View Full Version : Pheromore - M Any experiances with it?
SirAngel
12-19-2004, 03:05 PM
I found a producct called Pheromore - M on the internet. If you believe what you read, it would be a
very low price and a very high dosage...
Well my commen sense tells me if this was all true, Bruce would
probberbly sell it here...:think:
I´n not quite sure if i understood it right..is it from real humans?:blink:
I found a producct
called Pheromore - M on the internet. If you believe what you read, it would be a very low price and a very high
dosage...
Well my commen sense tells me if this was all true, Bruce would probberbly sell it here...:think:
I´n not quite sure if i understood it right..is it from real humans?:blink:
Checked it out.
They have some interesting stuff.
Anyway, M contains:
With a laboratory certified content of 9.6mg of
Androstenone , 8mg of Androstenedione, 8mg of Androsterone, 3.2mg of Estradiol, 3.2mg of DHEA in a 20ml bottle.
SirAngel
12-19-2004, 03:16 PM
Here some discribtions: (this
is no advertising!!!! Just want to give you an idwa what I talk about)
http://www.pheromore.com/images/mcclinto.gifIn 1971 researcher Martha McClinock (now at
University of Chicago) published a study showing that menstrual cycles of women who lived together became
synchronized. This was later shown to be caused by
pheromones.
http://www.pheromore.com/images/cw.gif"Much to our surprise, the women reported feeling
less tense and more relaxed during exposure to the male extract," says researcher Charles J. Wysocki of the
University of Pennsylvania, in a news release. "This suggests that there may be much more going on in social
settings like singles bars than meets the eye."
What is pheromore?
Pheromore is a human pheromone
concantrate to help boost your pheromone emissions!
The other products including pheromones located on the
market are not drastic enough for generating the needed biological reaction.
They do not include the
sufficiant amount of pheromone.
http://www.pheromore.com/images/table.jpg
We have - of course - a
certificate from one of the biggest laboratories:
Well I don´t knoww...doesn´t sound to trustworthy...
I
know that mones are very expensive, so that price ist strangely low...:think:
What do you guys think??
SirAngel
12-19-2004, 03:18 PM
That realy doesn´t make much
sense does it?
I emailed a Teklab that came up on
google asking them to confirm the certificate.
From what I understand, it is diffcult to get raw pheromone
ingredients in bulk as cheap as they sell it retail, but I wouldn't want to call them frauds before seeing evidence
of that.
CptKipling
12-19-2004, 07:18 PM
There's some funky maths in
that price table of theirs too.
Icehawk
12-19-2004, 08:00 PM
Ohh thank you Jebus, finally
maybe I can get some estra...? But I would wait for Bruce to comment on this maybe???
TRock
12-19-2004, 11:08 PM
it's not really about the amount
of mones though. the question is......does the product work for you?
I can't see how this would be
possible. They would be losing a lot of money. I only buy from Love-Scent anyway. Hopefully we can get some more
information about this product.
Indigo
12-20-2004, 11:03 AM
I emailed a Teklab
that came up on google asking them to confirm the certificate.
From what I understand, it is diffcult to get raw
pheromone ingredients in bulk as cheap as they sell it retail, but I wouldn't want to call them frauds before
seeing evidence of that.
Where did you find the Teklab laboratories inc. ?
Bruce
12-20-2004, 02:31 PM
I wrote Indigo in detail about them.
It looks like an interesting formula, but if you ever bought a Phero chem set, you know how difficult it is to keep
even 1 mg of pheromones disolved in a ml of fluid. They are saying they have managed to get 1.6 mg into a ml. And
as has been noted already, the raw ingredients alone would cost more than the price of the product. Very kind of
them to be taking such a deep loss. Also, take a look at that chart that they put together. If the very tip top
most potent product is selling at $6./ml, why would they design a product to sell at a price where they are actually
taking a loss on each and every bottle they sell, when they could triple the price, make a profit and still beat
their nearest competitor? Doesn't make sense, does it?
Where the heck are they really anyway? Definitely
not a native English speaker writing that material. The decimals in the charts are commas rather than periods. The
lab they say made the report is in the UK, and the address on the website is in Miami, overseas package forwarding
capitol of the world. Something fishy there.
Bruce
The website seems to be
down:
"Please contact the software vendor for license status.
