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InternationalPlayboy
02-07-2005, 12:45 PM
In a recent Archer Sloan email, I saw mention of something called "psychic seduction." Curious, I did a
web search and among the sites I came across one offering various free self-improvement MP3s. Of particular interest
to some participants here may be the "MLF da Babe" MP3, which claims the following:
MLF da Babe Free
Mp3 - It's free, powerful and the closest you can get to charm-in-a-bottle!
Bursting with cutting edge DHE,
subliminals and mind altering harmonics, this sound file zaps your mind and creates new neural pathways... opening
doorways to tantalizing relationships and magnificent friendships with women. After you amaze yourself with that
charismatic new you (in just 15 days!), check out the full version and discover how to be the unbeatable Don Juan
you were meant to be. - Created by master hypnotist and NLP practitioner Jobet Claudio.
I haven't
tried any of these yet but as I've always had an interest in these types of "mind programming" techniques, I've
just finished downloading them all at
www.xtrememind.com/freeware.htm (http://www.xtrememind.com/freeware.htm).
slick
02-07-2005, 01:42 PM
i am a member of that site, and i
have a lot of products from there including the fully paid version of mlf da babe. Its basically a visualisation cd
that programmes your mind to change your limiting beliefs with women. There is also a bit on there where you
imagine there is a magnet inside you and women are drawn to you by a powerful magnetic force. This product works if
you follow it to the latter. They also sell other stuff on the site like radianic machines and various self
improvement products
ck
i am a member of that
site, and i have a lot of products from there including the fully paid version of mlf da babe. Its basically a
visualisation cd that programmes your mind to change your limiting beliefs with women. There is also a bit on there
where you imagine there is a magnet inside you and women are drawn to you by a powerful magnetic force. This
product works if you follow it to the latter. They also sell other stuff on the site like radianic machines and
various self improvement products
ck
The big question.......does it work? Did it work
for you?
InternationalPlayboy
02-07-2005, 01:56 PM
i am a
member of that site, and i have a lot of products from there including the fully paid version of mlf da babe. Its
basically a visualisation cd that programmes your mind to change your limiting beliefs with women. There is also a
bit on there where you imagine there is a magnet inside you and women are drawn to you by a powerful magnetic force.
This product works if you follow it to the latter. They also sell other stuff on the site like radianic machines
and various self improvement products
ck
So slick, do you feel the full version is worth
the $80 they want for it? Have you tried the MLF da Money set? If so, what do you think of that one?
I just
listened to the free version that I downloaded and though it's only eight minutes long, I liked the imagery the
narrator suggested and found myself getting aroused. From that first listening, I'm thinking that I may just end up
buying the full version before the end of the month. They have a special right now where they include an expansion
package if you buy the full version before February 28.
I'm "iffy" on radionic devices but have been using
mind machines and binaural cds for over 10 years now for relaxation and "brainwashing."
kappakai
02-07-2005, 02:01 PM
I heard about something similar,
I can't remember the name of it right now... but basically, you put on headphones, non-stereo mono, two frequencies
are emitted through each headphone to create another in your head to induce certain brainwaves to be dominant. is
this the same type of thing?
InternationalPlayboy
02-07-2005, 02:23 PM
I
heard about something similar, I can't remember the name of it right now... but basically, you put on headphones,
non-stereo mono, two frequencies are emitted through each headphone to create another in your head to induce certain
brainwaves to be dominant. is this the same type of thing?
Binaural, Holosynch, etc. They all use
techniques similar to what you described, kappakai. I used to use a "Supermind" machine to do the same thing (an
inferior product to most mind machine enthusiasts and no longer in production) but now prefer CDs as they are more
convenient. The advantage of the machines are that besides being programmable, they usually offer light as well as
audio stimulation. (Light stimulation may cause epileptic seisures in some people though.) You can also usually
patch tapes or CDs through a mind machine where with a binaural CD, you are limited to the content on the
CD.
The theory behind these techniques is that the binaural beats put you into a more receptive state for
behavioral modification suggestions, similiar to a hypnotic state or one right before you drift off to
sleep.
I'm interested to hear if anyone else has any experience with the company I linked to above and their
products, specifically the MLF da Babe and da Money programs and what they think of them.
slick
02-07-2005, 02:49 PM
Yes mlf da babe worked for me, i
used to be very shy around women but since using that product my confidence has increased a lot and i more
comfortable around them. I also find a lot more flirting and eye contact from girls without me doing anything. It
started working for me after a months usage. I have also got Kuldani activator which releases all your chakras which
together with mlf is a great cobo for me. Another product i bought is vanquisher extreme which is supposed to give
mega confidence, i havent used that much so i cant commentPlayboy i would suggest you try all the free downloads
first for a month before buying anything as a lot ofproducts work for some people but not for others, like
pheromones i guess, dont now why. The only thing i would suggest is get a expensive pair of headphones to get the
full benifits of the different beats, everyone on there recommends sennheiser as u dont get the full benifits of the
crapy ones.
also read all the postings in the forum if you already havent, they have some excellent articles and
some really clever guys on there also. As for mlf money i havent tried it so cant comment
ck
TRock
02-07-2005, 10:20 PM
what are your experiences with
these hypnotic cds? i hear this is a good cd : http://www.hypnotica.org/.
i'm afraid to try out the hypnotic stuff because i don't want to pass out listening to it and wake up psychotic.
tim929
02-08-2005, 12:27 AM
This wouldnt be a variation of
"Hit woman over head,drag her back to cave" would it?
Holmes
02-08-2005, 07:22 AM
Thanks for the link,
InternationalPlayboy.
I wish the Monroe Institute offered CDs like these.
InternationalPlayboy
02-08-2005, 07:31 AM
what
are your experiences with these hypnotic cds? i hear this is a good cd :
http://www.hypnotica.org/. i'm afraid to try out the hypnotic stuff because
i don't want to pass out listening to it and wake up psychotic.
I haven't tried that particular CD,
but do include self-hypnosis in my programming. All hypnosis is actually self-hypnosis, which is just a form of deep
relaxation, and the hypnotist just aids in guiding you into that state. Thanks for the link to that site
TRock.
As for worries about losing self-control, I found this quote about hypnosis myths on the
American Society of Clinical Hypnosis (http://www.asch.net/genpubinfo.htm)
website:
Myths About Hypnosis
People often fear that being hypnotized will
make them lose control, surrender their will, and result in their being dominated, but a hypnotic state is not the
same thing as gullibility or weakness. Many people base their assumptions about hypnotism on stage acts but fail to
take into account that stage hypnotists screen their volunteers to select those who are cooperative, with possible
exhibitionist tendencies, as well as responsive to hypnosis. Stage acts help create a myth about hypnosis which
discourages people from seeking legitimate hypnotherapy.
Another myth about hypnosis is that people lose
consciousness and have amnesia. A small percentage of subjects, who go into very deep levels of trance will fit this
stereotype and have spontaneous amnesia. The majority of people remember everything that occurs in hypnosis. This is
beneficial, because the most of what we want to accomplish in hypnosis may be done in a medium depth trance, where
people tend to remember everything.
In hypnosis, the patient is not under the control of the hypnotist.
Hypnosis is not something imposed on people, but something they do for themselves. A hypnotist simply serves as a
facilitator to guide them.
