Unwanted hits

[platinumfox]

We are proud to

mention the "good hits" but you ever get a hit from someone you dont want.For Me its this lady at work shes at least

60.Everytime I have on any kind of mone she gets "flirty" and her husband works there too.It happened again

yesterday LOL!

[DCW]

We are proud to

mention the "good hits" but you ever get a hit from someone you dont want.For Me its this lady at work shes at least

60.Everytime I have on any kind of mone she gets "flirty" and her husband works there too.It happened again

yesterday LOL!

Swingers!!!

DCW

[MOBLEYC57]

Pretty much like ... everytime I

walk outside, the sun gets on me. :rofl:

You asked fer it ... you got it, Toyota! :rofl:

Sorry, but hits

from people you don't want hits from, comes with the territory. :drunk: You're just gonna have to fight off :POKE:

, or run from :run: , the coons til the foxes show up! :kiss:

[ismellgood]

I find that older women (45

plus) seem to be even more reactive to my use of pheromones (perhaps the pheromone effect is further intensified by

my having no interest at all in them).

[Gegogi]

Older women are

usually much better in the sack than younger women. Many are also more open to causal or purely sexual

relationships. The difficult part is finding a hot 45 year old. There are some out there. The 30 something ones are

easier to find and usually know all the tricks. When I was a kid an older woman taught me well and I'm forever

grateful to her.:smite:

[ismellgood]

Gegogi,
I agree that

relatively older women are, on average, better in bed than younger ones. But beyond a certain age, the better sexual

skills are offset by declining physical attractiveness. I have found that (on average!!) 25-35 is the best

trade-off.

[kappakai]

One of the first times I used

Chikara, I was hanging out at a friend's place playing poker. There were two girls there, we'll call them 1 & 2.

Not exactly the most attractive girls, college age, short, dumpy and froggish; the other looks like an overstuffed

cartoon teddy bear. One of them ended up with her feet under my ass (to keep them warm, so she said) and the other

was sitting next to me on the couch. I made friendly small talk, like I normally do with most people, but was

conciously trying not to give off any signs of interest. I have a lot of female friends, and am, hence, a firm

believer in the female-esseque attitude of "just cause a guy talks to you doesn't mean he's

interested."

For the next week, I got a phone call each and every night around 2am from one or the other, and

sometimes, both, girls. I screened all my calls, but that didn't keep them from leaving long, sordid messages on my

phone. I don't mind these types of messages, just not from these two particular girls. One message was more or

less, "hey, we're drunk, and we wanna have a threesome. where the f* are you, what's wrong with you? don't you

know poissy's slapping you in the face! callll us.." seductive, no? they got the point after a week.

[bjf]

How did they get your number?

[kappakai]

Via a mutual friend.

One

lesson I've learned about using mones, if you don't want someone calling you up left and right, more or less

stalking you, don't use pheromones around them.

[Surreal]

I have had a unwanted hit at

Chik-a-fila (or somthing). Just smile and walk away.

But if It happened at a loose party...I dont know. I would

proberly go hang out with the guys and talk about men stuff.

[MOBLEYC57]

WARNING: Remember

... UNWANTEES sometimes have very good looking friends, so smile, be nice, and then .... :run: !

[StandingTall]

plantinum,

Unwanted

hits happened all the time. At my previous job I would get hits from this cute secretary who is married. From an

unattractive cafeteria worker and from older female executives. I also got wanted hits to so you have to take the

good with the bad.

[DCW]

Older women are usually

much better in the sack than younger women. Many are also more open to causal or purely sexual relationships. The

difficult part is finding a hot 45 year old. There are some out there. The 30 something ones are easier to find and

usually know all the tricks. When I was a kid an older woman taught me well and I'm forever grateful to

her.:smite:

I have to agree. I started getting better quality after I hit 30.
Women also reach

their sexual peak later than men.
No stone unturned for old DCW I'm flexible :cheers: .

DCW

[TRock]

We are proud to

mention the "good hits" but you ever get a hit from someone you dont want.For Me its this lady at work shes at least

60.Everytime I have on any kind of mone she gets "flirty" and her husband works there too.It happened again

yesterday LOL!
just be glad you're not a hot woman.


http://nypost.com/entertainment/36558.htm

[tounge]

just be glad you're

not a hot woman.


http://nypost.com/entertainment/36558.htm





After reading that article, now I know why some of the young guys think the way they do about women

around here.

