natural experiment

[starboy]

hey guys. I'm

fairly new to this site, and I wanna say there's a lot of great informationg here. I'm 22, have never been overly

successful with women, and, like any of us, wouldn't mind increasing the frequency and quality. before I get into

any kind of pharamone spray however, I'd like to conduct an experiment. I want to see if I can increase my own

pharamone output in a noticable way. I've already (after reading through the forum) stopped using soap and switched

to axe instead of my stick deoderant. also I'm going to (try to) quit masturbating. It's been one day, one date,

and nothing so far. if anyone has any ideas to increase my natural pharamones more than what I'm doing now, I'd

love to hear them. also, maybe someone could give me some advice as far as what I'm looking for as signs of

success. thaks everyone.

[Elvis]

also I'm going to

(try to) quit masturbating.
Welcome starboy. Firstly, I realise you're keen and all to get going but

let's not attempt the impossible. :rofl:

I haven't been here very long but the soap thing is something that

has interested me also. I only use a shower gel once every 4-5 days or so, and I'm not seeing any bad reactions to

this. Good reactions attributed to this are difficult to spot (if they exist) but I don't believe there is any harm

in trying.

As fot AXE/LYNX whatever it's called. I find for the scant price of this product, the fragrances are

surprisingly good. As far as I know, there is also a anti-persp version as well as a standard deodorant one. I have

phoenix, not great that one but I'm going to try others. Which scent do you have?

As for increasing natural

pheromones, I guess a healthy body is a healthy mind is a healthy pheromone signature. Eat well, sleep well, avoid

too many stimulants (caffeine, alcohol, etc) and of course do excercise regularly to clear your pores of toxins.

Drink enough water. If you manage that and come across a mix of pheromone products that works for you, I'm sure

things will begin happening more in the bedroom department for you.

Good luck in thy quest o starboy!

[Surreal]

welcome....

a full work out

3-4 days a week and minature workouts the other days will help you out.

[Mungojerry]

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[canivaro]

there's an interesting article

in an old LS newsletter on how to increase natural pmone levels found here:

http://pherolibrary.com/pheronews/issues/02/Sep

tember-02.html (http://pherolibrary.com/pheronews/issues/02/September-02.html)


i like your idea starboy. now that im out of school for the semester it may be til

christmas til i take my next shower. will i be a natural pimp by then?:blink:

[DCW]

I read that it healthy for the

prostate as well.


DCW

[Friendly1]

I am really glad you

non-showering guys don't live in Houston. Just remember to wash your hands regularly, as that is one of the most

common methods for the transfer of viruses and bacteria. Washing hands doesn't kill your pheromone output.

[integra]

"What were the results? Who gets

hornier from watching sex scenes alone in a room., men or women? You women know the truth, while all the male

readers have been believing the big lie for all these years. Scientific results show that.........both men and women

respond equally!!!! "


Wow i learn something new everyday. I guess my gurl is different though lol. And i JUST

HOPE masturbating increases phero level rather then vice versa Like Mungo said.

[CptKipling]

I still think that stopping

materbation will increase T levels and thus pheromone output, at least in the short term. It makes evolutionary

sense, your body isn't getting any sex, so it tries to get some more. However, I do agree that after a period of

time (determined by your age and sex drive) your T levels will drop again, and that a lot of sex also increases your

phero output.

[Mungojerry]

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[starboy]

my basis for the quitting

masturbation came from somewhere(I forget where, I think a few different sources). from what I read, masturbation

lowers testosterone levels, which is somewhat interesting, because sex (with a woman) raises it. I really can't say

whether it's true or not, I'm not a dr, but I did do some experimenting over the summer. I weightlifted for a few

months, and during that time I would only masturbate 1-2 times a week. during that time, I'm certain my

testosterone levels were pretty high, tho that may also be attributed to the wieght lifting. I certainly have no

conclusive data, maybe I should study more.

this is the second day of my experiment now, and still nothing too

much out of the ordinary. I worked a 10 hour shift wearing a long sleeve shirt, which I wonder if it would even let

out natural pheramones. to give an idea on lifestyle, I eat fairly healthy, 4-5 times a day (I'm trying to gain

weight). I'm starting a weight lifting program, I'll probably lift 3 times a week. I don't use any drugs,

caffien, cigarettes. I drink a glass of red wine a day, but never get drunk. from time to time I practice martial

arts with my friends.

so tell me, do you think that using pheramone sprays will have a way better effect than

all the natural stuff? I mean it seems a little...creepy to me. I'm very against the usage of drugs and I'd hate

to think I was tricking a girl into bed, you know?

