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Genesis
11-29-2004, 11:35 AM
Hello, love-scent

forum. I want to buy androstadienone, but in the half strength... For the recipes I see on the forum do I just

double the A1 because it is half strength?

BassMan
11-29-2004, 11:59 AM
Hello, love-scent

forum. I want to buy androstadienone, but in the half strength... For the recipes I see on the forum do I just

double the A1 because it is half strength?Yes. Note that the overall strength of the mix will be slightly

less because of the increased volume.

-Bass

Genesis
11-29-2004, 12:03 PM
thanks bassman

tiberius
11-29-2004, 12:09 PM
If you want to know exactly how

much A1 you will have in your mix or how much you need to use to get to the desired concentration use the formula



(Initial Volume of A1 you plan to add) * (Initial Concentration of A1) = (Final Volume of Total Solution

including A1 + anything else you add) * (Final Concentration of A1)

hence to see what your concentration of A1

would be in a given amount with a certain amount of dilutent you would have: Vo * CONo = Vf * X and solve for X

where X would be your final concentration of A1 in the formula

Note: Make sure you use the same units for

volume on both sides of the equation and use the same units for concentration on both sides other wise itll be

geeked up.

Example: you have 1.0mL of A1 with a concentration of 0.02mg/ml A1 and you want to add say 3.0mL of

some other chemical to this 1.0mL of A1 solution. This would bring your final solution volume to a total of 4.0mL,

but now what is your concentration of A1?

1.0 * 0.02 = 4.0 * X
0.02 = 4.0 * X
0.02 / 4.0 = X
0.005 = X



Final concentration of A1 in your new 4.0mL solution is 0.005mg/mL

JasonLJS
11-29-2004, 12:09 PM
Man, I wish A-1 came a little

cheaper. I think the price is the reason not many people here experiment with the product. Everything I have read

makes it sound like a wonderful product. Bruce, maybe you can make this item part of the next TGIF?

*EDIT* I

didn't realize there was a half strength version:frustrate , sorry.

Indigo
11-29-2004, 12:21 PM
Man, I wish A-1

came a little cheaper. I think the price is the reason not many people here experiment with the product. Everything

I have read makes it sound like a wonderful product. Bruce, maybe you can make this item part of the next

TGIF?
I don't quite understand the point. If you buy the weak version you get 5 mg A1 for 50$. So the

price/pheromone ratio is better than that of most none only products ( none is the most expensive pheromone compared

to nol and rone). So it is even a better offer than the CS none.
You have to buy 10ml for 99$ to get it. RM and PI

are even more expensive!

tiberius
11-29-2004, 12:28 PM
Well this is just like

anything, sometimes the cheapest thing isnt necessairly the best, nor is the most expensive you have to look at the

price per unit. In this case, the price per gram or rather mg of mone.

Indigo
11-29-2004, 12:47 PM
As I said the price per mg A1 is

not too high compared to all other mones.
And considering the amounts of A1 used in most mixes described in the

forum
it is no higher investment just for testing like wanting to test Chikara or WAGG, it
is even cheaper. If I

wantto gibe Wagg or Chikara a shot I have to invest 70$, opposed
to 50$ for A1. Despite that many people bought

Chikara and WAGG.

MOBLEYC57
11-29-2004, 12:59 PM
Hello, love-scent

forum. I want to buy androstadienone, but in the half strength... For the recipes I see on the forum do I just

double the A1 because it is half strength?
Does this mean that FULL = full strength, and HALF = half

strength, or is FULL = a full bottle of A1, and HALF = diluted A1?

I was thinking it meant quantity. :blink:

Indigo
11-29-2004, 01:10 PM
Full means 10mg A1 in 10ml

liquid. Half strenght means 5mg A1 in 10ml liquid.
So weak A1 is the 1:1 dilluted version of the Full A1.
I hope I

got that right, Bruce !

DrSmellThis
11-29-2004, 01:13 PM
The half-strength version is

the solution for those who want it for a reasonable price. Believe me, you'll go though it quickly enough, and the

strength is appropriate. I usually wear two drops of the weaker stuff.

To me, A1 is not a "special interest"

product. It's a must-have, for your overall phero-profile.

JasonLJS
11-29-2004, 03:34 PM
The

half-strength version is the solution for those who want it for a reasonable price. Believe me, you'll go though it

quickly enough, and the strength is appropriate. I usually wear two drops of the weaker stuff.

To me, A1 is not

a "special interest" product. It's a must-have, for your overall phero-profile.
What do you usually use

besides A-1? Any special combos?

JasonLJS
11-29-2004, 03:42 PM
Full means 10mg

A1 in 10ml liquid. Half strenght means 5mg A1 in 10ml liquid.
So weak A1 is the 1:1 dilluted version of the Full

A1.
I hope I got that right, Bruce !
So does this mean that 5ml of pure (full strength) A-1 = 10ml of

half strength A-1? Because basically I am looking for 5ml of full strength A-1, that's what I was refering to.

Would that be the same thing as buying the 10ml of the half strength A-1?

DrSmellThis
11-29-2004, 03:44 PM
As far as pheromone products,

I currrently use Pheros, Chikara, beta -nol, WAGG, A1, Edge Heat, PF, and A314; along with raw perfuming

analog pheromones and animal products.

Genesis
11-29-2004, 07:47 PM
whew now I'm just confused

Indigo
11-30-2004, 12:57 AM
So does this mean

that 5ml of pure (full strength) A-1 = 10ml of half strength A-1? Because basically I am looking for 5ml of full

strength A-1, that's what I was refering to. Would that be the same thing as buying the 10ml of the half strength

A-1?
Actually you can only buy 10ml of A1. Either the full version containing 10mg or the dilluted version

with 5mg. The dilluted version contains more alcohol. Even for mixing I don't see any big disadvantage if the the

5mg A1 are solved in 10 instead of 5 ml of alcohol!

Genesis
11-30-2004, 01:23 AM
So this is going to be in the

TGIF?

Indigo
11-30-2004, 01:37 AM
The probability og A1 in TGIF is

low as far as I understood Bruce. But not impossible.

tiberius
11-30-2004, 03:35 AM
I am curious. What exactly does

A1 do, are its effects similar to none, nol, or rone?

Indigo
11-30-2004, 03:42 AM
I am curious.

What exactly does A1 do, are its effects similar to none, nol, or rone?
Read this following threads. They

contain the most important info on A1 ( Androstadienone):



http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.ph

p?t=12177&highlight=bits (http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12177&highlight=bits)



http://pherolibrary.com/forum/sh

owthread.php?t=10551&highlight=androstadienone (http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10551&highlight=androstadienone)

Hope that helps!

DrSmellThis
11-30-2004, 05:07 AM
There have been many great

threads on A1 over the years, but those are interesting ones.

CptKipling
11-30-2004, 12:58 PM
Doc,

A314? What are your

thoughts on it?