These poor skank, only get hit on by scuz and preditors. And a fake ring solves all their

problems.


Of course, a bud of mine, has found much success in the sack when he goes out with his phony

wedding band.

[Gegogi]

I agree, a

wedding band can really bring out the serious horndogs, i.e., women that only want a few rolls in the hay with no

commitment. If you're a love hungry single guy they're often afraid you might cramp their style.

But, yeah,

a woman with an engagement ring doesn't scare off most guys. :smite:

[BIONIC MAN]

your using mones to get a

reaction , and ugly people can get attracted to a mone user. ugly people usually have attractive friends , becuase

they make each other look better. say a woman is a 7 her friend is a 3.8 together the 7 looks like a 8.5 and the 3.8

looks like a 5.2 with her friend .:LOL:

[Silver]

Oooh boy, you guys have NO

idea.

If unwanted come-ons freaked me out a lot, I would be hidding in my basement for the rest of my life. Or

at least until I'm old and wrinkly.

Once when I was 14, I was hit on by a guy that looked about 45-50. Now,

granted, I've always looked a little older, but there was no way you could mistake me for more than 18. But do you

know what's a better repellent than a fake ring? Your 45 year old mother who looks about 30 walking up to you.



Tongue, you don't have to be a skank to get hit on by gross guys hollering obscenities and wolf-whistling. And

while I personally think the fake rings are dishonest and probably wouldn' twear one myself, I totally understand

where these women are coming from.

Back on topic though, I got a strong unwanted hit just yesterday at the

grocery store. 40 some balding cashier asked me for my number >.< Now, this might or might not have been the mones,

but I was wearing 2 drops of AE/w.

~Silver

[a.k.a.]

Hah! I want all the hits I can

get.
My philosophy is that everybody’s good for something. It doesn’t have to be about sex, love or

romance. You just have to negotiate your needs.
For the most part, this works out pretty well. But there

have been a handful of particularly hard “negotiations”. (And there was always alcohol involved.)
Once a big,

burly gay guy (turns out he was a professional hockey player) put me in a crushing bear hug and tried to kiss me.

Luckily there’s an aikido move that helps you slip out of such situations.
Another time a fat, ugly, probably

psychotic lady kept trying to take my shirt off. When the bouncer tried to politely escort her out, she fell to the

floor and started bawling like a baby. Very embarrassing.

[tounge]

Sliver, I'm not knocking these

chicks for wearing fake rings. Hey whatever works. I don't like the manhater attitude of these girls, that the

article portrayed. They came across as though their poop doesn't stink, and that any guy who hit on them was a

creep or a pervert.


I get my share of women hitting on me, that don't intrest me. It comes with the

territory. Many of my attactive female friends have unattractive guys hitting on them all the time. They deal with

it. It is the price to be paid for being an attractive human being.

That doesn't excuse not taking "NO" for

an answer.

[kappakai]

True true, maybe I should have

just straight up said no. But with all this talk about body language, and non-verbal clues, you'd think that they

would have gotten the point. I think eventually they did, and I am still on friendly terms with these girls. I

actually DJ'd for one girl's party, and THAT was interesting. One of her friends flashed her boobs at me and told

me that they were so big they usually hung low, although they were duct taped at the moment. I would have pursued

it, but I didn't see her the rest of the night (probably e'd out in a corner somewhere, and I was more interested

in not train-wrecking the set.) And, though I buy into the ugly girls have cute friends theory, it brings a LOT of

headache with it. During my pre-pheromone days, a good female friend of mine introduced me and tried to hook me up

with all of her friends, which I did before finally settling on dating one. Unfortunately, in the process, rumors

fly, feelings get hurt, and I found out that my friend actually had a huge crush on me. We've worked it out, our

friendship is deep enough for us to be grownup about it. But, believe me it was fun. There's nothing better than

going out raving with 4 hot girls and all they want to do is use you as a body pillow. You should see the looks on

some of the people that walked by. But, there's also something to be said for discretion. If you end up putting

your lincoln log into each of a group of girls, be ready for plenty of castigation and castration. Yes, I kind of

dated my friend's friends, but no sex until I was sure about the girl. This ended up being a wise decision as the

girl I ended up going out with knew that I had managed to keep my urges udner control, except with her. Major

brownie points.