Scenarios for Invalid License:
1)
Possible Typo of license number provided
2) Trying to use the script without a valid license
If you
feel that this error is invalid, please contact the software vendor immediately to resolve the issue. "
einstein
12-20-2004, 07:10 PM
With a laboratory
certified content of 9.6mg of Androstenone , 8mg of Androstenedione, 8mg of Androsterone, 3.2mg of Estradiol, 3.2mg
of DHEA in a 20ml bottle.
That's an interesting formula
Two pheromones, two horomones, and one
prohoromone which will become illegal in the US next month.
I wouldn't have thought to put such a powerful
estrogen in a male formula, but won't make fun of it since I haven't tried it.
Icehawk, that's not the
estra that's usually used as a pheromone. Estratetraenol is the pheromone. Estradiol is the strongest estrogen in
our bodies, more important as a horomone than as a pheromone.
I think Bruce has the best analysis of this
product.
Icehawk
12-20-2004, 08:25 PM
DHEA is gonna stay legal, and Id
like some proof on the estradiol, I remmember somehting about it in Realm , so thoughts??
bolounit
12-20-2004, 09:04 PM
That's an interesting formula
Two pheromones, two horomones, and one
prohoromone which will become illegal in the US next month.
I wouldn't have thought to put such a powerful
estrogen in a male formula, but won't make fun of it since I haven't tried it.
Icehawk, that's not the
estra that's usually used as a pheromone. Estratetraenol is the pheromone. Estradiol is the strongest estrogen in
our bodies, more important as a horomone than as a pheromone.
I think Bruce has the best analysis of this
product. what prohormones and things are on the band list is androstenione in pheromones going to be
banned
eric_pelletier_tw
12-20-2004, 09:23 PM
btw :it comes not at
1,4$/ml but 2,25$/ml by my calculation [am i just bad in math or i am correct ? ] it would cost 28$ :) if it
was...
eric_pelletier_tw
12-20-2004, 09:23 PM
must be dilluted cat
piss ! :P(j/k)
einstein
12-21-2004, 01:35 AM
Androstenedione is a
prohoromone and is on the ban list. Androstadienone is the pheromone that is legal, but patented by Human
Pheromone Sciences (Erox) for pheromone use.
Thier math is good. The column was mislabeled. It should read
Price/mg and then everything works out.
Icehawk
12-21-2004, 06:48 AM
Well, the chart makes sense if
its $/mg not ml but I agree, very fishy.....
Icehawk
12-22-2004, 04:07 PM
-----
Original Message ----- From: "XXX"
<xxx (http://ca.f202.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=bonzo_mad@yahoo.ca&YY=22216&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&hea
d=b)>To:
<xxx (http://ca.f202.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=info@pheromore.com&YY=22216&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&hea
d=b)>Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:48 PMSubject: Details> I'm interested in
your products but had several> questions. First it contains 4-Androstenedione, which> is a prohormone and not a
pheromone. Second, other> producers claim that even at bulk purchase, it would> cost too much to sell at this price.
Also apperantly> your chart is misnamed. In the row labeled Price/ml> should be renamed to Price/mg. I am otherwise
very> interested in your products as even your formulae are> impossible to find anywhere else. Thank You.
Reply...
Dear XXX,Thank you for your enquiry on our production line. Our manufacture andlogistics is deployed
in the European Union, thus we can offer our productsfor much cheaper. Pheromore pheromones contain Androstenol
instead of4-Androstenedione from now on. If you are interested in our product, pleasegive us your address so we
could send it to you by post.Best Regards,Charles
Well that sounds interesting?!? They pack prohormones as
pheros in EU?? Bruce??
Indigo
12-22-2004, 04:28 PM
----- Original
Message ----- From: "XXX"
<xxx (http://ca.f202.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=bonzo_mad@yahoo.ca&YY=22216&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&hea
d=b)>To:
<xxx (http://ca.f202.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=info@pheromore.com&YY=22216&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&hea
d=b)>Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:48 PMSubject: Details> I'm interested in
your products but had several> questions. First it contains 4-Androstenedione, which> is a prohormone and not a
pheromone. Second, other> producers claim that even at bulk purchase, it would> cost too much to sell at this price.
Also apperantly> your chart is misnamed. In the row labeled Price/ml> should be renamed to Price/mg. I am otherwise
very> interested in your products as even your formulae are> impossible to find anywhere else. Thank You.
Reply...