Holmes, you're welcome.
slick
02-08-2005, 01:39 PM
i have the hypnotica cd also
called sphinx of imagination. I would say its one of the best cd's around the sound track is amazing. Basically
hypnotica takes you through a ever changing story that changes everytime you hear it. Its supposed to make you more
creative and, if your stuck with a problem it can help you. I found after listening to it it has, lessened my
depression. If anyone is interested in hypnotism get this one, it is cheap and you wont find something like this
anywhere
ck
tim929
02-08-2005, 02:08 PM
I have a realy neat
hypno-regression CD that is absolutly wonderful.Altho I havent actualy regressed to anything,I always feel wonderful
after I go thru the excersises.Very relaxing and very warm and fuzzy.Hypnosis isnt something to be afraid of.Waking
up psychotic only happens when you live in a trailer park in the mid-west and are abducted by aliens and "probed"
repeatedly.:POKE:Hypnosis has been used with some succes in many areas of self improvement so there is plenty of
anecdotal evidence to support it's use.Even if the "scientists" regard it as witchcraft and voodoo.:smite:
Holmes
02-08-2005, 03:26 PM
Hypnosis isnt
something to be afraid of.
Unless you wake up three days later in Rockville, Maryland, standing in
front of a courthouse and married to a woman you've never met.
Otherwise, perfectly safe.
tonicma
02-08-2005, 08:27 PM
Hypnotic CD's. Not my type of
thing, i don't feel comfortable things like this trying to mess with my mind.
Marlboro_man
02-09-2005, 12:13 AM
Hypnotic
CD's. Not my type of thing, i don't feel comfortable things like this trying to mess with my mind.Whether
you realize it or not you "mess" with your own mind more than any other influence can. The power of the human mind
has been well documented on such things as whether you believe you can or cannot do something.
InternationalPlayboy
02-09-2005, 06:45 AM
Whether you realize it or not you "mess" with your own mind more than any other influence can.
The power of the human mind has been well documented on such things as whether you believe you can or cannot do
something.
Right Marlboro_man. Here's a link to an interesting article by Dick Sutphen, entitled
The Battle for Your Mind (http://www.dicksutphen.com/html/battlemind.html). He has several other articles
about reprogramming the mind at his website. (I always get him confused with Steven Halpern, who does "New Age"
music and subliminal titles.)
This thread has turned into a hypnosis theme in general so it won't hurt my
feelings any if the mods decide to move it.
TRock
02-09-2005, 10:13 AM
In a
recent Archer Sloan email, I saw mention of something called "psychic seduction."
you can get free psychic
seduction stuff from p2p services. i downloaded an ebook, it's not my thing. they use meditation techniques and
other eastern and western mystic stuff to get woman to get horny and want to have sex with you. i think that's what
ross jefferies is doing nowadays too....not sure exactly but if you're a rj fan feel free to correct me if i'm
wrong.
Rover The Dog
02-09-2005, 10:36 AM
I hate listening to this
stuff. I dont know if its just me thinking that it has some great power or the cd itself that makes me get all
tingly inside and feel kinda out of it (by the way im very sensitive to drugs... i have been told this by many
doctors... furthermore i feel the effects of pheromones strongly as well... i have found myself extremely aggressive
with none and very calm and somewhat relaxed with chikara) so is there any danger listening to it? I really want the
effects but I dont want like Trock said "to pass out listening to it and wake up psychotic." So will my
oversensitivity be a problem here?
Also are you supposed to listen to the words hes saying or turn it low enough
so that you cant quite perceive it?
phinmone
02-09-2005, 03:19 PM
"MLF
da Babe" MP3
i have tried this for a longer period a few months ago. now this mp3 has some basic NLP
in it and some (weird) frequencies. the frequencies supposed to help you. but i believe more into the NLP /
imagination excersice.
i did not really get anything from the 8 minute demo sample. i listened to it about 3
weeks every night. i didn't see any significant changes. but maybe you have to listen to the long version for a
longer period to get some good results.
i would stick to some ross jeffries stuff, which i find very
powerful when you want to change yourself. NLP / affirmations is the answer.
phin
slick
02-09-2005, 04:15 PM
the longer version is about 40
plus minutes long, it is much more in it that than short version, i like ross but im more into products by
archersloan and extreme mind
I downloaded the babes demo and I can
not hear anything on my CD/MP3 player.
Rover The Dog
02-09-2005, 06:45 PM
Slick do you notice
results with archersloan? and what products have you bought from them
TRock
02-10-2005, 12:17 AM
Playboy, do you recommend any
relaxation cds?
InternationalPlayboy
02-10-2005, 12:52 PM
Playboy, do you recommend any relaxation cds?
Lately I've been getting into <LINK
DELETED> stuff. It's kind of "New Agey" though, a lot of piano and harps, etc., so if you don't like that kind of
stuff, it might not be for you.
Actually, I've got a couple of customized CDs I listen to the most right now,
especially at bedtime. I had a woman I know who is a trained hypnotist and has a hot voice record a session with
affirmations I've picked up from various sources. I also recorded the same affirmations in my voice. I edited it
all together and used Sound Forge to convert a couple of Halpern's CDs into wav files, then layered the hypnosis
session and affirmations on top of the music. Kind of cool and when I played it for my friend, she was quite
impressed.
In contrast, I once bought a cd called <LINK DELETED>. This one had the opposite effect on me than
the title suggested. It's heavy with violins and other stringed instruments. Violins always give me a melancholy
feeling and the CD actually disturbed my sleep instead of improving it.
It's too bad that music doesn't come
with the same type of great guarantee that Bruce offers for his products here.
slick
02-10-2005, 01:58 PM
i have archerslaons demonic
confidence and specific girl, i went through 6 days of the demonic confidence course, then something came up, so i
got to start it all over again. with specific girl, i havent found the right girl to try that on so i guess i have
to make time to use his stuff. His stuff seems more hands on to other stuff like his demonic confidence you have to
go out and do it for real, which is nerve racking but it is supposed to brings permanent results.
I have been
using much more stuff of extreme mind products att he moment though like ka and vanquisher. One thing i would
reccomend though is if someone wants to try a hypno tape get sphinx of imagination, its a total blast, r j swears
by it
while where on the topic of self improvement has any2 tried stuff by tom vizzini, i have just ordered 3d
mind
ck
TRock
02-10-2005, 02:30 PM
i just got over my fear of waking
up psychotic and bought the hypnotica cd. i usually end up falling a sleep and when i lay down to listento
something. hypnotic cd's communicate to the sub-concious and there's no need for active listening right?
slick
02-10-2005, 03:54 PM
just relax and listen to the tape,
there is no point to actively listen to every part of the tape because it is really complicated and trancy, it
usually puts me out after about 15 minutees of listening it, then i wake up in different parts of the story, u wont
regret getting that cd, its even better if u got a good pair of headphones
ck
Holmes
02-10-2005, 04:17 PM
i have archerslaons
demonic confidence and specific girl, i went through 6 days of the demonic confidence course, then something came
up, so i got to start it all over again. with specific girl, i havent found the right girl to try that on so i
guess i have to make time to use his stuff. His stuff seems more hands on to other stuff like his demonic
confidence you have to go out and do it for real, which is nerve racking but it is supposed to brings permanent
results.