BTW, I've definitely noticed. Chikara elicits a LOT of boob flashing.

[DCW]

your using mones to

get a reaction , and ugly people can get attracted to a mone user. ugly people usually have attractive friends ,

becuase they make each other look better. say a woman is a 7 her friend is a 3.8 together the 7 looks like a 8.5 and

the 3.8 looks like a 5.2 with her friend .:LOL:

No dude, hot chick always group together just like

heavy chicks.


DCW

[Watcher]

my personal response is if you do

nothing with the "unattractive" ones you dont want they soon get the message and unless they do something veyr

strange like ask you out on a proper date or something similar it goes no further the great thing about women is

that they hardly ever make the first offical move on the guy they will drop hints and hang around like flies to a

piece of shitt but they wont make the first move 99% of the time.

That said there it is easy way to deal with

unwanted hints - you could try running away or bore them with some really boring discussion like politics etc.
I

know mid 20s myself and 50+ women can be annoying but you soon just switch off (again unwilling to embarrass

themselves so they just sit there with their unconscious body signals going round and round and round and

round)

Dont worry some of the "bigger" ones either get some desperate guy in the end or ship up and do some

exercise and get into shape and off the couch and into the gym (uni sex gyms are a good place to meet attractive

woemn and get into shape) just go easy on the mones if you are sweating (1 spray perception for example max)

[Silver]

Yeah, that's true tongue, they

did come off as a little bitchy. I don't know, for some of those stories they had the right to. When a guy

hitting on you is clearly twice your age or more, you have the right to a dose of bitchiness. But most of the time

you just have to take the good with the bad.

And I agree with DCW, cute girls often group together. Not always,

but sadly often.

~Silver

[tounge]

Why would you be bitchy to a dude

just because he is twice as old as you? If he is a gentleman about it, than your turn away should be polite. If he

is an obnoxious jerk about it, than do what you need to do.

[belgareth]

Thanks for mentioning that,

Tounge. Something I've noticed is that even when you are just being nice pretty women often assume you are hitting

on them. I'll almost always hold a door for somebody, make eye contact, smile and say something to them. The

majority of people respond nicely but attractive women as often as not are brusque or even rude.

Frankly, I

can't imagine hitting on a kid like Silver (no offense intended but you are very young) or even hitting on somebody

while I'm working but all too often some women seem to think every man is hitting on them. Give us guys a break,

most of us do aspire to becoming dirty old men but that doesn't mean that just because we are polite we are hitting

on you.

[bjf]

Thanks for

mentioning that, Tounge. Something I've noticed is that even when you are just being nice pretty women often assume

you are hitting on them. I'll almost always hold a door for somebody, make eye contact, smile and say something to

them. The majority of people respond nicely but attractive women as often as not are brusque or even rude.



Frankly, I can't imagine hitting on a kid like Silver (no offense intended but you are very young) or even

hitting on somebody while I'm working but all too often some women seem to think every man is hitting on them. Give

us guys a break, most of us do aspire to becoming dirty old men but that doesn't mean that just because we are

polite we are hitting on you.

I think the reason is because people who are as naturally polite as you

are a rarity. I assume you are one of those guys who even holds doors for other guys and lets them go first. I

always thought that is a pretty classy thing, though I can tell the act is out of respect not incentive easier than

a woman could, especially an attactive one.

[belgareth]

I think the reason

is because people who are as naturally polite as you are a rarity. I assume you are one of those guys who even holds

doors for other guys and lets them go first. I always thought that is a pretty classy thing, though I can tell the

act is out of respect not incentive easier than a woman could, especially an attactive one.
You're right,

I almost always will stand there and hold the door for everybody and am pleasant with anybody. It does me no harm

and is a nice gesture to others. Maybe the world could use more nice gestures.

It's been my experience that I

get better service, problems are handled more quickly and everything seems to go more easily when I am polite. As a

service provider, I try to give great service to every one of my clients. The ones that are pleasnt and friendly are

easier to help and work with, the screamers or those who make threats and such usually don't get as enthusiastic of

service. It's human nature.

[eric_pelletier_tw]

i find that most woman

think your hiting on them just by talking even if you only whant to be a friend.I also find stupid that in a world

civilised & inteligent that we are in we still have to make games to get our point across & when you are being clear

about what you want from the oposite sex its like you are "too easy "so they dont want of you. On to the topic even

without mones it seams older girls are always easyer to befriend or chat with even it is all you want with them ...

they probalby got tired of playing "games". i got some glances witout mones from older ladies.... as for mones hits

i dont count the few weird things as real hits...

