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starboy
12-15-2004, 11:24 AM
hey guys. I'm
fairly new to this site, and I wanna say there's a lot of great informationg here. I'm 22, have never been overly
successful with women, and, like any of us, wouldn't mind increasing the frequency and quality. before I get into
any kind of pharamone spray however, I'd like to conduct an experiment. I want to see if I can increase my own
pharamone output in a noticable way. I've already (after reading through the forum) stopped using soap and switched
to axe instead of my stick deoderant. also I'm going to (try to) quit masturbating. It's been one day, one date,
and nothing so far. if anyone has any ideas to increase my natural pharamones more than what I'm doing now, I'd
love to hear them. also, maybe someone could give me some advice as far as what I'm looking for as signs of
success. thaks everyone.
Elvis
12-15-2004, 11:39 AM
also I'm going to
(try to) quit masturbating.
Welcome starboy. Firstly, I realise you're keen and all to get going but
let's not attempt the impossible. :rofl:
I haven't been here very long but the soap thing is something that
has interested me also. I only use a shower gel once every 4-5 days or so, and I'm not seeing any bad reactions to
this. Good reactions attributed to this are difficult to spot (if they exist) but I don't believe there is any harm
in trying.
As fot AXE/LYNX whatever it's called. I find for the scant price of this product, the fragrances are
surprisingly good. As far as I know, there is also a anti-persp version as well as a standard deodorant one. I have
phoenix, not great that one but I'm going to try others. Which scent do you have?
As for increasing natural
pheromones, I guess a healthy body is a healthy mind is a healthy pheromone signature. Eat well, sleep well, avoid
too many stimulants (caffeine, alcohol, etc) and of course do excercise regularly to clear your pores of toxins.
Drink enough water. If you manage that and come across a mix of pheromone products that works for you, I'm sure
things will begin happening more in the bedroom department for you.
Good luck in thy quest o starboy!
Surreal
12-15-2004, 11:57 AM
welcome....
a full work out
3-4 days a week and minature workouts the other days will help you out.
Mungojerry
12-15-2004, 01:14 PM
ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
canivaro
12-15-2004, 01:27 PM
there's an interesting article
in an old LS newsletter on how to increase natural pmone levels found here:
http://pherolibrary.com/pheronews/issues/02/Sep
tember-02.html (http://pherolibrary.com/pheronews/issues/02/September-02.html)
i like your idea starboy. now that im out of school for the semester it may be til
christmas til i take my next shower. will i be a natural pimp by then?:blink:
I read that it healthy for the
prostate as well.
DCW
Friendly1
12-15-2004, 02:04 PM
I am really glad you
non-showering guys don't live in Houston. Just remember to wash your hands regularly, as that is one of the most
common methods for the transfer of viruses and bacteria. Washing hands doesn't kill your pheromone output.
integra
12-15-2004, 02:17 PM
"What were the results? Who gets
hornier from watching sex scenes alone in a room., men or women? You women know the truth, while all the male
readers have been believing the big lie for all these years. Scientific results show that.........both men and women
respond equally!!!! "
Wow i learn something new everyday. I guess my gurl is different though lol. And i JUST
HOPE masturbating increases phero level rather then vice versa Like Mungo said.
CptKipling
12-15-2004, 02:42 PM
I still think that stopping
materbation will increase T levels and thus pheromone output, at least in the short term. It makes evolutionary
sense, your body isn't getting any sex, so it tries to get some more. However, I do agree that after a period of
time (determined by your age and sex drive) your T levels will drop again, and that a lot of sex also increases your
phero output.
Mungojerry
12-15-2004, 03:15 PM
fddddddddddddddddddddddddd
starboy
12-15-2004, 11:01 PM
my basis for the quitting
masturbation came from somewhere(I forget where, I think a few different sources). from what I read, masturbation
lowers testosterone levels, which is somewhat interesting, because sex (with a woman) raises it. I really can't say
whether it's true or not, I'm not a dr, but I did do some experimenting over the summer. I weightlifted for a few
months, and during that time I would only masturbate 1-2 times a week. during that time, I'm certain my
testosterone levels were pretty high, tho that may also be attributed to the wieght lifting. I certainly have no
conclusive data, maybe I should study more.
this is the second day of my experiment now, and still nothing too
much out of the ordinary. I worked a 10 hour shift wearing a long sleeve shirt, which I wonder if it would even let
out natural pheramones. to give an idea on lifestyle, I eat fairly healthy, 4-5 times a day (I'm trying to gain
weight). I'm starting a weight lifting program, I'll probably lift 3 times a week. I don't use any drugs,
caffien, cigarettes. I drink a glass of red wine a day, but never get drunk. from time to time I practice martial
arts with my friends.
so tell me, do you think that using pheramone sprays will have a way better effect than
all the natural stuff? I mean it seems a little...creepy to me. I'm very against the usage of drugs and I'd hate
to think I was tricking a girl into bed, you know?
starboy
12-15-2004, 11:29 PM
I hope I'm not offending anyone
is saying that.. oh yeah someone asked me what axe scent I use. Right now I'm using the newest one, touch. I'm
also fond of pheonix.
