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bjf
12-16-2004, 07:18 PM
How come it does not contain

etiocholanolone?

jvkohl
12-18-2004, 07:25 PM
So far, the only information on

etiocholanolone as a putative pheromone has been in conjunction with male sexual orientation. It might someday make

sense to put it in a product meant to attract homosexual males, but there's no indication yet that it would enhance

a woman's scent signature. Compared to copulins, I would not expect etiocholanolone to do much.



JVK

bjf
12-19-2004, 02:31 PM
Are the only A/E ratio comparisons

between hetero and homosexual males?

jvkohl
12-19-2004, 09:54 PM
The comparison included females;

the homosexual males had a ratio similar to that of females.

JVK

bjf
12-20-2004, 05:57 AM
So you don't think etiocholanolone

will basically do much because it is pretty much constant in women and men, and the androsterone is the only

significant variable?

jvkohl
12-20-2004, 08:37 PM
Etiocholanolone levels appear to be

higher in homosexual males compared to heterosexual males, so the A/E ratio may vary simply because of the increased

E, which makes it a significant variable. However, androsterone is the part of the ratio that is known to have

androgenic effects, associated with masculine characteristics. I think that increasing androsterone makes more sense

than altering the A/E ratio by including etiocholanolone when trying to acheive a more masculine scent signature.

Copulins alone have been shown to increase testosterone in men, so why mess with additional unknowns like the A/E

ratio factor in a formula for women?

JVK