[tounge]

I think the definition of hitting

on someone needs to be defined. I talk to all the women I can, young,old, cute or not so cute. I will admit to

having a problem with obesity in women, so I may not open a conversation with one.

I also hold the door for

anyone regardless of sex or looks. And Belgareth is right. It often seems that exceptionly attractive women can be

oblivious to your courtesy or downright rude. And I'll let them know it.

I make it simple. If I'm hitting

on you, I'm asking for digets. I don't have time to fart around with game playing. If I get a no, I move on. Often

to something better.

[Silver]

I really don't think that women

think guys hit on them all the time. I mean, heck, half the time I'm at a party with my girls we're whispering

back and forth 'Do you think he's looking at me? I think he's looking at me. No, he's not looking at me.'



I agree with you, belgareth, in that holding the door for a woman is very gentlemanly, and should never be

responded to with rudeness. I also agree with you, tongue, in that if an older man hit on a woman respectfully,

then they should still be treated with courtesy, although I personally find hitting on a woman who could be your

granddaughter kind of gross no matter the sophistication of your approach.

However, the women in this particular

article that I was talking about are not responding to polite compliments and flirtation, but rather guys that

won't take a hint, or are crude and lewd, men who "still believe that a woman enjoys hearing comments about the

size of certain regions of her body, so that everyone in earshot can turn around and examine her merits, too" and

say things such as "Baby, let me work on you and that hot little body."

Now, I consider myself a very polite

person, and I would never even think about being rude to a guy who held a door open for me, but when hear comments

like those, and I have before, by all that is good and right in the world, I reserve my right to yell at him to my

heart's desire.

~Silver

[belgareth]

...when hear

comments like those, and I have before, by all that is good and right in the world, I reserve my right to yell at

him to my heart's desire.

~SilverAnd you would be well within your rights to do so. There is no excuse

for some man (or woman) of any age being a crude ass to anybody.

[Gegogi]

Silver writes, "when a guy hitting on you is clearly twice your age or more, you have the right to a dose of

bitchiness. But most of the time you just have to take the good with the bad."

I don't feel or

consider myself old but, alas, I just turned 50. Inside I have the same feelings and desires I did 25 years ago, and

that applies to women. I can still fall in love, be a total fool and hurt just as bad as I did 30 years ago. When I

was in high school and college I was mainly attracted to "older" women. i.e., mid-20s. Over the years that

preference hasn't changed much. I figured by age 50 I'd be done for but lots of younger women are attracted to me

and let me know in no uncertain terms. I rarely comeon to women--shy & don't want the image of a dirty old man--but

women are much bolder than they were 20 years ago. They're usually surprised when they learn my age--they think

I'm in my 30s--but it doesn't deter them. Once in the relationship the trappings of age quickly melt away. I'm

not a sugar daddy--I'm a college professor & professional musician--but women 20-30 are strangely attracted to me

(younger women usually leave me alone). Perhaps it's part of the vintage craze but I can't complain.

[belgareth]

I'm a couple years younger

than Gegogi and completely understand his point of view. The biggest advantage of age is that it opens more

opportunity. It's really strange but in the last few years I have had more hits from women in their late 20's to

early 30's than I ever did when I was that age. As a businessman I can't afford to be seen as a dirty old man who

hits on youngsters either. It isn't necesary to hit on them, they make their opinions very plain. Not all, of

course but a surprising number of them and they are usually some of the best lookers.

[DCW]

I think the reason is

because people who are as naturally polite as you are a rarity. I assume you are one of those guys who even holds

doors for other guys and lets them go first. I always thought that is a pretty classy thing, though I can tell the

act is out of respect not incentive easier than a woman could, especially an attactive one.


I was

talking to a lady online today (we spoke once or twice in the past). I told her I was heading to Starbucks and if

she would join me, she immediately became defensive and suspicious, so I assured her that I just wanted to chat and

nothing more.
She told me that it was a rarity, which to me was kinda sad.

Well to make a long story short

we met at Starbucks and chatted, she told me that she was getting an early start on preparing her Christmas meal. I

told her that I was going to brew some ginger beer but wasn’t planning on a formal Christmas dinner (unless the ex

makes one), at this point she invited me to her home for Christmas dinner and thanked her for the consideration

(undecided).