[starboy]

I hope I'm not offending anyone

is saying that.. oh yeah someone asked me what axe scent I use. Right now I'm using the newest one, touch. I'm

also fond of pheonix.

[Elvis]

I'm very against

the usage of drugs and I'd hate to think I was tricking a girl into bed, you know?Don't worry about

tricking girls into bed amigo. This is something that men do with or without pheromones...i.e seduction. Anyway it

takes two to tango so, she won't do it if she doesn't want to...with or without pheromones. There is no shame in

using them.

As for your regime, you sound fairly healthy already...you probably have a good natural pheromone

signature to start with. Also, I don't believe your brain will know the difference between a handshank and real

sex. If sex with a woman raises or lowers testosterone then I'm sure with a wank the results will be the same.



My personal belief is that it raises testosterone because your brain is saying..."come on, we need to keep

producing this stuff...he's always needing it 'cause he wanks so often" If you suddenly stopped I'd say you would

have a massive jump in testosterone levels since your brain thought it was all going to be used up, but turns out it

isn't and your brain is too slow to react.

Of course, I am not a scientist and base this on no factual evidence

whatsoever. In addition I am also a newbie...it would be interesting for the some of the "old" heads to pass comment

on this.

[bjf]

Cops raise t-levels.

cops are

present only during sex. not saying what masturbation does, but your body knows the difference.

[CptKipling]

If only on

the basis of what was said in the old thread...

Yes stopping masturbation will increase T-levels in the

very short term, but will lead to a drop of not long after.
Couldn't have said exactly the same

thing better myself :thumbsup:


bjf,

I agree, it's the cops that makes the difference. I think

masterbation helps things to keep turning over down there, but the presense of a woman seems to change the effects

biochemically.

[starboy]

I'm thinking that when I'm

done with my experiment, I might try some pheromone products. it's all pretty confusing. I even saw one in a local

store that said "unisex". does that even make sense?

[InternationalPlayboy]

I'm

thinking that when I'm done with my experiment, I might try some pheromone products. it's all pretty confusing. I

even saw one in a local store that said "unisex". does that even make sense?

SOE unscented, sold

here, is a unisex product.

[starboy]

alright I broke down and bought

a bottle of "pure instinct" from my local porn store. this was my first day using pheromones. at first I didn't

really notice any difference, short of a few stray looks. I did talk to a guy about guitar lessons(I run a business

as a guitar teacher) and he seemed very comfortable talking to him. Later on, I had a date with a female friend of

mine. we've never pushed up past the friends marker, tho I'd sort of like to. before I went over, I put a little

more on than I had previously.

I headed down to my car, and on the way a drunk guy who I didn't know seemed

somewhat excited to see me, said "hey man! merry christmas!" and tried to get me to give him five....heh. I went

over to my friends house. she still lives with her mom, who is amazingly attractive for being 54. while at her

house, my friend didn't act much differently, although I think her mom gave me a dihl. haha. I noticed her staring

at me, and when I looked back, she just kind of smiled and looked away (maybe I had something on my face?) my friend

and I went dancing, which we had never done before(mostly cause I can't dance). I noticed she was more touchy feely

than normal, tho I wonder if it was just her trying to get me to dance. in the end I didn't dance with her. it was

a little awkward, no one else there was dancing. still, I think it killed the mood for her. nothing else significant

happen.

a lot of the things I noticed, it's hard to say if it was the pheromone or just coincedence. it's like

psychics. I mean all of those things could have happened anyway. also it seems like not too many people on the forum

have much faith in this product. I did feel a little phoney, sorta creepy, but maybe I'm overreacting. has anyone

else ever had these kind of thoughts? one other question, sometimes I'd notice a girl looking at me from across the

room. could that be pheromone? it seems like they'd have to be close enough to smell it. how does that work?

[BIONIC MAN]

zinc-magnesium will help

boost natural t-levels as will copulins put under the nose. :thumbsup:

[DrSmellThis]

There is an optimum amount to

masturbate or have sex for T levels, depending on age and physical condition. It's not just the more the better, or

the less either.