Pheromore - M Any experiances with it?

[SirAngel]

I found a producct called Pheromore - M on the internet. If you believe what you read, it would be a

very low price and a very high dosage...

Well my commen sense tells me if this was all true, Bruce would

probberbly sell it here...:think:
I´n not quite sure if i understood it right..is it from real humans?:blink:

[bjf]

I found a producct

called Pheromore - M on the internet. If you believe what you read, it would be a very low price and a very high

dosage...

Well my commen sense tells me if this was all true, Bruce would probberbly sell it here...:think:


I´n not quite sure if i understood it right..is it from real humans?:blink:


Checked it out.

They have some interesting stuff.

Anyway, M contains:

With a laboratory certified content of 9.6mg of

Androstenone , 8mg of Androstenedione, 8mg of Androsterone, 3.2mg of Estradiol, 3.2mg of DHEA in a 20ml bottle.

[SirAngel]

Here some discribtions: (this

is no advertising!!!! Just want to give you an idwa what I talk about)



http://www.pheromore.com/images/mcclinto.gifIn 1971 researcher Martha McClinock (now at

University of Chicago) published a study showing that menstrual cycles of women who lived together became

synchronized. This was later shown to be caused by

pheromones.

http://www.pheromore.com/images/cw.gif"Much to our surprise, the women reported feeling

less tense and more relaxed during exposure to the male extract," says researcher Charles J. Wysocki of the

University of Pennsylvania, in a news release. "This suggests that there may be much more going on in social

settings like singles bars than meets the eye."


What is pheromore?

Pheromore is a human pheromone

concantrate to help boost your pheromone emissions!

The other products including pheromones located on the

market are not drastic enough for generating the needed biological reaction.

They do not include the

sufficiant amount of pheromone.

http://www.pheromore.com/images/table.jpg
We have - of course - a

certificate from one of the biggest laboratories:



Well I don´t knoww...doesn´t sound to trustworthy...
I

know that mones are very expensive, so that price ist strangely low...:think:

What do you guys think??

[SirAngel]

That realy doesn´t make much

sense does it?

[bjf]

I emailed a Teklab that came up on

google asking them to confirm the certificate.

From what I understand, it is diffcult to get raw pheromone

ingredients in bulk as cheap as they sell it retail, but I wouldn't want to call them frauds before seeing evidence

of that.

[CptKipling]

There's some funky maths in

that price table of theirs too.

[Icehawk]

Ohh thank you Jebus, finally

maybe I can get some estra...? But I would wait for Bruce to comment on this maybe???

[TRock]

it's not really about the amount

of mones though. the question is......does the product work for you?

[Fuse]

I can't see how this would be

possible. They would be losing a lot of money. I only buy from Love-Scent anyway. Hopefully we can get some more

information about this product.

[Indigo]

I emailed a Teklab

that came up on google asking them to confirm the certificate.

From what I understand, it is diffcult to get raw

pheromone ingredients in bulk as cheap as they sell it retail, but I wouldn't want to call them frauds before

seeing evidence of that.
Where did you find the Teklab laboratories inc. ?

[bjf]

www.teklab.co.uk

[Bruce]

I wrote Indigo in detail about them.

It looks like an interesting formula, but if you ever bought a Phero chem set, you know how difficult it is to keep

even 1 mg of pheromones disolved in a ml of fluid. They are saying they have managed to get 1.6 mg into a ml. And

as has been noted already, the raw ingredients alone would cost more than the price of the product. Very kind of

them to be taking such a deep loss. Also, take a look at that chart that they put together. If the very tip top

most potent product is selling at $6./ml, why would they design a product to sell at a price where they are actually

taking a loss on each and every bottle they sell, when they could triple the price, make a profit and still beat

their nearest competitor? Doesn't make sense, does it?

Where the heck are they really anyway? Definitely

not a native English speaker writing that material. The decimals in the charts are commas rather than periods. The

lab they say made the report is in the UK, and the address on the website is in Miami, overseas package forwarding

capitol of the world. Something fishy there.