We parted eventually but I couldn’t help remembering how she carried with suspicious. It seems

that they are those who for some strange reason can’t see men and women as just being friends.

BTW I was

looking at her ass when we walked to her car, but that’s beside the point.



DCW

[BassMan]

I'm a couple

years younger than Gegogi and completely understand his point of view. The biggest advantage of age is that it opens

more opportunity. It's really strange but in the last few years I have had more hits from women in their late 20's

to early 30's than I ever did when I was that age. As a businessman I can't afford to be seen as a dirty old man

who hits on youngsters either. It isn't necesary to hit on them, they make their opinions very plain. Not all, of

course but a surprising number of them and they are usually some of the best lookers.
I'm a couple of

years older than both of you.

There seems to be a serious shift in attitude about sex that occurs when a female

hits her mid to late 20's.

It doesn't at all surprise me that Silver (at 19) finds being hit on by men 20

years her senior "gross." It also doesn't surprise me that females 25-35 find you and Gegogi (and me, for that

matter) "interesting."

I noticed the shift when I was 30, and rather suddenly the females I was with started

playing with their sexual urges, rather than fighting them. I had completely forgotten that dynamic, only to be

reminded of it in the past few years since my divorce.

My best friend for some years now has been a

20-something. If she had been her current age (25) instead of 20 when we met, we would have been lovers rather than

best friends - we've had more than one convo on that topic. Ah, well.

-Bass

[belgareth]

DCW,

That is sad but it

illistrates my point nicely. One of the things I like about meeting people places like this forum is that we can be

friends without them either thinking I am hitting on them or making judgments about their appearance or any other

trait beside who they are.

Bassman,
My middle daughter just turned 18. She once asked my SO who is 28 what she

saw in a man my age, she thought it was kind of gross too. Jessica, on the other hand, finds men her own age to be

almost intolerable because of their attitudes towards women. If I was a fat old buzzard who didn't care for hmself

it might be different though. She doesn't think much of that type either.

[bjf]

I was talking to a lady

online today (we spoke once or twice in the past). I told her I was heading to Starbucks and if she would join me,

she immediately became defensive and suspicious, so I assured her that I just wanted to chat and nothing

more.
She told me that it was a rarity, which to me was kinda sad.

Well to make a long story short we met

at Starbucks and chatted, she told me that she was getting an early start on preparing her Christmas meal. I told

her that I was going to brew some ginger beer but wasn’t planning on a formal Christmas dinner (unless the ex makes

one), at this point she invited me to her home for Christmas dinner and thanked her for the consideration

(undecided).

We parted eventually but I couldn’t help remembering how she carried with suspicious. It seems

that there are those who some strange reason can’t see men and women just being friends.

BTW I was looking at

her ass when we walked to her car, but that’s beside the point.



DCW


haha, funny

ending.

re: friends

Because some women realize how complicated it is to just be friends with guys

considering most guys just want to be friends as a way to become lovers. When they try friendships and reject the

guys eventual advances, it leads to an upset male, and ultimately an upset female.

Too much confusion. And

it is not as easy as everybody stating what we want from the beginning, because nobody knows that all the

time.

Friendships with the same sex are simpler. Nobodies feelings get hurt, nobody gets burned.

[bjf]

I'm a couple of years

older than both of you.

There seems to be a serious shift in attitude about sex that occurs when a female

hits her mid to late 20's.

It doesn't at all surprise me that Silver (at 19) finds being hit on by men 20

years her senior "gross." It also doesn't surprise me that females 25-35 find you and Gegogi (and me, for that

matter) "interesting."

I noticed the shift when I was 30, and rather suddenly the females I was with

started playing with their sexual urges, rather than fighting them. I had completely forgotten that dynamic, only to

be reminded of it in the past few years since my divorce.

My best friend for some years now has been a

20-something. If she had been her current age (25) instead of 20 when we met, we would have been lovers rather than

best friends - we've had more than one convo on that topic. Ah, well.

-Bass

The shift in

attitude has to do with a shift in biology more than anything else. As we all know, men's sexual peak comes at

what, 19? Women's at 30? Not to say just life experience doesn't play a role, but biology is what ultimately

controls the attitudes of both sexes.