I have been using much more stuff of extreme mind products att he moment though like ka and
vanquisher. One thing i would reccomend though is if someone wants to try a hypno tape get sphinx of imagination,
its a total blast, r j swears by it
How is Vanquisher?
TRock
02-10-2005, 06:06 PM
just relax and listen
to the tape, there is no point to actively listen to every part of the tape because it is really complicated and
trancy, it usually puts me out after about 15 minutees of listening it, then i wake up in different parts of the
story, u wont regret getting that cd, its even better if u got a good pair of headphones
ck
i just
read that you need to listen from headphones and from the cd it (uncompressed file) to get full effects. do good
headphones help you get better quality? if that was the case can i play it on my home entertainment system? i do
everything my mp3's nowadays. i wonder why you need to listen from the cd or is it just a clever excuse so people
won't rip the cd.
slick
02-11-2005, 11:47 AM
i dont think it matters if you
listen from your player as long as you got the original copy and u havent got it from copying it ffrom someone else.
A lot of these cds these days have hidden affirmations put into them saying that if you have a copy and not bought
it yourself you wont recieve the full benifits of the cd, dont no if it is true or not, but i wouldnt bother taking
the risk my self and anyways the cd is cheap
Vanquisher is great, i had to do a group presentation in my work
and i was not half as nervous as i usually am. They say if you listen to it to much though it changes you to
arrogant confidence and can make you violent
ck
slick
02-11-2005, 11:55 AM
i would get a good pair of
earphones though, i reccomend sennheiseri have the wirless ones, i think it seperates you from other noises in the
room and the quality is much better
Holmes
02-11-2005, 01:47 PM
iVanquisher is great,
i had to do a group presentation in my work and i was not half as nervous as i usually am. They say if you listen
to it to much though it changes you to arrogant confidence and can make you violent
ck
Whoa,
really? Must work pretty well.
How long was it before you noticed changes?
joseph956
02-11-2005, 02:26 PM
I don't know if it was just
me or the CD's, but I burned the free mp3's and have been listening to them for 2 days now.. usually right before
bed and into my sleep
Anyway, I have been noticing ALOT more stares and attention from women.. most notably
today during lunch, this younger looking girl stared at me from the moment she walked in to the moment I left, she
was with her family though (mom and sister) and I was with my co-workers (State Troopers) so I really couldn't do
anything about it, but she was being very obvious about her attraction. I wasn't wearing any pheros (waiting for
my Chikara) or any cologne for that matter... don't know but I'm listening to them again tonight. :)
j
TRock
02-14-2005, 10:16 PM
just relax and listen
to the tape, there is no point to actively listen to every part of the tape because it is really complicated and
trancy, it usually puts me out after about 15 minutees of listening it, then i wake up in different parts of the
story, u wont regret getting that cd, its even better if u got a good pair of headphones
ck
slick, can
i use ear buds or they don't reproduce sounds as good as regular headphones? what do you you?
TRock
02-14-2005, 10:37 PM
<LINK DELETED>not that i would try
to illegally download these files but....i admire myself for honesty, i admire myself because i'm honest, i feel
unstoppable when i do the right thing, i reject this program when it's been stolen. just to name a few. i'm gonna
be working in the corporate world, these hidden affirmations would result in self hate for me.and how can u help it
if somebody stole your cd's?
the free ware didn't have hidden affirmations did it?
InternationalPlayboy
02-15-2005, 07:01 AM
slick,
can i use ear buds or they don't reproduce sounds as good as regular headphones? what do you you?
I
think the most important thing in chosing headphones is the frequency response. Another company, Mind-Tek, which
offers similar products emphasized that the low end frequencies were more important than the high end.
Unfortunately, I can't find that data this morning on their website. Ear buds would probably be ok, better than
nothing, but compare the specs if shopping for them to make sure they can reproduce the lowest possible frequencies
at that price.
I prefer headphones that enclose the ear but use the clip-on type with no headband if I intend
to sleep in them, it makes it easier to lay on my side that way. I have noticed though, that I don't get as good of
a sound with them as I do with the "cup" type of headphone. Buds would probably be a little better the the clip-ons
but I don't find them comfortable for long periods of time.
slick
02-15-2005, 02:20 PM
Trock, if u ever consider getting
any of these sorts of programmes i would reccomend you get a high quality pair of enclosed headpones, sennheiser
are one of the best any brand will usually do, i have the wireless ones they cost me about £60 which is about $100
dollars i think. You will not get the full benifits out of normal headphones or earbuds as there are so many
frequencies and binarial beats to pick up. U can sometimes get bargains on ebay
Holmes, vanquisher started
working for me after a month, my confidence really started to soar, i then started to listen to it even more like on
playback all night when i went to sleep. I started getting really bad mood swings after that and i turned into a
bit of arragont jerk, so i have stopped using that for a while.
just to list a few of the affirmations on the
vanuisher cd are
i am worshiped
i am dominant
i am assertive
i am powerfull
i am loved
men follow
me
women worship me
i rule the world
listen to that to much and it does really start to kick in, with me
anyway it did, plus they have all these binural beats and embedded nlp and hypnosis stuff incorporated into it which
makes it a powerful combo
ck
InternationalPlayboy
02-16-2005, 08:21 AM
<LINK
DELETED> not that i would try to illegally download these files but....i admire myself for honesty, i admire myself
because i'm honest, i feel unstoppable when i do the right thing, i reject this program when it's been stolen.
just to name a few. i'm gonna be working in the corporate world, these hidden affirmations would result in self
hate for me.and how can u help it if somebody stole your cd's?
the free ware didn't have hidden
affirmations did it?
IMO, that's kind of a sad statement of your view of the business world. Business
can be run with honesty and integrity, look at Love Scent for example. Those who lie and cheat to get ahead reap
their own karma in the end.
TRock
02-16-2005, 09:34 AM
not to start a whole argument but
from friends that are already working, it's not a squeeky clean place. i don't have the luxury of having my own
business to do what i feel is right. it's like the current situation in baseball, use steroids to get had 100
million contract or settle being a 2nd tier player.
traderneil
02-18-2005, 11:39 AM
:cheers: I just want to acknowledge you for your xtrememind information post. I have downloaded all the free mp3s
and i have been using them for about a week and I do see and feel a difference. I am going to give them a test run
for about a month and then compare my notes to see if the changes actually did take place. I like them all and with
the babe I have been been seeing results already. So I want to thank you for sharing this great find....Traderneil
Las Vegas
IMO,
that's kind of a sad statement of your view of the business world. Business can be run with honesty and integrity,
look at Love Scent for example. Those who lie and cheat to get ahead reap their own karma in the
end.
Yes, business can be run with honesty and integrity, but that no longer applies to the huge
corporations. The mega corporations lie to their employees, to the government and to the public. Also, their
employees (not all of them) are liars and self promoting arrogant individuals that have no integrity or honesty.