Bruce

[bjf]

The website seems to be

down:

"Please contact the software vendor for license status.

Scenarios for Invalid License:
1)

Possible Typo of license number provided
2) Trying to use the script without a valid license

If you

feel that this error is invalid, please contact the software vendor immediately to resolve the issue. "

[einstein]

With a laboratory

certified content of 9.6mg of Androstenone , 8mg of Androstenedione, 8mg of Androsterone, 3.2mg of Estradiol, 3.2mg

of DHEA in a 20ml bottle.


That's an interesting formula
Two pheromones, two horomones, and one

prohoromone which will become illegal in the US next month.
I wouldn't have thought to put such a powerful

estrogen in a male formula, but won't make fun of it since I haven't tried it.


Icehawk, that's not the

estra that's usually used as a pheromone. Estratetraenol is the pheromone. Estradiol is the strongest estrogen in

our bodies, more important as a horomone than as a pheromone.

I think Bruce has the best analysis of this

product.

[Icehawk]

DHEA is gonna stay legal, and Id

like some proof on the estradiol, I remmember somehting about it in Realm , so thoughts??

[bolounit]

That's an interesting formula
Two pheromones, two horomones, and one

prohoromone which will become illegal in the US next month.
I wouldn't have thought to put such a powerful

estrogen in a male formula, but won't make fun of it since I haven't tried it.


Icehawk, that's not the

estra that's usually used as a pheromone. Estratetraenol is the pheromone. Estradiol is the strongest estrogen in

our bodies, more important as a horomone than as a pheromone.

I think Bruce has the best analysis of this

product. what prohormones and things are on the band list is androstenione in pheromones going to be

banned

[eric_pelletier_tw]

btw :it comes not at

1,4$/ml but 2,25$/ml by my calculation [am i just bad in math or i am correct ? ] it would cost 28$ :) if it

was...

[eric_pelletier_tw]

must be dilluted cat

piss ! :P(j/k)

[einstein]

Androstenedione is a

prohoromone and is on the ban list. Androstadienone is the pheromone that is legal, but patented by Human

Pheromone Sciences (Erox) for pheromone use.

Thier math is good. The column was mislabeled. It should read

Price/mg and then everything works out.

[Icehawk]

Well, the chart makes sense if

its $/mg not ml but I agree, very fishy.....

[Icehawk]

-----

Original Message ----- From: "XXX"

<xxx (http://ca.f202.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=bonzo_mad@yahoo.ca&YY=22216&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&hea

d=b)>To:

<xxx (http://ca.f202.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=info@pheromore.com&YY=22216&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&hea

d=b)>Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:48 PMSubject: Details> I'm interested in

your products but had several> questions. First it contains 4-Androstenedione, which> is a prohormone and not a

pheromone. Second, other> producers claim that even at bulk purchase, it would> cost too much to sell at this price.

Also apperantly> your chart is misnamed. In the row labeled Price/ml> should be renamed to Price/mg. I am otherwise

very> interested in your products as even your formulae are> impossible to find anywhere else. Thank You.



Reply...

Dear XXX,Thank you for your enquiry on our production line. Our manufacture andlogistics is deployed

in the European Union, thus we can offer our productsfor much cheaper. Pheromore pheromones contain Androstenol

instead of4-Androstenedione from now on. If you are interested in our product, pleasegive us your address so we

could send it to you by post.Best Regards,Charles


Well that sounds interesting?!? They pack prohormones as

pheros in EU?? Bruce??

[Indigo]

----- Original

Message ----- From: "XXX"

<xxx (http://ca.f202.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=bonzo_mad@yahoo.ca&YY=22216&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&hea

d=b)>To:

<xxx (http://ca.f202.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=info@pheromore.com&YY=22216&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&hea

d=b)>Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:48 PMSubject: Details> I'm interested in

your products but had several> questions. First it contains 4-Androstenedione, which> is a prohormone and not a

pheromone. Second, other> producers claim that even at bulk purchase, it would> cost too much to sell at this price.