Dear XXX,Thank you for your enquiry on our production line. Our manufacture andlogistics is deployed
in the European Union, thus we can offer our productsfor much cheaper. Pheromore pheromones contain Androstenol
instead of4-Androstenedione from now on. If you are interested in our product, pleasegive us your address so we
could send it to you by post.Best Regards,Charles
Well that sounds interesting?!? They pack prohormones as
pheros in EU?? Bruce??
How long did it take to get an answer?
Icehawk
12-22-2004, 04:36 PM
under 24hrs why?
Indigo
12-22-2004, 04:55 PM
under 24hrs
why?
I asked them question two days ago and did not yet get an answer!
SirAngel
01-06-2005, 02:29 PM
Got some more info of them:
The original letter was in German. Here some facts thy wrote me:
They produce in Europe. It used to be in Austria
but they foud a better equipped labatory in Hungary where they also produce there other
products.
they get their raw
materials from numerous pharmaceutic companies. Pheromones is not where they make the big money with. They have
other main products. It´s just because they have the raw material and that they already use for their other products
.They let others produce the raw materials in very very large quanteties and that is how they get the low
price.
Well choose for
yourself...
lordcrazyd
01-06-2005, 09:23 PM
Maybe JVKohl can
comment????
Indigo
01-06-2005, 09:30 PM
I asked them , how they keep such
a high amount of pheromones per ml in solution and if the products are water or alcohol based. I didn't get an
answer until now!
integra
01-06-2005, 10:26 PM
I asked them , how they
keep such a high amount of pheromones per ml in solution and if the products are water or alcohol based. I didn't
get an answer until now!
and the answer was?...
Marlboro_man
01-07-2005, 01:36 AM
thanks alot for leaving us
hanging!
:think: LOL
Indigo
01-07-2005, 01:46 AM
What I wanted to say with the
sentence "I didn't get an answer until now" is not, that I got an answer finally. I am
still waiting , because they didn't answer my question ( so far ) !
Be sure, if I get one, I willl post the
information immediately ;) !
Marlboro_man
01-07-2005, 01:48 AM
Thank you for keeping us
informed!
bronzie
01-07-2005, 06:19 AM
Smells like a scam, signed
Proffessor Charles F. Mathias?!? I dont know where all you guys come from but here in down under it takes like 20
plus years of lock yourself up in a room academic study to become a proffessor! given a real proffessor is
articulate enough to write a thesis, this web site seems like its written by a used car salesman....
but I
could be wrong, the stuff might be good, someone should buy and try, just wont be me
bronzie
01-07-2005, 06:51 AM
Pheromone companies can be a bit
on the fishy side, theres too many out there and too little known about thier products, until the whole industry
gets away from that quick fix sex advertising rubbish, pheromones will not be accepted in the mainsteam and that
ultimatly means that most of us phero uses will be stuck with the choice of only a few reputable
companies/producers, good for those few producers but bad for the users
Note:
The man that should be
sought after for his pheromone knowledge is Dr George Dodd, he might not be a proffessor but as far as I understand
is or was the leading and most respected scientist in pheromone researche in Europe, if not the World.
This
guy's credentials in pheromone and smell related research spans over 30 years.
His products are as elusive
as his new company, ive tried contacting his sales department but with no reply, his last company got sold for tens
of millions of US dollars,
Perhaps one of you guys would know more
a.k.a.
01-09-2005, 11:26 AM
I tried some out yesterday.
Can’t believe it has all that None because a) I can’t smell it and b) I didn’t notice everybody turning their heads
when I got in range. But it seems to be a pretty good value.
The instructions recommend cutting it with
cologne. I mixed some with 2 parts Havoc and got results comparable to AE (uncut).
As far as the mix goes...
Pretty interesting. A strong alpha aura combined with a nice calming effect. As a stand alone it doesn’t compare to
the newest batch of love-scent products (Chikara, Pheros, Perception) or even some of the more popular combos
(SOE+TE, AE+TE, NPA+APC) but I’m pretty sure it’s good enough to get you laid.
PS I noticed a few guys
being short with me, so today I’ve added a bunch of Nol to the mix to see if it softens up the heavy alpha vibe.
PheroManiac TM :)
01-19-2005, 09:10 AM
I found that you
didn't try Pheromore's stuffs. I am living in the EU and ordered an M product. I think all of you should try it. I
don't know whether it contains the mones -displayed on [Link Deleted] site- or not, the only thing I know: it
WORKS! How much do you think for the detection of supposed ingredients?
