View Full Version : OD, really useful questions!
gfunk
01-18-2005, 05:07 PM
Hia peoples! :wave:
I'm a newly returned member, lost my
login-details, but have meanwhile been using pheros to GREAT SUCCESS, mainly AE, for a couple years now. 30yrs, from
Europe, with fairly good looks.
Recently I bought some new products, SOE unscented bottle, and PI unscented
bottle. So I got really nice results, but finally I think I OD'd. had three drops of PI on friday, added 8 short
lines of SOE on Saturday. And since I had read somewhere on this forum that you're not too likely to OD on SOE, I
continued on Sunday to do a new three drops of PI, and 6 short lines of SOE. This led to a "why isn't anything
happening" -feeling. T'was prolly the PI.
So my questions are:
When you have OD'd, are you actually
dragged down "lower" than your normal state of socialness/attractiveness? Seems to me, or is it that I'm just not
used to "not having th effect?".
What about the day after OD'ing, are you then sinking back to the level
where the pheros will start to work effectively, and hopefully max again? I mean, I did get a couple signs on this
day.
PS! On this long time period using only AE, I've found that my absolute max
effect dosage is four drops, and even better if I've applied the same two days before. I only use phero's when I
know that I'm going out, or go places where I can score. And I usually do! :)
Friendly1
01-18-2005, 06:03 PM
It sounds like you may have
triggered an adrenaline OD, which I believe can be induced by an Androstenone OD. For me, the Androstenone ODs tend
to make me angry and defensive. I only noticed a different emotional state after touching up with APC one day
during an Androstenone OD. The APC actually helped me calm down. People said I was a totally different person
after that touchup.
So, if your emotional state ranged unchecked for long enough, it does sound like you'd feel
something like an emotional down.
JasonLJS
01-18-2005, 09:22 PM
[QUOTE=Friendly1]I only noticed
a different emotional state after touching up with APC one day during an Androstenone OD. The APC actually helped me
calm down. People said I was a totally different person after that touchup.QUOTE]
Strange that you mentioned
this, I didn't realize it till I read your statement. Just last week I started covering up the TE I use with APC
and I noticed that my mood was higher then when I just wear the TE without APC. This happened a couple days last
week. I could just have been in a good mood all week, not sure. I will continue to try this out and get back to
you.
APC makes it harder for the edge
pheromones to get to your nose and make you feel irritable.
Friendly1
01-19-2005, 07:03 AM
I agree with bjf. The APC has
a lower concentration of pheromones, but it has a good strong oil base. It also has what I find to be a pleasant
scent, so coating the pheromones to slow down the release and introducing a new, "calm" scent helped calm me down on
my OD.
I often touchup with APC now, especially when I am piling on the pheromones.
gfunk
01-19-2005, 10:35 AM
Erhhh.... :rofl: I have'nt a
clue of what you're talking about. Sorry my engruish is really bad, I didn't mean depressed. I meant, as in the
case with an OD, you won't get hits as you will increasingly get when you wear pheros in the right amount.
What I really meant was, do you get less atractive in womens eyes when od'ing than you would without using any
phero's at all? Do you understand me? I have read that people can get angry if you use too much in some cases, To
rephrase, If I want to use phero's to increase the hits, but miss and od, will the effect be a decrease from my
unphero'd ""condition"? Is condition a better word?
:kiss:
pizzaro
01-19-2005, 01:20 PM
Hi,
I am quite new to this
forum as well.
I have read through the posts the last days and as far as I could point it out:
Yes you get less
atractive when overdosing.
People say that the girls avoid you or throw you bad looks like for example:"what do you
want here?".
OK with the avoiding thing, that does not really mean that you have overdoesed, my experience - you
just are too sexy/hot for these girls.
Had this now with younger ones (in my age) but the older ones were totaly
different towards me.
greets
p
joseph956
01-19-2005, 01:24 PM
LOL, I can remember one
instance (thank God it was only once) where I completely OD'ed on Conquest (a phero I purchased on another webpage)
and the whole night at the club me and my best friend who I had met there had a stomach ache, I didn't realize what
it was until both of us started complaining about it, like we actually felt nauseous and didn't even feel like
drinking, smoking, etc.. and our other friend who is ALWAYS around us was off somewhere else with another group of
friends the whole night. This could be related, but I didn't really notice the responses from the women around
me...
j
Chemist
01-19-2005, 01:49 PM
I've OD's many times. It makes
the girls apprehensive and their stares go to scowls. It makes the guys more aggressive and territorial - and often
times its another girl that's their territory.