Also apperantly> your chart is misnamed. In the row labeled Price/ml> should be renamed to Price/mg. I am otherwise

very> interested in your products as even your formulae are> impossible to find anywhere else. Thank You.



Reply...

Dear XXX,Thank you for your enquiry on our production line. Our manufacture andlogistics is deployed

in the European Union, thus we can offer our productsfor much cheaper. Pheromore pheromones contain Androstenol

instead of4-Androstenedione from now on. If you are interested in our product, pleasegive us your address so we

could send it to you by post.Best Regards,Charles


Well that sounds interesting?!? They pack prohormones as

pheros in EU?? Bruce??
How long did it take to get an answer?

[Icehawk]

under 24hrs why?

[Indigo]

under 24hrs

why?
I asked them question two days ago and did not yet get an answer!

[SirAngel]

Got some more info of them:



The original letter was in German. Here some facts thy wrote me:
They produce in Europe. It used to be in Austria

but they foud a better equipped labatory in Hungary where they also produce there other

products.
they get their raw

materials from numerous pharmaceutic companies. Pheromones is not where they make the big money with. They have

other main products. It´s just because they have the raw material and that they already use for their other products

.They let others produce the raw materials in very very large quanteties and that is how they get the low

price.






Well choose for

yourself...

[lordcrazyd]

Maybe JVKohl can

comment????

[Indigo]

I asked them , how they keep such

a high amount of pheromones per ml in solution and if the products are water or alcohol based. I didn't get an

answer until now!

[integra]

I asked them , how they

keep such a high amount of pheromones per ml in solution and if the products are water or alcohol based. I didn't

get an answer until now!

and the answer was?...

[Marlboro_man]

thanks alot for leaving us

hanging!
:think: LOL

[Indigo]

What I wanted to say with the

sentence "I didn't get an answer until now" is not, that I got an answer finally. I am

still waiting , because they didn't answer my question ( so far ) !
Be sure, if I get one, I willl post the

information immediately ;) !

[Marlboro_man]

Thank you for keeping us

informed!

[bronzie]

Smells like a scam, signed

Proffessor Charles F. Mathias?!? I dont know where all you guys come from but here in down under it takes like 20

plus years of lock yourself up in a room academic study to become a proffessor! given a real proffessor is

articulate enough to write a thesis, this web site seems like its written by a used car salesman....

but I

could be wrong, the stuff might be good, someone should buy and try, just wont be me

[bronzie]

Pheromone companies can be a bit

on the fishy side, theres too many out there and too little known about thier products, until the whole industry

gets away from that quick fix sex advertising rubbish, pheromones will not be accepted in the mainsteam and that

ultimatly means that most of us phero uses will be stuck with the choice of only a few reputable

companies/producers, good for those few producers but bad for the users

Note:
The man that should be

sought after for his pheromone knowledge is Dr George Dodd, he might not be a proffessor but as far as I understand

is or was the leading and most respected scientist in pheromone researche in Europe, if not the World.

This

guy's credentials in pheromone and smell related research spans over 30 years.

His products are as elusive

as his new company, ive tried contacting his sales department but with no reply, his last company got sold for tens

of millions of US dollars,


Perhaps one of you guys would know more

[a.k.a.]

I tried some out yesterday.


Can’t believe it has all that None because a) I can’t smell it and b) I didn’t notice everybody turning their heads

when I got in range. But it seems to be a pretty good value.
The instructions recommend cutting it with

cologne. I mixed some with 2 parts Havoc and got results comparable to AE (uncut).
As far as the mix goes...

Pretty interesting. A strong alpha aura combined with a nice calming effect. As a stand alone it doesn’t compare to

the newest batch of love-scent products (Chikara, Pheros, Perception) or even some of the more popular combos

(SOE+TE, AE+TE, NPA+APC) but I’m pretty sure it’s good enough to get you laid.

PS I noticed a few guys

being short with me, so today I’ve added a bunch of Nol to the mix to see if it softens up the heavy alpha vibe.