Indigo
01-19-2005, 02:41 PM
I got some interesting info from
Corsys LLC:
Thea told me, that the pheromones are dissolved in alcohol and thus could be mixed with cologne. But
they explicitly recommended to use it seperately as some of the mones could flocculate ( don' know if that is the
correct word for "didissolve out of the the solution") in some perfums. Moreover they say that pheromore must not be
applied directly to the skin because of its strength. They suggest cloth application!
PheroManiac TM :)
01-20-2005, 08:56 PM
Yes. Only apply on
clothes. It is in the manuals too:) As I see Indigo tried it out. My friend's father told me they can measure and
detect few kind of chemical stuffs. He votes for Gas Chromatography detection or what. Do anybody has s'thing about
it?Let the true come out! It's high time! I want to know what I paid for last year (LURE,Alchemy and Relationship
Magic,and other piece of sh**)! I forgot to tell you... A nice polish girl lies beside me. I told her the truth, she
wasn't surprised and showed me her pheromone :))
She writes it for feromony :)) My face went into red, I couldn't
say any word... but she LOL-ed for 5 minutes... then said in english: "I em de one hoo has de goerlfrend joo fucked
last weekand" ... LOL So...anything guys?
SirAngel
01-21-2005, 01:29 AM
PheroManiac :)
Very hard to
read...you sound a bit confused.
Try not so "slang" since your English is not the best in the first place. It will
make it easier fot us to understand.
PheroManiac TM :)
01-21-2005, 06:47 AM
SirAngel!
You are
right! :D
But... slangs? Did you find any? :)
a.k.a.
01-21-2005, 08:08 AM
I got some interesting
info from Corsys LLC:
T But they explicitly recommended to use it seperately as some of the mones could
flocculate ( don' know if that is the correct word for "didissolve out of the the solution") in some
perfums.
Hmm. My Pheromore-M came with an instruction sheet that recommended cutting it with "no more
than 100 ml perfume or eau de cologne”.
Indigo
01-21-2005, 09:26 AM
Hmm. My Pheromore-M
came with an instruction sheet that recommended cutting it with "no more than 100 ml perfume or eau de
cologne”.
That is exactly what they told me, besides the restriction, that in some cologens the mones
could leave the solution.
PheroManiac TM :)
01-21-2005, 10:34 AM
W'out any slangs:
I
use my Pheromore-M on my clothes, closed to my neck. You can use cologne on skin or somwhere on your clothes where
you didn't dropped any M :)
a.k.a.
01-22-2005, 09:03 AM
Well I tried the full strength
approach last night (single drop of Pheromore-M on my collar, spray of cologne on my chest). But all I got was OD
reactions.
Went bar hopping with some friends and they kept telling me I needed to loosen up.
Even women
that I’d met, and had good raport with, before seemed tense around me.
Got cornered by a sloppy drunk woman
in her 50’s that wouldn’t stop talking about her jacuzzi business.
Got some extreme reactions from a not very
attractive girl that was sitting at a nearby table with her bf and some other guys. She kept trying to catch my eye
until her bf asked what she was doing.
“That guy over there.” She said. “He’s hot.”
That got the
whole table staring at me, so I looked at the guy and shrugged my shoulders.
“Go for it.” He said. (Which
gives you an idea of how unattractive she was.)
I tried to ignore them, but she came over and started
boobing me. Then she tried to stick her tongue in my ear and I pushed her away.
“Oh, come on.” She said.
“You know you like it.”
My friends got a few laughs (at my expense), but it was a pretty frustrating night
for me.
AKA, any more testing experiences?
BassMan
02-23-2005, 12:55 PM
AKA, any more testing
experiences?I bought some, too. I can't smell any mones at all, and I didn't get any effect at all, two
drops to the collar.
I put a couple of drops into a cup and a couple of equivalent drops of Stone mones into
another cup. After a week, the Stone mones still stink. Still no smell out of the -M. I doubt there is anything we
know of as mones in it...
-Bass
seduceme
03-03-2005, 12:09 PM
Actually I have a bottle here
of pheromore-m, I bought it way before I ever found this place(and yes i've placed an order here already).