And once women get hornier, they don't just get interested in the

older guys if you know what I mean.

[DCW]

DCW,

That is

sad but it illistrates my point nicely. One of the things I like about meeting people places like this forum is that

we can be friends without them either thinking I am hitting on them or making judgments about their appearance or

any other trait beside who they are.

True, most of my friends are women and yes some were past lovers

but we value the friendship and continue to talk and relate life's experience.
You'll be surprised that in a

city as big as Houston just how many lonely people they are, in my opinion people don't value relationships and

frienships like they use to.


DCW

[belgareth]

haha, funny

ending.

re: friends

Because some women realize how complicated it is to just be friends with guys

considering most guys just want to be friends as a way to become lovers. When they try friendships and reject the

guys eventual advances, it leads to an upset male, and ultimately an upset female.

Too much confusion. And it is

not as easy as everybody stating what we want from the beginning, because nobody knows that all the time.



Friendships with the same sex are simpler. Nobodies feelings get hurt, nobody gets burned.
It sounds

like the guy wasn't very honest about what he wanted in the first place. If he wasn't misleading the lady, he

certainly was misleading himself.

[belgareth]

True, most of my

friends are women and yes some were past lovers but we value the friendship and continue to talk and relate life's

experience.
You'll be surprised that in a city as big as Houston just how many lonely people they are, in my

opinion people don't value relationships and frienships like they use to.


DCW
Same here, many of

my friends are women. It's refreshing at times because men seem to want to compete with each other where a man and

woman can relate without that nonsense. I think you're right about how people don't value relationships as much

anymore. It so often comes down to "what can they do for me?" That's a terrible way to live.

[BassMan]

Bassman,
My

middle daughter just turned 18. She once asked my SO who is 28 what she saw in a man my age, she thought it was kind

of gross too. Jessica, on the other hand, finds men her own age to be almost intolerable because of their attitudes

towards women. If I was a fat old buzzard who didn't care for hmself it might be different though. She doesn't

think much of that type either.I no longer "work out", but I do yoga and walk constantly. I've gotton more

than one woman half my age exasperated trying to keep up with my energy level...

As I suspect Gegogi can testify

- being a performing musician covers a multitude of sins... It won't make _every_ young woman hot for you, but it

certainly improves the odds.

-Bass

[BassMan]

True, most of my

friends are women and yes some were past lovers but we value the friendship and continue to talk and relate life's

experience.
You'll be surprised that in a city as big as Houston just how many lonely people they are, in my

opinion people don't value relationships and frienships like they use to.


DCW
DCW and Bel -



Same here - I have many female friends. The relationships tend to be more intimate than those I have with males -

with the exception of one close male friend who has a very well developed female side.

A lot of males,

including some I've known and played music with for years, seem to be afraid of developing closeness with another

male, unless it's in a very structured way, such as sports (I played soccer in an earlier incarnation), or music.

I've always supposed it's cultural...

-Bass

[Silver]

Hmm, I don't know, I guess I

don't see it as a physical thing. The physical aspect is a PART of why I think dating a much older man would be

kind of weird, but it's not the be all end all. Like, I wouldn't consider physical attractiveness to be THE

reason I find a guy who could be my grandfather undateable. Physical attractiveness is always a factor, but if t

here is chemistry there then there's chemistry, no matter the age.

The way I look at it, it's about where you

are in life. I mean, how old is pierce brosnan? Hotter than most guys my age, that's for sure. But he's still

over 50, and there are still the problems that arise from such an age difference. Which is not to say I wouldn't

shag pierce brosnan, I mean every girl's got to make an exception for bond;), but this is just to illustrate that

it's not the physical attractiveness that's the main issue here. A guy at 50 is looking for vastly different

things, from a relationship, from other people, and from life in general. The gulf between a 25-30 woman, who is

probably already working out in the real world, worrying about a rent a utility bill and the groceries, and a man in

his 50s, is most definitely significantly smaller than the gulf between an 18-25 year old, most likely in school or

just recently out of it, looking for freedom, experimentation, and excitement, and the same man, or even a 40 year

old. I don't think the younger women are less mature, or just not sexually come into themselves yet, but rather

just looking for such different things.

Maybe I could see myself dating a 50 year old when I'm 30. Who knows,

I don't think so, but it's within the realm of possibility. But I just REALLY can't see myself dating even a 40

year old now, or within the next 5 years, if that makes any sense.