[PheroManiac TM :)]

I found that you

didn't try Pheromore's stuffs. I am living in the EU and ordered an M product. I think all of you should try it. I

don't know whether it contains the mones -displayed on [Link Deleted] site- or not, the only thing I know: it

WORKS! How much do you think for the detection of supposed ingredients?

[Indigo]

I got some interesting info from

Corsys LLC:

Thea told me, that the pheromones are dissolved in alcohol and thus could be mixed with cologne. But

they explicitly recommended to use it seperately as some of the mones could flocculate ( don' know if that is the

correct word for "didissolve out of the the solution") in some perfums. Moreover they say that pheromore must not be

applied directly to the skin because of its strength. They suggest cloth application!

[PheroManiac TM :)]

Yes. Only apply on

clothes. It is in the manuals too:) As I see Indigo tried it out. My friend's father told me they can measure and

detect few kind of chemical stuffs. He votes for Gas Chromatography detection or what. Do anybody has s'thing about

it?Let the true come out! It's high time! I want to know what I paid for last year (LURE,Alchemy and Relationship

Magic,and other piece of sh**)! I forgot to tell you... A nice polish girl lies beside me. I told her the truth, she

wasn't surprised and showed me her pheromone :))
She writes it for feromony :)) My face went into red, I couldn't

say any word... but she LOL-ed for 5 minutes... then said in english: "I em de one hoo has de goerlfrend joo fucked

last weekand" ... LOL So...anything guys?

[SirAngel]

PheroManiac :)

Very hard to

read...you sound a bit confused.
Try not so "slang" since your English is not the best in the first place. It will

make it easier fot us to understand.

[PheroManiac TM :)]

SirAngel!
You are

right! :D
But... slangs? Did you find any? :)

[a.k.a.]

I got some interesting

info from Corsys LLC:

T But they explicitly recommended to use it seperately as some of the mones could

flocculate ( don' know if that is the correct word for "didissolve out of the the solution") in some

perfums.

Hmm. My Pheromore-M came with an instruction sheet that recommended cutting it with "no more

than 100 ml perfume or eau de cologne”.

[Indigo]

Hmm. My Pheromore-M

came with an instruction sheet that recommended cutting it with "no more than 100 ml perfume or eau de

cologne”.
That is exactly what they told me, besides the restriction, that in some cologens the mones

could leave the solution.

[PheroManiac TM :)]

W'out any slangs:
I

use my Pheromore-M on my clothes, closed to my neck. You can use cologne on skin or somwhere on your clothes where

you didn't dropped any M :)

[a.k.a.]

Well I tried the full strength

approach last night (single drop of Pheromore-M on my collar, spray of cologne on my chest). But all I got was OD

reactions.
Went bar hopping with some friends and they kept telling me I needed to loosen up.
Even women

that I’d met, and had good raport with, before seemed tense around me.
Got cornered by a sloppy drunk woman

in her 50’s that wouldn’t stop talking about her jacuzzi business.
Got some extreme reactions from a not very

attractive girl that was sitting at a nearby table with her bf and some other guys. She kept trying to catch my eye

until her bf asked what she was doing.
“That guy over there.” She said. “He’s hot.”
That got the

whole table staring at me, so I looked at the guy and shrugged my shoulders.
“Go for it.” He said. (Which

gives you an idea of how unattractive she was.)
I tried to ignore them, but she came over and started

boobing me. Then she tried to stick her tongue in my ear and I pushed her away.
“Oh, come on.” She said.

“You know you like it.”

My friends got a few laughs (at my expense), but it was a pretty frustrating night

for me.

[bjf]

AKA, any more testing experiences?

[BassMan]

AKA, any more testing

experiences?I bought some, too. I can't smell any mones at all, and I didn't get any effect at all, two

drops to the collar.

I put a couple of drops into a cup and a couple of equivalent drops of Stone mones into

another cup. After a week, the Stone mones still stink. Still no smell out of the -M. I doubt there is anything we

know of as mones in it...

-Bass

[seduceme]

Actually I have a bottle here

of pheromore-m, I bought it way before I ever found this place(and yes i've placed an order here already).