:cheers: I just
want to acknowledge you for your xtrememind information post. I have downloaded all the free mp3s and i have been
using them for about a week and I do see and feel a difference. I am going to give them a test run for about a month
and then compare my notes to see if the changes actually did take place. I like them all and with the babe I have
been been seeing results already. So I want to thank you for sharing this great find....Traderneil Las
Vegas
I do not know what I am doing wrong, but I download the free stuff, put it on a CD and when I
try to listen to it I do not get any sound at all. Do I have to have headphones to hear the sound?
belgareth
02-18-2005, 03:15 PM
Yes, business can be
run with honesty and integrity, but that no longer applies to the huge corporations. The mega corporations lie to
their employees, to the government and to the public. Also, their employees (not all of them) are liars and self
promoting arrogant individuals that have no integrity or honesty.And that's why I left the corporate world
to start my own business! Not only do they lie to their employees but they expect all management people to adopt
their culture and ethics if you want to survive in their world.
InternationalPlayboy
02-19-2005, 02:10 PM
:cheers: I just want to acknowledge you for your xtrememind information post. I have downloaded
all the free mp3s and i have been using them for about a week and I do see and feel a difference. I am going to give
them a test run for about a month and then compare my notes to see if the changes actually did take place. I like
them all and with the babe I have been been seeing results already. So I want to thank you for sharing this great
find....Traderneil Las Vegas
Thanks traderneil. I'm glad this thread has been of interest. I made
the original post after downloading the files but hadn't listened to any at that point, so I wasn't sure how it
would go over.
Yes, business can be run with honesty and integrity, but that no longer applies
to the huge corporations. The mega corporations lie to their employees, to the government and to the public. Also,
their employees (not all of them) are liars and self promoting arrogant individuals that have no integrity or
honesty.
After making that reply to TRock, I got to thinking about my own experience. I work for one
of the largest defense contractors in the country. When I first got hired on (twenty years ago next month :eek: ) I
worked for a small company that treated their people well. Through a series of buyouts and hostile takeovers, I now
work for the huge conglomerate, though the job is essentially the same as it was at the beginning. Two years ago, I
had been looking forward to my 20 year anniversay. We got to pick a gift out of a catalog for our milestone
anniversaries and I had my eye on a cool telescope. Now that we are part of this huge corp and under their rules,
the gifts have gone away and I get a gold plated pin with diamond chips on it. That will probably be thrown in a
drawer, never to be seen again. I mean, I had a ring custom made that cost more than my first two cars combined,
whay should I care about some gold plated piece of flash metal? With the former company, when we achieved
recoginition by a customer, we got a plaque and a cash award. Now we get a laser printed piece of paper and a
keychain. I now feel I am just a drone and actually feel more of an employee of and have more loyalty to the
government facility I work at than the Borg they call a corporation that electronically deposits my pay. (I was
going to say "sign my paychecks" but that hasn't happened in a decade or so.) Too bad we don't get the same perks
and especially the early retirement buyout option as a contractor that the civil service folks do.
I came
across a philosophy in the mid 1980s that I subscribed to for awhile called Neo-Tech. It was based on Any Rand's
writings and claimed to have "totally integrated honesty." Interesting stuff and I still think some of it is valid,
but I started to have problems with myself integrating it into my job while working for the government and seeing
the "neocheating" that went on with both the government and my own company. I ended up on tranquilizers and finally
bringing some "mysticisim" back into my life to cope.
So my apologies to TRock, I didn't mean to jump on
your case and hope I didn't come across too harsh. I still feel though, that those honesty suggestions in the
Xtrememind recordings would be more helpful than harmful in life.
I do not know what I am
doing wrong, but I download the free stuff, put it on a CD and when I try to listen to it I do not get any sound at
all. Do I have to have headphones to hear the sound?
You should be able to hear them through regular
speakers, but to get the "brainwashing" effects from the binaural beats and other techniques used in the recordings,
headphones are necessary.
Those are MP3 files, were you able to listen to them directly from your computer?
My CD burning software has an option of recording either an audio CD or a data CD. Maybe you recorded them as
straight MP3 files instead if converting them to the format for playing on a home CD player.
traderneil
02-19-2005, 03:57 PM
:thumbsup: The way I downloaded the mp3 was to go on xtreme site and right click on the spinning cd and then save
to target.This transfers the file to your computer. If you are using microsoft media player,you can go to the third
icon that says burn to cd. Insert a blank cdrw in the drive and you will get a split screen.one will show the file
playing and the other will say record. Hit record, plug in your headphones,choose your skin (I like the fountain).
In a short time you will have your recording to play in your cd player as well as your personal copy on your pc.Try
it youl like it.!!! Traderneil Las Vegas (PS go to download.com if you need any other files their free)
:thumbsup: The way
I downloaded the mp3 was to go on xtreme site and right click on the spinning cd and then save to target.This
transfers the file to your computer. If you are using microsoft media player,you can go to the third icon that says
burn to cd. Insert a blank cdrw in the drive and you will get a split screen.one will show the file playing and the
other will say record. Hit record, plug in your headphones,choose your skin (I like the fountain). In a short time
you will have your recording to play in your cd player as well as your personal copy on your pc.Try it youl like
it.!!! Traderneil Las Vegas (PS go to download.com if you need any other files their free)
OK,
this worked! Thanks!
TRock
02-24-2005, 10:07 PM
so i have the hypnotica cd. i
listened to it 3 times so far. how often should i listen to it? 1 thing i notice is that after listening to it the
1st time, i got sticking points in my game identified. i knew about these sticking points but it was like my
subconcious wouldn't let it come to the surface.
a weird thing that is freaking me out kinda is, i set the
winamp so that it won't loop the cd so i don't end up tranced out twice. but it's still looping, i can't explain
why the cd still loops but i'm sure it's just a glitch with winamp.
Gegogi
02-24-2005, 10:28 PM
"Another company,
Mind-Tek, which offers similar products emphasized that the low end frequencies were more important than the high
end. Unfortunately, I can't find that data this morning on their website. Ear buds would probably be ok, better
than nothing, but compare the specs if shopping for them to make sure they can reproduce the lowest possible
frequencies at that price."
Actually the most important frequencies for human hearing are found in
the midrange. Humans are the most sensitive to the quality of midrange sounds. It makes sense because that is where
the human voice and the most important parts of music lie. We are far less sensitive to bass and treble quality. If
the mids are up front, sweet and clear, the bass and trebles will always seem to sound better.
The best
headphones I have ever used are the Sennheiser HD600: accurate, clear, natural and full range. They're also the
most comfortable 'phones known to man. If you can't afford them, the Sennheiser HD580 sound and feel nearly as
good for only $200.
CptKipling
02-25-2005, 08:51 AM
I thinks it's saying that low
frequencies are useful for this specific application.
InternationalPlayboy
02-25-2005, 03:41 PM
I
thinks it's saying that low frequencies are useful for this specific application.
Right Captain,
that's the way I understand it, at least for Mind-Tek products. It's not for listening pleasure, such as listening
to music, but the low frequencies are most important for entrainment of the brain into a trance-like state.
I
broke down and ordered MLF da Babe and MLF da Money. Just received them a couple of hours ago but haven't listened
to either yet. It took two weeks to receive them after ordering. I wasn't the one who accepted the package but I
noticed some kind of shipping label from "EMS International World-wide Postal Courier Network." Didn't think
anything of it, but was kind of peeved that it looked like someone had slit the package open with a razor
blade.
