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Genesis
11-29-2004, 11:35 AM
Hello, love-scent
forum. I want to buy androstadienone, but in the half strength... For the recipes I see on the forum do I just
double the A1 because it is half strength?
BassMan
11-29-2004, 11:59 AM
Hello, love-scent
forum. I want to buy androstadienone, but in the half strength... For the recipes I see on the forum do I just
double the A1 because it is half strength?Yes. Note that the overall strength of the mix will be slightly
less because of the increased volume.
-Bass
Genesis
11-29-2004, 12:03 PM
thanks bassman
tiberius
11-29-2004, 12:09 PM
If you want to know exactly how
much A1 you will have in your mix or how much you need to use to get to the desired concentration use the formula
(Initial Volume of A1 you plan to add) * (Initial Concentration of A1) = (Final Volume of Total Solution
including A1 + anything else you add) * (Final Concentration of A1)
hence to see what your concentration of A1
would be in a given amount with a certain amount of dilutent you would have: Vo * CONo = Vf * X and solve for X
where X would be your final concentration of A1 in the formula
Note: Make sure you use the same units for
volume on both sides of the equation and use the same units for concentration on both sides other wise itll be
geeked up.
Example: you have 1.0mL of A1 with a concentration of 0.02mg/ml A1 and you want to add say 3.0mL of
some other chemical to this 1.0mL of A1 solution. This would bring your final solution volume to a total of 4.0mL,
but now what is your concentration of A1?
1.0 * 0.02 = 4.0 * X
0.02 = 4.0 * X
0.02 / 4.0 = X
0.005 = X
Final concentration of A1 in your new 4.0mL solution is 0.005mg/mL
JasonLJS
11-29-2004, 12:09 PM
Man, I wish A-1 came a little
cheaper. I think the price is the reason not many people here experiment with the product. Everything I have read
makes it sound like a wonderful product. Bruce, maybe you can make this item part of the next TGIF?
*EDIT* I
didn't realize there was a half strength version:frustrate , sorry.
Indigo
11-29-2004, 12:21 PM
Man, I wish A-1
came a little cheaper. I think the price is the reason not many people here experiment with the product. Everything
I have read makes it sound like a wonderful product. Bruce, maybe you can make this item part of the next
TGIF?
I don't quite understand the point. If you buy the weak version you get 5 mg A1 for 50$. So the
price/pheromone ratio is better than that of most none only products ( none is the most expensive pheromone compared
to nol and rone). So it is even a better offer than the CS none.
You have to buy 10ml for 99$ to get it. RM and PI
are even more expensive!
tiberius
11-29-2004, 12:28 PM
Well this is just like
anything, sometimes the cheapest thing isnt necessairly the best, nor is the most expensive you have to look at the
price per unit. In this case, the price per gram or rather mg of mone.
Indigo
11-29-2004, 12:47 PM
As I said the price per mg A1 is
not too high compared to all other mones.
And considering the amounts of A1 used in most mixes described in the
forum
it is no higher investment just for testing like wanting to test Chikara or WAGG, it
is even cheaper. If I
wantto gibe Wagg or Chikara a shot I have to invest 70$, opposed
to 50$ for A1. Despite that many people bought
Chikara and WAGG.
MOBLEYC57
11-29-2004, 12:59 PM
Hello, love-scent
forum. I want to buy androstadienone, but in the half strength... For the recipes I see on the forum do I just
double the A1 because it is half strength?
Does this mean that FULL = full strength, and HALF = half
strength, or is FULL = a full bottle of A1, and HALF = diluted A1?
I was thinking it meant quantity. :blink:
Indigo
11-29-2004, 01:10 PM
Full means 10mg A1 in 10ml
liquid. Half strenght means 5mg A1 in 10ml liquid.
So weak A1 is the 1:1 dilluted version of the Full A1.
I hope I
got that right, Bruce !
DrSmellThis
11-29-2004, 01:13 PM
The half-strength version is
the solution for those who want it for a reasonable price. Believe me, you'll go though it quickly enough, and the
strength is appropriate. I usually wear two drops of the weaker stuff.
To me, A1 is not a "special interest"
product. It's a must-have, for your overall phero-profile.
JasonLJS
11-29-2004, 03:34 PM
The
half-strength version is the solution for those who want it for a reasonable price. Believe me, you'll go though it
quickly enough, and the strength is appropriate. I usually wear two drops of the weaker stuff.
To me, A1 is not
a "special interest" product. It's a must-have, for your overall phero-profile.
What do you usually use
besides A-1? Any special combos?
JasonLJS
11-29-2004, 03:42 PM
Full means 10mg
A1 in 10ml liquid. Half strenght means 5mg A1 in 10ml liquid.
So weak A1 is the 1:1 dilluted version of the Full
A1.
I hope I got that right, Bruce !
So does this mean that 5ml of pure (full strength) A-1 = 10ml of
half strength A-1? Because basically I am looking for 5ml of full strength A-1, that's what I was refering to.
Would that be the same thing as buying the 10ml of the half strength A-1?
DrSmellThis
11-29-2004, 03:44 PM
As far as pheromone products,
I currrently use Pheros, Chikara, beta -nol, WAGG, A1, Edge Heat, PF, and A314; along with raw perfuming
analog pheromones and animal products.
Genesis
11-29-2004, 07:47 PM
whew now I'm just confused
Indigo
11-30-2004, 12:57 AM
So does this mean
that 5ml of pure (full strength) A-1 = 10ml of half strength A-1? Because basically I am looking for 5ml of full
strength A-1, that's what I was refering to. Would that be the same thing as buying the 10ml of the half strength
A-1?
Actually you can only buy 10ml of A1. Either the full version containing 10mg or the dilluted version
with 5mg. The dilluted version contains more alcohol. Even for mixing I don't see any big disadvantage if the the
5mg A1 are solved in 10 instead of 5 ml of alcohol!
Genesis
11-30-2004, 01:23 AM
So this is going to be in the
TGIF?
Indigo
11-30-2004, 01:37 AM
The probability og A1 in TGIF is
low as far as I understood Bruce. But not impossible.
tiberius
11-30-2004, 03:35 AM
I am curious. What exactly does
A1 do, are its effects similar to none, nol, or rone?
Indigo
11-30-2004, 03:42 AM
I am curious.
What exactly does A1 do, are its effects similar to none, nol, or rone?
Read this following threads. They
contain the most important info on A1 ( Androstadienone):
http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.ph
p?t=12177&highlight=bits (http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12177&highlight=bits)
http://pherolibrary.com/forum/sh
owthread.php?t=10551&highlight=androstadienone (http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10551&highlight=androstadienone)
Hope that helps!
DrSmellThis
11-30-2004, 05:07 AM
There have been many great
threads on A1 over the years, but those are interesting ones.
CptKipling
11-30-2004, 12:58 PM
Doc,
A314? What are your
thoughts on it?
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