AND I work at a laboratory. We have LC IC and GC equipment. (Liquid, Ion and Gas chromatography for you

geniuses).
Maybe I should check out the real contents of this stuff..

[CptKipling]

That would be very interesting,

could you really do that?

[BassMan]

Actually I have a

bottle here of pheromore-m, I bought it way before I ever found this place(and yes i've placed an order here

already).

AND I work at a laboratory. We have LC IC and GC equipment. (Liquid, Ion and Gas chromatography for

you geniuses).
Maybe I should check out the real contents of this stuff..Have you had any success with the

pheromore stuff?

-Bass

[seduceme]

Im trying out pheromore-m

tonight, it smells like pure alcohol.
Ive put on 8 drops just for the sake of getting an OD reaction.
An OD

reaction is atleast a reaction.
I'll be heading out in t-minus 30 minutes here.

Well im on good terms

with the guy operating the GC so if there is a break in the schedule where he could run a sample of my stuff he'd

probably do it. We'll see I dont think there should be any problems though.

[Bruce]

Guys,

I have been meaning to

post something about this for a while, but wasn't sure how to put it. I have gotten a number of interesting emails

lately on the subject.

First I got an email from Phil Stone at Stone Labs saying that someone (a Pheromore

customer) had mailed him a bottle of "M" and asked him to run it through his equipment under the terms that the test

was supposed to be be paid for by the Pheromore company. In any case, Phil says there is nothing active in the

bottle other than DHEA, end of story.

Next, while I was still wondering how to present that info to y'all, I

got a huge email from the president of BDC Concepts (the makers of Perception), expressing considerable doubt as to

the authenticity of the product in question and offering to have it tested by yet another and completely independent

lab. BUT.... the interesting part was that this email was only a CC, and it was also CCed to the owner of the

Pheromore product!

Last but not least, the following day I got an email from the owner/president of

Pheromore saying he had accepted the challenge and would keep me in the loop of any tests/results.

So, there

you have it. You know everything I know about this situation. I will keep you posted.

Bruce

[DrSmellThis]

A GC analysis, properly

conducted and interpreted, should show what you need to know.

A problem in doing this (GC) might be "noise"

resulting from pheromones being almost like trace elements in a cologne, compared to the other ingredients.

Sometimes GC misses trace elements. It could be that DHEA was just much more plentiful than other chemicals. But

you'd think that Phil Stone would be the man to do it.

Nowadays GC is so commonplace, (every perfume company

has one) a person is an idiot to misrepresent the contents of his products.

[BassMan]

In any case, Phil

says there is nothing active in the bottle other than DHEA, end of story.
BruceMy "duck" testing (if it

looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc) is consistent with those results. There is no pheromone smell to the

product at all.

It does have the sort of "sweetish" smell I got when I disolved DHEA tablets in alcohol.



-Bass

[seduceme]

Allright so I tired 9 drops of

Pheromore-M last night, no noticable difference.
Got a few hits(not more than without more-M though).
Only

thing DIFFERENT was that everybody went out of their way not to bump into me or get in my face/way. And I mean

EVERYBODY, men , women, bouncers etc.

That was pretty cool but it could just as well been my image and

projection doing it(as I said I was the coolest looking dude in the place and behaved like I owned the guy that owns

the place, oh and heavily socially proofed by the staff and a few people partying).

[Kolja]

There are meny bad word on

pheromone-m.
i thing i will try it,maybe its work.

[SirAngel]

There are meny bad

word on pheromone-m.
i thing i will try it,maybe its work.Hi Kolja,

Are you serious????:blink:


Strange strategy.... You want to try something that obviously doesn´t work?:think:
Well if

you don´t want any positive results with pheromones and don´t want to pay a fair price for it, then don´t go for the

love-scent products, because here you get qualety and a good deal on the value for your money...!!!
:LOL:

I

have another great idea for something that doesn´t work for you. Go for some goat-dung on your

neck. I can promise you it won´t have any positive effects on normal human femals...:rofl: :p



Guys... I hope you don´t blame me for this kind of answer...:drunk:but I just couldn´t resist:smite: