woman
posting.
W. Elf
silksand
03-13-2005, 11:17 AM
Hi, Wood Elf!
Smells are so essential to sensuality, aren't they? Some other oriental scents I like are Boudoir (floral-oriental
with a woman's-sexual-juices note), Habanita (hints of leather and tobacco under a powdery, womanly
benzoin/musk/vanilla floral), Intuition (ambery floral with some green notes), Indecence (delicious
cinnamon/vanilla/cedar), among others. (I'm using "oriental" in the olfactive family sense, not implying
Asian...)
DrSmellThis
03-13-2005, 11:47 AM
Old spice always did have a
classic manly smell to it.
I'd love to know more about ewhat you ladies like as far as perfumes. That will give
me ideas. Shalimar is a timeless favorite, I guess.
silksand
03-13-2005, 12:58 PM
Yes, DST, Old Spice is
nice, but this new product does not have the classic recognizable Old Spice scent at all. This is not your dad's
cologne...
RE: what perfume I like ... it's been a major hobby and passion of mine for the past 18 months
or so. Some current loves are:
Serge Lutens Fleurs d'Oranger
Annick Goutal Les Nuits d'Hadrien
Attar
Bazaar Persian Amber
Frederic Malle Iris Poudre, and Une Fleur de Cassie
Chanel No. 22 (love the
vetiver/vanilla/incense under white florals)
Coriandre, Balmain de Balmain, Jolie Madame in the chypre/green
category
Guerlain Ylang & Vanille
I'm all over the map - just not crazy about gourmands; anything else
I'm game for.
wood elf
03-13-2005, 01:17 PM
Hi, Wood Elf!
Smells are so essential to sensuality, aren't they? Some other oriental scents I like are Boudoir (floral-oriental
with a woman's-sexual-juices note), Habanita (hints of leather and tobacco under a powdery, womanly
benzoin/musk/vanilla floral), Intuition (ambery floral with some green notes), Indecence (delicious
cinnamon/vanilla/cedar), among others. (I'm using "oriental" in the olfactive family sense, not implying
Asian...)
Yes, more than most men seem to know! If a man doesn't smell right it can ruin the whole mood.
Have you noticed that men who drink a lot or don't eat well don't smell as sensual?
Thank you so much for the
list of perfumes. I will start looking for them next week to see what I like. Are they available in stores or do I
find them online?
NaughtieGirl
03-13-2005, 03:02 PM
Dear
Silksand,
Hi! I'm so happy you decided to join us! We really need more women here!
Guerlain Ylang &
Vanille - I will certainly go check it out. I just bought an essential oil this weekend that had Ylang in it and I
loved it. All those perfumes sound pretty French. Are you in France?
About the topic of "male scent" - Boy do I
have a story for you guys! Proof positive to me that pheromones (at least the natural onces) most CERTAINLY exist
and RULE! But it's too long of a story for right now. I just wanted to say I'm happy you started posting as well!
We are in very similar situations you and I. I look forward to swapping experiment results with you!
Naughtie
silksand
03-13-2005, 06:29 PM
Yes, more than
most men seem to know! If a man doesn't smell right it can ruin the whole mood. Have you noticed that men who drink
a lot or don't eat well don't smell as sensual?
Thank you so much for the list of perfumes. I will start
looking for them next week to see what I like. Are they available in stores or do I find them
online?
Absolutely agree with you, Wood Elf, about heavy alcohol/poor diet making a man (or a woman
for that matter) smell not so good, particularly if it's a chronic problem ... they can actually reek for a long
time AFTER they clean up their system. I notice even my single cup of coffee gives my sweat a more acrid note (too
bad I like it so much!)
Most of my collection has come from online sources - ebay or places like
attarbazaar.com, and some from places like TJMaxx - you can often find classic perfumes like the Balmains, Givenchys
and Guerlains there, as well as more trendy things. On ebay, you can often find people selling decants of the harder
to find scents like Annick Goutal, Serge Lutens and Frederic Malle - 1/3 oz for $10-18 or so. It's a great way to
experiment without a big investment.
silksand
03-13-2005, 06:41 PM
Dear
Silksand,
Hi! I'm so happy you decided to join us! We really need more women here!
Guerlain
Ylang & Vanille - I will certainly go check it out. I just bought an essential oil this weekend that had Ylang in it
and I loved it. All those perfumes sound pretty French. Are you in France?
