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Confused
12-07-2004, 09:14 PM
Ok so, when I

started this I was kind of skeptical. Im 19 average asian guy, I started by buying a thing of chikara and

perception. The Chikara was terrible I noticed when i put it on people would avoid me. Like I was in a huge line at

a store and there was about a 2 or 3 foot gap in between the person in back and front of me. Just weird stuff like

that so now im just like ok no more of that. Perception though is freakin awesome, I dont know it just seems

everyone is a alot more personable with me. No real hits with it though, nothing i wouldnt count towards me just

being me. Like Im not expecting ladies to just jump on me and be like do me, i just want to get the foot in the

door. Anyway now im not touchin the chikara anymore and ive noticed that my perception is leaking I dont know how

much but everytime its on its side and I go to use some there is always like a good amount around the metal part and

inside the cap. I just use my finger as best I can to get it out and put it on. I dont know if its my fault or the

bottle, but anyway Ive been thinking about trying something new. Either Alter ego or Primal instinct, considering

that chikara stunk for me and I think perceptions doing good what would be your opinion for me to try next. Try

something new or just stick with perception?

j5fakt0r
12-07-2004, 09:27 PM
When you tried chikara how many

sprays did you use? sometimes it can smell like catpiss...

I suggest you try out the free samples when

they're available and personally I'd try the AE which is next on my list of stuff to get.

Confused
12-07-2004, 09:28 PM
I experimented with 1 - 4

sprays and all sucked at varying degrees of suckiness

bjf
12-07-2004, 09:30 PM
Where are you located?

Confused
12-07-2004, 09:31 PM
Im in jersey why?

bjf
12-07-2004, 09:50 PM
just wondering. you said you were

asian, just wasn't sure if you were in asia.

What you described with chickara is very unusual. the closest

thing to it is people asking "is everything ok?" to people who wear it. i don't know, maybe it makes some people

seemed stressed or sick. we really don't know the nature of what the product is supposed to do exactly or what the

unknown mones do, so who knows what's going on?

Did people seem intimidated at all by you with it on?

TRock
12-07-2004, 09:54 PM
your chikara OD sounds like a

-none OD.

Confused
12-07-2004, 10:17 PM
I dont know if it was

intimidation but people were avoiding the eyecontact and like giving me the one arm distance. I asked my friend at

work how I smelled wearing it and his exact words were, "like my grandmas house". I dont know man, all i know is

that Im just done with chikara and im sending it back.

bjf
12-07-2004, 10:24 PM
haha. grandma's houses, hmm, moldy,

old, sickly?

Yea, it seems like it might not be intimidate, ie none, but rather something else. All

interesting. I wonder what the hell is the nature of the pheromones in there.

canivaro
12-08-2004, 12:41 AM
i remember the first time i

wore my chikara(1/2 gel pack, i think) and i was sitting in the library, i would notice people would come sit nearby

but it wasn't very long before they left.

damn, does anybody know how many Chikara sprays=1/2 gel pack of

chikara?

Felstorm
12-08-2004, 02:57 AM
It might be your own body

chemistry.

Try using it again. But take some notes.

Do one thing consistently for a week. This is

going to give you the most accurate idea of how it is working for you.

Try just two sprays. One on your

chest, one on your neck. Do that for a week. If you change up, use one product one day, and then another product

another day, you can't be sure of just what exactly is doing what for you. One idea I had is that people that are

used to your smell, might suddenly get "shocked" if you came in one day smelling like a buck in rut. The equivalent

of getting smacked in the head with a 2x4, but on the olfactory level.

You could use Chikara one day, use NPA

the next, and AE the next. And you could end up inadvertantly ODing because 'none builds up in the skin. Or you

could be getting killer hits because you did that, thinking it was just one product, you start using that alone and

then your results teeter off because it was the combination of all three over the course of three days that gave you

your magic ratio.

It's all about experimentation. Your own body puts out all these pheromones, so you may

have to adjust to compensate for your own body chemistry.

Start small and work your way up.

Surreal
12-08-2004, 03:06 AM
SoE is a possibility.....no

-none.

BTW: YGPM

-S

Confused
12-08-2004, 06:58 AM
Ehhhh felstorm, I appreciate

the advice but i think im just going to tank the chikara. I dont even like the scent of it. Damn I was going to get

alter ego but last night they had it for 10 dollars off and now full price. any more suggestions?

bjf
12-08-2004, 07:08 AM
AE is perception, but with a

different ratio of the pheromones and no buildup-prevention or time-release matrix.

I've never tried

perception (been waiting on the platinum release), but I'd be interested in hearing what people have to say about

the differences (in the field) between the two products.

Surreal
12-08-2004, 07:21 AM
AE is perception, but

with a different ratio of the pheromones and no buildup-prevention or time-release matrix.

I've never tried

perception (been waiting on the platinum release), but I'd be interested in hearing what people have to say about

the differences (in the field) between the two products.
Thre results would be nice to see. I but the

final factor would be the scent.

luckyhorse
12-08-2004, 07:26 AM
i wouldnt worry so much about

the scent just apply your favorite cologne and then apply the mones

DCW
12-08-2004, 08:32 AM
Make sure you shower first, start out

clean.

DCW

Surreal
12-08-2004, 10:36 AM
Make sure you shower

first, start out clean.

DCW
So true..... When I rub AE on my neck I get it on my sweater.... Did not

find that out untill it was too late. OD! yikes.

tiberius
12-08-2004, 04:02 PM
So true.....

When I rub AE on my neck I get it on my sweater.... Did not find that out untill it was too late. OD! yikes.


lol, I think we've all been there at some point in time....

*shudders* :run:

Confused
12-08-2004, 10:03 PM
so ive broken down and got the

primal instinct unscented with the free samples of like alter instinct and some other stuff. I plan on keeping like

a log of how i use it and also the perceptoin how i have left along with the samples im going to get. thanks for all

the advice and surreal you got a pm