Cheers,
~Silver

p.s. Bassman and Gegogi,

being a musician ALWAYS helps;)

[Gegogi]

"Friendships with the same

sex are simpler. Nobodies feelings get hurt, nobody gets burned."

True, male to male friendships are

usually simpler. Most of my guy friends tend to confine themselves to one activity--e.g., smokin' buddies,

drinkin' buddies, jammin' buddies--and are uncomfortable if you stray to far afield or get too personal. On the

other hand, relationships with my female friends--the majority of my friends--tend to be more personal and

multifaceted. That isn't to say I haven't hurt or been hurt by male friends, you merely have less oportunity due

to the narrower relationship. And, man, male egos are the most fragile of all...


"As I suspect Gegogi

can testify - being a performing musician covers a multitude of sins... It won't make _every_ young woman hot for

you, but it certainly improves the odds."

Yeah, for some reason you look a lot better under

stagelights compared to daylight! However, many women I meet after performances tire of me quickly once they see the

music thing going on all day.

[belgareth]

Silver,

You're voicing

concerns I had when Jessica started letting me know she was interested in me. She's still a student, will get

hooded soon. I couldn't imagine what we would have in common outside the bedroom. It took a long time of my

treating her as a friend for me to see that she was serious and could be a good companion to me. The last thing I

wanted was to get into a relationship that was going to get either of us hurt.

She surprises me all the time

with her insights and maturity. We can go to the ballet or a play together, afterwards go get ice creams and walk

along eating them and giggling like children. Or take a bottle of wine for a moonlit walk along the seashore and

just enjoy one another. It's a strange thing. I guess it helps that she's about three times smarter than me, I

have to respect her.

[Gegogi]

"It's a strange thing. I guess it helps that she's about three times smarter than me,

I have to respect her."

I have to say, intelligent and well educated women are a massive turn on for

me. Such women have said the very thing that I find attractive scares many men. In fact, the mere mention of

graduate degrees sends most guys reeling. Plus the more accomlished a woman, the more competive she tends to be in a

relationship. The downside is you can't pull the wool over their eyes so easily. They'll nail your butt to the

door everytime.

Silver you're unusually smart and thoughtful for a 19 year old. Most guys your age are way

behind you. I wouldn't be surprised if you finish college in 4 years, unlike most students, and enter the real

world at the tender age of 22 or 23. So beware of scaring off potential BFs! My sister--a lawyer--used to play dumb

in order to get dates. She even lost to guys at tennis and downhill skiing on purpose. Otherwise, once they caught

wind she was smarter and faster, their egos were too limp to show their face again.

Incidentally, Belgareth,

Bassman and I are only old enough to be your father, not grandfather (unless we were gettin' busy in junior high!).

:nono:

[BassMan]

I have to say,

intelligent and well educated women are a massive turn on for me. Such women have said the very thing that I find

attractive scares many men. In fact, the mere mention of graduate degrees sends most guys reeling. Plus the more

accomlished a woman, the more competive she tends to be in a relationship. The downside is you can't pull the wool

over their eyes so easily. They'll nail your butt to the door everytime.

I've been married twice.

Both had graduate degrees. Actually, both were my age - well, the first was three years older.

You say they get

tired of you when they see the musical discipline... I almost always date creative types. My first lover became a

very successful commercial artist. I've dated actresses, sculpters, painters. Both wives were therapists - creative

souls in their own way. I'm finally dating a performing musician - the first, actually. I can't imagine a woman

who wasn't a slave to her own creative impulses tolerating me for long...

Bel -
One of the big attractions of

a younger woman for an older man is his appreciation of the finer things. It is so lacking in most younger men.

Theatre, ballet, opera. I date women who are already involved in the arts - but it would be great fun to share these

with someone for their first time.

-Bass

[Gegogi]

Actually my former wife is a

performig musician and music teacher. Female artists and musicians are really tough to meet, let alone someone that

shares a mutual attraction.

[Felstorm]

The fake wedding ring story

goes right along with this one;

http://www.conjecture.com/bitch.htm

The Bitch Theory.



Keep in mind that the women that were questioned about their fake engagement band were from New York City. There are

lots of women there and they just so happened to interview the snobs. I'm sure they didn't bother to talk to any

of the women that weren't into playing games or acting stuck-up.