I was leaving the house so after opening the package I set it aside and just got back to it. I just
noticed that under the shipping lable are a bunch of Philipine stamps and on the back is green tape with a
Department of Homeland Security seal on it! :eek:
So I guess the package was opened for inspection (perhaps
because of the country of origin?) and the slob who sliced it open cut completely through the package but only
sealed the back cut.
Damn terrorists. Damn cops. They sure make life complicated anymore.
Anyway,
I'll give my impressions on the CDs after using them for awhile. I was all set to order their "Psychic Seduction"
download last night to play with while I was waiting for these to arrive. Since I had ordered these two CDs I felt
I'm entitled to the 20% discount offered to returning customers, but they didn't send it in the confirmation
emails, so I haven't ordered the download yet. Now that I finally have da Babe and da Money, I will probably wait
awhile to get anything else. At least until I can get them to send me the passcode.
slick
02-26-2005, 12:26 AM
I have phsyic seduction playboy,
ive been using it for a while and i am getting good results. If you join the ultimate seduction yahoo group you
will get a lot of the techniques from that book for free, a lot of them are newer and improved.
Let me know
what u think of mlf babe once youve heard it, would like to know what u think. Also jobet is creating a pheromone
generator cd soon so that should be interesting.
ck
Gegogi
02-26-2005, 01:31 AM
"I thinks it's saying
that low frequencies are useful for this specific application."
And that's exactly why you want a
pair of quality full range headphones like the Sennheiser HD600. The lows are clear, tight and fully executed--way
better than Sony's best Earbuds (e.g., MDR-NC11). Of course, when you get tired of the "da Babe" CD you can kick
back with some dangerously vivid tunes.
satyrboy
02-26-2005, 12:20 PM
Related but different:
For
those of you who are strung out, feeling overdominant from listening to vanquisher propaganda, or otherwise just
interested in learning how you can use your mind in different ways:
Journey to the wild divine is a biofeedback
game. You put your fingers into a device that monitors temp/heart rate and galvanic skin response. You manipulate
the gaming environment purely by your thought processes, not by using a joystick, keyboard or other input device.
The game has a sorta mystical/spiritual feel that may turn some folks off, but overally it's very enjoyable and
relaxing.
Holmes
03-16-2005, 03:38 PM
InternationalPlayboy or anyone
else,
Do you know anything about Alex Armani (as in, is he any good)?
I recently bought a couple of
his hypnosis CDs off of eBay. They were dirt-cheap, so I figured what the heck. He uses double induction/dual
binaural beats/brain-talk just like everyone else, but I'd never heard of him before...
Mtnjim
03-16-2005, 06:03 PM
"He uses double induction/dual
binaural beats/brain-talk just like everyone else,..."
Uhmmmm.
Could someone translate that into english for
me??
THANKS
InternationalPlayboy
03-17-2005, 06:59 AM
InternationalPlayboy or anyone else,
Do you know anything about Alex Armani (as in, is he any
good)?
I haven't heard about him myself and a quick web search of that name only turned up a
photographer. I have a friend that's a certified hypnotist. I'll try to remember to ask her if she's ever heard
of the guy when I see her at the end of next month.
Couldn't find him on eBay either as I guess you can only
search by user Ids.
"He uses double induction/dual binaural beats/brain-talk just like
everyone else,..."
Uhmmmm.
Could someone translate that into english for
me??
THANKS
Binaural beats are frequencies generated that help to "entrain" the mind into a
trance-like state. I found a link (http://www.av3x.com/DigitalMeditation2-DualBinauralBeats.htm) here that
explains them.
As for double induction and brain-talk, those are new ones to me. Apparently "brain-talk" is a
trademarked process of some kind. I found a few websites offering CDs that feature this but couldn't find an
explanation as what it exactly was.
This (http://www.hypnodean.com/Self%20Hypnosis.htm) website
gives a small explanation of double induction:
DOUBLE INDUCTION sets these apart as each set
generally includes a DOUBLE INDUCTION metaphoric story, a form of metaphoric hypnosis so powerful that it helps even
those who have a hard time reaching trance enter an enjoyable and effective trance state. You will hear TWO stories
simultaneously , one in each ear and bedazzled at this amazing recording process. We are one of about three people
in the WORLD doing these types of recordings.
It's basically what I suspected it to be. I don't
know about the claim of only three people in the world doing this technique as it sounds very similar to Paul
Scheele's "Paraliminal" technique that he sells through
Learning Strategies (http://www.learningstrategies.com/Paraliminal/Home.html). I have used his tapes and
thoguh I find them kind of entertaining, I can't say that I've had any noticable breakthroughs compared to
entrainment methods. At least with the binaural beats, I usually finding myslef losing consciousness at the
beginning of a session and awakening just as it ends. So that shows me that at least the "trance" claims are valid
in my situation.
Pancho1188
03-18-2005, 06:45 AM
I listened to that
three-minute demo twice, and I came in this morning and ended up flirting with someone/having someone flirt with me.
I can't tell if that's coincidence or what, but I couldn't tell you the last time I flirted with someone.
"Wow, that's pretty messed up."
--- Hypnotist, Office Space
InternationalPlayboy
03-19-2005, 03:29 PM
Interesting post
Pancho. I've noticed something similar. I bought the full version of da Babe, along with da Money. I find myself
greeting women in the hallways at work regularly now, even the ones I've ignored before. And my heart doesn't jump
out of my chest when I see one that I have an attraction to.
Now this is purely coincidental, but since I
started listening to the two programs, they have hired two women and moved them into my office. Well actually the
adjoining office with my boss, but we share the same locked doors. Part of the changes that promped this hiring has
given my boss new duties, so I may be in line for a job title promotion as I will be taking over some of his, which
will mean more pay.
I may even get my own minion now. The office arrangement is just temporary though. Word
is that my boss and I will have to move once again to make room for the new people. :mad:
Things like this
have fallen through before, so I'm not holding my breath, but I need to keep my attitude up and continue working on
my confidence to help this come to fruition. I really don't want the added responsability and stress that will go
with it, but I do need the money.
Not that I'm really interested in an office romance either, but the two
new women will make it more worthwile to play with mones at work.
real_wiseman
03-28-2005, 01:28 PM
I have DL the freebie Mp3,
but haven't had the time to listen to it yet.
I have some questions for you guys. (I tried the Xtrememind
board, but got no reply):
I have used the Hemi-Sync CDs <LINK DELETED> for relaxing. As I have an Mp3-player I
figured I could convert the tracks to mp3 and use my smaller mp3-player instead of my bulky CD-player, but the
hemi-sync noise patterns, ie the binaurual beats were destroyed by the mp3-algorithm and the relaxing effect was
gone.
If the MLF tha Babe also uses Binaural beats, wouldn't it be useless in mp3 (as in the freebie?) as
well?
// w
Holmes
03-28-2005, 02:01 PM
Good question. I purchased one of
the "instantly downloadable" mp3 programs. The effect seems to be the same as a CD, but now I'm not so sure.
:D
On another note, I've just bought the Reality Matrix, Kundalini Activator (white-violet
charge) and Vanquisher (red charge) programs. Will keep you posted as to any progress.