About the topic of "male scent"
- Boy do I have a story for you guys! Proof positive to me that pheromones (at least the natural onces) most
CERTAINLY exist and RULE! But it's too long of a story for right now. I just wanted to say I'm happy you started
posting as well! We are in very similar situations you and I. I look forward to swapping experiment results with
you!
Naughtie
Hi Naughtie! Thanks for your warm welcome. Yes, we are in similar situations,
although in my case it's my own libido that had been flagging - interestingly, it seems the remedy may be the same.
I'd love to hear your male-scent story when you want to tell it!
oh yeah - I'm not in France, just
Minnesota. Most of those 'fumes I mentioned are French, though, except Boudoir (Vivienne Westwood is a Brit),
Annick Goutal is Dutch, and Persian Amber (Attar Bazaar is in the U.S. though the owners are of Middle Eastern
origin or ancestry, I believe). I think Ylang has a very sensual quality, along with jasmine, orange blossom and
tuberose. The Ylang & Vanille is a discontinued fragrance but you can still find it on ebay (best prices) and lots
of online dealers still have stock. (happy shopping!)
wood elf
03-13-2005, 06:51 PM
I have not developed a taste
for coffee other than sometimes having Latte. Belgareth likes dark roasted coffee but I have not ever noticed a
smell from it on him. It might be offset by all the fruit he eats. I do not know.
This week will be spring
break so I will have time to look around during the day. I will check EBay too. Thank you for so much good
information.
wood elf
03-13-2005, 06:57 PM
About the
topic of "male scent" - Boy do I have a story for you guys! Proof positive to me that pheromones (at least the
natural onces) most CERTAINLY exist and RULE! But it's too long of a story for right now.
NaughtiePlease
do tell us your story. I am looking forward to it.
Kendra
03-14-2005, 08:23 AM
Welcome Silksand!!!!!!
I'm
French and I'm in France!! Perfume center of the world :p
By the way I would like to hear your story too because I
just looove natural man scent :p !!!
bindy
03-24-2005, 09:34 PM
Hi Silksand,
I started using
Maca because of menstrual cramps, and it had the added benefit of helping my libido. I'm have a very high sex
drive now, but a year ago it wasn't quite so high. I've also had the experience of finding the natural male scent
very appealing, as long as it's not sweaty dirty. I've been using mones for about a year and find that they also
help a lot.
Good luck,
Bindy
silksand
03-26-2005, 12:13 PM
Hi Kendra and Bindy, thanks for
replying! Kendra, you are lucky indeed to be in the fragrance capital, not only for the 'fumes you find there, but
also because I understand there is not so much of a "scent backlash" as in the U.S. - there is quite a movement
getting started here involving people who want to ban wearing fragrance in public, can you imagine?!
Bindy,
thanks for mentioning maca. I had heard about maca for libido and did give it a try for 6 weeks or so ... I'm
afraid it did not do anything for me, but I am happy to know damiana is effective for me, at least for a few
hours!
Pancho1188
03-26-2005, 12:18 PM
Hi Kendra and
Bindy, thanks for replying! Kendra, you are lucky indeed to be in the fragrance capital, not only for the 'fumes
you find there, but also because I understand there is not so much of a "scent backlash" as in the U.S. - there is
quite a movement getting started here involving people who want to ban wearing fragrance in public, can you
imagine?!
Some people are allergic, and others wear too much, especially men because women have
stronger senses of smell than men. That's not a reason to ban them, though...
silksand
03-27-2005, 03:33 PM
You're right, Pancho, many
people have reactions to perfume or to strong smells of any kind, and essential oils are no exception. And there are
a few "offenders" who wear too much without regard for others - wearing a lot of scent is a good way to keep others
at a distance, and I've heard some men say they even do this consciously for that effect. In my experience, though,
women are more likely to overdo it, and men are just as likely to be suffering ill effects from other's overdoses.
In fact several men in my life have gotten headaches from exposure to strongly applied scent.
I've read
some speculation and tend to agree with it, that part of the reason so many in North America are becoming very
sensitive to fragrance is that large quantities of it is being put in so MANY products nowadays - trash bags,
tissues, cleansers, and detergents among many others. We are actually bombarded by it unless we live off the grid
somehow. Many synthetic musks used commercially in such products are polluting our waterways and interfering with
mating habits of certain species... it's a much bigger issue than simply perfume, sad to say - and banning the
wearing of perfume (which has actually taken place in Halifax, Nova Scotia) is not likely to address it
effectively.
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