Folks, a little humor goes a long way towards maintaining an
attraction. Pheros + good sense of humor = results.
gfunk
01-19-2005, 03:10 PM
Excellent! Thx, this really
enlightened my case. :goodpost:
But the next question still remains tho' how about the day after? Are you
still messed up from the OD'd the last night and just OD'nasty in a smaller scale untill every phero's gone? Or,
as I'm hoping, that you can go back to work the day after, and actually have a rather nice phero-situation going,
with hits incoming and everything's jolly?:lol:
Also, interesstingly with the tummyache. If you got a great
pher-day, can you actually "help" your friend, and maybe even instead of you? You're sitting in a bar with a buddy
and HE gets picked up instead because of the pheros?
Cheers people! Thx so much!:cheers:
Chemist
01-19-2005, 03:16 PM
I take showers before most social
situations. I haven't noticed any actions the next day. One time, though, my boss all of sudden started acting
aggressive and smelling his own breath -this was way back when I was using YES! before I found love-scent. If
you've OD'd - just take a shower. If it was on your clothes, wear different ones and put the stinky ones in the
wash.
gfunk
01-19-2005, 05:23 PM
:think: Hmmm.. I've read here
long before that showering will not take away the phero's. I believe in a specific case where one used several
products, then showered, and applied more new phero's, and so on for a couple days, ending up seriously OD'd.
Meaning if you take a shower the day after a OD, you'd be just putting fuel to the fireglows, and extend the OD
period. I'd love for you to correct me if this is wrong, it would make things so much more easy to control, but I
think that this is exactly the downsides that you won't be able to get around.
So I would still be really
interessted in knowing if one can actually benifit from the phero- "rebound", ->(when the ODD effect is gradually
going away, to eventually be completely worn off), if you in this "rebound"-process somewhere will exit the
OD-phase, and back into a great max phero-phase whe you will be able to achieve great results again, untill the next
phase where it starts to go completely away again. And ideally, that this may very well be the day after the OD
happened, and let's say that the day after that you're probably worn it all off.
Or......if it's just a continued static OD-situation that gradually fades
away but remaining the same level of uselessness all the way untill it's totally gone.
Ah. Got a bit
complicated this, but hope you see my point the right way this time :type:
I never use phero's on clothes
tho', as the effect is much better on skin. ;)
Visionary7903
01-19-2005, 08:56 PM
If u want relatively
consistent results, I think u have to wait until the OD application is completely gone (ie. have a shower and scrub
hard and wait a day or more before reapplying). In my opinion if u have a big date on friday night, for example, my
advice would be not to put any mones on within the last 48-72 hours, have regular showers like normal, and apply a
mix a short time before the date that has worked for u before well and consistently.
ODs are generally bad in the
while after application but if u wait many hours later they can lead to some awesome hits. Some users have reported
that the mones work best after they have been blended with ur sweat and after ur bacteria has gone to work on them.
I mean I used to OD badly in clubs on friday and saturday nights (and get crap results) and the next day I used
to go to my part-time fast-moving sales job and often get wild hits. There was usually a period of 30 minutes to 2
hours where the hits were like something out of the twilight zone: if i had applied plenty of NPA/m the night
before, during this Super Hits Period pretty much any girl within a 5 metre radius would treat me like a sexy beast
:cheers: . This kind of thing happened with SOE too - it was an intensification of hits that the product is supposed
to produce.
When I can experiment, I want to try and replicate this method of application by applying massive
amounts of mones before bed and seeing what happens the next day.
Visionary
Friendly1
01-20-2005, 12:04 AM
A good OD can do wonders for
you with women at 50 yards and closing. It's the ones within 5 feet you may have a problem with.
gfunk
01-20-2005, 03:58 AM
Yeah, guess't's how's gonna
have to be. After all, a short window of 30minutes would really not be worth working for (Unless you actually get to
have sex during that time :) ) :box:
So, you're mentioning WAGG, does this "ease up" the OD?
Did you
during your "Wild sexy beast" phase get any sex then?
not to put any mones on within the last
48-72 hours
I've also read that for optimal phero effect you should use regularily. Therefore I've
found it to be a good thing to apply a full phero dosage two days before an important date, to "warm up" your body
chemistry to get used to the phero's and work better with it. But I never use on the day in between, the day before
an omportant date.
@Friendly1: U can't get much action from 50 yards :) But good point tho' ;)
gfunk
01-21-2005, 06:18 PM
I'm reading the forum, and Franki
says on OD:
"Note that as the stuff wears off, a 0.05mg OD could drop into the high-end hit
range."
So my suspicion might not be so bad after all...
Chemist
01-23-2005, 11:12 PM
Someone in another forum reminded
me of one of the signs of OD - people sneeze a lot in your area.
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