InternationalPlayboy
03-28-2005, 02:54 PM
Good
question. I purchased one of the "instantly downloadable" mp3 programs. The effect seems to be the same as a
CD, but now I'm not so sure. :D
On another note, I've just bought the Reality Matrix, Kundalini
Activator (white-violet charge) and Vanquisher (red charge) programs. Will keep you posted as to any
progress.
I've been interested in the Kundalini one but an expensive car repair on the credit card
has put it on hold for a while. Let me know what you think of it.
I bought the Psychic Seduction download
last week. My problem is that you have to concentrate on the visualizations and either my mind wanders or I keep
falling asleep or losing consciousness during them. It's kind of a cool exercise if you can stay conscious though.
I couldn't tell you though, if it differs from the CD as I didn't spring the extra money for the CD.
Pancho1188
03-28-2005, 03:03 PM
Does anyone else think that
the guy's voice on that MLF MP3 is not the type you want to have sending you these types of messages? Besides the
"comfortable" position I'm supposed to be getting into during them, it's just not the type of voice I think
I want in my head. Maybe it's just me.
Holmes
03-28-2005, 03:12 PM
I personally wouldn't give a shit
if Cheech Marin were doing the talking, as long as the messages were on target and they got the hell in there.
InternationalPlayboy
03-28-2005, 03:23 PM
Does anyone else think that the guy's voice on that MLF MP3 is not the type you want to have
sending you these types of messages? Besides the "comfortable" position I'm supposed to be getting into
during them, it's just not the type of voice I think I want in my head. Maybe it's just me.
I do
chuckle at the pronounciation of "comfortable." I'm not sure of his nationality, but the "da Babe" CD set was
shipped from the Philippines. Extreme mind itself is based out of England. I would rather hear a sexy woman's voice
but the guy's doesn't bother me.
Pancho1188
03-28-2005, 03:25 PM
That's my point. The thing
about the brain is that you have to accept the messages. Would you accept something if you didn't like how it was
being sent? Probably not. Also, a voice that puts you in the correct mindset also helps. That's why the voice tries
to be soothing...if David Draiman belted out suggestive messages, I'm not sure how effective they'd be. I was just
wondering if anyone else thought what I was thinking. That's why I don't make my own tape...I'd be like, "Dude,
this guy's voice sucks. I'm not listening to him! Wait, that's my voice..."
I'm going to keep listening,
though. Beggars can't be choosers...
If David Draiman did a seduction MP3:
Another dream that you
begin to believe
Just to get more girls tomorrow
Another love that she's giving to you
A gift to add to your
charm and suave flirting
To hide the truth, you should always believe
Will cripple you completely
All the lies
will just increase your fear
You are the guy that the girls are hiring
Let me enlighten you
This is to
meditate
Women can't even get enough
Turn me so hot inside
Breathing so your lungs get enough
Let your cares
melt away
Holmes
03-28-2005, 03:44 PM
True, you do have to accept the
guy's delivery. I was just saying that, at this point, I'd take the messages if they were covered in moose turds,
with Yoko Ono screaming in the background.
Why they didn't use a female voice (to which the male brain would
undoubtedly be more receptive), however, is beyond me.
slick
03-28-2005, 03:58 PM
The blokes name who does mlf da
babe is jobet, he is a certified hynotherapist and nlp practitioner. There was talk a while ago on the xtreme mind
forum that his voice is not the most apealling, and he did admit it, but the reason he gave is he did not want to
train someone up to do it as he wanted to put in all the embedded commands and hypnotic nlp language in himself, to
make sure everything is correct.
tim929
03-28-2005, 04:46 PM
Real wiseman...the effectivness
of a given audio track will depend alot on the equipment used to record it,transfer it and then play it back.If you
put it on tape and used a crapy tape player to listen to it it will loose alot of quality...and therefor...it's
effect.Just like high quality music played on a crapy system,or worse...recorded with a crapy system and then played
back on an equaly crapy system.Making car keys is very similar...a copy of a copy of a copy most likely wont unlock
your door...
Pancho1188
03-28-2005, 04:53 PM
The blokes name
who does mlf da babe is jobet, he is a certified hynotherapist and nlp practitioner. There was talk a while ago on
the xtreme mind forum that his voice is not the most apealling, and he did admit it, but the reason he gave is he
did not want to train someone up to do it as he wanted to put in all the embedded commands and hypnotic nlp language
in himself, to make sure everything is correct.
You've gotta respect that.
I can't help but think
of Kevin Nealon in Adam Sandler's skit, The Hypnotist, on his CD, "What the hell happened to me?" because
Kevin Nealon actually has a good voice for hypnotism, and it's funny for the skit.
bindy
03-28-2005, 09:20 PM
I don't know anything about these
seduction CDs, but I can tell you that I've used various CDs from the Monroe Institute, and some of them are
amazing. They won't ruin your brain, at least I don't think so, but they do induce a mood. Also, our son has
ADHD, and his therapist had him listening to the EASe CDs, which are basically the same thing brain entrainment,
changes the brainwaves to a more relaxed state, but only for short periods of time. The idea is that he'll get to
know how it feels to have that calm brain, and change his brainwaves himself, or control them. It had modest
success. I think if it can boost your confidence, why not give it a try.
Bindy
I've used Xtrememind Cds for the
past month or so. The desired effects didn't fully manifest yet, but the sensations and tingles that I feel while
using Kundalini and Cosmic shield are pretty amazing. And I definitely get mentally super-energized after each KA
sessions.
As for Vanquisher, I've only used it for the last three days. SO, it's too early to tell what it's
like. But the subliminal messages contained within sound truly like the ultimate ego boost.
They've got a
phobia killer program called Warrior Extreme out of late. I've used it daily for the last 2 weeks or so. As for the
result, it's still inconclusive.
Lastly, da Babe. Yes, I concur that Jobet's voice is less than appealing,
Certainly less so than Ashleigh in Archersloan team. (I got some profound result out of her Seduction 101 induction
CDs, by the way. But only after 7 long weeks of listening to them almost religiously) Anyway, I've listened to his
da Babe CD for the last 23 days, and the expansion pack during the day time.
Naturally, I was looking
foraward to the causal engineering factor in action, but nothing happened so far out of the ordinary. The only
difference I could feel at the moment is that I became much cockier than before, which can be attributed to other
things. So, I PMd him asking whether it's wise to persevere longer with da Babe.
It could be his voice,
his manner of induction. Could be anything that my lack of success with the CD can be attributed to. But other
users found the CD effective. So, I might belong to a minority camp here.
I'am currently waiting for
Ashleigh's Naked Girl locker room talk CDs. This self-development and seduction skill business is truly becoming my
no.1 pastime and major investment these days.
Will keep you guys posted when there's any breakthrough with
any of these CD courses.
Max
real_wiseman
03-29-2005, 01:02 AM
Apart from Hemi-Sync I have
also used a CD that came bundled with the paperback edition of the book "Change your life in 7 days" by Paul McKenna
and Paul has a tremendous voice for hypnosis and it work very good on me.
I listened very briefly to the
"freebie-mp3" this morning and I must agree with everybody else that this guys voice perhaps is not entirely suited
for this type of recording.
True, it's not entirely in the voice of course so I will give it a shot anyway,
just to compare.
