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Dag0n
03-06-2005, 06:36 PM
Ok... this is for all you out there that may be experimenting in non-bathing to increase the amount of
pheromones on you. I've found a couple products that are perfect for this. One, is the Aveeno balancing bar.
This is a bar made up of powder-fine oatmeal, and a light moisterizer. The natural oatmeal absorbs dirt and oil and
then rinses it away. The second product is something called Naturally Fresh Deodorant crystal which comes in an
applicator and spray form. I have both, they work great and don't cover up your mones. You can obtain these
products at walgreens drug stores and most likely eckerd drug as well. If you don't have those, you might want to
try walmart of course. Anyway, i highly suggest buying these products and experimenting with them. Oh, and always
back yourself up with some Axe if you think you should.
DrSmellThis
03-07-2005, 11:51 AM
Thanks for the suggestions.
I personally avoid deodorant crystals due to high aluminum content, and opt for sandalwood instead.
Sometimes
I'll use a powder on my hair (and sometimes rinse) to manage oils, instead of shampooing. That is what I did
today.
Dag0n
03-07-2005, 06:12 PM
Well... the crystal
stick version does contain aluminum, not really sure if its a danger though or if it effects the mones but the spray
version i like quite a bit and that just contains purified water and natural mineral salts, it works pretty good.
Would like to try sandalwood also or perhaps patchoulli. I was reading in a recent post here how patchoulli is an
scent loved by women however i don't really want to smell like a hippy. heh, maybe sandalwood is my best bet.
culturalblonde
03-07-2005, 06:20 PM
Thanks
for the suggestions.
I personally avoid deodorant crystals due to high aluminum content, and opt for
sandalwood instead.
Sometimes I'll use a powder on my hair (and sometimes rinse) to manage oils, instead of
shampooing. That is what I did today.
We use to use powder on our hair when I was young. What type
do you use?
DrSmellThis
03-07-2005, 08:34 PM
Well... the
crystal stick version does contain aluminum, not really sure if its a danger though or if it effects the mones but
the spray version i like quite a bit and that just contains purified water and natural mineral salts, it works
pretty good. Natural mineral salts = aluminum.
DrSmellThis
03-07-2005, 08:36 PM
We use
to use powder on our hair when I was young. What type do you use?I use a talc free formula scented only with
natural essential oils. Just a little takes the excesss oil right out.
InternationalPlayboy
03-07-2005, 08:50 PM
Natural mineral salts = aluminum.
Isn't a danger of aluminum products the fact that
they clog pores? I remember ads for anti-persperants (as opposed to deodorants) boasting that they contained
aluminum chlorhydrate. I don't know if they still use that compound, but I remember reading that it could clog the
pores and cause skin problems.
InternationalPlayboy
03-07-2005, 08:54 PM
Sometimes I'll use a powder on my hair
When I read this this morning, I pictured
a George Washington or Thomas Jefferson hairdo. :D
DumLuc
03-07-2005, 09:00 PM
I've been using deodorant
crystals for years and the good Dr.'s comments gave me some concern; so I did a quick Google check on deodorant
stones and came up with this information.
The Crystal
Story
Consumers would be surprised to learn that over
the years eight different common ingredients found in deodorant products have been banned for posing a health hazard
to users. Many deodorants also contain aluminum chlorohydrate, a harmful chemical still found in 85% of deodorants
on the market.
The Crystal Body Deodorant, the all natural alternative to mainstream deodorants, is
hypo-allergenic, fragrance free, non-sticky, non-staining, and is made of 100% mineral salts with no artificial
coloring or ingredients, chemicals or dyes, and contains no ALUMINUM CHLOROHYDRATE, helping us stay odor-free, safe
and naturally.
Since 1984, when it was first discovered in France, the "Crystal" has been a leader in healthy,
natural deodorant protection. When first released it was sold only in a limited number of stores in the U.S. under
the name, "Le Crystal Naturel", but today these products can be found in over 10,000 locations throughout the United
States and Canada.
The Crystal Body Deodorant products are the #1 best-selling leaders in healthy, natural,
deodorant protection. They have a committed following of loyal customers and are on the shelves of retailers
worldwide.
And this further information:
Deodorant Stones are Natural - Key Points to
Remember
<LI>Alum is a natural compound in nature, is present in the water we drink, in almost all the
foods we eat, and in the air we breathe. According to a study conducted at the University of Wisconsin, the average
American adult diet includes between 20 to 60 milligrams of alum per day, of which 20 to 50 milligrams come from
FDA-approved food additives. Another 2 to 10 milligrams come from the natural content of the foods eaten.
<LI>In
its natural form, alum is the third most abundant element in nature, after oxygen and silicon. It has been part of
our environment since the beginning of time and is one of the basic building blocks of our universe. It makes up
almost 8% of the earth's crust, surpassed in quantity only by oxygen at 47% and silicon at 28%. It is in soil and
clays that only when processed produce metallic aluminum products.
<LI>Deodorant Stones feature physically large
potassium or ammonium alum molecules and are not absorbed into the skin/blood. Water has a molecular weight of 18. A
potassium alum crystal molecule has a molecular weight of 474.38. A potassium or ammonium alum crystal molecule, in
solution, is hydrated 24 times and consequently has a molecular weight of 654. It is impossible through natural
means to get water to permeate the skin. Witness the large number of moisturizers available at the cosmetic counter
and imagine how difficult it would be for a molecule that weighs 36.3 times as much as water to permeate the skin.