AND I work at a laboratory. We have LC IC and GC equipment. (Liquid, Ion and Gas chromatography for you
geniuses).
Maybe I should check out the real contents of this stuff..
CptKipling
03-03-2005, 12:16 PM
That would be very interesting,
could you really do that?
BassMan
03-03-2005, 12:33 PM
Actually I have a
bottle here of pheromore-m, I bought it way before I ever found this place(and yes i've placed an order here
already).
AND I work at a laboratory. We have LC IC and GC equipment. (Liquid, Ion and Gas chromatography for
you geniuses).
Maybe I should check out the real contents of this stuff..Have you had any success with the
pheromore stuff?
-Bass
seduceme
03-03-2005, 12:39 PM
Im trying out pheromore-m
tonight, it smells like pure alcohol.
Ive put on 8 drops just for the sake of getting an OD reaction.
An OD
reaction is atleast a reaction.
I'll be heading out in t-minus 30 minutes here.
Well im on good terms
with the guy operating the GC so if there is a break in the schedule where he could run a sample of my stuff he'd
probably do it. We'll see I dont think there should be any problems though.
Bruce
03-04-2005, 10:28 AM
Guys,
I have been meaning to
post something about this for a while, but wasn't sure how to put it. I have gotten a number of interesting emails
lately on the subject.
First I got an email from Phil Stone at Stone Labs saying that someone (a Pheromore
customer) had mailed him a bottle of "M" and asked him to run it through his equipment under the terms that the test
was supposed to be be paid for by the Pheromore company. In any case, Phil says there is nothing active in the
bottle other than DHEA, end of story.
Next, while I was still wondering how to present that info to y'all, I
got a huge email from the president of BDC Concepts (the makers of Perception), expressing considerable doubt as to
the authenticity of the product in question and offering to have it tested by yet another and completely independent
lab. BUT.... the interesting part was that this email was only a CC, and it was also CCed to the owner of the
Pheromore product!
Last but not least, the following day I got an email from the owner/president of
Pheromore saying he had accepted the challenge and would keep me in the loop of any tests/results.
So, there
you have it. You know everything I know about this situation. I will keep you posted.
Bruce
DrSmellThis
03-04-2005, 10:51 AM
A GC analysis, properly
conducted and interpreted, should show what you need to know.
A problem in doing this (GC) might be "noise"
resulting from pheromones being almost like trace elements in a cologne, compared to the other ingredients.
Sometimes GC misses trace elements. It could be that DHEA was just much more plentiful than other chemicals. But
you'd think that Phil Stone would be the man to do it.
Nowadays GC is so commonplace, (every perfume company
has one) a person is an idiot to misrepresent the contents of his products.
BassMan
03-04-2005, 11:29 AM
In any case, Phil
says there is nothing active in the bottle other than DHEA, end of story.
BruceMy "duck" testing (if it
looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc) is consistent with those results. There is no pheromone smell to the
product at all.
It does have the sort of "sweetish" smell I got when I disolved DHEA tablets in alcohol.
-Bass
seduceme
03-04-2005, 11:33 AM
Allright so I tired 9 drops of
Pheromore-M last night, no noticable difference.
Got a few hits(not more than without more-M though).
Only
thing DIFFERENT was that everybody went out of their way not to bump into me or get in my face/way. And I mean
EVERYBODY, men , women, bouncers etc.
That was pretty cool but it could just as well been my image and
projection doing it(as I said I was the coolest looking dude in the place and behaved like I owned the guy that owns
the place, oh and heavily socially proofed by the staff and a few people partying).
Kolja
03-14-2005, 06:16 AM
There are meny bad word on
pheromone-m.
i thing i will try it,maybe its work.
SirAngel
03-14-2005, 08:16 AM
There are meny bad
word on pheromone-m.
i thing i will try it,maybe its work.Hi Kolja,
Are you serious????:blink:
Strange strategy.... You want to try something that obviously doesn´t work?:think:
Well if
you don´t want any positive results with pheromones and don´t want to pay a fair price for it, then don´t go for the
love-scent products, because here you get qualety and a good deal on the value for your money...!!!
:LOL:
I
have another great idea for something that doesn´t work for you. Go for some goat-dung on your
neck. I can promise you it won´t have any positive effects on normal human femals...:rofl: :p
Guys... I hope you don´t blame me for this kind of answer...:drunk:but I just couldn´t resist:smite:
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