I recommend the CD by McKenna (undoubtely he has more recordings but I am not familiar with
these) , not for dating purposes perhaps, but to boost your self-esteem and feeling good about yourself.
//
W
Yup, McKenna is a BIG fish in the uk
NLP and hypnosis scene. I agree with you Real Wiseman that Paul has a very hypnotic voice. Never gave his product
serious try, though.
He holds NLP seminars in London. If you go to purenlp.com, you can get more info on the
guy and his various CD courses and seminars. Not focused on seduction and sex like RJ or Wendi, but I trust that his
CDs worked wonders for some.
So, how long did iit take til you experienced the desired effect?
Max
real_wiseman
03-29-2005, 02:14 AM
Yup, McKenna is a
BIG fish in the uk NLP and hypnosis scene. I agree with you Real Wiseman that Paul has a very hypnotic voice. Never
gave his product serious try, though.
He holds NLP seminars in London. If you go to purenlp.com, you can get more
info on the guy and his various CD courses and seminars. Not focused on seduction and sex like RJ or Wendi, but I
trust that his CDs worked wonders for some.
So, how long did iit take til you experienced the desired effect?
Max
From McKenna?
Almost from the start.
As I had previously just used Hemi-Sync I was a little
nervous about the whole hypnosis "thing", but it was a very good experience IMHO.
First I thought that he used
some sort of "hemi-sync-like noise" since I "zoned out" quite quickly into some sort of altered state, but I don't
think he uses it, at least not on that particular CD.
I must check out the website you mentioned btw...
EDIT:
Found the website of Paul McKenna:
<LINK DELETED>
Should have thought of that...
The book I have
is the book on the far right on that webpage btw...
// W
slick
03-29-2005, 03:50 AM
hi max, where did u get the
ashleigh Seduction 101 induction CDs, was it of ebay or did u do it through archer, what are they like, are they
similiar to mlf da babe, the only things i have of archer is specific girl,, dc and destroy her foundation. i hear
that he will have a website running up soon.
cheers
HI, Slick. I got it thru Archer. Paid
like $149 for 4 CD set. It hasn't got any of the binaural beats of any kind. No nature sound either. It's just
Ashleigh talking, doing hypnotic inductions, to be exact.
First Cd is Charisma, second Confidence Boost, third
Goal Integration, and the fourth Subconscious Control. Each CD runs for 34 to 35 minutes.
Though they have no
hi-tech anything in them, the way Ashleigh defines each theme in detail in almost endless loops is definitely very
hypnotic. For the first few weeks I found it very hard to stay awake longer than 15 minutes. I stay awake towards
the very end of Da Babe over 80% of the time, by the way.
Ashleigh's description of each theme is much more
creative and vivid. And each CD makes abundantly clear what the title REALLY means in great detail.
She said
listen to all 4 CDs at least once a day OR MORE for 5 weeks, and I'd be much surprised. Well, not in 5 weeks, but I
persisted 2 more weeks 'cause the CDs sounded so soothing and hypnotic that I probably got addicted to them.
Didn't care if they worked or not.
And one day, I suddenly felt different! The amount of negative inner
dialogue decreased dramatically. I thought it's just one of the days thing. BUT the same state remained for the
next 5 weeks or so, during which time what was recorded on those CDs, the first 3 CDs at least, sound very TRUE,
which initially sounded like Sci-fi at first.
I just e-mailed Ashleigh to find out about the 'recharging'
routine, because I feel the effects are not as intense as before.
Yeah, I broke down and bought DC and SG,
CHS as well. But Seduction 101 is the only product I can attest to at the moment, 'cause the others are just
shelved right now.
One more thing, I also got the Kahuna Reality Control from Moses K. Gave it a try, but the
instructions on his CDs were too vague for me to grasp.
Hope this helps.
Max
slick
03-29-2005, 07:47 AM
thanks a lot max, i think im gonna
give them a try, that is if he has any left
The only problem with me is i havent got enough time in the day to
listen to them all.
what im using at the moment are
KA, been using it for about 6 months so far, not sure if
ive got much to report but i do find the need for less sleep
vanquisher, havent listened to that for a while but
it did make me more aggresive, kind of arragont sometimes- i used it once while weightlifting and my strength
increased by a lot, i could lift a lot heavier
Warrior extreme - have had it for 2 weeks, cant really report
anything so far with that, but im using it for more confidence around women
sphinx of imagination- one of the
best cd's ive had, makes my head and thoughts a lot clearer.
mlf da babe - use it every morning, i feel a lot
more flirting while using that with different women
ive have recenly bought 3dmind by tom vinzinni also, havent
tried to use that yet though
People saying the cds at learning strategies are also good also particularly the
new history generator and the self esteem cd, any1 tried their stuff?
Holmes
03-29-2005, 08:14 AM
KA, been using it for
about 6 months so far, not sure if ive got much to report but i do find the need for less sleep
And
you've got the orange charge, right?
I guess some of us including myself
are very serious self-help junkies. I've heard some wonderful things about LSC as well. If I were you, Slick, I'd
go for LSC CDs as they are much more affordably-priced and less taxing on your daily CD listening routine.
You
can always check back Archersloan site later, and try Seduction 101 when you have more free time to spare. More than
2 hours everyday for the 101 course, believe me, is very arduous to say the least. And you'll have 3D Mind and
Xtrememind CDs on top of that to explore. IMHO, they'll just wear you out, mate.
Lets keep one another
informed as to the effectiveness of different products on the market.
As for sphinx, well, it put me to sleep
very fast. But other than that, it's almost impossible for me to pinpoint what area of my life it helped me
yet.
Cheers
Max
surfs_up
03-29-2005, 08:39 AM
I posted this link last year. It looks at the history of NLP, Richard Bandler, and more or
less how this hypnotic behavior mod business came into being... you would be well advised to read this through, to
understand the "presuppositions", as John Grinder used to stress in his lectures....
FWIW, I studied with all
the first generation NLP grandfather figures, often up clse and personal in small seminar settings, long before
Anthony Robbins was incarnated as mister man of all human potential....
<LINK DELETED>
if that doesn't work
try:
<LINK DELETED>
InternationalPlayboy
03-29-2005, 03:04 PM
I
posted this link last year. It looks at the history of NLP, Richard Bandler, and more or less how this hypnotic
behavior mod business came into being... you would be well advised to read this through, to understand the
"presuppositions", as John Grinder used to stress in his lectures....
FWIW, I studied with all the first
generation NLP grandfather figures, often up clse and personal in small seminar settings, long before Anthony
Robbins was incarnated as mister man of all human potential....
<LINK DELETED>
if that doesn't work try:
<LINK DELETED>
Interesting article surfs_up. Sounds like the coke and alcohol had a big influence
on his behavior. I remember my psychology teacher telling us that people get into psychology as a profession as they
are trying to figure out why they are so screwed up. It seems that once he discovered this form of manipulating
others, it became a power trip.
So do you think this takes away from the validity of NLP? Truthfully, I'm not
too familar with it, except for the name. From the "reprogramming the mind" aspect, it doesn't sound much different
than something like Psycho Cybernetics, which also compared the mind to a computer. But that's basically used to
change your own behavior, not that of others.