<LI>The pH of the solution resulting from the topical application of potassium alum with perspiration is
typically in the slightly acid range of 4 to 5.
DrSmellThis
03-07-2005, 09:16 PM
To me the worst danger with
aluminum is its tentative association with Alzheimers.
Essential oils are so much easier. Would you guys like me
to make you a deodorant?
Dag0n
03-07-2005, 09:19 PM
I must say
that i was a bit concerned with dr's findings too... however, it seems that this has been cleared up as you say
alum does not pose any dangers. however... one more thing that makes me wonder, it does state that natural mineral
salts does kill bacterias, and as i have been reading this may also be a problem in the respect that the mones may
derive from these bacterias and thus even using these products would deminish the point of trying to keep the mones
intact. I've only just begun to start the process of using these products though so i do not know right now of any
results it may yield. I suppose we can only go on those results in the end. Please feel free to add more insights
and or ideas/product ideas to this post.
DumLuc
03-07-2005, 09:22 PM
I worry about aluminium also, but
I don't believe the deodorant stone have aluminium in them. Here is another take on the issue:
Natural Crystal Body Deodorant
The natural crystal deodorant of the future - Here
now!
Crystal Deodorant Crystals
A wonderful gift from nature, the deodorant is
crafted from natural cubic crystals. Will it work?
Its natural anti-bacterial action eliminates the Bacteria
which cause odour simply, effectively and safely. It keeps on working for 24 hours and
more.
Why should I use
it?
Because it contains No! Aluminum Chlorohydrate or Chlorohydroxide. These substances are contained in
most commercial sprays and roll ons. They are absorbed by the body and the aluminum portion ionizes and can form
free radicals in the body. This is becoming a matter of concern in some medical areas and is now the subject of new
research.
Crystal deodorant is totally
different and totally natural, it is made without the addition of harmful chemicals, fragrances or oils. They are
also exceedingly suitable even for the most sensitive skin.They are Hypoallergenic and they won't stain your
clothes or discolour your skin.Crystal deodorant is 100% environmentally friendly and has never been tested on any
animal
Easy to
use
Just leave your skin wet after
washing and apply the crystal to the underarms or feet. A little of the crystal dissolves and covers the skin with
an invisible micro-scopic protective film that eliminates the odour causing bacteria effectively until the next
day.
Be kind to yourself and give yourself a fresh clean feeling all day.
Do you have some evidence that deodorant crystals
contain aluminium, Dr.?
DrSmellThis
03-07-2005, 09:27 PM
Alum is aluminum:
http://216.239.63.104/search?q=cache:aUJRj30VgUwJ:www.internethealthlibr ary.com/aluminum.htm+alum+alzheimers
&hl=en
http://www.rense.com/general37/alum.htm
They make a big deal about there not being any aluminum chlorohydrate, as if that means there is no aluminum!
Typical marketing BS.
Why mess with it?
Dag0n
03-07-2005, 09:29 PM
hmm... I am going to
try some oils soon dr. but what do you prefer? sandalwood or patchoulli? patchoulli ranks highest in the female
scent department but man, i can't stand that hippy smell it has... also, here's the website for those crystal
deoderant products. I'm gonna check it out now, maybe they can give more insights... they got an 800 number.
www.tccd.com
Dag0n
03-07-2005, 09:34 PM
interesting findings dr... how
effective would you say oils are in covering up stench though? i mean... patchoulli for instance is used by many
hippies and man do some of them stink, perhaps the patchoulli actually makes them smell worse? By enhancing the
stench? I dunno, just a thought... I've smelled sandalwood, from what i can remember its not far off from
patchoulli. So perhaps it would enhance the stench in certain people as I think patchoulli does? whats your take
on that?
DrSmellThis
03-07-2005, 09:34 PM
Please check out the links I
posted.
Dag0n
03-07-2005, 09:40 PM
I did... I know that aluminum has
been linked to Alzheimers... but what i want is your feedback on the oils.
Dag0n
03-07-2005, 09:54 PM
Hey bruce... got
any suggestions? Also, maybe you can help me out, what mone products would you recommend for a 26 yr old male?
I've seen lots of good reviews with soe/npa combos.
Dag0n
03-07-2005, 10:01 PM
Hmm.... well, here is another link
I found on this topic, who knows if its legit or not...
http://askwaltstollmd.com/archives/antiper/168475.html
DumLuc
03-07-2005, 10:22 PM
This was the article that I
attempted to post:
The
Protection Racket (http://www.creatinghealthybeauty.com/protection_racket.htm)
DrSmellThis
03-08-2005, 10:38 AM
I did... I know
that aluminum has been linked to Alzheimers... but what i want is your feedback on the oils. Neither oil
will make you stink. Hippies typically never bathe, don't change clothes, often have unhealthy lifestyles, and grow
stinking, moldy dreds. Then they wear an obnoxious amount of bad quality patchouli in a vain attempt to compensate.
That's not you.
Dag0n
03-08-2005, 01:57 PM
Hey... You have a good
point. I shouldn't be worried, unless someone makes a comment. Then i guess i know i am not doing something
right. Anyway i tried a little patchoulli under my arms today and nobody said anything so maybe tomorrow i'll try
some more. I could faintly smell it today but not sure if anybody else could, i think its safe to say that going
light with essential oils is the preferred method as it seems to be that less is always better. Anyway, I called a
proffessor at the university in my city and left him a message about the natural deodorant products, i believe the
research that has come from the posts and his conclusion should let us know if these products are safe or not. I'll
keep ya updated...
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