And with the Bitch Theory, seems like the

snobbish "My pussy is made of gold and diamonds" mentality really turns around to bite them when they get older. It

goes from; "I'm so hot all men want to get me into bed." to "I'm 50 and I'm lonely and miserable and nobody will

sleep with me. Oh woe is me!"

Men's powers of attraction can stay well into middle-age.

[belgareth]

I've been

married twice. Both had graduate degrees. Actually, both were my age - well, the first was three years older.



Bel -
One of the big attractions of a younger woman for an older man is his appreciation of the finer things. It

is so lacking in most younger men. Theatre, ballet, opera. I date women who are already involved in the arts - but

it would be great fun to share these with someone for their first time.

-Bass
Married twice myself,

once was horrible the other great. Both were my age. You're probably right about that, Jess enjoys the plays and

Ballet. Although she is no stranger to the arts, her parents are patrons of the arts. She was surprised to learn

that I don't watch TV, much less sports.

Gegogi,

The few ladies I've dated who weren't pretty bright and

well educated bored me quickly. If a woman can't hold her own in a conversation or doesn't have other interests,

she's not very interesting for long. I won't play the "who's the boss" or any other competitve games in a

relationship. There's no point to them. Jess tried it a couple times and found that I just didn't respond, she

gave up. I don't ever bother to try to fool her or lie about things, if she doesn't like something about me, she

can learn to deal with it. It tends to make things easier in the long run.

Silver,

I would have loved to

have met a woman like you when I was in college! You've got a lot of good attributes but most important is that you

are smart and have your own opinions. Don't ever let that change.

[bjf]

Shouldn't this thread be moved?

[belgareth]

Shouldn't this

thread be moved?
Why? It qualifies under the science of attraction, doesn't it?

[bjf]

I'd say no, but you're the mod, and

I respect that it is your role to evaluate that.

[belgareth]

We're discussing relationships

between disparate age groups and what does or does not attract people of different ages. It seems to me that has a

lot to do with attraction but if you differ, please send me a PM and we can discuss it.

[tounge]

Silver,

I would have loved to have met a woman like you when I was in college! You've got a lot of good

attributes but most important is that you are smart and have your own opinions. Don't ever let that

change.



Why on earth couldn't you meet a women like Silver in College. They are all over

campus.

My goodness, I live right next to a small private college, and spend a bit of time at the bigger

State University.

In my experience many of the young women have the same traits of Silver, almost to the

point of fault. I chat with them in coffee shops, bars near campus and have dated of few of the more open minded

ones who wern't imtimdated by an older gentleman.

Most people I know, have their own opinions and are

reasonably smart. They have no intention of changing until their mode of thinking changes. Which correlates with the

terrific article posted by Felstrom.

[belgareth]

Why on earth

couldn't you meet a women like Silver in College. They are all over campus.

My goodness, I live right next to a

small private college, and spend a bit of time at the bigger State University.

In my experience many of the

young women have the same traits of Silver, almost to the point of fault. I chat with them in coffee shops, bars

near campus and have dated of few of the more open minded ones who wern't imtimdated by an older gentleman.



Most people I know, have their own opinions and are reasonably smart. They have no intention of changing until

their mode of thinking changes. Which correlates with the terrific article posted by Felstrom.
First, keep

in mind that I'm talking about the mid-seventies, things have changed a bit since then. Most of my first time

through college was at a small state college in the middle of nowhere. The science curriculum was limited and there

were few of the really top flight students. Also, there was almost no asian population there, the few I met were not

all that bright or outspoken.

[tounge]

Fair Point. I'm sure that there is

a difference between now and the seventies. Also the science field then was pretty much filled with males. And going

to a school in the middle of nowhere didn't help. But were you specificaly looking for an Asain women?

[belgareth]

Asian women have always

fascinated me, they can be incredibly lovely.

[Holmes]

The fake wedding

ring story goes right along with this one;



http://www.conjecture.com/bitch.htm

Wow, now there's bleak for ya.

:D

Interesting, though. Thanks for the article.

[Gegogi]

"Asian women have always

fascinated me, they can be incredibly lovely"

You should have moved to Oahu--Asian women are almost

all there is! Of course, inside they're the same as everyone else and the fascination fades. Being an Asian that

grew up in an all white area of the mainland I went nuts chasing women when I first washed ashore here.