It's interesting how so many of these "cult" figures have a
downfall and yet their following goes on. I used to work with a guy who belonged to a branch of the church started
by Aimee Semple McPherson. Even though she eventually "sinned" by leaving her husband for another man, the church
still prospers. And I used to know a woman online who could say nothing wrong about Osho, otherwise known as Bhagwan
Shree Rajneesh.
Now I realize that these are religious leaders, but the behavioral modification field can be
rather cultish itself. Look at EST, didn't Erhard have some kind of scandal too? And Tony Robbins has quite a
following, though I could never get into him myself. And I kind of am in a cult myself, through my meditation
practice. The founder of the system is an Eastern Indian Guru from the same lineage that Paramahansa Yogananda of
the Self-Realization Fellowship is from. Most of us who practice his medtations are trying to bring prosperity into
our lives and learned about him through Wayne Dyer, who could be considered another cult figure.
surfs_up
03-29-2005, 03:44 PM
Werner Erhard was a guy who had gone through a whole laundry list of names, from Jack Frost to Kurt Wilhelm von
Savage, beginning with his real name, John Rosenberg, wasn't the epitome of mental balance in the final analysis.
Lot of people thought he was God for a while, some still do. Saw the expose on 60 Minutes, the footage of his ummm,
lectures to the faithful looked nutty as a fruitcake. Back in the 70s EST was the hottest thing going, mucho sexual
hooking up through the seminars, nonsense EST lingo sprouting up everywhere, I guess we could forgive almost
anything in the name of transformative technology. Then the NLP thing came along, better tech than EST all around,
it was very hot, cooking on all burners when Tony Robbins picked it up and ran with it. Tony amped it up, watered it
down, added the rock and roll show context, Tony had the charisma to pull off the star gig in a way that Werner
Erhard was, dunno, he just didn't have the same incandescence, I think in the back of his mind he realized that he
couldn't compete in the same game as Tony so he packed it in, hounded by some very dark rumors that have never been
adequately explained (like, he never sued the CBS producers for their story, CBS never retracted their story, and he
comes up wwith this weird explanation that he's not persuing the case to protect his family's privacy... and he
stays out of US jurisdiction ever since....hmmmm.....)
Which leaves us where ? I guess you have to be careful
about your expectations for "like magic" quickie solutions, instant mental reprogramming, one size fits all gurus
and cheezy philosophies that are supposed to make sense of life.
Everybody was looking for the instant
answer, they got taken to the cleaners again and again, there was no secret formula or decoder ring, it was easy to
talk the talk and hard to walk the walk...
surfs_up
03-29-2005, 03:55 PM
"More up-in-your-face was the bold stunt performed by an ex-catholic who, in 1950, with the coöperation
of a band of Lettrists, caught, gagged, stripped and bound a priest before the Easter High Mass, put on his
vestments, and stepped to the pulpit to declare to the congregation, "Brothers, God is dead" and to outline what
this was going to mean for the poor, misguided souls. According to one account, "[s]everal minutes passed before the
congregation actually registered what was happening. He managed to escape out of the back of the cathedral but the
congregation caught up with him on the quai where they proceeded to try to lynch him. The Lettrist, alas, was forced
to surrender to the police in order to save his neck."
Interesting story, Surfs up. I too
attended EST for a quick fix in the early 90's, which then was running by the name of Lanmark Forum. Pretty
disappointed soon after the punchline, but people there were all talking about instant Satori and Enlightenment with
tears streaming down their cheeks. What a freak show it was!
And there's this intruiging fella we can't miss
out, L Ron Hubbard. The Sci-fi author turning into a cult leader of Scientology. Very colorful personality all
around this guy.
Max
Pancho1188
03-29-2005, 07:10 PM
I
remember my psychology teacher telling us that people get into psychology as a profession as they are trying to
figure out why they are so screwed up.
That about sums it up. Then again, who doesn't have problems?
I think it's funny that the guy used the same explanation eventually used in Seinfeld that psychologists (doctors
in the episode) make money off of you having problems, so they want to keep you sick as long as they can. It's
ironic that these people say that the hard working men and women of the medical/psychological profession try to scam
you...when they're trying to scam you.
kappakai
04-26-2005, 07:11 AM
Does anyone have any information
about the Ken Mass NLP/Subliminal CDs? I've seen them for sale cheap on eBay. Cheap, what a magical word...
<LINK DELETED>
joseph956
04-26-2005, 08:53 AM
So what would a chap like me
have to do to become the next Yoda? lol,
seriously, this is ALOT of information to take in and alot of
contrasting views of what works and what doesn't.. I know the best lessons lie in trial and error, but not being
the richest man in history,
what would the masses recommend for self-help, motivation, seduction? So far I see
that the above link (kenmass.com) has the most affordable prices..
j
My follow-up reports in regard to
MLFs and Xtrememind CD courses,
Well, I returned both MLFs for obvious reasons. I also got a refund on all
Extrememind CDs minus Cosmic Shield. I kept it 'cause I'd like to do that instead of my Pillar of Light HUNA
ritual.
BTW, I found the LSC Paraliminals really helpful. The best CD courses I've experienced so far.
They're affordably-priced and very clinical in their approach. I'd recommend New History Generator, Anxiety free
and Self Esteem Supercharger.
As for Ashleigh's Seduction 101 effects, well, the rush's gone, I'm afraid.
I know for a fact that it can be recharged if I gave it a few more listens, but at the moment, I'm preoccupied with
LSC CDs as I got the whole library deal.
Max
Stache
04-29-2005, 10:25 AM
I'm a dabbler in NLP & Hypnosis,
and I've started exploring some of these CDs.
Ken Mass--I got his 2 CD set on rapport skills. It's a lecture &
Workbook & it's excellent (& cheap).
I tried Archer Sloan's Pheremone CD for about a month. It may have been
somewhat effective, but I just couldn't listen to it any more.
I've gotten a few of Major Mark Cunningham's
CDs, which many people swear by. <LINK DELETED>
My faves are from<LINK DELETED>For me (it's highly subjective)
these bring me deepest into trance & have mosr immediate effects. Plus they're free downloads, although donations
are accepted.
I'm currently dabbling with CDs from<LINK DELETED>Not sure about results yet.
Sonne
04-29-2005, 10:30 PM
I have a litle dout, it works with
people who don´t speack english or english learners ?
itwow
11-16-2005, 12:57 AM
Patented, Measurable, Subliminals
CDs, in 16 languages of choice
< Link deleted>
XtremeMind
CDs uses a different wavelength (hybrid/pseudo) that does not infringe on the patent. Patent expires next year.
itwow
11-28-2005, 01:24 AM
@belgareth
Please kindly
advise me on why the link I posted was deleted when there are other active links on every page of this thread. Is
there something wrong or did I violate any forum rules by posting this way? Thanks.
Bruce
11-28-2005, 03:46 AM
itwow,
It's best to PM
either Bel or Oscar with questions like that; saves bandwidth. I'll leave your question up, so folks can get a
refresher on that though.
B
belgareth
11-28-2005, 04:17 AM
Itwow and everybody else:
It is and always has been a forum policy that advertising links are not allowed. If you post a link to a site that
is selling some product it will be deleted. Well, providing we catch it. We are human and do miss things. Had you
asked any one of the moderators or the owner of the site in advance you would have known that.
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