Elvis
12-16-2004, 05:04 AM
I'm very against
the usage of drugs and I'd hate to think I was tricking a girl into bed, you know?Don't worry about
tricking girls into bed amigo. This is something that men do with or without pheromones...i.e seduction. Anyway it
takes two to tango so, she won't do it if she doesn't want to...with or without pheromones. There is no shame in
using them.
As for your regime, you sound fairly healthy already...you probably have a good natural pheromone
signature to start with. Also, I don't believe your brain will know the difference between a handshank and real
sex. If sex with a woman raises or lowers testosterone then I'm sure with a wank the results will be the same.
My personal belief is that it raises testosterone because your brain is saying..."come on, we need to keep
producing this stuff...he's always needing it 'cause he wanks so often" If you suddenly stopped I'd say you would
have a massive jump in testosterone levels since your brain thought it was all going to be used up, but turns out it
isn't and your brain is too slow to react.
Of course, I am not a scientist and base this on no factual evidence
whatsoever. In addition I am also a newbie...it would be interesting for the some of the "old" heads to pass comment
on this.
Cops raise t-levels.
cops are
present only during sex. not saying what masturbation does, but your body knows the difference.
CptKipling
12-16-2004, 09:20 AM
If only on
the basis of what was said in the old thread...
Yes stopping masturbation will increase T-levels in the
very short term, but will lead to a drop of not long after.
Couldn't have said exactly the same
thing better myself :thumbsup:
bjf,
I agree, it's the cops that makes the difference. I think
masterbation helps things to keep turning over down there, but the presense of a woman seems to change the effects
biochemically.
starboy
12-16-2004, 11:25 AM
I'm thinking that when I'm
done with my experiment, I might try some pheromone products. it's all pretty confusing. I even saw one in a local
store that said "unisex". does that even make sense?
InternationalPlayboy
12-16-2004, 11:55 AM
I'm
thinking that when I'm done with my experiment, I might try some pheromone products. it's all pretty confusing. I
even saw one in a local store that said "unisex". does that even make sense?
SOE unscented, sold
here, is a unisex product.
starboy
12-17-2004, 12:46 AM
alright I broke down and bought
a bottle of "pure instinct" from my local porn store. this was my first day using pheromones. at first I didn't
really notice any difference, short of a few stray looks. I did talk to a guy about guitar lessons(I run a business
as a guitar teacher) and he seemed very comfortable talking to him. Later on, I had a date with a female friend of
mine. we've never pushed up past the friends marker, tho I'd sort of like to. before I went over, I put a little
more on than I had previously.
I headed down to my car, and on the way a drunk guy who I didn't know seemed
somewhat excited to see me, said "hey man! merry christmas!" and tried to get me to give him five....heh. I went
over to my friends house. she still lives with her mom, who is amazingly attractive for being 54. while at her
house, my friend didn't act much differently, although I think her mom gave me a dihl. haha. I noticed her staring
at me, and when I looked back, she just kind of smiled and looked away (maybe I had something on my face?) my friend
and I went dancing, which we had never done before(mostly cause I can't dance). I noticed she was more touchy feely
than normal, tho I wonder if it was just her trying to get me to dance. in the end I didn't dance with her. it was
a little awkward, no one else there was dancing. still, I think it killed the mood for her. nothing else significant
happen.
a lot of the things I noticed, it's hard to say if it was the pheromone or just coincedence. it's like
psychics. I mean all of those things could have happened anyway. also it seems like not too many people on the forum
have much faith in this product. I did feel a little phoney, sorta creepy, but maybe I'm overreacting. has anyone
else ever had these kind of thoughts? one other question, sometimes I'd notice a girl looking at me from across the
room. could that be pheromone? it seems like they'd have to be close enough to smell it. how does that work?
BIONIC MAN
12-18-2004, 11:50 PM
zinc-magnesium will help
boost natural t-levels as will copulins put under the nose. :thumbsup:
DrSmellThis
12-19-2004, 03:19 AM
There is an optimum amount to
masturbate or have sex for T levels, depending on age and physical condition. It's not just the more the better, or
the less either.
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